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Welcome to r/StarWarsCanon a place to discuss the current Canon of Star Wars and related media.

We are a discussion-based subreddit on all things related to the current Star Wars canon as established by the Lucasfilm Story Group on April 25, 2014.



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1. On-Topic Posts: All content must relate to the Star Wars canon. (No "Bring Back Legends")

2. Tag Relevant Spoilers: Keep spoilers out of post titles. Observe the wait time from when posting untagged spoilers will be acceptable:

  • Movies - 3 weeks from theatrical release
  • Books - 1 month from release
  • Short Stories - 1 month from release
  • Comics - 1 week from release
  • TV Show - 1 week from release
  • Video Games - 1 month from release

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4. Do NOT Post: Memes, clickbait, reposts, fan art, links/comments about piracy, "Disney canon" bashing, product photos (unless an item is found before it's release date), incomplete canon collections, or other low-effort content.

5. Self-Promotion: Is allowed but submit other content FIRST and follow other guidelines below.

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2024/05/21
05:08 UTC

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Any update on production of the Rey Star Wars movie

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2024/05/18
18:24 UTC

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If you were someone in power in Lucasfilm how would you fix Star Wars Canon?

Now before people would go and start saying ''Fire Dave Filoni.'' I want to do something else Let say I have a powerfully position in Lucasfilm one of my first acts is giving The Lucasfilm Story Group unchecked power or full power in general instead of them being more of advisory group.

With that in mind One of my next moves is created the position of Lore Master as in someone who would be serving as a Lore Consultant for future Star Wars films and shows and makes some aspects from the books are aligned what happened in the shows and movies?

Another position that I would create is call Continuity Editor where they serve as well editors for books and comics they make sure and check on the page for each book or medium to for errors whether it is related to continuity or typos in general?

What do you all think of my plan to give Canon more tight and restrictive continuity that was promised more then a decade ago?

49 Comments
2024/05/17
22:53 UTC

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Could games like Republic Commando and Bounty Hunter still be considered canon?

My apologies if there's a clear answer disproving them as part of canon (aside from them releasing before 2014), but as far as I'm aware nothing within the those games contradicts with current canon right? Could the events of the games technically still have happened?

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2024/05/17
00:11 UTC

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If Skywalker: A Family at War was to receive an updated version, say around 2026 what information would it included given it is a in-universe work?

The Only additional chapters that I could see this new edition covering or at least given mentions is events from Jedi: Fallen Order, the Tarkin novel, Jedi: Survivor, Kenobi, The rest of the Mandoverse, (for the Skywalker twins.) the first two seasons of Rebels, Thrawn: Alliances, Shadow of the Sith, Battlefront 2, The Aftermath Trilogy, The Princess and the Scoundral, Brotherhood, The Rest of the Star Wars and Vader's 2020 comics, and Vader: Black, White, & Red?

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2024/05/16
22:12 UTC

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Admiral Ar'Alani of the Chiss Ascendancy Expansionary Defense Fleet, commission by Olivier Vatine for Lake Como Comic Art Festival

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2024/05/16
19:55 UTC

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Which female Sith Lord had the most untapped potential?

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2024/05/15
18:01 UTC

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A bit behind. What should I read next?

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2024/05/15
05:27 UTC

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Timeline of Inquisitor Media

With Tales of the Empire out now, I started delving back into one of my favorite new canon elements: the inquisitors

I was curious if any other canon junkies could help me out piecing together the timeline of the Vader comics (2017), Rise of the Red Blade, and Tales of the Empire.

My main question is the timeline of when characters got recruited aka the beginnings of the inquisitorious. Would it go Vader Vol 1-2, then Tales episode 1 being parallel with Iskats recruitment? I’m more so confused on the first tales episode, as it seems like little to no time passed between Barris being recruited to shipped off to the fortress. Also it seemed like Iskat was recruited earlier than the others but I could be wrong.

Also when was The Grand Inquisitor recruited? I’m assuming he was the first one but again, I could be wrong. Thanks in advance

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2024/05/14
19:36 UTC

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Which ancient Sith Lord do you think had the greatest untapped potential, and how they would've achieved it?

7 Comments
2024/05/14
17:30 UTC

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My updated Thrawn Display at work.

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2024/05/13
17:21 UTC

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Which Star Wars theories should've been Canon?

86 Comments
2024/05/12
17:18 UTC

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Besides Palpatine, who would've been a better choice for Episode Nine?

406 Comments
2024/05/11
14:58 UTC

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I love how Tarkin is shown in the thrawn novel

Just been thinking on how Tarkin uses Moff Ghadi's underhanded resistance to Thrawn to send a message to others. Withhold repairs to thrawns mid size ship, and withhold a rightful promotion to his adjutant? Instead of repairing the ship he just gives him a freaking star destroyer, and not just the rightful promotion, might as well triple it. Ah, and for good measure Thrawn needs to promoted to flag rank. Classic Tarkin, more is always more.

