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Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children

It is stated that only peculiars can enter a time loop.

In the final battle, why are there so many normal people at the fair in the 2016 time loop?

5 Comments
2024/11/01
11:32 UTC

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Batman Vs Superman: possible plot hole during warehouse scene

1.Lex kidnaps superman’s mom and orders him to bring bat’s head

2.Supes fights batman and to lex’s surprise they become bros at the end of fight. At this point lex is not aware of this

3.Batman says he will go save martha and visits warehouse

At this point. All the henchman guarding martha were just mercenaries designed to fight batman. The intelligent lex has no way expecting batman there , instead he would have expected superman there and must have given the guards some kryptonite bullets…

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2024/11/01
05:31 UTC

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Inglorious Basterds: Timing of the movie premier

  • Shosanna is informed at the restaurant that Goebbels plans to use her theater for the premier of "Nation's Pride" that very night.
  • Landa then interrogates Shosanna about her theater, including conditional phrasing basically saying "if we decide to use your theater..."
  • Shosanna gives Goebbels a tour of her theater later that day. Afterwards, she and Marcel make a short film, force a guy to develop the film, and edit it.
  • Aldo, Hicox, Stiglitz and crew scope out the rendez-vous location with von Hammersmark from across the street. It is night time.
  • von Hammersmark is shot in the basement shootout but survives. She is taken to a veterinarian who is dressed in pajamas, implying that they had to wake him.
  • von Hammersmark reveals to Aldo that the movie premier has changed venues and the next step for the crew was to fit for tuxedos and attend the premier.
  • Aldo acknowledges that this is a last minute change and asks whether she can still get them into the premier.
  • Meanwhile, Landa investigates the basement shootout aftermath dressed in his SS uniform.
  • Landa, Aldo, the two basterds and van Hammersmark arrive at the premier dressed their red carpet best, von Hammersmark in a cast.

This is a lot to cram into one evening, let alone in less than one day following the meeting at the restaurant. The movie is already asking us to believe that van Hammersmark can get shot in a basement gun fight and get dressed for a movie premier in a matter of hours. But when exactly was this movie premier set to begin? I'm going off of Youtube clips and the plot synopsis on imdb, so maybe I missed something that said what time the premier would begin, but either this premier begins way late, like after midnight, or the veterinarian goes to bed extremely early. Even then, when the theater blows up, we say a guy on a bicycle outside the front entrance (poor guy got a fireball to the face). Who is on a leisurely bike ride in the middle of the night?

13 Comments
2024/10/31
20:44 UTC

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Madagascar 1 Plot Hole

in the first Madagascar movie, was the ship really going to drop Adelie penguins off in a reserve in Africa? Why didn't it stop by Antarctica on their way to Kenya?

11 Comments
2024/10/27
11:22 UTC

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Alien Romulus

Why not just use the androids to mine instead of humans?

11 Comments
2024/10/26
19:16 UTC

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Inception: the whole issue of Cobb being wanted for his wife's murder makes no sense.

First of all it wasn't even a particularly good framing of him. His wife committed suicide jumping out of a window when he was on a building the other side of the street. Forensics could easily show he wasn't in the building...and this looks like it was in a busy city, there were no CCTV cams? Also she says she had herself declared sane by three psychiatrists...uh that looks WAY more suspicious than not seeing a psychiatrist at all. Also his wife's family even believe him. The only reason he wouldn't have to come clean is he'd possibly be discovered using the illegal for civilians dream sharing technology but he's being pretty open about that overseas including doing more illegal activities.

Also how is he able to travel all around the world except the US? He claims extradition between the US and France is a bureaucratic nightmare while in France, but he also goes to Japan, Kenya and Australia...those countries wouldn't trip a red flag over a wanted murderer traveling to them? They're very friendly with the US and have extradition treaties. Okay so maybe he's using a fake ID and passport...why not use that to return to the US?

It's a rather contrived plot point that only exists to give him a motivation to get cleared to see his kids.

36 Comments
2024/10/26
19:00 UTC

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Lost in Space: Dr. Smith is still pregnant with a colony of alien spiders. Everyone knows about it. No one does anything.

15 Comments
2024/10/26
06:35 UTC

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Dr. Strange: MoM

It seems that it would have been easier for 616 Wanda to partner with Dr. Strange and America and locate an alternate Wanda who hates being a mom, and ask that Wanda if she wants to switch places, rather than all that chaos and killing.

31 Comments
2024/10/25
18:32 UTC

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Why didn't the Bricklayer hook up with his partner?

Their chemistry was off the scale.

It's a given that in movies the attractive leads will always hook up whether there's a reason to or not. It's almost law and really annoying.

Yet the one time the two leads actually have chemistry, nothing happens between them?

