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Centralized location for discussions regarding the profiling of unidentified persons in the United States.

This subreddit was originally created as an open forum to discuss and share information pertaining to the Grateful Doe case. It is now dedicated to investigating and raising awareness of all unidentified persons cases.

As a community, we strive to work together, to bring about change, and to utilize resources such as social media to close the cases of unidentified people. We hope to return all of the names to the unidentified persons that we profile here, to restore their dignity, and to bring closure to their loved ones.

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who was McLean County Doe (1982)?

Doe Network link

on February 2, 1982, a woman was found in Bloomington, McLean County, Illinois. she died by suicide and was found hanging from a utility pole.

McLean Doe was white with an "olive complexion", light brown or hazel eyes, graying black shoulder-length hair, 5'10", 140 lbs, and estimated to be 25-50 years old (Doe Network narrows the range down to "most likely 35-45"). she was a smoker and did not show any evidence of childbirth.

she had been seen prior to her death, with 2 individuals saying they picked her up when she was hitchhiking, as well as a farmer and state highway crewman, who asked if she needed help when seeing her "wander the highway", which she denied.

the Doe Network says this:

"One of her keys was traced to a locksmith from New York City and also had an address printed on it. Investigators later learned this address did not exist."

it's just really strange to me. forgive me if there's a simple answer, i just can't think of a reason. does anyone know why somebody would have a key with a fake address? i wonder if the address just had typos, but i assume this would have already been considered by law enforcement.. sorry i'm kind of stuck on it, it's just really unfortunate that it was a dead end

all Doe cases make me sad, but there's something really melancholy about the suicides. i just can't help but think about how things may have turned out differently if she had accepted help 😦 it reminds me of the case of Alisha Heinrich

Moxxy Forensics is working on her case and crowdfunding for the costs associated with her identification! here's a link!

NAMUS link (warning for postmortem image)

EDIT: added Doe Network link to top of case so images of her show

14 Comments
2024/04/26
00:09 UTC

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theories and general thoughts on 460UFHI or “ah”?

this case maybe isn’t particularly special, but i’ve always had a peculiar interest in it due to the amount of time she was alive and safe without any identity being confirmed. the following extract is from the doe network:

The unidentified, homeless woman was located living in Ala Moana Park. She was in need of medical attention and could not walk due to lack of strength. She was admitted into a state hospital where she received treatment until her death on April 27, 2013. While she lived in the state hospital she was unable to care for herself. She was schizophrenic and described as being very proper and having an English Canadian-like accent. She was an avid reader and was a smoker. She referred to herself as "Ah," with the sound being the "a" as in the pronunciation of the word "agreement." Based on investigative conversations with local social service organizations, she had probably been in Hawaii for six to eight years prior to her discovery.

57 Comments
2024/04/24
21:14 UTC

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Missing Person, Rochester WA

This is Stephen “Shane” Barton, we use to work together years ago and was well know in the motorcycle/dirt bike community around the western part of the state. He walked away from home one day in Rochester Washington ( minutes from Olympia and about an hour from Seattle) on March 9, 2023 after making his wife coffee and was never seen again. Looking for any possible matches. You can get more info in his page here https://www.facebook.com/share/Nbyiz6aQUu4fbpMU/?mibextid=K35XfP

Currently James Basinger from Hide and Seek podcast is interviewing folks in the community about the case.

6 Comments
2024/04/24
17:47 UTC

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DNA Doe Project Identifies Motorcycle Mountain John Doe 2001 as Jeffrey Thomas Rupen

2 Comments
2024/04/23
20:30 UTC

105

How often do families decide not to make identities public?

I have a pet-case, so to speak, that I believe was solved because both their Namus entry and Moxxy Forensics page were both removed on the same day, leading me to believe it was solved and they were identified. They were unhoused and I can’t find any information indicating they were local to where they were found. It’s making my brain itch like crazy because I care about the decedent, but can’t seem to find any more info about them since their (presumed) identification. Is it common for solved cases not to be publicized, ever? Or are they usually identified later on?

20 Comments
2024/04/23
16:28 UTC

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John Doe found in 1989 by a logger surveying in the area

Information taken from DoeNetwork. NamUs #UP13903. He has 0 missing person exclusions.

4 Comments
2024/04/23
14:36 UTC

51

Belle Chasse John Doe.

