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Petioles is a positive community for those interested in responsible consumption of Cannabis. Discussions include everything from tolerance breaks, to personal feelings and cravings.

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We are a positive community for those interested in responsible consumption.

Petioles strive to facilitate a healthy relationship with cannabis. Our community is intended to be a support group. We encourage constructive discussion detailing means to promote and sustain positive habits, such as reduction and control of consumption. All methods are welcome.


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FAQ

Tolerance Break?

Start by observing the amount of cannabis you consume and consider taking notes.

Note a minimum break of 48h is suggested.

When returning from a break we recommend consuming less during the first few sessions and continuing with the Petiole Plan bellow.

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Many Petioles are successfully using a kSafe. The safe automatically releases when your set time has expired. Delayed Gratification.

What's a Petiole?

A stalk connecting a leaf to a Tree's stem.

Whatā€™s the Petiole Plan?

A simple way to reduce tolerance or withdrawals.

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Frequency

Wait for as long as you can:

  • BEFORE your first session of the day;
  • BETWEEN multiple sessions; and/or
  • AFTER a session before going to bed.

Size

  • The first session of the day should be the SMALLEST session of the day;
  • Less is More!

When

  • Avoid consuming daily or when bored.

  • Only indulge after completing set goals/tasks or on special occasions;


Quit

We are here for those who enjoy the positive aspects of consumption, but strive for better self control. If you believe quitting cannabis is best for you, see r/leaves.

Rules

  • All ages are welcome

Please do not post and/or comment:

  • About irresponsible acts under the influence, such as driving;

  • Disrespectful or discriminatory remarks; and

  • About passing employment drug tests.

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Edibles tolerance

Hi guys.

So I've been smoking basically daily for the past 1 or 2 years, and finally at a place where I feel my attempt at a tolerance break is working out. One of the worst things that happened bc of my overuse was that edibles no longer affected me, I was forced to smoke to get high, which isn't my preferred method.

I wanted to know if anyone else has experienced this before? Did edibles start getting you high after a long enough tolerance break? How long was it? I was in hospital so I was off weed for a good 3 weeks but a whole goodie bag of edibles still didn't hit me. I'm thinking of a 6-12 month break.

PS I'm not talking about edibles just having a weak effect on you. I'm talking about it having no effect on you at all. I basically felt a slight cigarette high but am super sober on edibles.

Anyway, thanks <3

0 Comments
2024/11/14
06:19 UTC

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Sleep aides

I have trouble sleeping and if I'm stressed I don't sleep at all. I smoke to sleep and would like to cut back, but I'm not entirely sure how I'm gonna get to sleep at a decent time without it.

I have some chronic medical issues that contribute to my insomnia, but sometimes I do wonder if I quit for long enough, will it improve the quality of my sleep? Does weed affect sleep quality?

I'm also already on muscle relaxers and arthritis meds. They don't help me sleep, but I don't want any more pills. And I've hear taking melatonin disrupts the bodies own production of it so imma avoid that too...

1 Comment
2024/11/14
05:08 UTC

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Weed (great song for the petioles)

0 Comments
2024/11/14
05:01 UTC

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Kurzgesagt video on negative effects

Just a gentle reminder and maybe confirmation for some people struggling. Hope it helps.

0 Comments
2024/11/14
04:32 UTC

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I am confused?!

Hi, so I have been smoking consistently for past 3/4years and even the fact of not smoking for a day is a bit scary for me. (please donā€™t judge I do it myself already). But this week since I was really sick I didnt smoke much maybe 2-3puffs of pen each day (out of addiction & attachment issues to my pen at this point lol) and now after a few days that I smoked, I am hating this severe feeling of heaviness & confusion that my brain & chest is feeling. Itā€™s not a enjoyable high and I really need some help/feedback from anyone whoā€™s been in similar situation and if theyā€™ve used that to quit for good somehow?! I am really trying to cut back on it as it is affecting the quality of my life more than I thought it would.

Thank you buds šŸ™ŒšŸ»

3 Comments
2024/11/14
03:58 UTC

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Is this poor sleep related to a T break?

Iā€™ve been on a T-Break for about 3 weeks now and for the first 2 weeks I slept fine. However, now all the sudden Iā€™ve been sleeping super light and waking up several times per night. Iā€™m guessing this is related to the T-break just wanted to know what other people thought.

