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Petioles is a positive community for those interested in responsible consumption of Cannabis. Discussions include everything from tolerance breaks, to personal feelings and cravings.

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We are a positive community for those interested in responsible consumption.

Petioles strive to facilitate a healthy relationship with cannabis. Our community is intended to be a support group. We encourage constructive discussion detailing means to promote and sustain positive habits, such as reduction and control of consumption. All methods are welcome.


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FAQ

Tolerance Break?

Start by observing the amount of cannabis you consume and consider taking notes.

Note a minimum break of 48h is suggested.

When returning from a break we recommend consuming less during the first few sessions and continuing with the Petiole Plan bellow.

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Many Petioles are successfully using a kSafe. The safe automatically releases when your set time has expired. Delayed Gratification.

What's a Petiole?

A stalk connecting a leaf to a Tree's stem.

Whatā€™s the Petiole Plan?

A simple way to reduce tolerance or withdrawals.

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Frequency

Wait for as long as you can:

  • BEFORE your first session of the day;
  • BETWEEN multiple sessions; and/or
  • AFTER a session before going to bed.

Size

  • The first session of the day should be the SMALLEST session of the day;
  • Less is More!

When

  • Avoid consuming daily or when bored.

  • Only indulge after completing set goals/tasks or on special occasions;


Quit

We are here for those who enjoy the positive aspects of consumption, but strive for better self control. If you believe quitting cannabis is best for you, see r/leaves.

Rules

  • All ages are welcome

Please do not post and/or comment:

  • About irresponsible acts under the influence, such as driving;

  • Disrespectful or discriminatory remarks; and

  • About passing employment drug tests.

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Donā€™t want to ask this on r/leaves, but does ā€œItā€™s not weed, itā€™s youā€ mean keep smoking?

Iā€™m being a little obnoxious lol but seriously. A lot of people say this and I get it mostly. But Iā€™m literally and genuinely asking someone to explain how someone can use this advice when trying to figure out or establish their relationship with Mary Jane. If weed has no power and it just ā€œexposesā€ whatā€™s already there, why do so many people try or want to limit their consumption?

0 Comments
2024/12/04
13:37 UTC

3

3 days in!

Iā€™m just celebrating that Iā€™m 3 days sober!

2 Comments
2024/12/05
05:06 UTC

66

Lol

5 Comments
2024/12/05
02:41 UTC

5

A failed attempt at a T-Break

Long time daily consumer here. I started a 90-day break but could last only 45-days.

Due to some stupid reason, I ended up with stash at my home and couldn't resist.

There's also a lot happening in life and I recently quit smoking ciggerates also. It's been 3 weeks since I stopped smoking ciggerates. But I ended up consuming pot daily for the last 5 days.

Any suggestions on what I can try to get to a phase where I consume only occasionally?

2 Comments
2024/12/05
02:07 UTC

5

Gotta change my ways. Now.

Iā€™ve been a cannabis user for about 13 years now, mainly smoking and vaping it. Recently, Iā€™ve noticed that inhaling it for so long has really taken a toll on my throat and lungs. I was really in denial about my cannabis overuse but I realize that now.

I mainly use cannabis to manage my pain with my diseases. My main health concern is my stage 4 endometriosis and cannabis really helps me mentally and physically with that horrible pain.

I really want to change my habits and be healthier. There is nothing more important than our health and excessively smoking/vaping weed has really hurt me over time. I want to lean more towards using occasional edibles vs hitting my Venty and PuffCo multiple times a day.

I know Iā€™ve got this. šŸ’Ŗ

4 Comments
2024/12/05
01:21 UTC

3

Go for moderate vape use or stop all together?

Iā€™ve been smoking weed, flower and vape, daily for 5 years. Iā€™ve taken a couple breaks but still am smoking now. Recently, an accident happened to me and it was not weed related. Out camping with friends, rock climbing while sober, then a fall and breaking both of my feet.

