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Petioles is a positive community for those interested in responsible consumption of Cannabis. Discussions include everything from tolerance breaks, to personal feelings and cravings.

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Petioles strive to facilitate a healthy relationship with cannabis. Our community is intended to be a support group. We encourage constructive discussion detailing means to promote and sustain positive habits, such as reduction and control of consumption. All methods are welcome.


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Tolerance Break?

Start by observing the amount of cannabis you consume and consider taking notes.

Note a minimum break of 48h is suggested.

When returning from a break we recommend consuming less during the first few sessions and continuing with the Petiole Plan bellow.

Whatā€™s a kSafe?

Many Petioles are successfully using a kSafe. The safe automatically releases when your set time has expired. Delayed Gratification.

What's a Petiole?

A stalk connecting a leaf to a Tree's stem.

Whatā€™s the Petiole Plan?

A simple way to reduce tolerance or withdrawals.

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Frequency

Wait for as long as you can:

  • BEFORE your first session of the day;
  • BETWEEN multiple sessions; and/or
  • AFTER a session before going to bed.

Size

  • The first session of the day should be the SMALLEST session of the day;
  • Less is More!

When

  • Avoid consuming daily or when bored.

  • Only indulge after completing set goals/tasks or on special occasions;


Quit

We are here for those who enjoy the positive aspects of consumption, but strive for better self control. If you believe quitting cannabis is best for you, see r/leaves.

Rules

  • All ages are welcome

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  • About irresponsible acts under the influence, such as driving;

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16 days without any usage, wondering what made me fall into the habit so hard

I'm clinically diagnosed with ADHD and Autism and I started using cannabis regularly for the first time less than a year ago, I'm constantly surrounded by people that use cannabis as a coping method for their conditions, but not once did I ever feel like getting high helped with any of mine. The best thing about it for me was the way music sounded and how food tastes, but honestly I can still experience feelings pretty close to that even without smoking or taking anything. I know I'm not gonna cut out usage entirely just because it's nice to feel different or hang out with friends on it occasionally, but I'm really hopeful that I'm gonna be more responsible with it after this break.

Before I started abstaining, I was smoking for a few nights and then cutting it out for a week at a time, so I think I weaned myself off of it slightly before this break. The biggest thing I've noticed is my chest doesn't feel as tight (I'm asthmatic and vaping was absolutely destroying my lungs when my tolerance was super high) and I think whenever I continue I'm going to try to stick to edibles even though they're pretty pricy and hard to come by in my country.

I've started dreaming again which is really nice, I finally feel well rested after 8 hours of sleep because I'm actually going into REM cycles now. The money I've been saving has been nice too. I really hope my tolerance goes back to a place that my wallet can handle.

0 Comments
2024/11/10
10:28 UTC

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I feel like a missed out a lot on my teenage hood.

Finally made it to break free from my 36 month routine consecutively getting high and I am currently now a week sober. (135 hours; almost a week)

I started at 15; and Iā€™m 18 nowā€¦

And man did I miss a lotā€¦.

Is there anyway of overcoming this feeling of remorse and regret? Because I feel like I forgot who I was before and all this love , pride, is being washed over with regret.

Everything is all finally coming back and I donā€™t know how to feel; being absent from myself for 30-36 months.

1 Comment
2024/11/10
06:54 UTC

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Just started again

Hi yall, I quit smoking in June after experiencing dr/dp after a green out. I haven't smoked or touched anything regarding Marijuana until tonight. I deal with celiac and it's pain and constant nausea, I am also highly emetoohobic and I have severe severe anxiety from these three combined.

I got fed up with it tonight and took a few hits and had a 5mg edible

I have brain fog due to my celiac whic I believe is what was contributing to the dr/dp as well

I need tips on how to smoke in moderation as I've already ordered a 5g cart (I buy in bulk more bang for your buck imho) and 2 full spectrum CBD carts. I have alot of school fees to pay in the coming months so I decided to get this out of the way. I also experienced psychosis with this as well, but im going to contribute that to smoking 5+ grams a week šŸ« šŸ« šŸ« 

I understand what my limits are but I just need some tips

Tysm in advance

1 Comment
2024/11/10
03:44 UTC

8

Relapsing after four days: thoughts.

