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A simple way to reduce tolerance or withdrawals.
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Hi guys.
So I've been smoking basically daily for the past 1 or 2 years, and finally at a place where I feel my attempt at a tolerance break is working out. One of the worst things that happened bc of my overuse was that edibles no longer affected me, I was forced to smoke to get high, which isn't my preferred method.
I wanted to know if anyone else has experienced this before? Did edibles start getting you high after a long enough tolerance break? How long was it? I was in hospital so I was off weed for a good 3 weeks but a whole goodie bag of edibles still didn't hit me. I'm thinking of a 6-12 month break.
PS I'm not talking about edibles just having a weak effect on you. I'm talking about it having no effect on you at all. I basically felt a slight cigarette high but am super sober on edibles.
Anyway, thanks <3
I have trouble sleeping and if I'm stressed I don't sleep at all. I smoke to sleep and would like to cut back, but I'm not entirely sure how I'm gonna get to sleep at a decent time without it.
I have some chronic medical issues that contribute to my insomnia, but sometimes I do wonder if I quit for long enough, will it improve the quality of my sleep? Does weed affect sleep quality?
I'm also already on muscle relaxers and arthritis meds. They don't help me sleep, but I don't want any more pills. And I've hear taking melatonin disrupts the bodies own production of it so imma avoid that too...
Just a gentle reminder and maybe confirmation for some people struggling. Hope it helps.
Hi, so I have been smoking consistently for past 3/4years and even the fact of not smoking for a day is a bit scary for me. (please donāt judge I do it myself already). But this week since I was really sick I didnt smoke much maybe 2-3puffs of pen each day (out of addiction & attachment issues to my pen at this point lol) and now after a few days that I smoked, I am hating this severe feeling of heaviness & confusion that my brain & chest is feeling. Itās not a enjoyable high and I really need some help/feedback from anyone whoās been in similar situation and if theyāve used that to quit for good somehow?! I am really trying to cut back on it as it is affecting the quality of my life more than I thought it would.
Thank you buds šš»
Iāve been on a T-Break for about 3 weeks now and for the first 2 weeks I slept fine. However, now all the sudden Iāve been sleeping super light and waking up several times per night. Iām guessing this is related to the T-break just wanted to know what other people thought.
Iāve been struggling with moderation and my relationship with weed for the past few years. I started at 16 10th grade and am now 19.
I think through trails I have gotten to know myself and this is what Iāve learned about weed.
I used to smoke daily and take brakes occasionally. This was not the way daily it fucks me up.
Completely without it I am fine if not better then fine Iām about to list the pros and cons but I feel as if no weed forever is a little extreme because I still enjoy weed as a treat.
Pros of sober: no anger, patience,
EXTREMELY motivated,
always hungry (gaining weight is very important to me),
I always want to work out and work on not just meat head excersizes I enjoy but also ones I struggle and need to improve on,
I feel a way better connection to god,
Iām almost in complete control of my emotions,
I can do things I donāt want to,
I keep with my regimens of Spanish, guitar, and skin care
Iām SOOOO SOCIAL I love taking to people and fucking with them usually Iām scared to say weird stuff when stoned because I canāt guage if itās funny weird or weird weird,
And many more small things like higher testosterone, no depression, no porn which I struggled with on weed, and better sleep
Cons
Boring
Burn out
Canāt relax
Donāt want to do bad stuff
Iām trying my hardest to rationalize weed rn but thereās not rlly to many cons I can really name
Pros of weed (for about 1-3 weeks before Iām numb)
Games are fun asf
Porn is fucking pog
I love eating food (mostly junk food that I canāt stand sober),
Sleep like a rock
Enjoy the ritual of taking š and smoking a bong and just feeling like a flower
Feel euphoria the first few times
Lazy
I donāt know weed is great at this point I feel like I come back to it out of habit lol
Cons
Poor appetite
Numb after 3 weeks (high becomes new normal)
Feel like loser
Acne
Lazy
Forgetful
Quick to anger (i think getting mad is stupid but when high or feening I have to watch my temperament which I feel very bad about)
Unmotivated
Lower test
Only do excersized I like (for example heavy verticals presses/pulls like bench, squat and pull ups)
I kinda lose my inner monologue and I stop thinking of things the right way and get negative
I have HIGH HIGHS but LOW LOWS which I kinda enjoy because my family are addicts lol
And a lot more stupid little things
I enjoy weed but also hate it a little I used to have a WAY worse relationship with it but as Iāve somewhat matured Iāve realized itās a plant and a tool.