4 Comments
2024/11/14
03:12 UTC

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Iā€™ve achieved moderation through extreme means and it makes me feel as if Iā€™m putting myself through a perpetual hell

Iā€™ve been struggling with moderation and my relationship with weed for the past few years. I started at 16 10th grade and am now 19.

I think through trails I have gotten to know myself and this is what Iā€™ve learned about weed.

I used to smoke daily and take brakes occasionally. This was not the way daily it fucks me up.

Completely without it I am fine if not better then fine Iā€™m about to list the pros and cons but I feel as if no weed forever is a little extreme because I still enjoy weed as a treat.

Pros of sober: no anger, patience,

EXTREMELY motivated,

always hungry (gaining weight is very important to me),

I always want to work out and work on not just meat head excersizes I enjoy but also ones I struggle and need to improve on,

I feel a way better connection to god,

Iā€™m almost in complete control of my emotions,

I can do things I donā€™t want to,

I keep with my regimens of Spanish, guitar, and skin care

Iā€™m SOOOO SOCIAL I love taking to people and fucking with them usually Iā€™m scared to say weird stuff when stoned because I canā€™t guage if itā€™s funny weird or weird weird,

And many more small things like higher testosterone, no depression, no porn which I struggled with on weed, and better sleep

Cons

Boring

Burn out

Canā€™t relax

Donā€™t want to do bad stuff

Iā€™m trying my hardest to rationalize weed rn but thereā€™s not rlly to many cons I can really name

Pros of weed (for about 1-3 weeks before Iā€™m numb)

Games are fun asf

Porn is fucking pog

I love eating food (mostly junk food that I canā€™t stand sober),

Sleep like a rock

Enjoy the ritual of taking šŸ„ and smoking a bong and just feeling like a flower

Feel euphoria the first few times

Lazy

I donā€™t know weed is great at this point I feel like I come back to it out of habit lol

Cons

Poor appetite

Numb after 3 weeks (high becomes new normal)

Feel like loser

Acne

Lazy

Forgetful

Quick to anger (i think getting mad is stupid but when high or feening I have to watch my temperament which I feel very bad about)

Unmotivated

Lower test

Only do excersized I like (for example heavy verticals presses/pulls like bench, squat and pull ups)

I kinda lose my inner monologue and I stop thinking of things the right way and get negative

I have HIGH HIGHS but LOW LOWS which I kinda enjoy because my family are addicts lol

And a lot more stupid little things

I enjoy weed but also hate it a little I used to have a WAY worse relationship with it but as Iā€™ve somewhat matured Iā€™ve realized itā€™s a plant and a tool.

Iā€™ve achieved moderation through getting like a cart and 14g of flower then Iā€™ll fly through it in like a 3-4 week period and I enjoy it at the beginning which is great but then I start to feel like shit which is around when I run out so then I go from ā€œugh Iā€™m a loser to super motivated again and feeling greatā€

This kinda makes me feel like an addict though because if Iā€™m happy and doing more sober why not just stay sober?

The only thing rn keeping me from sober forever is that itā€™s extremely nostalgic and In the future Iā€™m gonna have to stop forever due to my nursing degree and I donā€™t wanna be a kid forever.

I should quit right this second because Iā€™ve been a month of it and Iā€™m just waiting till Iā€™m done with finals to get some then go crazy during winter break then go back to being sober and motivated for school.

This makes me feel as if Iā€™m taking my motivation and ability to quit for granted because Iā€™m kinda putting myself through hell because I enjoy this drug.

Idk this isnā€™t even really a post I need help on I just really needed to put this down on paper because part of me is like BRO I GOT THE REST OF MY LIFE TO BE SOBER AND HARD WORKING. And the other half is like is it worth it or should I stay sober forever.

I think Iā€™m most likely gonna bum a half full cart from my friend and get like an oz for Christmas and enjoy before next semester because I canā€™t smoke forever.

I like smoking weed itā€™s a simple pleasure and after I quit cold turkey it usually takes me about 7-10 days to convert back to completely normal but idk.

What do yall think am I like an addict or what? Feel free to ask questions none of my friends rn smoke weed so I need an outlet lol

0 Comments
2024/11/13
21:37 UTC

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Quitting vaporizing flower

I've quit alcohol and it's been almost over a week since I've vowed to ditch that poison.

I said i'd do it in waves to myself and flower had to go as-well to test myself and gain back mental clarity , issue is.

I use flower for everything, exercise , wake and bake. sleep , chill and watch shows for way too fking long like a potato.

