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WGTOW is a community of women supporting other women who wish to live independently from men and relationships with them.

Our users may be asexual, aromantic, or just generally happy single women. Please read the rules before you post or comment.

Welcome to WGTOW!

WGTOW is a community of women living independently from men and relationships with them. Please read the FAQ before posting.


Content Guidelines

  • The content you submit doesn't always have to be about going your own way! Here's some ideas:

  • Details about single living, including but not limited to:

  • Tiny houses! Your ideas to build one, other's projects, etc.

  • Experiences/articles living in female only communities

  • Your experiences buying a house alone, living alone, etc.

  • For many, their separatism also encompasses living childfree, which is a great topic:

  • Your experiences as a childfree woman

  • The awesome things you get to do because of your independence

  • Overcoming roadblocks as a childfree woman (finding doctors, birth control, etc.)

  • Anything related to feminism that you find interesting:

  • Current events

  • News articles you find interesting

  • Feminist theory

  • Inspiring women:

  • News articles/videos/anything detailing women doing something remarkable

  • Body positivity:

  • What do you love about your body?

  • Your experiences with fitness and empowerment

  • How you take care of your body, reduce stress, etc.

  • What do you love about being a woman?

Community Rules

  • Rule 1: Community purpose: First and foremost, WGTOW is a feminist, female-centered community. Any comments or posts not conducive to that end will be removed at the discretion of moderators and users may be banned. It is to be encouraged to report rule-breaking posts. You do not need to be a feminist to join, yet it is the expectation that women's rights and support is at the forefront in discussion.

  • Rule 2: Advocating violence: Any post/comment advocating violence against men will be removed. We're all fed up, but encouraging violence will get this community banned.

  • Rule 3: Support women: Women come first in this community. Do not gaslight women, belittle them, or attempt to invalidate their experiences or beliefs.

  • Rule 4: Linking to Other Subreddits & Vote Brigading. When linking to posts in other Reddit communities use a no participation link. Do this by replacing the "www" in the url with "np" so that it reads http://np.reddit.com/. This helps decrease brigading.

  • Rule 5: Don't Come Here to Debate. Productive discussion and healthy disagreement between members of our community is encouraged. However, this is not a place for men to come here and debate whether or not we're misandrists, whether or not WGTOW is a valid philosophy, or proclaim "not all men!".

*Rule 6: Don't Talk About Dating Here. We are not a sub to discuss dating or even rant about dating. You can talk about your personal experiences in relation to other topics, but the focus of this sub should be wgtow.

*Rule 7: No New/Low Karma Accounts. Accounts must be at least 1 day old and have at least 50 karma to post in wgtow.

*Rule 8: No FDS bs Don't post anything related to FDS or try to make this sub into FDS 2.0. Read more

*Rule 9: Don't Bash Men. We are a wgtow sub, so we want to keep content about men to a minimum. Please read the talking about men post for detailed rules. In short: Writing about personal experience and venting about sexism is okay, links to incel sites or sites like r/relationships and posts that would be better suited for r/nametheproblem are not.

*Rule 10: No traumatic content outside of the Trauma Thread. Please post all traumatic content in the Trauma Mega Thread. If you want to talk about trauma in a comment, post it in the Mega Thread instead and link to that comment.

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Monthly Goals Megapost

What are your personal goals for this month? Some ideas could be:

- What do you plan to further go your own way this month?

- How do you want to strengthen your bonds with your female friends?

- Fitness/Health goals

- Planned projects

- Self care

- Political activism plans (if you feel confident to share)

- Career relevant goals

- What areas of your life did you improve compared to last month?

2 Comments
2024/11/02
13:00 UTC

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Saturday: Music day

Saturday is for music lovers! Share music of your favourite female artists here.

Have you found a new song this week? Anything you listen to on repeat?

Is there an old song you just love to listen to?

Did you finally find the perfect song with great lyrics that does not talk about dating?

Share them with the community below!

1 Comment
2024/11/02
02:00 UTC

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Monthly Suggestion Post

Welcome to the new Monthly Suggestion Post. Here, we collect new ideas to help our sub grow and thrive!