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2024/05/10
06:14 UTC

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Which novels/comics are contradicted by the movies/shows?

I know that there's at least 5 books that are contradicted. Anymore?

Kanan Comics

Ahsoka Novel

Dark Disciple

Aftermath Trilogy

Darth Vader Comics

68 Comments
2024/05/10
02:10 UTC

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Considering the episodes takes place at the same time, What is the exact order of event for the Nightsister Massacre or in other words what is the chronological order of the CW episode ''Massacre'' and Tales of the Empire ''Path of Fear.''

Granted I know people will go in the comments and say ''Filoni hates Canon.'' or something I'm more interested in the line of ''Wait a minute were Morgan and her clan from the beginning of path fighting while Ventress was knock out unconscious or Did they begin to fight with the whole zombies stuff before Grievous kill the Great Mother.''

In other worlds what are the exact chronology of the event Was Morgan fighting with the Nightsisters during the middle part of Massacre where Ventress was leading in charge with the add of zombies or was this take place at the end when the zombies were destroyed and Ventress was knock out unconscious essentially after Talzin escape before about to kill Dooku?

Another idea which the wiki goes with is that the Morgan stuff takes place after Ventress which itself is interesting as it would mean she would allow her people to die when leaving Dathomir personality like she could had help Morgan and her mother during their front instead of leaving them to die with the droids.

Personality I go with the whole Morgan stuff happening when Ventress was unconscious it is a story technique that was used for The Hobbit when Biblo was also unconscious only to hear about what happened with the Battle of Five Armies through word of mouth.

Aside from the Ventress/Talzin and Morgan stuff I wonder where do the Merrin and Yenna or even the character Bug (as well as her story.) fit in exact order of events when Grievous begin rampaging the entire planet of Dathomir?

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2024/05/09
19:40 UTC

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Can someone give me a complete list of the release/publishing order of all the canon graphic novels?

I know this is asking a lot but I’m someone who prefers release order but I can’t find one on the internet. I see a lot of chronological timelines which are helpful but I wanted to read everything in release order.

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2024/05/09
12:54 UTC

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The one big element of Thrawn that the TV shows are missing so far.

So overall I've actually liked Thrawn's portrayal in the various shows. It's not perfect but I think the primary core of the character has been captured relatively well in my opinion. Tales of the Empire in particular was a highlight because we finally got to see him talking about valuing lives over profit which is definitely a key part of his character especially in the new canon books.

However that got me to thinking about one part of Thrawn's character which the shows haven't really touched. That being that he is a teacher to those around him. The books often have scenes where Thrawn's subordinates are confronted with a mystery and we see Thrawn (who obviously already knows what's going on) trying to guide them to the answer. The books often describe him as an instructor trying to guide his student to the correct answer. Because Thrawn wants everyone under his command to be just as intelligent and discerning as he is. Most Imperials with such gifts would keep them to themselves but Thrawn wants to share them to make a better Empire.

I've recently realized the shows don't really have any scenes like this and I think including one of these scenes would go a long way towards connecting the TV version of the character to the books and giving Thrawn more layers for those who haven't read the books. Thoughts?

57 Comments
2024/05/07
15:10 UTC

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I think what the "Mando-Verse" or Post-RotJ/Pre-TFA era needs is a Star Trek-style crew-based show

Rangers of the New Republic was planned, got canned, but that always seemed to be focused around mostly sheriff-esque characters who happened to work for the New Republic. That's not quite what I'm talking about.

Skeleton Crew could evolve into this I suppose. AFAIK it seems to be kids coming together and going on an adventure. I think it'll be interesting, and could end up a Harry Potter/Stranger Things style, the audience aging with the characters style sub-franchise within the Skywalker Saga, but it's not exactly what I'm thinking of.

One thing that both the EU and now the new canon with the Mando-shows have struggled with is keeping the idea of the Empire having been defeated within a year of Endor at Jakku, and the Galaxy being at peace-time for the next 30+ years. What can you fill that with when stories require conflict to be compelling? Star Wars without the wars, something The High Republic era has also had to sidestep and work around compared to the Old Republic's storytelling. Same reason we don't get stories set between TPM and AotC all too often.

Mandalorian has so far backtracked that to say, "well Thrawn was really working in the shadows and actually there's a bunch of Imperial remnants bumming around", which really seemed like something the story group initially wanted to avoid, especially considering Legends kept the remnant going for like 20+ years post Endor, which became sort of a meme, secret fleets, super-weapons, and Imperial agents always popping out of the woodwork.

Creatively they've also been forced to sort of pin the blame on the New Republic to keep the conflict going. When the protagonists are all free agents and solo heroes, you've got to make the government look kinda incompetent for letting everything with the Imperial remnants and double agents last as long as they have. I get SW as always been rebellious and about individuals' gumption, but after Luke, Han, and Leia worked so hard for a better world, it's a little disheartening to see it all just be mired in the same corruption the pre-Empire Republic was.