Iāve achieved moderation through getting like a cart and 14g of flower then Iāll fly through it in like a 3-4 week period and I enjoy it at the beginning which is great but then I start to feel like shit which is around when I run out so then I go from āugh Iām a loser to super motivated again and feeling greatā
This kinda makes me feel like an addict though because if Iām happy and doing more sober why not just stay sober?
The only thing rn keeping me from sober forever is that itās extremely nostalgic and In the future Iām gonna have to stop forever due to my nursing degree and I donāt wanna be a kid forever.
I should quit right this second because Iāve been a month of it and Iām just waiting till Iām done with finals to get some then go crazy during winter break then go back to being sober and motivated for school.
This makes me feel as if Iām taking my motivation and ability to quit for granted because Iām kinda putting myself through hell because I enjoy this drug.
Idk this isnāt even really a post I need help on I just really needed to put this down on paper because part of me is like BRO I GOT THE REST OF MY LIFE TO BE SOBER AND HARD WORKING. And the other half is like is it worth it or should I stay sober forever.
I think Iām most likely gonna bum a half full cart from my friend and get like an oz for Christmas and enjoy before next semester because I canāt smoke forever.
I like smoking weed itās a simple pleasure and after I quit cold turkey it usually takes me about 7-10 days to convert back to completely normal but idk.
What do yall think am I like an addict or what? Feel free to ask questions none of my friends rn smoke weed so I need an outlet lol
I've quit alcohol and it's been almost over a week since I've vowed to ditch that poison.
I said i'd do it in waves to myself and flower had to go as-well to test myself and gain back mental clarity , issue is.
I use flower for everything, exercise , wake and bake. sleep , chill and watch shows for way too fking long like a potato.
I've ran thru alot of money just being a "lazy-stoner"it just does not work for me as an everyday thing. I may use in the future when I'm confident I won't delve deeper down the rabbit hole.
How would you go from being baked all day about 1/2 oz a week to nothing?
The only main hobby I really have is gym , and I've recently started reading manga/anime. I really want to pass my driving finally and secure another job aswell as a side hustle to re-establish myself again as I feel like I've lost myself this past year.
Day 18 without weed, noticed my resting HR has been increasing from mid-high 50s to high 60s low 70s. I basically exercise every day, I donāt smoke or drink, I eat a lot of fruit and vegetables. Is this just my body recalibrating while the THC et al. leaves my system?
Last year I quit weed cold turkey after 2 years of daily use and experienced terrible withdrawals for 1-2 months. The worst being anxiety and depression. It was awful.
I quit for 4 months and felt a lot better, but started smoking again thinking I could moderate my use, but failed. This time it was everyday for 7 months.
I quit 2 days ago and am experiencing those withdrawal symptoms again, feeling very depressed.
My question is has CBD helped anyone with anxiety/depression symptoms after quitting weed? I picked up some full spectrum CBD flower last night and it definitely helped me sleep but experienced no anxiety or depression relief so was quite disappointed.
Iām about 2 weeks into a T break but iāve never really had a problem with weed except for it being hard to sleep on the first night, one of the lucky few who can kick things quite easily. My only reason for quitting was that my tolerance was too high and a joint would only get me high for an hour or so. Going to do a month for this break but although I quit easily I fall into the habit of overuse much much easier. I know itās down to the person but I really just want to keep my tolerance down so that every joint smacks how it used to, once every 3 days or weekends only?