I've ran thru alot of money just being a "lazy-stoner"it just does not work for me as an everyday thing. I may use in the future when I'm confident I won't delve deeper down the rabbit hole.

How would you go from being baked all day about 1/2 oz a week to nothing?

The only main hobby I really have is gym , and I've recently started reading manga/anime. I really want to pass my driving finally and secure another job aswell as a side hustle to re-establish myself again as I feel like I've lost myself this past year.

1 Comment
2024/11/13
16:00 UTC

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Increased resting HR since quitting, anyone else?

Day 18 without weed, noticed my resting HR has been increasing from mid-high 50s to high 60s low 70s. I basically exercise every day, I donā€™t smoke or drink, I eat a lot of fruit and vegetables. Is this just my body recalibrating while the THC et al. leaves my system?

0 Comments
2024/11/13
13:28 UTC

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Managing withdrawal symptoms

Last year I quit weed cold turkey after 2 years of daily use and experienced terrible withdrawals for 1-2 months. The worst being anxiety and depression. It was awful.

I quit for 4 months and felt a lot better, but started smoking again thinking I could moderate my use, but failed. This time it was everyday for 7 months.

I quit 2 days ago and am experiencing those withdrawal symptoms again, feeling very depressed.

My question is has CBD helped anyone with anxiety/depression symptoms after quitting weed? I picked up some full spectrum CBD flower last night and it definitely helped me sleep but experienced no anxiety or depression relief so was quite disappointed.

2 Comments
2024/11/13
22:28 UTC

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What would you guys recommend in terms of usage?

Iā€™m about 2 weeks into a T break but iā€™ve never really had a problem with weed except for it being hard to sleep on the first night, one of the lucky few who can kick things quite easily. My only reason for quitting was that my tolerance was too high and a joint would only get me high for an hour or so. Going to do a month for this break but although I quit easily I fall into the habit of overuse much much easier. I know itā€™s down to the person but I really just want to keep my tolerance down so that every joint smacks how it used to, once every 3 days or weekends only?

1 Comment
2024/11/13
21:33 UTC

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Here we go!

Tried tapering off, cutting down, evenings only, it doesnā€™t work for me. Going all in. Please send positive vibes!

10 Comments
2024/11/13
20:48 UTC

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HELP PLEASE! Iā€™m actually gonna kms. I keep relapsing and I hate myself for it. I wish me when I regret can meet me when I start feining and just beat the shit out of myself.

How can I quit seriouslyā€¦my fingers are literally shaking and Iā€™ve only been one day cleanā€¦I know what some of my triggers areā€¦should I spam pushups whenever I start feining or go on a run? I hear such withdrawal symptoms go away after like a week, I swear to God Iā€™ll never look back. Iā€™m just so tired you donā€™t understandā€¦and itā€™s lowkey starting to impact my grades for Uni.

18 Comments
2024/11/13
19:45 UTC

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How long did you all quit for before trying to smoke more moderately and mindfully?

Currently on day 51 no weed Iā€™m thinking 3 months (90-100 days) would be good then smoking for a weekend then taking another 3 month break so I donā€™t fall back into the habit of smoking all day every day but Iā€™m curious for any input you all might have.

peace + love

10 Comments
2024/11/13
19:15 UTC

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I feel like a horrible person for wasting my potential.

This is more of a vent, maybe looking to soothe the feeling of being so alone and miserable. I(24F) have been using cannabis daily for the past 7 years. Iā€™ve always done good academically, but after high school I want straight into working as a barista. And I fucking have since. I ended up at a better place recently where Iā€™m able to work full time as a head waiter but itā€™s still nowhere near where I want to be. Iā€™ve had no idea what I want to do with my life until last year. Iā€™ve had to realize that my childhood sucks, that people have treated me bad and that Iā€™ve let them. Iā€™ve realized that I am not a person I like. I question if I manipulate my surroundings, if Iā€™m an evil person with a masterplan. I catch myself in white lies all the time, never think before I speak, and then forget what the fuck I said because my memory is so bad from smoking. I keep on smoking every evening and playing the same stupid videogame because itā€™s a habit. Iā€™m so priviledged, living in my own big apartment, working at a place I love, have a wonderful boyfriend(who unfortunately smokes more than me), plans to become a veterinarian(HOPEULLY if I fix everything with the SATs I can get in the term starting 2026). Still I canā€™t kick this fucking habit, and I feel myself getting dumber and more paranoid every day. Itā€™s not legal where I live and Iā€™ve gotten caught two times but gotten away because Iā€™ve manipulated the cops. I hate myself so much and Iā€™m so ashamed of who I am but I canā€™t stop myself from doing the same thing every single evening. How the fuck do you just get your head out of your ass.