The past couple weeks Iā€™ve wanted to only be smoking at night after getting a lot of work done during the day. That failed and I continued to smoking multiple times a day and Iā€™m disappointed about that. Iā€™ve gotten rid of rest of the weed I had but now the withdrawal is starting to kick in. I have more reasons for use now. The pain Iā€™m in from my injuries and the psychological trauma the injury makes me need comfort from weed again. Walking outside to smoke wonā€™t be easy anymore using crutches and I canā€™t smoke inside. Blowing a vape out the window is easier. But if Iā€™m on bed rest with broken feet, will getting a vape make me do it all day again? I really do and donā€™t want time off but I need support right now and donā€™t know what to do

6 Comments
2024/12/04
21:53 UTC

2

Tried

Just took a fat bong rip and wow, I missed this feeling.

0 Comments
2024/12/04
21:50 UTC

3

Does CBD work?

Hi! Im getting sober after getting high everyday for the past few months so I can get a new job and move up in the world a little. However, the whole reason I started getting high everyday is due to severe anxiety. Eventually Iā€™d like to start getting high again, but I want to do it responsibly and maybe only on the weekends to destress from the week rather than daily. In the meantime, because it could be months until I get a new job, I was wondering if anyone has tried pure CBD products? I would love to find a way to help keep my anxiety at bay without getting high, but being anxious all the time makes it much harder for me to stay sober, and I really donā€™t want to jeopardize a new job because I couldnā€™t stop getting high.

4 Comments
2024/12/04
21:26 UTC

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Started my break too late

Daily heavy user (maybe like an oz a week) for years

Going to Japan tomorrow

Started my break like 6ish days ago

Its rough sauce now lmfao

Can't tell if withdrawl is getting better or worse

I probably shouldn't just call it and smoke right now but fuuu

I shouldn't smoke right?

9 Comments
2024/12/04
20:54 UTC

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Even if you fail, you still get benefits

I was trying to do a week tbreak and failed last weekend on day 4. Now I am on day 2 this week and it's a lot easier. So the more days you take off, the easier it is to take off.

This is changing my strategy for sure. I think I am going to attempt to have 2 or 3 days no weed during the week so I can develop a new healthier pattern. So much easier during the work week so that's my starting point.

4 Comments
2024/12/04
20:04 UTC

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CBD Vape or Cold Turkey

Iā€™ve been struggling with a THC dependency since middle school and have been wanting to quit for so long. I was able to quit once before for 4 months but decided to try it again which led to another 8 months of addiction. Iā€™m still in high school and I know my addiction has to stop. I recently went on a trip with my girlfriend and her family which allowed me to quit my habitual smoking for a few days. Today is day 6 no weed and Iā€™m feeling pretty good. Havenā€™t had any intense or overwhelming withdrawal symptoms. Iā€™m getting slight cravings at night when Iā€™m bored and Iā€™m temped to eat these last edibles I have. I plan on quitting all together but donā€™t want to impulsively relapse. Should I get a CBD vape to help cravings or keep going cold turkey. Would vaping CBD keep my addiction going? Would consuming CBD negatively affect my brain and performance like THC does? Any advice helps.

3 Comments
2024/12/04
18:02 UTC

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One week down. I donā€™t know why I didnā€™t do this earlier.

I was heavily addicted to carts. Iā€™d take a blinker every hit and smoke like 1/3 or 1/2 of the cart a day. It was like that for about 8 months and caused me so much anxiety and depression. I feel free from it now and it just feels great Tbh

4 Comments
2024/12/04
17:48 UTC

5

Phantom high after 9 months?

I quit smoking (carts) at the end of February, and now it's December, so already been 9 months since I stopped. Still I felt today a "phantom high", it didn't last long, just about minute or something. I've had these same kind of things earlier, first time 6 months ago and the second time 4 months ago. And now. What is this, will it stop, or how do I make it stop? I am pretty anxious and almost dissociate from this.

16 Comments
2024/12/04
16:53 UTC

2

On moderation, tolerance and brain fog

On sunday 11/15 I smoked again after a four month break. The experience was beyond belief and eye-opening, just like the first time.

I just did it that one day and stopped until next weekend, because I am afraid of relapsing to daily use. On that next weekend I smoked from saturday to sunday. The thing is that this second time the effect wasn't as near as good as the first time a week ago. Furthermore, on weekdays after using I experienced braing fog and memory loss.