Please post your suggestions below.

0 Comments
2024/11/01
20:00 UTC

151

I no longer like romances

I am cleaning my movies watchlist because I have hundreds of titles some of which I added years ago. After reading the synopsis and maybe watch the trailer, I found I no longer like romance movies. They are boring, the plot is fundamentally always the same. Now if its tagged as romance but in fact then ends up being a mystery because someone dies or is kidnapped or is hiding a secret, then I keep it... I like mysteries plus somehow seems more realistic that there's something dark behind the pink façade.

Action movies are also mostly gone. Again the plots are boring, predictable and always the same and crafted to the male audience. Can't stand them anymore.

Seems my brain is naturally decentering from patriarchy constructs which I once was fond of. Good news!

24 Comments
2024/11/01
01:57 UTC

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Wednesday: Project day

Wednesday is Project day!

Do you have any projects you are working on right now? Do you have any ideas or are you looking for inspiration?

Today we want to hear about how your garden is doing - or if you don't have one, your house plants :)

We also want to hear about your art projects! Share them with the community!

Are you doing any crafts? Are you building a new desk? Did you get into knitting? Did you finally spoil yourself and get that 3D printer you always wanted?

Post about it below or share some pictures!

0 Comments
2024/10/30
13:00 UTC

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Saturday: Music day

Saturday is for music lovers! Share music of your favourite female artists here.

Have you found a new song this week? Anything you listen to on repeat?

Is there an old song you just love to listen to?

Did you finally find the perfect song with great lyrics that does not talk about dating?

Share them with the community below!

0 Comments
2024/10/26
01:00 UTC

93

I don't like the idea of matriarchy

A matriarchal society where women are in charge would just end up with women doing all the work while the men fuck around and do nothing.

I already see this happening in many families in my country. My culture has sort of a mix of progressive and regressive practices. One of the progressive practices is that women are encouraged to have high education and high paying career. But the thing is, women are still expected to take care of the family. I see so many women doing too much and the division of labor is not equal (imho it will never be equal because there's nothing equal to pregnancy and reproductive labor). Double shift is real.

Wasn't there a matriarchal society in China or some other place and the way I see it, the women do all the labor and men don't do anything, they literally just have sex with women 💀

I don't know why other feminists think matriarchy is the ultimate feminist ideal when it should be female separatism. I'm not taking care of men just because they call me a leader girlboss.

Edit:

People are defining matriarchy differently, I don't even know what's the standard definition anymore. I only originally tried to talk about how if women are in charge, it's just going to be more work for us if a matriarchal society includes men.

Some are defining matriarchy as changing policies to cater to women's needs and rights. I thought this was just mainstream feminism -fighting for women's rights but still functioning in a society with men. Not that I don't support gaining women's rights. Gaining women's rights even under patriarchy is instrumental for women to achieve separatism, which should be the end goal of feminism.

Some are saying it's a flip of patriarchy wherein men are enslaved. I mean I don't want to live with men even if they are our slaves. And also, we already had this discussion. No xy hierarchical thinking. Additionally, women can't subjugate men the way they subjugate us because the root of our oppression is sex based.

Some are also defining matriarchy as centering motherhood. As a separatist, I'm obviously against this. Here's a link of an article about mosuo matriarchal women and how they're stigmatized if they don't have children

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/apr/01/the-kingdom-of-women-the-tibetan-tribe-where-a-man-is-never-the-boss

Notice how most define it as still living in a society with men. We're separatist and it's the exact opposite of our principles. Matriarchy will only work if we're also separate from men and reject patriarchal practices.

I posted this on other subs, many have interesting replies. Overall a good discussion.

74 Comments
2024/10/24
11:48 UTC

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The Myth of Love: How Women Are Trapped by Romance | Germaine Greer

From fairy tales to modern-day media, women are conditioned to sacrifice their autonomy, ambitions, and financial independence in the pursuit of love. Join me as I break down Greer's critique, uncovering how these romantic ideals can be a trap that keeps women tethered to roles of emotional labor, subservience, and economic dependency.