My therapist and I discussed the idea of sitting with my feelings and comparing my experiences when Iā€™m stoned versus sober. Over the past four days of staying sober, Iā€™ve felt more energetic, happier, more focused, and less anxious.

Tonight, I thought, ā€œI have a night alone, why not try a joint?ā€ So I did. But now Iā€™m reminded that weed often leads me to worst-case scenarios and heightens my anxiety. I feel a bit down, and while these feelings might have already been there, theyā€™re definitely amplified now.

The rest of my cannabis is going back in my Ksafe for a few more days. Thanks for being here and supporting me on this tapering journey.

0 Comments
2024/11/10
03:10 UTC

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Pls help

Iā€™m going through the hardest time I have ever had to and my mental health is at an all time low so I decided I was going to take a break (smoking every couple hours for a couple years). I havenā€™t smoked in a week and I was doing really well and starting to not feel bad but I had knee surgery on Thursday and having no friends to talk to or anyone who really cares ab me has been making me much more down despite the progress I believe I had made. I have nothing to do with no one to talk to for at least 6 weeks and Iā€™m so active itā€™s driving me insane not doing anything. I do fine when I donā€™t smoke I donā€™t get any urges but right now I really want to and am thinking if I can do it only on weekends it wouldnā€™t be too bad. Could anyone give me some advice on what I should do Iā€™m pretty lost.

7 Comments
2024/11/09
22:42 UTC

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Ways to curb cravings?

This time of year is hard for me for a lot of reasons and Iā€™ve noticed my usage going back up again, like a lot, and the shame of being a ā€œloser potheadā€ has been getting to me.

Earlier this year I took a tolerance break in the midst of bad mental health stuff (the dependency level Iā€™m at now isnā€™t as bad, but itā€™s on the same path) and a breakup, and noticed that when I took my Xanax prescription for my anxiety it damped the impulse to smoke. Still felt like shit and had withdrawal symptoms (mostly irritation), but didnā€™t feel the need to smoke so much.

I donā€™t want to have to completely rely on another drug to deal with cravings, what are small things you did to distract yourself? Preferably something along the lines of snapping a rubber band on your wrist (something unobtrusive and easy to fit into my daily existence), and not so much big things ā€œexercise every dayā€ (having to restructure my schedule and also doing reps sucks).

13 Comments
2024/11/09
21:54 UTC

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There's No Magic When It's Normal (Long Post)

Just a thought that crossed my mind when I was taking a walk last night. I'm sure we all feel that weed used to be "special", or "magic" to some extent. I mean, that was the whole appeal until it became a coping mechanism.

Walking down a scenic little path at a park near my house, sober, I was hit with the memory of being at the same spot on a beautiful, moonlit night - just like it was last night - except a few months ago I was stood there, desperately sucking on two different carts and feeling nothing. Nothing.

. . . because being high was normal at the time. My tolerance was so high and the habit so ingrained that being sober is the altered state of consciousness, relatively.

Incredible how weed can numb you. Merely doing the exact same thing sober!; stopped, standing there listening to music and staring at the moon, felt special.

"How backwards," I think to myself. "Weed should make things special!" But in actuality it feels so rejuvenating to be enjoying things to a notable extent without weed. Are my dopamine systems healing? I was appreciating the moment instead of chasing the dragon, which enabled me to enjoy said moment.

For added context, the pattern of my last 7-8 years has been: smoke every day for most of a year; take a few months off, then try and fail to moderate; and start the cycle anew.

I smoked last weekend after a 2 month break and for the first time, it was utterly "meh". I could take it or leave it. Wasn't terrible, but I also don't feel very excited to do it again.

It's kind of hitting me that 2 months isn't much time in the grand scheme of things.

Even with a lower tolerance, the experience is fresh in my mind from smoking daily so regularly for so long, if that makes sense. It is still normal, relative to the larger scale of my life and portion of it that I have been smoking.

In order for it to feel special to the degree that is used to, I need to progressively distance myself from the drug. Obvious as it may sound, I think it cannot ever have that special, magic feeling when it is normal because you are desensitized to it -- regardless of tolerance.