I used both times the same weed and two joints max. Is one joint after four months enough to loose all tolerance? Is smoking only on weekends enough to generate brain fog?

2 Comments
2024/12/04
15:42 UTC

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Is an average of 10mg edibles per day ā€˜moderateā€™ use?

My 2024 New Yearā€™s resolution was to consume cannabis <50% of days, which I accomplished and found a good balance. That goal was for easy tracking, but didnā€™t account for how much I consumed on the days I used (and felt like a waste if I only used like 5mg one day). Now Iā€™ve switched to only edibles so tracking is easy, and Iā€™m considering a yearly total allotment of 3,650 mg (10mg/day). That way I moderate quantity as well as frequency. Thoughts on that quantity?

40 Comments
2024/12/04
15:25 UTC

7

Need to quit for surgery

I'm getting surgery on February 25 and my surgeon told me I can't smoke anything for 2 months leading up to the procedure or else it'll mess with the anesthesia. I've smoked every day for like 3 years now and know I'm addicted. I struggle with bipolar depression and most days weed is the only thing that helps with that. I'm worried about the effect it'll have on my mental health when I stop and was hoping for any advice on how to combat that. I also think some part of it is like stimming, it's something to do with my hands and breathing. When I quit cigs for the same reason a little while ago the hardest part was losing the physical motion of smoking, the actual habit. What's something I could maybe do instead?

15 Comments
2024/12/04
12:23 UTC

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Use reduction causing problemsā€¦ looking for input

Hello everyone!

Due to a new schedule, starting 4 days ago, I began to have much larger gaps in between smoking, as well as a reduction in the overall amount of the substance consumed. On average, thereā€™s been an additional 7 hours added between smoking start times. Additionally, Iā€™m now consuming 58% less weed than normal (weekday average) & 69% less when compared to a weekend average. *About halfway through day 3 of this change, I developed unbearably sweaty palms of my hands (to the point where it leaves a visible residue on surfaces), and a significant increase in normally controlled anxiety. These symptoms have maintained for the majority of yesterday and today, with the exception of no sweaty palms while actively high. My thought is that if I maintain this new schedule consistently on my days off, then my body will readjust and thus the symptoms will subsideā€¦? I know this isnā€™t quitting, or even an intentional tolerance break, but is it even enough of a difference to warrant these couple of notable, recurring changes? Itā€™s been extremely bothersome, distracting, and has me overthinking literally everything. Iā€™d appreciate any insight. Thank you for reading!

0 Comments
2024/12/03
22:33 UTC

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Is moderation possible given my history?

This is a bit of a long one, stay with me

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My relationship with cannabis has been rocky from the start. I was introduced to it by carts off a friend, I still don't know if they were legit or not.. I was paying $50 a gram for distillate.. and this is California prices so there's a good chance I wasn't vaping boof, just low quality stuff.

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I was using weed to cope with a lot of things, and I was pretty suicidal at the time too. I eventually got sent away to a boarding school for a while since I was failing basically everything and didn't have a care in the world.

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I don't think the problem was weed at the time.. I was getting bad grades and being rebellious before I started anything. It was certainly a substance issue + other things though, as my parents had to lock up the alcohol and at one point I was snorting my dads adderall. My thought process back then was if I feel shitty enough I'll just kill myself so it's just forcing myself to get into a corner and pull the trigger.

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I was sober for a full year and a half there, and stayed sober for a while longer. This ended when I found some edibles in my sisters room. One thing led to another and I ordered some edibles online and before long I was taking them every once in a while after a big bike ride or when I felt like it.

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This was safe though, as I wasn't neglecting anything since you can't hide an edible high so it forced me to take it at night, where I could never get caught and it wouldn't affect my everyday life. The only problem was it'd fuck my sleep, since best case I could start getting high at 9, and sleep at 2 or 3 once it wore off, which is pretty late for a normal 8 hours of sleep that I'm used to.

