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[Vader is Luke's father.](#spoiler)
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I know that mobile gaming can be, uh, controversial. But as someone who played this game for years, I absolutely adored it. It was super fun, and I managed to reach the highest tiers without spending a cent. It was also really cool to see characters from the comics in it like Doctor Aphra, Evaan Verlaine... etc.
I played this game from launch till the literal final hours. Sadly, it got discontinued. Meanwhile Galaxy of Heroes is somehow still kicking when it's no where near as fun.
I still remember sitting at the dinner table watching the first trailer on my phone and being hesitantly interested in it. Yes the end to stories I grew up on was rough (Yeah they still exist but we wouldn't be getting any more stories with my Luke let alone lesser known characters) and people using the promises of the NEU to bash Legends and its fans was hurtful but it was Star Wars on the big screen again and would be the second SW movie I had ever seen in theaters, well third but I'm not counting the TCW movie.
And after 10 years I feel like the only thing holding me back from saying yes it was worth it was what happened to the OT characters and Republic in the ST.
In 10 years we've had some great movies like RO and shows like Andor, Rebels, Mando and others. I've seen things I never thought I'd get to see on screen like Ossus and Tython and Luke skywalker flying in to save the day. Sure the failure rate between movies being announced and then falling through is high and the runtime on the shows could all be longer and more consistent (IF Star Trek can do it while having two live action shows running at once so should Star Wars) they have introduced a lot of people to things only book and comic readers have cared about before hand.
The comics and books have also gotten a lot better. Others as well as myself weren't to happy with the Denningverse books or the final Dark Horse Star Wars comic and at the start of the NEU all of the books being tie ins to the movies and the comics having some art and characterization problems didn't seem like it was any better. Add in the different feeling of having Urban Lit and romance authors writing instead of Sci-Fi authors and it felt a little odd.
But its really grown and characters like Aphra have become standout fan favorites while we got some really great Vader runs as well as good arcs for Luke, Leia, and even Valance who is now more of a NEU character than a Legends character. And now that the movies are over we have gotten a lot more interesting books that are branching out in the timeline and telling their own interesting stories. Some of them like the Thrawn books or Padawan's Pride or Brotherhood even feel like they could be a Legends book if you just squinted a little. And while I have my issues with some of the pacing and reveals of The High Republic project its still my favorite NEU product of anything else and one of my favorite eras of all of Star Wars. And while the art in the comics has never matched up to Dark Horse it has still given us great scenes that became instant backgrounds for my desktop.
We've also gotten some good games out of the switch. Not a lot and not without their issues (Outlaw's bugs or BFII's roadmap getting dumped just when the game was getting good) but they have all been fun to play and took up days worth of my life.
The only thing that really holds me back from saying "Yes it is worth it" Is the ST. Luke dying without leaving behind a functioning jedi academy or without training Rey (As in like what yoda did over weeks vs three lessons telling her to not be a jedi) is something I'm not sure I will ever be able to get over. Han leaving Leia, Leia back to leading a small resistance, Lando being drunk and alone, all of those have scarred over. And some things like the ease with which the FO rose to power and the New Republic fell have even been improved on over the past four years where I can be ok with it now.
I can understand why others would say it is worth it. And not liking the post Denningverse books or the final DH comics all that much I can understand being happy with what we got in exchange. I think if it wasn't for Luke and his legacy it would be very easy to say that yes the change was worth it because of all the shows, movies, books, comics, and games we have gotten. I have as long a list of things I don't like as things I do but overall I do think the fresh start and what we got have been worth it. I just wish Luke and Rey could have spent more time together or that Luke lived and I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to get rid of that even in another ten years.
Obviously you have the Aftermath and Alphabet Trilogies along with Battlefront 2 campaign, but with the release of The Battle of Jakku comics (Currently it in it's second series Republic under Siege.)
I have been trying to gathered the information or organise a timeline for these events as I'm making my notes on the book ''Skywalker A Family at War.'' in terms of listing the main primary sources. I also need help for novels themslves as well like a chapter by chapter breakdown for books such as The Princess and the Scoundrel, Aftermath Trilogy, Alphabet Squadron, and Lost Stars as well as comics like Shattered Empire.