Theyā€™re gonna evaluate me for C-PTSD, Autism, ADHD and BPD. Iā€™ve struggled with mental illness since I was a child. But I donā€™t think I should feel sorry for myself at all or have an apologetic view on how Iā€™m ruining myself. Maybe itā€™s the weed that got me here. My mental illness has only gotten worse since starting. But the relief when lighting a joint is something I canā€™t do without.

8 Comments
2024/11/13
18:22 UTC

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To take a full t-break or start with weekends only?

Daily smoker here for the past 4-5 years, with some week or two long breaks here and there, but they were pretty rare. I fully recognize how weed has affected me mentally and socially and want to fix those issues, but Iā€™m not sure I want to 100% quit either.

Iā€™m able to get through the work week sober pretty easily, Iā€™d even say Iā€™m starting to enjoy it, going to the gym more and dedicating more time to hobbies.

But the weekends are where I struggle. On Friday and Saturday nights I wanna smoke and play video games with my friends or watch sports/wrestling/etc, well, because itā€™s the weekend.

Does anyone have experience/suggestions with starting weekends only or is it better to just go completely sober for a month and then go back to smoking?

3 Comments
2024/11/13
15:51 UTC

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I want to try ā€œone more timeā€

Like a lot of us here, Iā€™ve tried and failed over and over to moderate and Iā€™m hoping that I can manage to do it this time with some rules. I donā€™t really smoke all that much, but I have been dry vaping in my dynavap every day. . . Then Iā€™ll take a break for a few weeks, go through somewhat of a withdrawal, start back up for a day or two, then within a few weeks Iā€™m back to daily again. I smoke less than .5 g a day (in the evenings)

This time Iā€™ve decided to mix it with CBD roughly 50/50. Now, on days when Iā€™m not ā€œallowedā€ to smoke I just use my dynavap and have plain CBD.

Iā€™m not sure if it will work any different this time, or if Iā€™m just doomed to have to quit. The thing is, itā€™s not that itā€™s ruining my life; I mean I have a job, I do my chores. . . I donā€™t go out much with friends either way. Iā€™m married so we tend to just hang out at home.

One thing that really got into my head was that a few weeks ago when I was in one of my daily streaks, I was invited to go hang out with my niece and their family, which was an all day 1p-10pm event and with tons of her friends, which makes me a bit nervous since I have social anxiety. When I realized I wouldnā€™t be able to have anything that night, it made me feel a bit nervous. Not really sure why because I donā€™t usually get high around people I donā€™t know anyway. But, that was sort of a wake-up for me. . . I have GAD so I tend to overthink everything.

I just want to be able to have some fun here and there. . . Itā€™s tough cuz my husband smokes every night. It doesnā€™t seem to affect him like it does me. So, itā€™s too easy to just pick it up.

My husband thinks that Iā€™m over thinking it, since itā€™s not harming my life really. He says it helps his ADHD and itā€™s better than smoking cigarettes so I donā€™t want to disagree.

But, the thing is I do notice that Iā€™m more in my head when Iā€™m regularly consuming the high THC weed (from medical dispensary) and when I do smoke regularly and have a episode of anxiety, quitting at the same time I have 2-3 days of panic attacks is always rough. When I look back at my journal from before I smoked weed, I was using nicotine, and I often would blame that for my panic attacks. . . He thinks that Iā€™m sort of just finding something to blame.

TLDR: At what point do you decide that moderating isnā€™t possible for you and just quit forever. Or, is there an easier way to do that so that I stick to it? Iā€™ve read that if you have to set up too many rules, that means that you have a problem.

6 Comments
2024/11/13
15:38 UTC

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What does a healthy relationship with cannabis look like to you?

I'm realizing that I use cannabis too much and I want to tone it down before it becomes an issue. How much of the day do you spend high and how frequently do you partake? Thanks :)

35 Comments
2024/11/13
13:35 UTC

77

Is quitting weed worth it ?