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There were times where I was caught off guard and needed to do something I shouldn't have been doing high, but for the most part it was fine, and I never got caught doing this. After a while I bought some flower, and one day I got caught with it.

Parents made it a big deal since it was the first time since they sent me away that they'd caught me.. but shit happens. They made it a big deal and within a few weeks life was back to normal. I eventually transitioned to carts, which is where I think things started to go downhill.

Carts are too easy, and deliver a very "intoxicating" high. The high from a dab/joint is different from a cart, since they're delivering mostly thc only, with the exception of a few other things if you pay extra. Even with live resin carts, they're a lot more potent than a live resin dab. To me, they also don't last as long. Once that high feeling is over, the high is done and you're back to normal.

I didn't realize this before, and only do now that I have an e-rig to take dabs out of. The feeling of a small dab is a lot less intoxicating and a lot more medical than carts. It's something that I can see myself taking at the end of a long ride, or to celebrate getting a good grade on a test.

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The problem is.. I haven't been using it like this. The last month has been hell for the whole family. My dad fell off his bike, and suffered 9 broken ribs, including head trauma and more. This was a lot for me since I saw all this happen. I saw him almost die and I didn't know what else to do besides medicate myself. I don't have a solid support group, so I did what I thought was best.

I increased my tolerance a lot, and started taking large doses of edibles too, just to numb myself, always teetering the line of being high and acting functional.

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I want to use cannabis responsibly.. but it looks like my brain can't. I love my e-rig since it's finally an affordable way to moderately use cannabis-and a safe way too. It doesn't give me that same feeling (live resin) carts do, which I love.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to moderate my usage? Or do you suggest I stop entirely given my history? I already am on a tolerance break for the rest of the year just to sort myself out mentally.

0 Comments
2024/12/04
03:56 UTC

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Taking a t-break for an upcoming procedure requiring monitored anesthesia (not full general) -- feeling a general lack of motivation/concentration -- is that a side effect, or more likely my general mood this week?

I'm on day 5 of cold turkey after daily consumption of a single load of ~13% flower in my Mighty (sometimes with a bit of a boost from my DynaVap since my previous 1/8th was 23% and the 13% was feeling kind of weak). First few nights I had a lot of weird dreams, nothing last night, but today I found it nearly impossible to concentrate. Is this likely a withdrawal symptom, or is it more likely to be something else?

Even if the t-break wasn't necessary for the anesthesia I like to take a break now and then anyhow, a few times per year for a week or so, to keep myself from getting too "hooked" -- interestingly it's easier to give up than coffee, even as a daily user.

Duration: Since shortly after I created this account (thus the username that was true at the time), so about 8 years.

Health Status: Very healthy, the procedure's just putting a camera up my butt since I'm old (hey, I shouldn't be paying for this -- I should start an OnlyFans and charge the doctor for the privilege!)

Mental Status: Generally happy, normal stresses

Diet: Vegetarian, few processed foods

2 Comments
2024/12/04
04:02 UTC

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Just got a K safe and set it to max time

Just got a K safe from Amazon after discovering that I could get the access code to my previous safe pretty much whenever I wanted thru support so that box became useless. After I realized that I have only been sober a few days out the past week or so and just need to return back to reality a bit. Reminded me of how I felt like using constantly because I would want to get high when im sober and then I would want to be sober when im high this is when I know I gotta start cutting back.

The k safe has a max of 10 days which is the time im going to set it to. Im going to use Full spec CBD tincture over the break and cbd flower, take vitamins, work out, and take NAC. It is finals time for me as well so I feel like I can focus on my work a lot better now the decision has been made for me that I get high. Also, this will give me something to just work at and be doing all day.

Just smoked my last bowl everything is in the safe did a week break a few weeks ago so im pushing for a longer break wish me luck!

6 Comments
2024/12/04
03:37 UTC

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Resources for Partners?

Hey all. Long time lurker, first time poster. First off, everyone's efforts here are commendable. Thank you all.

I got into weed at the suggestion of an ex. It was great for a while, until all the usual things; feeling dependent, spending a lot of time and money smoking, and a tolerance so high it never feels like it even does anything but MAYBE calm me down.