2 Comments
2024/10/25
07:08 UTC

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Quite place monster's

IDK if anyone explained it yet or said it on here but yeah they can't swim and they'll eventually drown but.... They survived in the vacuum of space so it's not like they need to breathe unless the meteor's had their own atmospheres so they could live long enough to get to earth but ik that water filling their lungs is different than space with nothing but THEY SURVIVED SPACE SO THEY DON'T NEED TO BREATHE!

10 Comments
2024/10/25
04:25 UTC

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The Invisible Man 2020

Idk if this counts as a plot hole or not but I’m putting here anyway bc idk where else to put it.

Cecilia drops her Diazepam bottle when she leaves Adrian in the opening scene, and we don’t see it again until it shows up on her bathroom counter after we learn Adrian is dead. The bottle is covered in blood now. Why does Cecilia never mention this to literally anyone???? They might have been able to test the blood and see it wasn’t hers (idk if it was Adrian’s either but it definitely would’ve shown that it wasn’t Cecilia’s blood).

And if that didn’t work, she literally finds Adrian’s phone in James’ attic, with photos of her sleeping after Adrian’s ‘death’ that she literally could not have taken herself. I know she was panicking at that moment, and Adrian was there watching her, but she still could’ve stuffed the phone in her pocket and left with it since she had enough clarity to keep the knife on her and throw paint on Adrian to see him in the suit. Or even just taken pictures of his phone with her phone!

1 Comment
2024/10/25
03:23 UTC

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Avengers Infinity War/Endgame (yes I know I'm too late) Thanos vs. Biomass

WOG confirmed the snap eradicated half of "all life". ( https://screenrant.com/infinity-war-thanos-snap-animals-plants-killed/ ) I know they were only considering people, but they specifically said animals and plants too. Throw in archaea, fungi, and bacteria and that's a structural problem for all of the remaining planet.

Why didn't everything just physically collapse? Subsidence would be a real problem, the dirt is full of living stuff.

14 Comments
2024/10/24
14:48 UTC

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Beetlejuice Beetlejuice

Astrid Deetz's (Jenna Ortega) father is dead, and Astrid and Lydia have emotional scenes about how Lydia can’t see him, but ghosts are bound to where they died. He died in the Amazon and was not found.
They don’t even know where specifically he died; how is she going to talk to him?

Why was Astrid's dad punished as a civil servant?

See review of Beetlejuice Beetlejuice

3 Comments
2024/10/24
11:17 UTC

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Massive Smile 2 Plothole

Smile 2 has a couple aspects that could be considered plot holes but this to me is its biggest one since it's the cause of the entire film and feels unexplainable. In the opening scene, Joel knew that in order to pass the curse on, you have to murder someone in front of another person.

How did he get this information though? The only person who knew about this rule and lived to do it from the first film was the inmate Robert Talley, and Joel wasn't present within that scene to hear the information. Not only that, but Robert specifically wanted Joel removed from the room since he was a cop. So Robert likely wouldn't of ever spoken to Joel about that rule, seeing how he reacted after Rose had revealed her true intentions and he knew Joel was with Rose (if Joel comes asking him about the curse after Rose, Robert would've likely been too freaked out to talk). Rose also never tells Joel after Joel asks "What did he say"?

So did Joel somehow find out this information on his own? How would he have done that if he didn't speak with Robert about it? It's a specific rule that seems impossible to figure out without A. Witnessing it yourself B. Someone telling you.

11 Comments
2024/10/23
22:18 UTC

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Dr strange multiverse

Dude 1 girl to let Wanda have her kids or 4,000 and risk the multiverse? Just let her have America and the boys. Nobody dies. Shitty movie that way but. ..

13 Comments
2024/10/23
07:20 UTC

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It Chapter 2 (2019)

So the further away you are from Derry, the more their memories became fuzzy and hazy. Bev even forgot Pennywise’s name until they got together for dinner. But how was Stanley able to remember It? Remembering the past so well that he unalived himself. I assumed he lived outside of Derry. I found that to be weird. Thoughts?

8 Comments
2024/10/23
03:14 UTC

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Alien: Romulus

Last week, I watched Alien: Romulus, and I've been giving a bit of a thought about the movie, which had several moments in my opinion, that created some suspension of belief. However, one I see it as an actual plot hole.

Rook (the android that looked like Ash) mentioned that there was only one survivor from the Nostromo. The movie is set roughly 20 years after Alien (Rook gives us this information), which takes place in the year 2122, and about 37 years before Aliens, set in 2179. We also learned from Aliens that Ripley was drifting through space for roughly 60 years, on an unknown and unspecified location, so the company had no way of knowing if Ripley had survived or not.

