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2021/07/15
17:13 UTC

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AFC Champions League East group stage preview

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2021/06/21
06:37 UTC

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Theoretical coefficient points from ACL 2020 East Region

With the AFC Cup being cancelled, there are no AFC country coefficients being calculated for 2020. I wanted to see the points that would have been earned from ACL 2020 East.

Country2016201720182019202016-19 total17-20 total
🇨🇳 China14.7524.56716.217.3512.8572.86770.967
🇯🇵 Japan10.521.8513.8521.816.36873.8
🇰🇷 South Korea20.759.9518.3513.617.662.6559.5
🇹🇭 Thailand115.0516.25.055.937.342.2
🇦🇺 Australia145.97.32.66.23329.822.033

AFC coefficients are calculated as a total over 4 years. The "2017-2020" total would be the "new" rankings. The change from the "old" ranking (2016-2019) can be as much down to 2016 dropping out of the total.

For 2020 I had to just ignore 🇲🇾 Malaysia due to JDT dropping out. JDT's withdrawal and having single-leg knockouts means there were less points on offer in total (you usually get points for a win/draw in each leg). I guess things were a little unfair in the groups, with some teams playing an away leg but never getting home advantage on a return fixture.

I found it weird that 🇯🇵 Kashima losing in the play-offs and so not making the group stage incurred essentially no penalty on Japan's coefficient - the year's points are an average of the teams that make the groups, so Japan's accumulated points were divided by 3, not by 4.

This also explains why 🇹🇭 Thailand and 🇦🇺 Australia have similar points for 2020 despite Australia having 3 teams in the groups (and 1 in the RO16) to Thailand's 1 team - average points in the 2020 group stage counts most for these nations. Only by reaching the knockouts en masse and/or with deep runs can you really make bank though, as you get bonus points for reaching each subsequent round.

Just out of curiousity, I calculated the points for each country from ACL 2020 using UEFA's method (which I'm sure has its own flaws) for comparison. UEFA's method gives a big bonus for being in the groups and also reaching the RO16, so we see 🇦🇺 Australia well clear of 🇹🇭 Thailand for 2020.

Country2020 AFC2020 UEFA
🇨🇳 China12.8514.875
🇯🇵 Japan16.314.75
🇰🇷 South Korea17.618.125
🇹🇭 Thailand5.93.5
🇦🇺 Australia6.23310.333

Before you celebrate or sink into misery about your favourite league's relative standing, remember that nearly every team had something to overcome to various degrees - injuries, COVID-induced absence, a surprising number of teenagers. And to end on a cynical note, it may be a coincidence that the better-funded teams tend to do better… but it's probably not.

🇨🇳China is China (although a salary cap is on the horizon), and 🇯🇵 Vissel Kobe have a player that according to some sources is the 7th-highest-paid player in the world. To put into perspective how bonkers that one salary is, it's a shade more than the combined wages (151 players) of the 4 highest-paying 🇰🇷 K League clubs for the 2019 season.

China is also still running their naturalisation program which skirts the 3+1 rule...

No doubt there are also some who look at the resources of the 🇹🇭 Thai League with envy - there's always a bigger fish. Thankfully there's always going to be dimishing returns on financial investment. Also, this is football, so there's always a chance for an upset.

Does which country have more points matter? No, not really. But a little bit yes. Here's the allocation for the 2021 (and 2022?) ACL, for spots directly into the group stage and play-off spots. In 2021 the ACL will expand from 4 to 5 groups of 4 teams in both East and West.

Country16-19 ptsGroup stagePlay-off
🇨🇳 China72.86731
🇯🇵 Japan6831
🇰🇷 South Korea62.6522
🇹🇭 Thailand37.322
🇦🇺 Australia29.812
🇵🇭 Philippines23.41211
🇰🇵 North Korea21.93300
🇻🇳 Vietnam20.81910
🇲🇾 Malaysia19.64510
🇸🇬 Singapore19.38810
🇭🇰 Hong Kong14.53310
🇲🇲 Myanmar9.29501
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2021/01/21
04:07 UTC

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Timor-Leste Copa FFTL Final Highlights: Lalenok United vs. SLB Laulara

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2020/10/29
00:59 UTC

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The Oldest Man in Football: 54 year-old Khandsuren Oyunbileg playing in the Mongolian Premier League

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2020/09/18
17:05 UTC

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Amazing Rabona Skill⚽

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2020/05/21
08:43 UTC

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K League 1 History: Most Championships Won Since 1983. Have you watched already?

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2020/05/09
09:41 UTC

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THE DEBATE - Let's talk about the J.LEAGUE - Part 2「外国人Jリーグ座談会 後編」

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2019/12/29
11:00 UTC

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Liverpool Fans Song for New Signing Takumi Minamino Is Very Good Indeed

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2019/12/29
00:33 UTC

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2019/12/28
16:24 UTC

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THE DEBATE - Let's talk about the J.LEAGUE - Part 1「外国人Jリーグ座談会 前編」

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2019/12/28
00:53 UTC

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FC Lalenok United celebrate winning the East Timor 1st division.

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2019/10/04
07:04 UTC

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