But my ex really wanted me to cut back or quit. I tried. I would get to a point where it was hard and I would cave or move a goalpost. My ex would try to hide the weed, but I would search and find it. It understandably became another contentious point in the relationship. I don't think my partner should be my substance warden, but more of an encouraging support.

Cut to now, where I am in a much healthier and happier relationship. I would like to cut back, nothing has changed here. But my partner would like to help. I would love for them to help, but historically in my experience, it's not played out well and I'm afraid of repeating mistakes.

Anyone have good resources I can share with my partner so they can help me and hopefully not cause a sore spot in the relationship? Thanks everyone!

4 Comments
2024/12/04
02:01 UTC

6

i feel so trapped

been smoking daily for a long time now. iā€™ve tried so many times now to quit smoking carts and i just canā€™t. i want to at least ween off from using so much, because i can barely feel the highs and the brain fog is unreal. i have no option to ā€˜lessenā€™ my doses, because i have to use carts, i cant use flower due to where i live. my problem is how reliant iā€™ve gotten on smoking and the fact i have no desire to actually go through the quitting process, so i just wallow in self pity while hitting my cart over and over again. i am wasting so much money smoking through all these dispos and i feel so ashamed in the fact that i do nothing but get high and ridicule myself over it. how do i quit, or simply get to the point im not smoking three to four times a day? please help.

4 Comments
2024/12/04
00:19 UTC

4

Going to Japan in 3 weeks

Hi all.

Need help / advice on how to smooth transition to no weed for the trip. Plan to quit cold turkey on Thursday night (last time before bed that night) and just cruise through the end of the trip till Iā€™m back. I smoke a lot tbh, high like half of the day every day so certainly need some time to adjust before the trip as to not ruin the trip. Any ideas/advice is appreciated!!

16 Comments
2024/12/03
21:35 UTC

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got busted by cops in an illegal country, long break ahead. pls give me your best tips for not feeling like absolute garbage while not smoking...

title says it. i got busted in an illegal country directly after a deal by some civilian cops who were patrolling the corner. no serious consequences, basically just a warning and if i get caught again, it will have more serious repercussions.

i can't get caught again for the sake of my future, and right now im terrified of street deals. thing is, im a daily smoker for 2ish years now. weed helps me control my anger (bpd) and i can actually get shit done while im stoned, smoking one after a hard day regenerates enough energy for me that i can do dishes, laundry etc etc... now i can't even have that.

im planning to take a break, but i need some help. how long does it take for the withdrawals to pass? when did you start feeling better after quitting/having a long break? was there anything you did that helped with the process? all tips highly appreciated, i feel like garbage

9 Comments
2024/12/03
21:30 UTC

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Daily, regular user for 10 years. On day 2 of no smoke.

Iā€™m not sure if this is the place to post but I just need to clear my head.

Iā€™ve been smoking weed for over 10 years. It started with dry herb vaping, but the last ~6 years has been primarily THC vapes with the occasional joint on the golf course. I turn 31 soon, and I would really like to not be relying on weed so much.

The convenience of vapes has been terrible for me. Being able to take a quick hit without any effort had made it very easy to fall into a daily routine of anywhere from 20-50 hits per day. Sunday, I told myself that I need to make a change.

The last two days have been rough, but to be honest I was already in a mental slump. That last couple months I feel like Iā€™ve been spreading myself too thin, and Iā€™ve been smoking more heavily as a result. I know that giving up smoking, at least for a while, is the right decision. Iā€™m happy with it.

Itā€™s just so loud in my head. I used to smoke to quiet things down, or at least it felt that way. I rarely ever have any mental clarity, instead just having this running soundtrack in my brain of tasks to accomplish, personal questions, negative thoughts, and today ā€œTake on Meā€ was on in my head for most of the afternoon.

All in all, I know Iā€™m headed in the right direction. Butā€¦Iā€™m also scared. Itā€™s scary doing something new, and throwing away my ā€œlifelineā€ has introduced new stress.

If any of you have been in a similar spot, or just have something encouraging to say, I could sure use it. Thanks

T

14 Comments
2024/12/03
21:29 UTC

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Daily smoker since Iā€™m 15, first day without it. How do I feel less like shit?