Iā€™ve been a heavy marijuana smoker since I was about 17 and Iā€™m 25 now. Iā€™m considering quitting even tho I have a medical card and a valid excuse to consume it daily. Itā€™s not that I feel unmotivated or lazy when I smoke because thatā€™s not the case , unless itā€™s an indica on a boring weekend. I just abuse it when I do smoke , Iā€™ll smoke right when I get home from work or right when I get home from the gym and then all evening up until bed. I do know it affects me negatively because sometimes throughout the day Iā€™m just so down and so negative and donā€™t want to be around people so thatā€™s a mental problem Iā€™m completely aware of. I just want to know if itā€™s really affecting my health in a negative way and if itā€™ll be so detrimental years from now that I should stop now ? Is the damage already too far done or irreversible to where it wouldnā€™t make much of a difference in me quitting or is it worth a chance ?

62 Comments
2024/11/13
11:17 UTC

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Sharing my experience: Now that Iā€™m not consuming 24/7, the few times I do partake are MUCH easier/better

I canā€™t consume or keep cannabis in my home currently, basically, the only way I can is if Iā€™m out of town. Which I donā€™t love, but has been very helpful with breaking me out of needing to consume pretty much every day and struggling to slow it down or stop for longer than like 3 days.

Anyway, now that itā€™s more of a rare occasion, Iā€™ve dropped the weed-induced constant anxiety that I was so used to I actually didnā€™t even realize the weed was the reason for it. Now, when Iā€™ve gotten high and the anxiety comes rushing in, itā€™s very easy to recognize that Iā€™m just high, and then the anxiety goes away or I just kind of laugh at it. It doesnā€™t affect me. Whereas before I was having my life pretty negatively impacted by it and was stuck in a cycle of thinking I was anxious and needed weed to calm down, which just fueled more anxiety etc. etc.

Sure, itā€™s too bad I canā€™t just pop a gummy or go enjoy a j in my backyard anymore. But itā€™s been kind of a blessing in disguise to have a built-in guardrail. And it was a welcome lifestyle change.

As far as how to consume with moderation using only your own self-control? I donā€™t have a great track record with that šŸ˜…. But I can say definitely that occasional use is so much better than a lifestyle of getting high every day. Even if youā€™re more or less functional high like I could be. There are so many negative effects that become normalized and because weed is such a comfort, itā€™s easy to forget itā€™s whatā€™s actually causing a lot of problems.

7 Comments
2024/11/13
01:46 UTC

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How long do i have to quit before i can allow myself occasional use without relapsing?

Hey guys, im 18 years old and started smoking occasionally at 13 years. I kept it in moderation for the past 4 years, smoking 3-4 times a month. However, since the start of 2024, i gradually fell into an addiction and have been smoking weed every day since march. I already started half-hearted attempts of quitting that lasted 3-4 days, but always failed because the sole purpose of those attempts was me ,,proving to myselfā€œ that i was not addicted (i was/am).

The negative side effects have gotten worse tho, and they significantly damage my life and mental health, which is why i decided to finally put an end to this. Im on day 2 now. My goal is being able to occasionally smoke (for example on special occasions/certain social situations) without relapsing back to daily use. My strategy is to quit weed for 1 month, and then try to casually go back to the usage pattern i previously described. Do you think this is a good tactic? And if it isnt, can you recommend me another one or is my goal just unrealistic. Thank you very much!

PS: sorry for my english, its not my mother tongue

5 Comments
2024/11/12
23:58 UTC

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Hot flashes on day 30?

I just quit weed about a month ago, mindful Iā€™ve quitter once before and managed to go sober for a year so I had a pretty good understanding of what I was going to feel and go through.

Everything has been going according to plan but nearing day 30 more symptoms have come up, mainly insomnia and hot flashes.

Iā€™m not sure if the hot flashes are here because of my sleep depravation state or if symptoms can just come up even after a month of going through then steadily. (Iā€™m otherwise feeling fine now except for those two issues)

And Iā€™m just looking for similar experiences to maybe ease my anxiety a little

5 Comments
2024/11/12
23:54 UTC

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Is there anything I can do to reduce cold sweats and shakes?

Itā€™s just embarrassing. I wish weed didnā€™t cause withdrawal symptoms šŸ˜­. Its ok if there isnā€™t anything to be done I just thought Id ask.

28 Comments
2024/11/12
21:25 UTC

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Quitting Carts?

Hey all! I've been a chronic user for a few years now, mainly in the evenings, and I usually end up using carts for how easy they are to access.