11 Comments
2024/10/23
16:38 UTC

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Wednesday: Project day

Wednesday is Project day!

Do you have any projects you are working on right now? Do you have any ideas or are you looking for inspiration?

Today we want to hear about how your garden is doing - or if you don't have one, your house plants :)

We also want to hear about your art projects! Share them with the community!

Are you doing any crafts? Are you building a new desk? Did you get into knitting? Did you finally spoil yourself and get that 3D printer you always wanted?

Post about it below or share some pictures!

2 Comments
2024/10/23
12:00 UTC

128

“Idk what I would’ve done if my husband wasn’t there!”

Damn what a helpless feeling that must be. Can’t relate.

I talk to my married friends and I catch them saying this and they’re completely serious and I can easily think of multiple things I would have done in that situation to help myself. I’ve been in similar situations where I had to help myself and it was fine and I’m really thankful for those experiences honestly because I’ve learned to be self-sufficient and know if anything should happen I’ve got this.

It’s also kind of concerning sometimes how small of an inconvenience we are talking about and yet they have a full inability to function. And when they say it it’s like they are so happy their husband is there to “save” them and it’s like “you had a cramp in your leg and needed to massage it before you could get up it’s not that serious.”

That was the example of what I heard a friend say today. She woke up with a cramp in her leg and needed it massaged. Had no idea what she would’ve done without her husband. I just can’t.

37 Comments
2024/10/20
03:43 UTC

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Saturday: Music day

Saturday is for music lovers! Share music of your favourite female artists here.

Have you found a new song this week? Anything you listen to on repeat?

Is there an old song you just love to listen to?

Did you finally find the perfect song with great lyrics that does not talk about dating?

Share them with the community below!

0 Comments
2024/10/19
01:00 UTC

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Wednesday: Project day

Wednesday is Project day!

Do you have any projects you are working on right now? Do you have any ideas or are you looking for inspiration?

Today we want to hear about how your garden is doing - or if you don't have one, your house plants :)

We also want to hear about your art projects! Share them with the community!

Are you doing any crafts? Are you building a new desk? Did you get into knitting? Did you finally spoil yourself and get that 3D printer you always wanted?

Post about it below or share some pictures!

1 Comment
2024/10/16
12:00 UTC

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Mid-Month Pet Megapost

It's this time of the month... we post about our pets! Of course, you are always welcome to post them, so don't let this new format stop you from posting about your pets any time of the month.

However, today, we encourage you to absolutely spam the sub with pictures, anecdotes and little tales of your pets. You can either create your own post (don't forget to use the pets flair!) or comment on this post. Please remove any identifying information to protect yourself from getting doxxed.

6 Comments
2024/10/15
12:00 UTC

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Saturday: Music day

Saturday is for music lovers! Share music of your favourite female artists here.

Have you found a new song this week? Anything you listen to on repeat?

Is there an old song you just love to listen to?

Did you finally find the perfect song with great lyrics that does not talk about dating?

Share them with the community below!

0 Comments
2024/10/12
01:00 UTC

10

Books about post-partum depression under a feminist perspective?

I'm doing research on the subject and would like suggestions.

6 Comments
2024/10/11
15:04 UTC

45

Any books on embracing aloneness and living alone?

I have only been in one long distance relationship where I never saw the guy and it took me a while to realize I have zero desire to be with a man.

I also think I am asexual and don’t feel like having s** or being intimate with a man and I am not attracted to women.

I just want to be financially stable and be content.

I am thinking of living alone and need to accept solitude. How do I come to terms and also accept it? How do I stay safe? (I tell people I am engaged to someone from a different country so they can leave me alone).

10 Comments
2024/10/10
05:18 UTC

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New Members Introduction Post

We welcome all our new (or old) members on wgtow. Do you want to introduce yourself? Please do so! Just be careful to not share too many personal information and keep yourself save.

Some introduction prompts (which you can, but don't have to answer):

- What is your age-range?

- What made you go wgtow?

- What are your hobbies and projects?

- What do you love most about being a wgtow?