Art by Madibek Musabekov
Not everyone probably noticed it, but the recent book Star Wars Encyclopedia: The Comprehensive Guide to the Star Wars Galaxy presented more information on the Sith that Luke Skywalker faced in Star Wars (2020) comic run. Charles Soule introduced this character in issues 35, 42, 43.
By virtue of the fact that his name is Gol I am beginning to be convinced that this is another Sith that Charles Soule is building as the basis for his vision regarding the New Sith Wars. Why do I think so? His name is Gol. His other title according to the book was , “Wither King”. He does not have the title Darth, suggesting that the Sith did not use that title. Recently, Sith from their early days in canon have been given their titles, an example being Darth Ravi from the High Republic comics. His entire fortress looks like some kind of medieval fortress, plus the New Sith Wars had a certain medieval/early modern vibe in the legends and there was even a Jedi jester in his court. In addition, the whole setting that was depicted in this vision that Luke experienced indicated that this Sith was separated from the rest of the galaxy, just as it was in the last century of the New Sith Wars.
It seems to me that all the Sith in the canon who don't have the title of Darth will probably exist in this period, e.g. Exim Panshard (he was the viceroy of the planet, he found the sword of Darth Noctyss - meaning he must have been before her and already Noctyss herself in Dark Legends found Darth Sanquis, who was probably one of the oldest Sith.)
Guys, we need something about Old Republic right now...
I've personally been keen to learn more about the canon Bane. Just off Clone Wars alone we know he was very different than the EU version and new canon material has given us some hints about him.
Perhaps most notably the Star Wars 2020 run by Charles Soule established that the Jedi were not only aware of Bane but they successfully brought him down and his fall essentially heralded in the High Republic era. This is very different from the EU take as Bane was very secretive and any Jedi who discovered him ended up dead. Presumably in canon Bane had a secret apprentice who survived and carried on the Sith legacy. Maybe it's still Zannah or maybe it's a new character.
I'd also be curious to see what if any elements of the EU version get adapted somewhat. Like maybe some aspects of Bane and Zannah's relationship. Or certain characters like Hoth and some of the Sith characters from the first EU book like Kaan and Githany.
Most of all I want to see how he kills the other Sith in canon. It's been implied that he did it much more directly than tricking them with the Thought Bomb so I really want to see how he accomplished it.
Thoughts?
I have hope that Disney will still release the books in the "From a Certain Point of View" anthology for each of the 9 Star Wars episodes. I don't have access to any privileged information, it's just theory. That's why I started speculating which characters could gain a POV in the books. So I decided to start with the phantom menace. Let me warn you that I'm such a casual fan of Star Wars that I had to look on the wiki for the "official" name of many of the names that are here.
Besides, I don't think we're going to have a POV of the jedi council members because they don't do much in this one, so I think it should be left for the Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith anthology. I'll do the other episodes another day. Okay enough talking
The phantom menace
May can enter: one of the queen's mayds might enter. Some other pod runner. One of the gungas (maybe one controlling those "dinosaurs") another pilot and another of the queen's soldiers
Im trying to build a custom lego ut at but cant find any pictures of the ut at's interior, can anyone help pls
How can the Empire Remnants under Gallius Rax attack Burning Konn during Operation Cinder even when the planet was inside the Iron Blockade of the Anoat Sector? Why and when Adelhard have permitteted that?
During the events of the book Aftermath: Life Debt which takes place around the same time period as The Battle of Jakku comics Leia tried to lobby for ships and resources to be sent to liberate Kashyyyk, Mothma praised her for her idealism but warned her that the New Republic was preoccupied with trying to govern the galaxy. Despite Leia's pleas, Mothma reasoned that the New Republic lacked sufficient resources and manpower to liberate Kashyyyk. Frustrated, Leia stormed off.
Ultimately the point here is that the book Life Debt and even The Battle of Jakku - Republic Under Siege Issue 1 paints their friendship in a really interesting light, outright stating that Leia is an idealist and Mon is a realist.
Even after the Fall of the Galactic Empire they still disagreed on the right course of action heck Leia even opposed to the demilitarisation of the New Republic.