On Valentine's Day of 1975, in Belle Chasse, Louisiana, a couple was driving down a road in the woods, when they discovered the deceased. He was hanging from a tree, with his bedsheets. He had killed himself, and in his suicide note read:

"Mom and Dad, You have provided be excellent advantages and privileges and experiences. I am extremely grateful for all of your sacrifices, time and support. I am now repaying you with an arrogant act. In this light, I do see it as criminal. I can only hope that you see that it was me who caused it. I never did develop into a real person and I cannot tolerate the false and empty existence I have created. It is best if I cease to live, quietly, than risk that later I will break and shatter by violence or linger years under care. I implore you to see a psychiatrist in order that you might understand my death and my life. Ask thoroughly about what I was and you will see that it is not tragic that I am gone but more natural than if I continued. I was born with a definite pervasive melancholy. What frustrated me most in the last year was that I had built no ties to family or friends. There was nothing of lasting worth and value. I led a detached existence and I was a parody of a person-literally and figuratively. I didn't tell jokes-I was a joke. I am a bomb of frustration and should never marry or have children. It is safest to defuse the bomb harmlessly now. I do not want to bother with being a "reformed and cured" person limping through life. I am this self-centered. I am no longer interested in the world and know that it is not interested in me. When you stop growing you are dead. I stopped growing long ago."

And on a separate note, read a message to authorities.

"You are bound to preserve domestic peace and order. If you pursue who I was (and spend hundreds of dollars) you will accomplish little. There are no legal consequences of my death or any kind of entanglements. All that can happen is that you will shatter the domestic peace and order of two innocent lives. Do not deprive them of the hope that their "missing" son will return. Let me be, let it be as if I wasn't ever here. Simply cremate me as John Doe."

He got his wish, as he was cremated, and after a hurricane, his file was lost, and he may never be identified.

He was a white man, aged 16 to 18. He was tall, being 6' tall, and was around 150 to 160 pounds. He had short brown hair, brown eyes, and his front teeth slightly protruded. He was wearing maroon and yellow long-sleeved Puritan knit shirt, Blue Arrow pants with a brown belt, and mismatched socks - one gray and one dark blue.

If you have a relative suffering from self harm or depression, please talk to them. If you know someone with thoughts of saying goodbye, please try to help them. And to those who have thoughts themselves, please, let it out to someone. Just talk it out, and don't bottle it up. You have a beautiful life ahead, so don't cut it short. Those you love will miss you, and will yearn for your voice one more time.

Thank you for giving Belle Chasse John Doe a moment of your time.

13 Comments
2024/04/23
01:50 UTC

503

New Artist Render of #UP98827

Noticed this incredible artist render done by Kelly Lawson posted for namus #UP98827 recently. Do not know how new it actually is but it was posted 2 days ago on April 19th.

John Doe was found August 13, 1987 in Decatur, Georgia. He was a Black male estimated to be 40-50 years old, 5’7”, and 140lbs.

https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/98827/details?nav

26 Comments
2024/04/21
18:43 UTC

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After 407 days Kay-Alana Turner has unfortunately been found deceased.

5 Comments
2024/04/21
03:54 UTC

48

What extent will authorities go to to inform family?

I have a family member who has been severely mentally ill and homeless for years. The last proof of life was over two years ago. I worry they have died. They were fairly transient so there’s a handful of states and cities they could be in. I have made a profile for them on NAMUS but don’t have photos of identifiers such as tattoos. Etc.

12 Comments
2024/04/19
21:41 UTC

64

Unclaimed body vs “Unfunded” body cases

Just wanted to put this out there as I have been seeing people waste a lot of time lately on social media with some unclaimed body cases. These are cases where the identity is known, but they are listed as “unclaimed”. In these cases, the family usually knows the individual has died, they just lack the finances needed for cremation or burial services. Some agencies require that the person be listed as “unclaimed”. These types of cases have been all over social media lately. Some of these families are then hounded by sleuths who believe they have cracked the case. Check with the reporting agency to verify if the next of kin has been notified before diving too deep.

7 Comments
2024/04/19
09:32 UTC

111

Who is Fort Bend County Texas 2023 John Doe?

Fort Bend County, Texas, John Doe 2023 On June 13th, 2023, the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office was called to the scene of a drowning of an unknown individual. The victim was a Hispanic male, between 40-50 years of age, and weighed approximately 150 pounds. He had a buzz haircut, brown eyes, and wore a mustache and beard.
​ In March 2024, Moxxy Forensic Investigations teamed up with Intermountain Forensics and the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office to attempt to identify this John Doe through the use of investigative genetic genealogy.

A crowdfund has been established to cover the costs associated. Once funds are received and lab work is complete, Moxxy Forensic Investigations will conduct investigative genetic genealogy to identify this individual.

10 Comments
2024/04/18
20:02 UTC

27

Mohan Chandra Vellanki possible match?

6 Comments
2024/04/17
15:50 UTC

81

Does anyone remember the case of the woman found dead in Kensington that was apparently thrown from a moving vehicle?