- What does going your own way mean to you?

- How do you want to contribute to this sub?

- Are you new to wgtow or have you always been a separatist and just didn't have the word for it?

1 Comment
2024/10/09
13:00 UTC

5

Wednesday: Project day

Wednesday is Project day!

Do you have any projects you are working on right now? Do you have any ideas or are you looking for inspiration?

Today we want to hear about how your garden is doing - or if you don't have one, your house plants :)

We also want to hear about your art projects! Share them with the community!

Are you doing any crafts? Are you building a new desk? Did you get into knitting? Did you finally spoil yourself and get that 3D printer you always wanted?

Post about it below or share some pictures!

0 Comments
2024/10/09
12:00 UTC

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Trauma Megathread

Welcome to the monthly Trauma Megathread. Please post all traumatic content here. Traumatic content outside the megapost is no longer allowed.

Rules:

  • All traumatic posts are to be posted only in this thread.
  • Posts about traumatic content elsewhere will be deleted.
  • If you're replying to a comment on a non traumatic post with something traumatic, please write it in the trauma thread instead and then link to it in your comment. This way, only users who follow the link will have to see it.
  • Traumatic content must still follow the rules about talking about men.
  • Detailed descriptions of traumatic incidents are not allowed and will be removed (this is to keep our community safe from creeps).
  • Some resources for dealing with trauma are linked in this wiki post.

We are taking these steps to ensure the safety and well-being of our community. Please be cooperative in the implementation of these new rules and report traumatic content outside the Trauma Megathread.

1 Comment
2024/10/06
12:05 UTC

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Saturday: Music day

Saturday is for music lovers! Share music of your favourite female artists here.

Have you found a new song this week? Anything you listen to on repeat?

Is there an old song you just love to listen to?

Did you finally find the perfect song with great lyrics that does not talk about dating?

Share them with the community below!

1 Comment
2024/10/05
01:00 UTC

69

Having kids and being WGTOW

I (24F) have never really imagined being married, even though I grew up in a traditional African household. I sometimes desire men sexually (I’m straight), but never romantically. I like romance in books but not in real life. I’ve never even been on a date or had sex. To be frank, I don’t really see that changing any time soon. So WGTOW generally comes natural to me.

However, when I see two futures for myself: single woman living a small house / condo by herself, reading, cooking, and doing other hobbies, or a mom with 2-3 girls. A man rarely appeared in the latter option, but I don’t want to raise kids by myself. I also think that I don’t want to live with a man, it’s basically inviting patriarchy into my home, when it’s supposed to be a safe haven. I don’t think I could tolerate him saying anything misogynistic. However, one of my brother’s marriage seems good and he participates in the household with his wife. He is also one of my only brothers who hasn’t been misogynistic towards me.

What would you do if you’re straight and WGTOW, but want kids? Should I reconsider having them? This has been on my mind for a while and I’m conflicted.

45 Comments
2024/10/03
10:41 UTC

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Monthly Goals Megapost

What are your personal goals for this month? Some ideas could be:

- What do you plan to further go your own way this month?

- How do you want to strengthen your bonds with your female friends?

- Fitness/Health goals

- Planned projects

- Self care

- Political activism plans (if you feel confident to share)

- Career relevant goals

- What areas of your life did you improve compared to last month?

1 Comment
2024/10/02
12:00 UTC

4

Wednesday: Project day

Wednesday is Project day!

Do you have any projects you are working on right now? Do you have any ideas or are you looking for inspiration?

Today we want to hear about how your garden is doing - or if you don't have one, your house plants :)

We also want to hear about your art projects! Share them with the community!

Are you doing any crafts? Are you building a new desk? Did you get into knitting? Did you finally spoil yourself and get that 3D printer you always wanted?

Post about it below or share some pictures!

2 Comments
2024/10/02
12:00 UTC

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Monthly Suggestion Post

Welcome to the new Monthly Suggestion Post. Here, we collect new ideas to help our sub grow and thrive!

Please post your suggestions below.