Tried tapering off, cutting down, evenings only, it doesnāt work for me. Going all in. Please send positive vibes!
How can I quit seriouslyā¦my fingers are literally shaking and Iāve only been one day cleanā¦I know what some of my triggers areā¦should I spam pushups whenever I start feining or go on a run? I hear such withdrawal symptoms go away after like a week, I swear to God Iāll never look back. Iām just so tired you donāt understandā¦and itās lowkey starting to impact my grades for Uni.
Currently on day 51 no weed Iām thinking 3 months (90-100 days) would be good then smoking for a weekend then taking another 3 month break so I donāt fall back into the habit of smoking all day every day but Iām curious for any input you all might have.
peace + love
This is more of a vent, maybe looking to soothe the feeling of being so alone and miserable. I(24F) have been using cannabis daily for the past 7 years. Iāve always done good academically, but after high school I want straight into working as a barista. And I fucking have since. I ended up at a better place recently where Iām able to work full time as a head waiter but itās still nowhere near where I want to be. Iāve had no idea what I want to do with my life until last year. Iāve had to realize that my childhood sucks, that people have treated me bad and that Iāve let them. Iāve realized that I am not a person I like. I question if I manipulate my surroundings, if Iām an evil person with a masterplan. I catch myself in white lies all the time, never think before I speak, and then forget what the fuck I said because my memory is so bad from smoking. I keep on smoking every evening and playing the same stupid videogame because itās a habit. Iām so priviledged, living in my own big apartment, working at a place I love, have a wonderful boyfriend(who unfortunately smokes more than me), plans to become a veterinarian(HOPEULLY if I fix everything with the SATs I can get in the term starting 2026). Still I canāt kick this fucking habit, and I feel myself getting dumber and more paranoid every day. Itās not legal where I live and Iāve gotten caught two times but gotten away because Iāve manipulated the cops. I hate myself so much and Iām so ashamed of who I am but I canāt stop myself from doing the same thing every single evening. How the fuck do you just get your head out of your ass.
Theyāre gonna evaluate me for C-PTSD, Autism, ADHD and BPD. Iāve struggled with mental illness since I was a child. But I donāt think I should feel sorry for myself at all or have an apologetic view on how Iām ruining myself. Maybe itās the weed that got me here. My mental illness has only gotten worse since starting. But the relief when lighting a joint is something I canāt do without.
Daily smoker here for the past 4-5 years, with some week or two long breaks here and there, but they were pretty rare. I fully recognize how weed has affected me mentally and socially and want to fix those issues, but Iām not sure I want to 100% quit either.
Iām able to get through the work week sober pretty easily, Iād even say Iām starting to enjoy it, going to the gym more and dedicating more time to hobbies.
But the weekends are where I struggle. On Friday and Saturday nights I wanna smoke and play video games with my friends or watch sports/wrestling/etc, well, because itās the weekend.
Does anyone have experience/suggestions with starting weekends only or is it better to just go completely sober for a month and then go back to smoking?
Like a lot of us here, Iāve tried and failed over and over to moderate and Iām hoping that I can manage to do it this time with some rules. I donāt really smoke all that much, but I have been dry vaping in my dynavap every day. . . Then Iāll take a break for a few weeks, go through somewhat of a withdrawal, start back up for a day or two, then within a few weeks Iām back to daily again. I smoke less than .5 g a day (in the evenings)
This time Iāve decided to mix it with CBD roughly 50/50. Now, on days when Iām not āallowedā to smoke I just use my dynavap and have plain CBD.
Iām not sure if it will work any different this time, or if Iām just doomed to have to quit. The thing is, itās not that itās ruining my life; I mean I have a job, I do my chores. . . I donāt go out much with friends either way. Iām married so we tend to just hang out at home.