Does anyone remember the case of the woman found in Kensington that was apparently thrown from a moving vehicle. Around the mid 2000's. I remember she had a chin implant. She was unidentified for awhile. Then she was identified by DNA, and her name was going to be released, but as far as I know it wasn't. Or has it been and I can't find it?

18 Comments
2024/04/16
22:29 UTC

91

DNA Doe Project Identifies Smith County Jane Doe 1985 as Sindy Gina Crow

1 Comment
2024/04/16
20:30 UTC

693

What are Some of The Most Unsettling/Creepy Reconstructions of John/Jane Does you have saw?

Me personally, this is probably the most unsettling reconstruction I have saw, Ina Jane Doe - https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/166ufil.html

234 Comments
2024/04/16
20:21 UTC

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Jawbone found in child's rock collection identified with investigative genetic genealogy - "Rock Collection John Doe" is Captain Everett Leland Yager

In 2002, a human jaw bone containing several teeth was submitted to the Yavapai County Sheriff's Office in Northern Arizona. The bone, collected by a child as he added to his rock collection, had likely been picked up in the county - but the boy's parents were not sure exactly where or when. Traditional DNA testing was performed, but there was no match in government databases to "Rock Collection John Doe".

More than 20 years later, students in the IGG Bootcamp at Ramapo College Investigative Genetic Genealogy Center used IGG to identify Captain Everett Leland Yager as a likely candidate for Rock Collection John Doe in Summer of 2023. A reference sample was collected from Captain Yager's daughter, and he was positively identified in March of 2024.

Captain Yager had perished as the result of a tragic airplane accident during a military training exercise in 1951. Although his remains were thought to have been recovered at the scene of the accident in California, Captain Yager's jawbone somehow ended up in a child's rock collection 50 years later. This part of the story remains a mystery.

Source - Ramapo College of New Jersey

42 Comments
2024/04/16
15:07 UTC

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Who is Fort Bend County, Texas John Doe

On December 17th, 2000, skeletal remains of a White/Hispanic male, aged 17-23, were discovered by a passerby in Needville, Texas.
The decedent was believed to have been deceased 3-9 months prior to discovery. John Doe had a healed fracture of his tailbone and his front two lower incisor teeth were rotated and overlapping. Recent isotope testing indicate he may have originated from Guatemala or Southern Mexico.

​Moxxy Forensic Investigations has teamed up with Intermountain Forensics, the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office, and the Harris County Institute of Forensic Science to attempt to identify this John Doe through the use of investigative genetic genealogy. This is a crowdfund case. https://www.moxxyforensics.com/casework

3 Comments
2024/04/14
21:26 UTC

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Who is “Hostess B”?

"Hostess B" was the nickname given to the second and only unidentified victim of the Shinjuku–Kabukicho Love Hotel murders that occurred in 1981 in Tokyo, Japan. The girl was found in Room 203 of the Coca Palace Hotel on the night of 25 April 1981, at around 10 p.m. She was strangled to death with her pantyhose, and most of her clothes and possessions were missing. She is between 20-25 years of age. The drug methamphetamine was detected in her body. It is believed she ingested the meth orally due to the lack of injection marks, but it's unknown if she took it forcefully or consensually. About an hour before she was found, she was seen checking into the room with a man. The man was seen leaving the hotel without paying, which made the employees suspicious, so they checked the room and found her. Japanese authorities could not identify her, so they released a sketch of her to the public. However, no one came forward to identify her. It is speculated that she is of Taiwanese origin and from a rural area. She possibly only came to Tokyo recently due to her clean lungs. Between March and June 1981, three young women were killed in love hotels in the Shinjuku and Kabukicho areas of Tokyo. The murders stopped after an additional victim survived her attack. The man seen with the victims before their deaths was described as 25–30 years old, having a round face, well-dressed, and standing about 160 cm (5'2) tall. In the last two incidents, he wore black-rimmed glasses. To date, the man has not been identified, and the murders remain unsolved. In 1996, the statute of limitations for the murders (15 years) expired, meaning that the killer could not be prosecuted even if he was identified. The statue was abolished in 2010.

“Hostess B” is believed to have/be:

  • Possibly of Taiwanese origin.
  • Clean lungs.
  • Unhealthy teeth.
  • Surgical scar from axillary malodor surgery.

“Hostess B” clothing and accessories:

  • Yukata.
  • Sandals.
  • Earrings.
  • Cigarettes.
  • Lighter.

She has been unidentified for 42 years. I hope this poor young woman gets her name back soon.

https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Hostess_B https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinjuku–Kabukicho_Love_Hotel_murders

15 Comments
2024/04/14
15:48 UTC

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