And they totally could keep these shows going for years exploring the galaxy as it stands. I feel like they're trying to cram the stock formula into a era it doesn't really fit though.

So I'm rewatching the original Star Trek movies, Motion Picture, Wrath of Kahn, etc. and I'm imagining their basic premises in that block of the Skywalker Saga. I thought about the redesigned outfits made to be more naval/militaristic and how Star Wars usually only lets Imperial villains have that aesthetic, which got me thinking. Imagine a long running show about a New Republic ship going on a years long mission during peace time, sometimes struggling with factions but never breaking out into a real war. The crew filled with interesting dynamics and colourful characters all fully encapsulating the ethos of Mothma and Leia's new democracy, potentially spinning off into films and other shows where other members of the crew become captains of their own ships.

Motion Picture jumps ahead like 5 years after a lot of the crew's characters have gone their own way. Wrath of Kahn jumps ahead again another 10 years and leans into the idea of the captain and crew aging and fighting a charismatic underdog villain from their past, most fans ignore movie 3 and 5, but Voyage Home is a more ordinary mission, while Undiscovered Country follows their efforts to put an end to a long cold war.

That seems like a better framework to hang this era on than just Djinn and Grogu running into people.

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2024/05/06
18:55 UTC

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Rankings of all 11 star wars movies?

Mine are

1.) A New Hope 9/10 A classic space western with compelling action, characters, and story

2.) Empire strikes back 8.5 I liked it a lot. The dynamic between the main group really shines in this movie and great character development.

3.) Return of the Jedi 8/10 Great end and good everything. Only thing that puzzled me was how Luke got so good so fast. He was not good at Jedi stuff in the last movie but all of a sudden he's basically there. Wish we got some dialogue about his training.

4.) The Force Awakens 7/10 Great welcoming back. I loved this movie and still do. Great dynamic between Poe and Finn, Finn and Rey. Sure it had a lot of similarities to A New Hope but I don't see that as a bad thing. The idea of a rogue stormtrooper turning Jedi was super cool.

5.) Solo 6.5/10 I really like this movie, it's very star wars to me. A space western adventure movie with charismatic characters.

6.) Rogue One 6/10 Absolutely beautiful visuals, last third of the movie really carries it but I can enjoy all of it. Jin Erso isn't to compelling and hard to understand.

7.) Revenge of the sith 6/10 same problems as the other pre-quels but it's fun and has good moments.

8.) The Last Jedi 4.5/10. Canto Bight scene is annoying. We don't need Rose to tell the child soldier about how using children is bad and how war is bad, I think he understands. Luke being the way he is isn't bad to me because he won't be the same as he was when he was a young adult. Only problem I have is we don't see why he fell into this state.

9.) The Rise Of Skywalker 3.5/10 This movie just sucks. Shouldn't have brought back Palpatine, Kylo Ren should've. Finn gets completely sidelined. Rey has no connection to Palps because he has had no interaction or opposition to her in the trilogy, making her a Palatine was dumb. I could go on and on. However it doesn't get last place or second to last because I can still watch this movie and make it through without being bored and be interested in the characters.

10.)Attack of the clones 3.25/10 slightly better because characters show emotion.

11.) Phantom Menace 3/10 sorry prequel fans but I sleep through this movie everytime, Only redeeming trait is the duel of the fates

What's everyone else’s thoughts on the movies? If you disagree tell me why!

26 Comments
2024/05/05
17:01 UTC

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Are Ethan Sacks comics hard to follow?

Not meant to say he's a bad writer or something, it's just that I'm de-TikToking my brain after that app devastating my attention span and reading comprehension so I have no idea if this is a me thing or a him thing. I've read the first like 15 issues of Bounty Hunters and Galaxy's Edge for context.

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2024/05/05
07:38 UTC

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Why does Rukh look so much older?

I know it’s a different animation style but why does rukh look so much older? Like with how much older he looks they very easily could’ve gone with a different nohgri as if they followed legends thrawn has the whole planet enslaved

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2024/05/05
06:59 UTC

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Why didn't the Empire occupied Pabu unlike what they did with Ferrix 13 years later?

Considering the planet held two valuable targets like Omega and the Bad Batch you would think the Empire decided to have regime change by putting a imperial garrison then leave?

This isn't a compliant it just a thought experiment because we know that Utapau and Ferrix were two examples of Planets occupied by the Empire yet Pabu was scottfree?

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2024/05/04
23:39 UTC

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Thanoth vs Thrawn

Who is the smarter character ?

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2024/05/04
22:56 UTC

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In order to celebrated May 4 I wonder who do you all considered the most important characters within the Lore mainly from the films shows, and other mediums throughout Galactic History? Also How would each character from different era in Galactic History be remembered in-universe say 500 ABY?

9 Comments
2024/05/04
22:38 UTC

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