So how would Rook know there was one survivor from the Nostromo, if they had not found Ripley yet, and even knowing that Ripley had blown out the alien out of the airlock? When the Nostromo crew decided to blow up the ship, was with the intent of killing the alien, the airlock part, only happened on the shuttle pod, AFTER Ripley thought she was safe, and after the Nostromo went big-bada-boom. Whichever data Weyland-Yutani recovered from the Nostromo, had no way of knowing these details.

Best case scenario would be that, Ripley transmitted these details on a message, that was listened by the corporation, but if that was the case, then it would be expected that, the shuttle could also be able to send a beacon with a distress signal, for Weyland-Yutani to be able to retrieve her sooner.

It just doesn't pass the smell test as far as I'm concerned.

24 Comments
2024/10/22
20:46 UTC

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Night of the Living Dead: Upstairs Conundrum

I watched the old classic with my little cousin, a big zombie fan. And after the movie, when I asked what he thought, he brought something up that I never really considered. Something I want to ask y'all about.

Why didn't the body upstairs reanimate? When we see it the first time, we see that it's face is mostly torn away, like it had been attacked and ripped apart. Safe to assume it was one of the undead, or so I'd argue. With this being said, why didn't it reanimate? If it was indeed bit, and thus infected, shouldn't it have reanimated? We never see Ben or anyone else perform a double tap, because it was before the reveal that they were the living dead, so he wouldn't have any reason to. Safe to say that it still had a brain that could function, given that it was just facial tissue missing.

Seriously throws me for a loop, realizing that there could've been a potential ghoul right in the house, with the survivors totally unaware.

13 Comments
2024/10/22
09:57 UTC

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A Quiet Place Echolocation

Monsters have good hearing. Monsters emit sounds. Therefore monsters utilize echolocation. Echolocation works by an animal making a sound and listening to the characteristics of the reflected sound. Therefore it doesn’t matter if you make a sound, the monsters still know where you are and if you move. They cannot process light, but they are still spatially aware, likely even moreso than humans, only limited in range by the sensitivity of their ears.

Edit: also supported by the fact that they are aware of sounds from the same species indicating they understand the sounds that they themselves make supporting the notion that theyd be able to identify their own reflected sounds.

Edit2: The only argument against this is that the creatures are not alien lifeforms but supernatural beings that are not consistent with our physics or theory of evolution

Edit3: ok getting a lot of irrelevant arguments, if someone can tell me exactly how a living thing would be able to know the precise distance a target is away from them only using the sound being emitted from the target, lmk. Bonus points if you explain how the creatures are aware of walls without using hands to guide them. If you can, i concede my argument

Edit4: ive come up with a good counter argument. The creatures know where everyone and everything is, except they dont actually want to kill things, that is not their intent. They only want to kill sound. So if a living thing is in their area and doesn’t produce sound, they have no interest in killing it. Im satisfied. This subreddit sucks.

44 Comments
2024/10/21
23:51 UTC

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Star Trek 2009 unforgivable plot hole

So the main plot point is that Spock, well known for his tardiness, shows up too late to save Romulus from a Supernova with his red matter. So Nero kidnaps Spock and goes back in time to use the red matter to destroy Vulcan.

Why does none of Neros crew suggest. "Hey boss, since we went back in time and all that, we now have the expert, the red matter and the time to save Romulus from being destroyed. So why are we headed towards Vulcan again?"

40 Comments
2024/10/21
05:56 UTC

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Minority Report - Massive Plot Hole that Ruins the Film and Is Not Being Discussed

After watching Minority Report for the first time since my childhood I noticed a major plot hole in the film that seems to get little to no discussion on the previous posts here. There are many plot holes brought up, but they affect only minor parts of the story and can usually be resolved by assuming off camera events or suspending some disbelief. This plot hole is integral to the entire story and cannot be resolved, thus ruining the film for me.

A similar plot hole has been brought up, but it is a flawed criticism that misses the actual glaring problem. This is that the chain of events leading Anderton to Crow's hotel room was set off by him seeing the report from the Precogs, creating a causational loop. This is a bootstrap paradox. Every single time travel movie (information traveling through time in this film) includes some temporal paradoxes. They are not plot holes, and generally make the film more interesting. But, this is not what happens in the film.

The actual plot hole here arises when we learn that Crow did not actually kill Anderton's son, but instead was hired to setup Anderton. This now means that the events of the main storyline do not occur from a bootstrap paradox, but instead were caused by Burgess setting up Anderton. This begs the question:

What possible actions could Director Burgess have taken off screen to setup Anderton for the murder of Crow?

Imagine you are Burgess and want to setup Anderton. You are just going to pay Crow to check into a random hotel with fake evidence of the crimes he committed, then hope that for some reason Anderton will visit that specific hotel room and find him? You cannot say that the precogs caused him to go there, because we now know that the cause of him going there was actually planned by Burgess to set him up. But again, other than putting Crow in that room with evidence, what actions could he have taken for this to occur?