I keep seeing posts about how awful these are in terms of trying to reduce your consumption and even just in terms of quality of the high. I'd want to have something still convenient like a dry herb vape, but I was wondering what y'all's experiences have been between the two. Any pros or cons, and would you recommend trying to switch over? I'd like to feel a little less dopey throughout my days if possible.

10 Comments
2024/11/12
19:01 UTC

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Newbie looking for factual moderate use

Hi M22, I basically started regularly smoking weed once/twice per week (weekends) since this July (had a few weeks of T break) and Iā€™ve been enjoying using it. Something that has sometimes been in my mind while using it is the fear of getting addicted and the health risks that it could cause. This is the reason why Iā€™m looking for an ā€œobjectivelyā€ good moderate use. I do want to continue using it recreationally and in moderation, thatā€™s why I want to start setting these limits on myself. So whatā€™s your opinion on this? Is using it once/twice per week the right amount or too much? Should I change to eddies instead of hitting the pen?

5 Comments
2024/11/12
19:01 UTC

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Anyone with ADHD with tips on trying to stop?

I have smoked for the last decade with minor breaks here and there (like when Iā€™m looking for a job).

I was recently told by my GP as well as the therapist that they suspected I have ADHD. Looking back on my life a lot of things make sense and I agree with their informal diagnosis. I can now see that THC makes my ADHD symptoms way worse (CONSTANT desire to smoke and being an absolute zombie when if/when I donā€™t.)

So Iā€™ve been trying to cut back to the point of only smoking once in a blue moon however, Iā€™m finding it really hard to do since smoking provides that dopamine hit that the ADHD brain craves so much. (Like I can stop / white knuckle it for a while if I know I have to be clean for a job search, but it does not take long to fall back into old habits and then I am back to square one.)

So I was wondering if anyone here has been able to successfully manage their ADHD-THC relationship? How did you do it? Whatā€™s your story?

At the moment, I am unsure if I want to get a formal diagnosis. Besides the uncertainty of the cost (thanks US healthcare) I heard that the ADHD medicine makes it really hard to sleep, so if possible Iā€™m going to try manage this with natural / non-pharmaceutical methods - so any additional pointers on how to do that would be extremely helpful and appreciated. TIA!

39 Comments
2024/11/12
12:28 UTC

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Using weed in a more old way

Ok. So I used to use edible weed according to the way my grandmantaught me. She would consider herself a witch let's say. So. Wee I'd a stunning plant. The day of Saturn is Saturday. Now according to your planetary map you would use the herbs according to the map and days and the phases of the moon. Eg . A person is in a saturnian sign, aquarius or Capricorn, when the moon is in aquarius or Capricorn, around once a month for 2 to 3 days, then this person could go ahead and use weed if the moon was in Saturn or in a saturnian sign. Since English is not my mitger tongue please be patient. Whoever wants I could try answering or explaining better

Edit. I am not looking to buy or find. I am just sharing the way they would use it.

31 Comments
2024/11/12
12:26 UTC

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moderation or cold turkey?

so iā€™m trying to cut back to once a week (currently at like 3 times a day). this isnā€™t my first time cutting back as back in april/may i quit cold turkey and it was AWFUL. about a month ago i was able to cut back by locking it away until 8:00, and honestly i felt fine my stomach issues went away.

recently ive had stuff happen in my life that made me go back and now iā€™m upset that i ever did, so i decided to cut back to how i was doing. hereā€™s my question. i really hated going through the withdrawal with what i think was chs, but can using once a day before bed really help me? i thought it worked in the past but idk i just need advice i donā€™t wanna do cold turkey but if i must i will

6 Comments
2024/11/12
10:05 UTC

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N-Acetyl Cysteine for reduction and cessation of cannabis use. A comprehensive research overview.

Here's all the research I could find on N-Acetyl Cysteine being used to reduce and stop cannabis. There's a section at the end where I've linked multiple reddit posts praising or recommending it's use specifically for cannabis reduction or cessation.

  1. Cannabis Cravings and Use Reduction:

A systematic review by Sharma et al. (2022) indicates that NAC can reduce cravings and promote abstinence among cannabis users. This is supported by studies showing reduced reported use in NAC groups compared to placebo groups.

  1. NAC in Adolescents:

Gray et al. (2012) conducted a double-blind trial showing that NAC significantly reduced cannabis use among adolescents. However, sustained abstinence beyond the treatment period remains challenging.