Now moving 4-6 years after the Battle of Jakku during the events of the Ahsoka show when Hera Syndulla request resources from Mon Mothma and other senators to aid in searching for Ezra and Grand Admiral Thrawn, in which the request was soon declined. As we know In response, Syndulla took a small squadron of X-wings and decided to continue with the search regardless. Leia was soon informed of this, though supported Syndulla's actions and decided to cover for her. The New Republic were quick to respond to this however, and Leia soon contacted Captain Carson Teva and told him that she could only cover for them for so long. Teva passed the message down to Syndulla, who searched for her friends Sabine Wren and Ahsoka Tano. Tano was eventually found and pursued the hunt for Thrawn and Bridger, whilst Syndulla was left to deal with the consequences from the New Republic leading to her trial led by Senator Hamato Xiono for disobeying direct orders.
As we know Leia sent C-3PO to represent her in the trial and defend her friend. Before claiming that Leia had only recently become aware of the situation, the protocol droid presented a data transcript on the senator's behalf to prove that Leia had personally authorized syndulla's reconnaissance mission to Seatos while she was unaware of Xiono's vote against it. C-3PO also added that Leia was willing to overlook the alleged mistake, with the request that further concerns be addressed directly to her. As Xiono reluctantly claimed to be satisfied, Mothma dismissed the case despite knowing that Leia did not authorize the mission beforehand as claimed.
Anyway the point of this post is that the way The Battle of Jakku -- Republic under siege Issue 1, Aftermath Life Debt and all other canon media plays out is that Leia is willing to take both personal and political risks, whereas Mon absolutely is not.
Ultimately it interesting how their friendship change over time compared to before and after the Battle of Endor or after the founding of the New Republic. In fact as someone who studies U.S. History and even History in general this reminded me a lot of what happened the friendship between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams becoming strained after both disagreed on how the United States should be governed after the revolution. It’s only after both men retire from politics, and at the end of their lives is where they rekindled their friendship.
The same could be said about the relationship between Leia and Mon Mothma after the New Republic is formed where they have very different political positions on how the New Republic should be governed or function after the Galactic Civil War both clearly disagreed on the right course of action as we see with Kashyyyk and Thrawn.
In 28 ABY (19-17 years after the events of the Ahsoka show.) during the events of Bloodline Leia had a political scandal after the public revelation that she is the daughter of Darth Vader which resulted in her resignation in the Senate. By this point Mon Mothma had already been long retired from politics (We don't know when she retired from office it could be during the Late 10s ABY or the Early 20s ABY?.) Despite this however she showed her personal support for Leia after her resignation from the senate and the political senate. Which indicated that they may have rekindled their friendship a few years or more after her retirement from politics kinda like what happened with John Adams and Thomas Jefferson during their final years of life!
Is the grift a cult?
Probably should add that this is for a paper. No judgement
Are the Star Wars Comics UK strips collected elsewhere? It was an old magazine https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Comic_UK
I started my timeline of media about four years ago and I'm still updating it. I noticed a story called "The Betrayal" and I cannot remember out what it is for the life of me. It's early in 22 BBY post-AotC and pre-Clone Wars. It could be a short story or comic or comic story in an comic anthology. Can't find it on Wookiepedia. Can anyone help?
Does anyone else consider the clone wars animated series tie in novels to be canon still since the show is canon?
For an example If I recall A Pre-Mor officer says that the vehicle Cassian uses is “some old thing,” speculating it could be an Orlean Star Cab. 1993’s Galaxy Guide 8: Scouts identified the Orlean Star Cab as the oldest ship still in service.
There is also earlier mentions of Mon Mothma's parents who through the sourcebooks we learn that her father was an arbiter-general in the Galactic Republic, and her mother was a governor on their homeworld of Chandrila. So based on this detail they seem like very talent and taught their daughter well in terms of democracy and the Republic values. Yet as shown Andor they also arrange her to be married with Perrin of all people. So it would nice to learn more about them and what kind of people were they besides these details.