2 Comments
2024/10/01
20:00 UTC

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Saturday: Music day

Saturday is for music lovers! Share music of your favourite female artists here.

Have you found a new song this week? Anything you listen to on repeat?

Is there an old song you just love to listen to?

Did you finally find the perfect song with great lyrics that does not talk about dating?

Share them with the community below!

1 Comment
2024/09/28
01:00 UTC

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Wednesday: Project day

Wednesday is Project day!

Do you have any projects you are working on right now? Do you have any ideas or are you looking for inspiration?

Today we want to hear about how your garden is doing - or if you don't have one, your house plants :)

We also want to hear about your art projects! Share them with the community!

Are you doing any crafts? Are you building a new desk? Did you get into knitting? Did you finally spoil yourself and get that 3D printer you always wanted?

Post about it below or share some pictures!

1 Comment
2024/09/25
12:00 UTC

116

I learned a lot on reddit but I had to let this content go

To focus on myself because I realised many ladies were making excuses for harmful men, gaslighting or giving me strange responses/ deflecting when I made a point concering peoples behaviour/ intentions.


I preserve my energy and after being too open on certain subs and realising some ladies do not want to live a life outside of men and I had to distance myself.


I cut out all of these subs and content from my life because the best way is to focus on yourself instead of trying to save ungreatful people.


I stopped writting analysises as well because at the end of the way people make choices , same story, same script and there is a simple solution to your issues as a girl/ woman.


The content helped me to realise the truth and exist an abusive relationship however as time passed I was slowly wondered 'what can I do to redirect my attention and protect myself?'. I decided to be childfree and single, it is a breath of fresh air because I can actually have time to contribute to ny hobbies.


Now I'm looking for pratical ways of self defense due to the increase in violence in my country. Does anyone have any tips?

7 Comments
2024/09/21
15:25 UTC

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Saturday: Music day

Saturday is for music lovers! Share music of your favourite female artists here.

Have you found a new song this week? Anything you listen to on repeat?

Is there an old song you just love to listen to?

Did you finally find the perfect song with great lyrics that does not talk about dating?

Share them with the community below!

1 Comment
2024/09/21
01:00 UTC

318

I’m so tired of the social pressure to be romantically or sexually involved with men that I want to withdraw of society completely

Men and I aren’t compatible. Personally I don’t care about anything sexual much, I can totally go my whole life without even kissing someone again, but men just can’t meet my emotional needs and it ends up with me being labeled a psycho, drama queen, overly sensitive and anything else that belittles and ridicules my feelings and ends with resentment on both sides.

I’m totally okay with it. Really. I don’t miss anything about being in love with a man, but it’s so hard to withstand the social pressure and being a target, especially when you’re single by choice. I just want to live my life and be left alone, but I’m constantly being pressured into dating men even though I know that this isn’t good for me. It starts at home that my grandmother tells me all the time that her biggest wish is for me to find a „good man“, my mom sees in every man I have to interact with a love interest for me, my friends constantly tell me that I will find someone and I will change my mind sooner or later about wanting to stay alone and no matter what social media app I open there’s not one where men won’t bully women into (toxic) relationships even though they’re happy being single. I can’t stand men telling women over 25-30 that they’re „expired“ and „ran through“ and have to settle with anyone that still wants them, being called depressed cat lady (jokes on you my mental health is way worse when there’s a man in my life) and even being basically told to die, because without serving a man as a bang maid and incubator we’re useless. There’s no escape from it. Not online, not in real life. I’m so tired, exhausted and burned out. I really can’t take the alienation in best case and hate in worst case anymore.

58 Comments
2024/09/20
17:50 UTC

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Wednesday: Project day

Wednesday is Project day!

Do you have any projects you are working on right now? Do you have any ideas or are you looking for inspiration?

Today we want to hear about how your garden is doing - or if you don't have one, your house plants :)

We also want to hear about your art projects! Share them with the community!

Are you doing any crafts? Are you building a new desk? Did you get into knitting? Did you finally spoil yourself and get that 3D printer you always wanted?

Post about it below or share some pictures!

1 Comment
2024/09/18
12:00 UTC

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