On prior breaks I would think about it obsessively, feverishly. Now it's on the back of my mind, and it's easier to focus on things I actually need and/or want to do than ever.

I'm finding I no longer have to force myself to do things as much. At long last, after years of anhedonia, I'm finding enjoyment in the pursuit of hobbies and goals. It's a foreign, yet relieving feeling for the mounting desire to face the music and work through my shit finally outweigh my desire to shy away from life and self-medicate.

The draw of the addiction feels dead. I am acutely, painfully aware that being in the throes of it are misery, and the value of it - the magic - can only be attained the less it is in my life.

Less is more.

Right now, once or twice a week is my limit. Hopefully will get to once or twice a month -- and maybe if I ever get to the point where it's a few times a year, it will feel special again.

5 Comments
2024/11/09
16:56 UTC

4

Waves of pins and needles close to sleep time

After consuming heavily I decided to stop cold turkey and take a break. When my brain is ready for sleep I feel these waves of pins and needles start from the top of my head which move in a wave down my head, neck, torso and arms. I get maybe 6 waves which dissipate in intensity until they stop. My assumption is that my brain is releasing melatonin ready for sleep, which wasnā€™t happening while I was heavily consuming cannabis even before bed. This tends to only last a number of days until my body is back to normal.

I use the term ā€œpins and needlesā€ which is true, but itā€™s not painful just a little unexpected initially.

Anyone have similar experiences or some explanation?

0 Comments
2024/11/09
10:11 UTC

7

Lockbox - 1 year feedback

I bought a K-safe lockbox a little over a year ago, and have been using it to try to get to weekend use, and evening use.

It worked a charm in the beginning, and I posted on here asking about reasons why people didn't use a lockbox, and they said they broke the lockbox, it was too easy to get the next score, and unpredictable panic attacks.

However I found a fourth reason why lockboxes don't work - not using it in the first place.

Whilst it was great when I did use it, I still had issues. Weekend use - I ended up using it on weekends only maybe 20% of the time, and the rest I just didn't use the lockbox and would extend usage into the week. Evening only use - again, I found I just wouldn't use it in the evenings only.

Even with weekend use, I found it took me a couple of days to get into the hang of things, and would only start hitting a flow on Wednesday, and Thursdays and Fridays were my best days.

Maybe if I had been more disciplined with setting the lockbox, then things might have been better, but even then with weekend use, I could only manage 2-3 days of decent productivity. Much less than that with daily use, even if evenings only.

So in summary, a lockbox is an effective measure IF it's used. I just couldn't use it effectively. However still much much better than anything else I'd tried.

Edit: Didn't want to post this here as it's a moderation community, but I've decided moderation has never worked for me, and the only reasonable solution is for me to stop. It's been three days and the future looks much brigher than it did a few days ago.

2 Comments
2024/11/09
08:48 UTC

1

Tolerance

does smoking less or every other day lower tolerance?

1 Comment
2024/11/09
04:40 UTC

17

Smoked my last joint today.

Heyo, I've been smoking daily from sun up to sun down for the past 7 or 8 years now. While I have and still do enjoy it, the smoking has been getting in my way more than helping so the past week I've been slowly consuming less each day. Today I smoked the last of what I have with plans to give myself a needed break.

Feeling a little anxious about not smoking but overall good, so I just wanted to put this out into the universe and into a space where folks are understanding and chill. Send some positive vibes my way if you have some to spare.

Was recommended to share with you all here, looks like it's the right place.

Thanks for reading šŸ˜

1 Comment
2024/11/09
03:37 UTC

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How many of you went from being a daily smoker to consuming 1-2x a week?

Hi everyone! Iā€™m someone who used to use cannabis daily and throughout the day. However, I worked through more of my personal challenges and didnā€™t feel the need to be stoned 24/7. I took a break from cannabis for a few weeks after that and it felt natural. First time I took a T break with zero cravings.

It had been a few weeks since I consumed cannabis, so I started wondering if I could use cannabis 1-2x a week. Instead of using it when Iā€™m sad, I want to use it as a way to spice up the end of the work week. Cook a nice meal, watch a funny TV show, and just enjoy all the hard work I put into the week.