One thing that really got into my head was that a few weeks ago when I was in one of my daily streaks, I was invited to go hang out with my niece and their family, which was an all day 1p-10pm event and with tons of her friends, which makes me a bit nervous since I have social anxiety. When I realized I wouldnāt be able to have anything that night, it made me feel a bit nervous. Not really sure why because I donāt usually get high around people I donāt know anyway. But, that was sort of a wake-up for me. . . I have GAD so I tend to overthink everything.
I just want to be able to have some fun here and there. . . Itās tough cuz my husband smokes every night. It doesnāt seem to affect him like it does me. So, itās too easy to just pick it up.
My husband thinks that Iām over thinking it, since itās not harming my life really. He says it helps his ADHD and itās better than smoking cigarettes so I donāt want to disagree.
But, the thing is I do notice that Iām more in my head when Iām regularly consuming the high THC weed (from medical dispensary) and when I do smoke regularly and have a episode of anxiety, quitting at the same time I have 2-3 days of panic attacks is always rough. When I look back at my journal from before I smoked weed, I was using nicotine, and I often would blame that for my panic attacks. . . He thinks that Iām sort of just finding something to blame.
TLDR: At what point do you decide that moderating isnāt possible for you and just quit forever. Or, is there an easier way to do that so that I stick to it? Iāve read that if you have to set up too many rules, that means that you have a problem.
I'm realizing that I use cannabis too much and I want to tone it down before it becomes an issue. How much of the day do you spend high and how frequently do you partake? Thanks :)
Iāve been a heavy marijuana smoker since I was about 17 and Iām 25 now. Iām considering quitting even tho I have a medical card and a valid excuse to consume it daily. Itās not that I feel unmotivated or lazy when I smoke because thatās not the case , unless itās an indica on a boring weekend. I just abuse it when I do smoke , Iāll smoke right when I get home from work or right when I get home from the gym and then all evening up until bed. I do know it affects me negatively because sometimes throughout the day Iām just so down and so negative and donāt want to be around people so thatās a mental problem Iām completely aware of. I just want to know if itās really affecting my health in a negative way and if itāll be so detrimental years from now that I should stop now ? Is the damage already too far done or irreversible to where it wouldnāt make much of a difference in me quitting or is it worth a chance ?
I canāt consume or keep cannabis in my home currently, basically, the only way I can is if Iām out of town. Which I donāt love, but has been very helpful with breaking me out of needing to consume pretty much every day and struggling to slow it down or stop for longer than like 3 days.
Anyway, now that itās more of a rare occasion, Iāve dropped the weed-induced constant anxiety that I was so used to I actually didnāt even realize the weed was the reason for it. Now, when Iāve gotten high and the anxiety comes rushing in, itās very easy to recognize that Iām just high, and then the anxiety goes away or I just kind of laugh at it. It doesnāt affect me. Whereas before I was having my life pretty negatively impacted by it and was stuck in a cycle of thinking I was anxious and needed weed to calm down, which just fueled more anxiety etc. etc.
Sure, itās too bad I canāt just pop a gummy or go enjoy a j in my backyard anymore. But itās been kind of a blessing in disguise to have a built-in guardrail. And it was a welcome lifestyle change.
As far as how to consume with moderation using only your own self-control? I donāt have a great track record with that š . But I can say definitely that occasional use is so much better than a lifestyle of getting high every day. Even if youāre more or less functional high like I could be. There are so many negative effects that become normalized and because weed is such a comfort, itās easy to forget itās whatās actually causing a lot of problems.
Hey guys, im 18 years old and started smoking occasionally at 13 years. I kept it in moderation for the past 4 years, smoking 3-4 times a month. However, since the start of 2024, i gradually fell into an addiction and have been smoking weed every day since march. I already started half-hearted attempts of quitting that lasted 3-4 days, but always failed because the sole purpose of those attempts was me ,,proving to myselfā that i was not addicted (i was/am).