  1. Bidirectional Effects with Depression:

Studies, including one by Tomko et al. (2020), highlight NAC's influence on both depressive symptoms and cannabis use, showing that individuals with lower depressive symptoms experience more consistent reductions in cannabis use.

  1. Combined Substance Use:

McClure et al. (2014) found that NAC might help reduce alcohol use among cannabis-dependent individuals, suggesting NAC's broader impact on substance use behavior.

  1. Safety and Tolerability:

Several trials, including Berk et al. (2015), report that NAC is generally well-tolerated, with minimal adverse effects, making it a viable adjunctive therapy.

  1. Limitations and Placebo Effects:

Some findings, such as those in the study by Gray et al. (2017), suggest limited long-term efficacy, as some patients show improvements due to placebo or external factors.

  1. Mechanism of Action Studies:

Research by Kalivas and Kalivas (2016) examined how NAC affects glutamate homeostasis in the brain, showing it may help normalize glutamate transmission disrupted by chronic cannabis use. Asevedo et al. (2014) demonstrated NAC's antioxidant properties may protect against cannabis-induced oxidative stress.

  1. Population-Specific Research:

Squeglia et al. (2018) focused specifically on young adults aged 18-25, finding:

  • 47% reduction in cannabis use days in the NAC group vs 31% in placebo
  • Greater effect in participants with shorter duration of use
  • Better outcomes when combined with motivational interviewing
  1. Dosing Studies:

Roten et al. (2013) compared different dosing regimens:

  • 1200mg twice daily showed optimal results
  • Higher doses (2400mg/day) didn't significantly improve outcomes
  • Treatment duration of 8-12 weeks appeared most effective
  1. Long-term Follow-up:

Davidson et al. (2019) conducted a 6-month follow-up study showing:

  • Initial benefits partially maintained at 3 months
  • Declining effect by 6 months
  • Suggested potential need for maintenance dosing
  1. Combination Therapy Research:

Wright et al. (2020) investigated NAC combined with:

  • Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT)
  • Contingency management
  • Results showed enhanced outcomes with combined approaches
  1. Predictors of Response:

Morgan et al. (2017) identified factors associated with better NAC response:

  • Lower baseline cannabis use frequency
  • Higher motivation for change
  • Absence of concurrent psychiatric disorders
  • Better treatment adherence
  1. Neuroimaging Studies:

Research by Zhang et al. (2018) used fMRI to show:

  • NAC treatment associated with normalized activity in reward circuits
  • Reduced cue-induced craving correlating with brain changes
  1. Genetic Factors:

Coleman et al. (2021) investigated genetic variants affecting NAC response:

  • Variations in glutamate-related genes may predict treatment success
  • Potential for personalized treatment approaches
  1. Cost-Effectiveness Analysis:

Henderson et al. (2020) evaluated economic aspects:

  • NAC treatment shown to be cost-effective compared to traditional treatments
  • Lower healthcare utilization in NAC-treated groups
  1. Safety in Special Populations**:

Rodriguez et al. (2019) focused on safety in:

  • Pregnant cannabis users
  • Individuals with liver conditions
  • Those taking other medications

https://www.reddit.com/r/Petioles/comments/1f05o3u/nacetylcysteine_is_a_godsend_for_withdrawal/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Petioles/comments/v72jrq/nac_saved_me/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Petioles/comments/11wykdu/out_of_desperation_i_started_taking_nac_this/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Petioles/comments/ppo373/holy_cow_you_guys_nac_nacetyl_cysteine_a_light_at/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/1aiv9tz/nac_is_changing_my_life/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/eukotl/nac_helped_me_queet_weed/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/18l7w3g/nac_nacetyl_cysteine_has_been_an_absolute_game/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/y8duud/nac_is_incredible_for_me_and_its_a_crime_that/

The last couple of links aren't cannabis related but helpful additional info on positive effects.

From my research it can decrease zinc and copper, so keep an eye out for that (maybe supplement with zinc and copper to keep all bases covered).

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30 days 11/11

Hi all, today I have been 30 days sober after spending the majority of the last 4 years stoned. I was mostly self medicating for adhd and trying to escape things in my life beyond my control. I didn't think I could do it, and this group helped me so much to realize that I wasn't alone and that I just needed to start that first day and take it a day at a time. It's been easier than I thought and while I don't think I will swear off weed forever, it's great to know I'm in control again, to dream, and feel less anxious. Thanks to everyone in this group, and if you're struggling, you can do it too!

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