I had cannabis earlier in the evening and it went very well. I had a great time! I donā€™t have the desire to do it again (at least for the moment).

I have off of work every Monday and my work week ends Friday afternoon (I work Tuesday-Friday essentially), so I was thinking that if I want to partake, I can on that Friday after work and Monday evenings. I do not have to partake if I do not feel up to it or do not think it is a good idea for my emotional state at the time. Otherwise, i plan to be sober the rest of the time. And, for the first time in my life, I actually feel very comfortable with this plan. Time will tell whether it sticks, but I wonā€™t know until I genuinely try.

I was wondering if any one of you had been daily smokers and successfully reduced your consumption to 1-2x a week. I want to know if it is realistically possible to achieve this goal by seeing other people live it and share their experience. TIA for your responses!

25 Comments
2024/11/09
01:43 UTC

5

At day 7 - debating whether to go longer?

Today I'm 7 days sober (allergic to alcohol, weed has been my only thing). I made it to the gym every day this week, got a lot done at work, feel like my mind is clearer, and am eating healthy. But it's Friday and I know if I eat an edible today (only do edibles, no smoking) it'll be great. It always is after a few days off like this. I should have had more intention before taking this break, but I kind of just wanted to see how long I could go and am proud of myself for making it to a week.

Given that this week has been good just in terms of my life and showing up, I should go longer, right?

11 Comments
2024/11/08
19:19 UTC

1

Break of 2 months or more?

I've only taken 3-4 week breaks in the last like... 8 years? But now I'm considering a longer one.

Has anyone taken both <1 month and >2 month breaks and can speak on any differences you notice?

7 Comments
2024/11/08
18:22 UTC

2

Stomach issues while trying to take a T break

Iā€™ve been smoking pretty consistently for about a year and pretty much 24/7 since June this year I need to take a T break/ change my smoking habits Iā€™m really only trying to stop for 10~ days or longer if Iā€™m doing good towards the end but Iā€™ve been having a lot of trouble with eating and just general nausea when Iā€™m not smoking so Iā€™ve been avoiding taking a break but Iā€™ve been hitting my pen like 6 times and barely feeling anything so i definitely need a break. Does anyone have any tips to reduce the nausea and make eating easier? Iā€™m assuming itā€™ll go away after a few days of not smoking but it still sucks

3 Comments
2024/11/08
16:58 UTC

21

Weed and emotional blindness

Does anyone else feel like weed may have affected your emotions? I feel like since I've been a daily smoker, about 4 years now, I've had a lot more difficulty in experiencing my emotions and acting on them. However also in that time my best friend committed suicide and I still feel guilty over it, so that could be a factor as well. I know I'll probably be tokd to see a therapist but that is such a terrifying prospect to me (one of the only emotions I can definitively and easily identify and reflect on is fear/anxiety- it sucks), I can hardly open up to my friends and family, and when I saw one as a teenager I went to maybe 3 sessions before I quit. I just want to know if anyone else has had a similar experience to me.

21 Comments
2024/11/08
16:56 UTC

7

Food is impossible

Holy crap. This is the part that always drags me back. I cook food, then can only eat like 2 bites. So then I can't work out, because I'm not getting enough food. Yesterday I still had enough residual weed in me. Today it starts.

12 Comments
2024/11/08
16:44 UTC

9

THC and infidelity

I broke up with my girlfriend a week ago for cheating on me.

There were other reasons the relationship should of ended (her toxic behaviour) beyond just the cheating.

I have already thought it through a lot when sober and have recognized the reasons for ending it.

These have not fully set in, and I'm still processing it for sure but not considering reconciliation.

THC helps me temporarily mask the pain and boost my self-respect/"I cant be treated like that" mentality.

It also helps me to stay productive, be social and not be so low energy during these times.

They say it takes time to heal, so if thats the case will moderate use of THC (low dose edibles) be a good tool here? If it's gonna take time anyway then I might as well help myself right..

It's not making me spiral or get anxiety.

How have people dealt with a breakup / cheating using THC?

19 Comments
2024/11/08
14:09 UTC

0

Explain to me like I'm five - medical cannabis

Whats the difference? I've been referred to a cannabis clinic by my family doctor, and I'm excited and nervous. Does medical cannabis have THC? Is it addictive? What can I expect?