The negative side effects have gotten worse tho, and they significantly damage my life and mental health, which is why i decided to finally put an end to this. Im on day 2 now. My goal is being able to occasionally smoke (for example on special occasions/certain social situations) without relapsing back to daily use. My strategy is to quit weed for 1 month, and then try to casually go back to the usage pattern i previously described. Do you think this is a good tactic? And if it isnt, can you recommend me another one or is my goal just unrealistic. Thank you very much!
PS: sorry for my english, its not my mother tongue
I just quit weed about a month ago, mindful Iāve quitter once before and managed to go sober for a year so I had a pretty good understanding of what I was going to feel and go through.
Everything has been going according to plan but nearing day 30 more symptoms have come up, mainly insomnia and hot flashes.
Iām not sure if the hot flashes are here because of my sleep depravation state or if symptoms can just come up even after a month of going through then steadily. (Iām otherwise feeling fine now except for those two issues)
And Iām just looking for similar experiences to maybe ease my anxiety a little
Itās just embarrassing. I wish weed didnāt cause withdrawal symptoms š. Its ok if there isnāt anything to be done I just thought Id ask.
Hey all! I've been a chronic user for a few years now, mainly in the evenings, and I usually end up using carts for how easy they are to access.
I keep seeing posts about how awful these are in terms of trying to reduce your consumption and even just in terms of quality of the high. I'd want to have something still convenient like a dry herb vape, but I was wondering what y'all's experiences have been between the two. Any pros or cons, and would you recommend trying to switch over? I'd like to feel a little less dopey throughout my days if possible.
Hi M22, I basically started regularly smoking weed once/twice per week (weekends) since this July (had a few weeks of T break) and Iāve been enjoying using it. Something that has sometimes been in my mind while using it is the fear of getting addicted and the health risks that it could cause. This is the reason why Iām looking for an āobjectivelyā good moderate use. I do want to continue using it recreationally and in moderation, thatās why I want to start setting these limits on myself. So whatās your opinion on this? Is using it once/twice per week the right amount or too much? Should I change to eddies instead of hitting the pen?
I have smoked for the last decade with minor breaks here and there (like when Iām looking for a job).
I was recently told by my GP as well as the therapist that they suspected I have ADHD. Looking back on my life a lot of things make sense and I agree with their informal diagnosis. I can now see that THC makes my ADHD symptoms way worse (CONSTANT desire to smoke and being an absolute zombie when if/when I donāt.)
So Iāve been trying to cut back to the point of only smoking once in a blue moon however, Iām finding it really hard to do since smoking provides that dopamine hit that the ADHD brain craves so much. (Like I can stop / white knuckle it for a while if I know I have to be clean for a job search, but it does not take long to fall back into old habits and then I am back to square one.)
So I was wondering if anyone here has been able to successfully manage their ADHD-THC relationship? How did you do it? Whatās your story?
At the moment, I am unsure if I want to get a formal diagnosis. Besides the uncertainty of the cost (thanks US healthcare) I heard that the ADHD medicine makes it really hard to sleep, so if possible Iām going to try manage this with natural / non-pharmaceutical methods - so any additional pointers on how to do that would be extremely helpful and appreciated. TIA!
Ok. So I used to use edible weed according to the way my grandmantaught me. She would consider herself a witch let's say. So. Wee I'd a stunning plant. The day of Saturn is Saturday. Now according to your planetary map you would use the herbs according to the map and days and the phases of the moon. Eg . A person is in a saturnian sign, aquarius or Capricorn, when the moon is in aquarius or Capricorn, around once a month for 2 to 3 days, then this person could go ahead and use weed if the moon was in Saturn or in a saturnian sign. Since English is not my mitger tongue please be patient. Whoever wants I could try answering or explaining better
Edit. I am not looking to buy or find. I am just sharing the way they would use it.