Something I'm curious besides Mon Mothma's daughter is how faithful and accurate in terms of direct translation from a brief paragraph from the sourcebooks like say The ISB it's history, structure and headquarters to the small screen that we see in Andor?
Like what details from the sourcebooks they keep the same and what new details they added through the show itself for an example think of the translation of books and comics to the big-small screens especially when someone studies I don't for an example the Batman Animated Series and despite the being original it still adapted some story-lines from comics like the Ra Al Ghul first storyline or the earlier game of thrones seasons from 1-4 or even House of the Dragon Season 1?
Hi r/starwarscanon,
I'm working on a personal project, purely for my own enjoyment, trying to remove and adjust Legends content from Matthew Stover's Revenge of the Sith Novelization. I call it a "Canon Edit" because my goal is to get it to a point where someone like Dave Filoni would accept it as official Canon. I'm not promoting it or anything, this is something I'm keeping as a personal project because I don't really specialize in fanfiction. It's proven fairly difficult so far, but ChatGPT has been a major help in analyzing passages I copy+paste to it and telling me if it aligns with Disney Canon or not. I think it's been a great creative exercise so far; I've learned a lot about Stover's style and going through every single line and thinking about how it ties into what we know in Canon has helped me connect to his story like never before (I've read the regular novelization 2 times before this.) It's also helped me refine my own writing voice because Matthew Stover is one of my biggest inspirations, and I've taken the poetic structure he uses and made it my own in my own writing. He really is a great writer. Anyway, I just thought this would be a cool thing to tell fellow fans of Star Wars. Thoughts, opinions, questions, comments? Anything is appreciated!
In the lead up to Andor Season 2 I figured on making a history on Ghorman at least what we know currently I mostly will use the wiki for my research let me started with the description:
Ghorman was a terrestrial planet[4] located in a star system[8] in the Sern sector[3] within an intersecting portion of the Interior[2] and the Colonies regions. Situated at the coordinates L-13 on the Standard Galactic Grid, the world fell along the Rimma Trade Route[1] super-hyperroute[9] between the[1] planets[10][11] Giju and Thyferra. [1] Ghorman is home to materials such as the Ghorman velvet and Ghorman silk.[12]^('')
Now let move about it's history for the most part there is a lot of Ghorman history as in during the Old Republic but it really got it's prominence to the story in The Clone Wars as Ghorman was represented in the Galactic Senate by Senator Fang Zar who also represent the entire Sern Sector. In case you don't know he is the Indian senator in the Delegation of 2,000 deleted scenes that protested Chancellor Palpatine's accumulation of emergency powers. After the Republic transitioned into the Galactic Empire, Zar was arrested along with other Petition signatories as alleged collaborators with the Jedi and that is how this part of his canon story ends.
Legends does reveal the fate of Zar mainly in the book Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader by James Luceno in the book we learn Zar was eventually released from custody but ordered to remain on Coruscant. He instead fled to Alderaan, where he was sheltered by Senator Bail Organa. The Empire, learning of Zar's flight, sent Darth Vader to Alderaan to retrieve him. As Zar tried to escape on a smuggler's ship, Vader fatally wounded him with his lightsaber Zar died from his injuries while being treated aboard the smuggler's ship en route to Sern Prime.
Granted most of this is about Senator Zar still he was still the senator of the Sern Sector which includes Ghorman.
Regardless It was from this point after the formation of the Galactic Empire that the planet fell into Imperial rule and oppression. Although we don't know when they were form but it was around this time that the Ghorman Front became active on the planet.
As we saw in Season 1 around 5 BBY, There were discussing in the Imperial Senate about the Empire policies towards the Ghorman in which the book Rise and Fall of the Galactic Empire even called them the ''Ghorman Debates it was around this time that Imperial officials including Ars Dangor and Sly Moore cut off Ghorman's shipping lanes, affecting the food supply of the Ghormans. Mon Mothma, opposed this decision to cut off Ghorman's shipping lanes, even arguing with her husband about hosting Sly Moore and Ars Dangor who were responsible there is also a mention of Senator Dhow proposed a fact-finding commission into the Empire's treatment of the Ghormans, which Mothma supported, but the effort was interrupted due to the news from the Aldhani Heist.