Edit: Iā€™ve been addicted to weed in the past, thatā€™s why I was asking if medicinal was the same deal.

19 Comments
2024/11/08
13:58 UTC

4

Really going through it, Iā€™m 12 hours in because I (23F) slept. I donā€™t know what to do with myself now though

These past couple of months have been very hard to quit. I would rather be smoking while doing my activities. But the aftermath? I genuinely donā€™t have any satisfaction with life. I was with a friend the other day and I couldnā€™t even enjoy myself. I feel incredibly incredibly disassociated with everything and everyone. I have anxiety and depression, and Iā€™m aware it worsen conditions, but right now I just donā€™t know what to do. I want to go back to how I was before I even touched weed.

13 Comments
2024/11/08
13:16 UTC

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Medical user curious about thc withdrawal timeline after reducing but not completely ceasing consumption.

I've been a daily smoker for 10 years. The last several years I've averaged smoking between 7-10 bowls or joints throughout each day, every few hours from immediately waking up to going to sleep. Often I would wake up and smoke in the middle of the night to fall back asleep.

I started using weed because it's the only thing I've found that helps me with a rare medical disorder called achalasia; it still helps me immensely with this disorder so I don't want to quit, just reduce my usage.

For the past two weeks I've stopped smoking and switching to dry herb vaping with a Pax. I'm on day 5 of abstaining from all THC until night time and then vaping only two bowls of the Pax in the evening - a pretty big reduction in my overall consumption.

My question is this - how long will I continue to feel like shit during the daytime? I know I'm slowly shedding years of backed up thc in my system because these withdrawal symptoms absolutely suck. And when I finally vape at night I don't even feel remotely high, it just takes the withdrawal edge off.

Is this something that will take weeks to sort out of my system? My long term plan is to stick with this schedule and be a night time only user.

Any insight is helpful. I know we're all on different journeys here even though we may be very parallel to each other. Thank you for taking the time to read my post!

4 Comments
2024/11/08
12:32 UTC

1

Not easy to find type 2

Posted a while back about my anxiety after a t-break and some people mentioned that type 2 weed with CBD would help with anxiety while still giving me a buzz. None of my local dispensaries had any, saying that growers aren't really growing it because people prefer the higher THC flower strains. My only option was to buy in larger quantities as buying just 1 pre-roll had no CBD options. So my take was, they just want people to get addicted to the shit.

3 Comments
2024/11/08
11:17 UTC

5

Affecting my long term memory?

I have had occasional encounters with marijuana for years, but have only been a constant, daily user for about a year now. Recently, I have been finding myself getting a lot of anxiety from thinking it's effecting my memory. Sometimes I find it a little difficult to recall certain details about certain events that took place years ago, certain stages in my life, and I am very worried that I am losing these memories. Memories with loved ones, friends, exes, just people in your life that you would want to be able to retain memories of. At 22 years old I worry how well I will be remembering these things when I am much older. How many stories will I have to tell to my kids? You could describe it as brain fog, even when I am not high at the moment, it's like its lingering. Would giving marijuana a break improve this? Is it reversible? Should I give it up all together to prevent it from getting worse?

2 Comments
2024/11/08
11:15 UTC

3

Psychosis + CBD (Help)

Hello eveyone, so long story short, I sufffered from a psychosis 2 years due to thc use. I relapsed 1 year and half ago without any thc use and doctors diagnosticated me with a mental issue, not that severe but that requires a monthly medication.

Today I still struggle to stop my substance use and find CBD as a derivative. But the issue is that I can feel it does not suit me well, I am kind of lost when smoking from times to times, head in clouds.

I no longer enjoy doing things that make me happy or it does not come naturally so I rest in my room when having free time insteaf of being active as I use to do when I first stop smoking, 2 years ago, before the relapse of my illness.

I just want to know what are you tricks to completely stop cbd/thc as I am kind of obsess with it. In fact, I started smoking when I was 17 and was fascinated about everything that revolved around weed. Even though I achieved to stop smoking the last 2 years, I have cravings as I smoked cbd for the past 2 weeks and I can feel it does not suit me.. Plus the huge medication that has some side effects.