so iām trying to cut back to once a week (currently at like 3 times a day). this isnāt my first time cutting back as back in april/may i quit cold turkey and it was AWFUL. about a month ago i was able to cut back by locking it away until 8:00, and honestly i felt fine my stomach issues went away.
recently ive had stuff happen in my life that made me go back and now iām upset that i ever did, so i decided to cut back to how i was doing. hereās my question. i really hated going through the withdrawal with what i think was chs, but can using once a day before bed really help me? i thought it worked in the past but idk i just need advice i donāt wanna do cold turkey but if i must i will
Here's all the research I could find on N-Acetyl Cysteine being used to reduce and stop cannabis. There's a section at the end where I've linked multiple reddit posts praising or recommending it's use specifically for cannabis reduction or cessation.
A systematic review by Sharma et al. (2022) indicates that NAC can reduce cravings and promote abstinence among cannabis users. This is supported by studies showing reduced reported use in NAC groups compared to placebo groups.
Gray et al. (2012) conducted a double-blind trial showing that NAC significantly reduced cannabis use among adolescents. However, sustained abstinence beyond the treatment period remains challenging.
Studies, including one by Tomko et al. (2020), highlight NAC's influence on both depressive symptoms and cannabis use, showing that individuals with lower depressive symptoms experience more consistent reductions in cannabis use.
McClure et al. (2014) found that NAC might help reduce alcohol use among cannabis-dependent individuals, suggesting NAC's broader impact on substance use behavior.
Several trials, including Berk et al. (2015), report that NAC is generally well-tolerated, with minimal adverse effects, making it a viable adjunctive therapy.
Some findings, such as those in the study by Gray et al. (2017), suggest limited long-term efficacy, as some patients show improvements due to placebo or external factors.
Research by Kalivas and Kalivas (2016) examined how NAC affects glutamate homeostasis in the brain, showing it may help normalize glutamate transmission disrupted by chronic cannabis use. Asevedo et al. (2014) demonstrated NAC's antioxidant properties may protect against cannabis-induced oxidative stress.
Squeglia et al. (2018) focused specifically on young adults aged 18-25, finding:
Roten et al. (2013) compared different dosing regimens:
Davidson et al. (2019) conducted a 6-month follow-up study showing:
Wright et al. (2020) investigated NAC combined with:
Morgan et al. (2017) identified factors associated with better NAC response:
Research by Zhang et al. (2018) used fMRI to show:
Coleman et al. (2021) investigated genetic variants affecting NAC response:
Henderson et al. (2020) evaluated economic aspects:
Rodriguez et al. (2019) focused on safety in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Petioles/comments/1f05o3u/nacetylcysteine_is_a_godsend_for_withdrawal/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Petioles/comments/v72jrq/nac_saved_me/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Petioles/comments/11wykdu/out_of_desperation_i_started_taking_nac_this/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Petioles/comments/ppo373/holy_cow_you_guys_nac_nacetyl_cysteine_a_light_at/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/1aiv9tz/nac_is_changing_my_life/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/eukotl/nac_helped_me_queet_weed/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/18l7w3g/nac_nacetyl_cysteine_has_been_an_absolute_game/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/y8duud/nac_is_incredible_for_me_and_its_a_crime_that/
The last couple of links aren't cannabis related but helpful additional info on positive effects.
From my research it can decrease zinc and copper, so keep an eye out for that (maybe supplement with zinc and copper to keep all bases covered).
Hi all, today I have been 30 days sober after spending the majority of the last 4 years stoned. I was mostly self medicating for adhd and trying to escape things in my life beyond my control. I didn't think I could do it, and this group helped me so much to realize that I wasn't alone and that I just needed to start that first day and take it a day at a time. It's been easier than I thought and while I don't think I will swear off weed forever, it's great to know I'm in control again, to dream, and feel less anxious. Thanks to everyone in this group, and if you're struggling, you can do it too!