Iā€™ve been diagnosed with chronic depression and anxiety. I now have a prescription of antidepressants and sleeping pills. I figured I should stop smoking weed while taking those pills and didnā€™t smoke since yesterday for the first time in 6 years. But the thing is, I feel like absolute shit.

Iā€™m constantly sweating even when Iā€™m cold. I feel jittery like if I just drank 5 coffees but barely have the motivation to do anything. I can barely eat 2-3 bites of something before feeling full even though Iā€™m clearly weak from not eating enough. The mental fog also makes me unable to focus on any task for a long time.

Can I get some advice on how to get through this? Is there any way to calm down the withdrawal or do I just have to power through and accept the fact that Iā€™m gonna feel like shit for a couple weeks?

47 Comments
2024/12/03
19:51 UTC

21

update: edibles helped

a couple weeks ago i made a post about switching to edibles only and attempting to only use responsibly. and it worked!!! the urge is still there sometimes, but i can swat it off. what helps is that my gummies always knock me on my ass and for way longer than smoking/vape. this way, i have to really plan out when i eat some, and not just stay mildly high ALL day. letā€™s see if i can stick to it for longer!

4 Comments
2024/12/03
19:43 UTC

5

How to replace this feeling weed gives me

Okay so I want to smoke less, but I really enjoy weed for one reason (among others): When I smoke and listen to music by myself, I can immerse myself in my thoughts and imagine much more and kind of ā€œliveā€ scenarios in my head. I really like it to visualise where hard work can get me, and what direction I want to take. Also lets me imagine myself being a pro footballer or something fun every once in a while.

So here is my problem; I want to smoke less but listening to music sober doesnā€™t immerse me in the same way. I always have thoughts in my head (e.g. need to do the laundry later) and a tendency to get bored very quick (i.e. I can listen to music in my bed for 15 mins but then I cba but while smoking it could be as long as I want). I have been looking at ADHD medication to help me concentrate during study but havenā€™t gone to a GP yet.

Is there any way to replicate this without weed? It doesnā€™t have to be the full deal because Iā€™m sure there isnā€™t a perfect solution like that but something where I can go to my spot, listen to my music and chill in the same way without getting bored or distracted.

This is quite an important thing for me because on those days (e.g. Mondays) where no mates are doing anything after Uni its a nice way to reward myself after working hard.

I hope this doesnā€™t come across as weird or confusing, I just donā€™t know how to explain it in any other way.

16 Comments
2024/12/03
19:06 UTC

260

do you think this will work?šŸ˜­

(This is the bag where I keep all my weed stuff)

71 Comments
2024/12/03
17:10 UTC

8

Venting

This shit sucks so much. Iā€™ve been able to quit nicotine and Kratom (12-16gpd), but weed has such a grip on me it feels like Iā€™m faking it.

I use a dynavap and I would consider my usage moderate. For about a year and a half I only smoked .1-.2g per day, but this year Aug-Oct I was at .5-.7g per day. Iā€™ve been using daily for ~2 years.

Since the start of November Iā€™ve been trying to taper and this past week Iā€™ve made the switch to edibles (Iā€™m taking ~60mg a day). But it seems so difficult to lower my dose anymore. I get headaches, I canā€™t get past 4 hours of sleep, Iā€™m angry, Itā€™s hard to eat, my acne is worse, I get cold sweats, and the restlessness makes me feel like Iā€™m going crazy.

I feel like Iā€™m doing things right too. Im eating healthy, Iā€™m working out, I get in bed at the same time every night. Itā€™s so frustrating that these things that are supposed to be making it better donā€™t feel like theyā€™re making it any better.

Itā€™s not all bad though. Iā€™m definitely way less anxious, have less negative thoughts, more productive, clearer mind, and my sense of smell has gotten better. Itā€™s just that the restlessness, lack of sleep, and headaches drive me insane sometimes.

Iā€™m gonna keep going but I just needed to put this all down somewhere. I know with time things will get better.

11 Comments
2024/12/03
11:59 UTC

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