This is not a paradox, but instead a massive plot hole in which the cause of the entire events of the film is not possible. No actions can be taken off screen that would cause the events to occur and we cannot suspend our belief to presume that some unlikely event occurred. I am baffled as to how they were allowed to create this film without resolving this problem...

A problem which could have easily been resolved. Anderton could had found Crow due to a reason that was caused by Burgess. For example, some evidence leading to crow planted at a place that Anderton would find it or Crow reaches out to Anderton wanting to atone for the murder of his son.

89 Comments
2024/10/20
21:47 UTC

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Smile 2

Just watched smile 2, enjoyed it but a major plothole really bothered me. Up until this film it has been established that the demonic entity has been traumatizing and hopping from one person to the next. The first film made it a point to tell the audience the entity has been infecting a singular witness at a time and now in the second film has supposedly had 8 previous hosts.

Smile 2 ends with the demon infecting thousands of people all at once. WHAT. The entire time the demon could have been infecting multiple people at once??? How has this thing not take over entire countries yet. It was established in the film that it can completely warp reality of the host to manipulate them into dying where the demon wants them to die. It could have very easily set any of the previous hosts up to die in front of a mass audience.

It took 9 hosts for it to decide to take over more than one person at a time? It really took me out of the film.

42 Comments
2024/10/20
04:38 UTC

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Toy Story 3

In Toy Story 3, why didn’t the toys just try to escape during daytime? The first time Woody left, it was during daytime. I get that security got more strict after he left, but he came back to rescue the others by hitching a ride on Bonnie’s backpack. Why couldn’t have they done it that way? Escape by jumping in a kindergartener’s backpack or jump in Bonnie’s backpack by going back the way Woody came? And during the daytime when Lotso didn’t have security everywhere and they’re free to be “played with” and try to escape?

I’ve watched this movie a bunch of times and I guess it never really occurred to me until now.

3 Comments
2024/10/19
06:09 UTC

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About Time - why does the dad say to Tim it’s ok to time travel back in time up until the baby is born

This has ALWAYS confused me! Bill Nighy confirms to Tim that he can’t time travel back past the point of conception, but he’s alright to travel within the pregnancy but then once the baby is born he then can’t travel back past the birth date. The birth date of his most recent child essentially becomes the furthest back he can go without risking having different children.

What difference does the conception date and birth date of the child do? The conception makes sense- that very sperm, that very moment = that very baby. But the actual birth isn’t going to change anything? Once conceived that baby is going to be the same baby?

I do understand that you need to watch this film with a pinch of salt and not get caught up in the logistics of the time travel element. It’s more about the growth of the characters etc. but this one thing alwayssss confused me! I feel like they’ve added it in for a couple of reasons:

  1. To show that characters (like Kitkat) need to make their own mistakes, learn from them and grow themselves.

  2. The flaw to bringing other people back in time with you, it complicates everything

  3. To make sense of the ending that Tim cannot simply go back and see his dead father whenever he wants, he can’t live in the past if he wants to build a future and a family.

But I still think that one line just doesn’t make sense. Why does the birth of the child change anything it should only be the date of conception that matters?

9 Comments
2024/10/18
20:49 UTC

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The Beekeeper

The CIA director (Jeremy Irons) is told over the phone that the Beekeeper after his son is retired. Relived he says "That changes everything." When told the new active Beekeeper is on it he says "That guys a maniac."

How does he even know who it is if he was just informed by phone it was someone else?

3 Comments
2024/10/18
19:11 UTC

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Malignant

If the main characters parasitic twin(Gabriel) can do all of that physical stuff like jumps and flips and shit, don't you think Madison would feel it in the morning? And don't you think she would wonder she has all of the scars?

3 Comments
2024/10/18
01:25 UTC

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Trap

Is anything in the film not a plot hole or contrivance?

9 Comments
2024/10/16
20:25 UTC

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Deadpool/Wolverine

If the Wolverine in this film is supposed to be from a different time line. Why do we see the same images of the Wolverine from our timeline when Cassandra Nova puts her fingers in his head?

5 Comments
2024/10/14
17:53 UTC

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Why Didn't the Avengers Just Go Back for the Time Stone?

I know Endgame has been out for a while, but I still haven't gotten a satisfactory answer to why the avengers didn't just go back to New York, get the time stone, use the time stone to reverse time on the infinity stones only. I've seen stuff where people claim they couldn't do this because Tony didn't want to risk losing his family, but that wouldn't be a problem because Strange when using the stone for the first time used a targeted reversal of time on an apple. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that, but if I'm not then can someone explain to me why they couldn't just do that?

95 Comments
2024/10/13
23:39 UTC

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