2 Comments
2024/11/08
06:19 UTC

16

Why canā€™t I handle being high??

Whenever I get high and enter and social environment, I lose the ability to interact with others and make a complete idiot of myself. My jaw tightens up, I start speaking quietly and I lose all social skills (ex. speaking out of turn, lack of awareness of surroundings, etc.) It increases my insecurity so much and makes me not want to be around other people at all.

Because of this, I prefer to only get high by myself or with 1-2 other people. When I get high, all I want to do is observe my own thoughts and just chill by myself and do my own thing.

Itā€™s just annoying because my friends say they become MORE social when theyā€™re high, which I donā€™t understand at all.

When I smoke with friends, they seem to act completely normal, like it isnā€™t affecting them as much as it is me. Itā€™s not like theyā€™re addicts or anything, they just seem to chill out more when theyā€™re high.

The only way Iā€™ve been able to overcome it is by getting crossed, but obviously that isnā€™t very sustainable or practical for when I wanna smoke with others. Donā€™t get me wrong, I LOVE getting high alone, but it would be nice to how to handle myself around others. Any advice??

12 Comments
2024/11/08
04:51 UTC

1

Re-introducing

So before the break Iā€™m currently on, I was high throughout the day.

Iā€™d either start the day by packing the portable dry herb vape and take a hit or two at anywhere between 160Ā°C-180Ā°C

Or

Iā€™d hit the live resin pen once

After each method, Iā€™d meditate and/or stretch, getting into the body, and ready for the day.

Iā€™d take another hit or two mid day as I would up the temperature to 200Ā°C or so and later in the evening, Iā€™d finish the pack at a higher temperature setting (210Ā°C-220Ā°C) I began the day with.

If itā€™s the live resin pen, Iā€™d just take another hit mid day and again in the evening.

I was using for about 14yrs before this break Iā€™ve been on for 8mths and 1 day now.

A part of me felt like I was abusing it and when I look at how I was consuming, a part of me sees it as ā€˜itā€™s not THAT badā€™.

From this background knowledge of usage, how much would yā€™all recommend if I wanted to introduce the herb back into my life?

1 Comment
2024/11/08
04:09 UTC

31

I want to stop, I NEED to stop

It feels like the past few years have been one giant disassociation. It feels like the things that are happening in my life, aren't actually happening. I'm just high all the time. Within seconds of waking up I'm hitting the bong.

I can't do this anymore.

I feel like I've missed so much, so many feelings and emotions, because I choose to numb everything out.

Sometimes during the day, I get a brief "glimpse" of what it feels like the be switched on and in the moment, but then I get home and get high all over again and instantly regret it. I wish I wasn't like this.

I smoke medical 9%THC/12% CBD so my tolerance isn't that high, but I smoke about 10gs a week - sometimes 15g if it's a hard week.

I don't know wtf I'm doing anymore. I feel so lost. I have no family support, and due to the nature of my work I cannot talk to anyone about this.

I have tried the app, I've got a K Safe. But I don't fucking use any of it. I feel so ashamed, I wish I didn't have such a dependency on this fucking plant.

12 Comments
2024/11/08
01:39 UTC

4

Cravings

Something interesting I thought about today is even when Iā€™m feeling the positives of breaks/sobriety, I still crave to smoke and this will sound so dumb but I specifically miss the feeling of taking big hits from carts, the ones that make you cough really hard. Not the cough but just the momentary distraction I guess. Before when my tolerance was high I would still hit my pen for that reason. Can anyone relate? šŸ˜“

5 Comments
2024/11/07
23:17 UTC

10

Weed/thc/marijuana episodes of speech impairment

Hello I have been consuming oil based thc for several months. 4 days ago I started to get episodes of speech impairment where my speech would be interrupted for a split second. People around me hardly notice but I feel as if im blacking out.

Anyone experienced this before?

14 Comments
2024/11/07
21:08 UTC

2

Time to get a job

I hate being sober. I graduate from school in a month and some change and I'm starting to look to be exploited for my productivity. So hopefully can get a job and have a smoke before the 25th of December

2 Comments
2024/11/07
18:06 UTC

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