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Welcome to the subreddit! This is a subreddit for those cases of murder that go unsolved for years, even decades.

Some murders are so shocking and evil that they capture the mind of the general public and it wont let go until a killer is brought to justice. What happens when the murderer doesnt get caught? Theres no sense of closure and the families of the victims are left devastated. Please post information in the comments related to the case!

Welcome to the subreddit! This is a subreddit for those cases of murder that go unsolved for years, even decades.

Some murders are so shocking and evil that they capture the mind of the general public and it wont let go until a killer is brought to justice. What happens when the murderer doesnt get caught? Theres no sense of closure and the families of the victims are left devastated.

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Cold Case; For those murder cases that police and the public consider cold, after a few years or decades

Unsolved; For recent cases of people being murdered in the last few years.

Update; News articles related to a person who has been murdered, whether the police or family are trying to get information

Historical; Cases from centuries ago without a resolution

Solved; Cold cases that finally get resolved with justice for the victim and family

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Who Murdered Beth Buege? 34 Years Later, Murder STILL Remains Unsolved.

I was recently speaking with a family member, who is an acquaintance of a person who is related to the case of Beth Buege, a beautiful woman brutally killed in 1990. I felt compelled to do a deep dive and to break down this case timeline in order to re-share this haunting and unsolved murder. Hoping anyone who may see this that has info will come forward and help bring about justice for Beth. It's never too late!

Beth Buege, Age 21

A LITTLE ABOUT BETH:

Beth Eileen Buege was born on May 16th, 1969 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. She was actually adopted by the Buege family when she was just five weeks old, and she grew up alongside her older brother, Bruce. Prior to her death, she worked as a jewelry store clerk at Brookfield Square, certainly on her way to being promoted to a management position, but had also been interested in modeling. She was absolutely gorgeous with a dazzling smile, and was adored by friends, family and all who knew her.

Beth Buege, young and beautiful with a full life ahead of her.

THE DISCOVERY OF BETH'S BODY:

On the morning of June 3rd, 1990, a local resident spotted a red 1985 Plymouth Laser at 4943 N. 49th Street in Milwaukee. Upon closer inspection, the person saw a woman slumped inside, although she did not seem to be moving. Moreover, the car even had a customized license plate that read FLRT12. As the woman appeared to be in need of help, the resident opened the car door which had been left unlocked, before realizing she did not have a pulse. He immediately called 911. First responders rushed to the scene. They attempted to revive her but declared her deceased within minutes.

Once the police were on the scene, they found Beth sitting in the passenger’s seat of the car but slumped over towards the driver's side of the dashboard . She did not have a seatbelt on. An autopsy later determined that Beth was strangled to death. Moreover, apart from specific asphyxiation marks, medical examiners also found fingernail impressions on her neck, indicating that Beth had fought valiantly for her life before being murdered.

Beth's car found parked in neighborhood, just 8 minutes away from her last known location

THE BEGINNING OF THE INVESTIGATION:

  • Investigators noticed cash was inside Beth's wallet, ruling out a robbery gone wrong.
  • Beth was fully clothed with pants buttoned and buckle fastened, ruling out a sexually motivated crime.
  • Cause of death was manual strangulation, a very personal and rage ridden type of attack leading investigators to believe Beth knew the killer.
  • Location of Beth's car and her body were parked in a neighborhood where she did not know anyone.
  • A witness who currently lived near where Beth's car was parked, was up early in the morning, and saw (between 6-6:30a.m) what appeared to be Beth's car driving past. The car was jerking quite a bit, leading her to believe the driver was having trouble, and was not familiar with driving a stick shift. She only saw the driver, who she described as a white male with brown hair and glasses. The witness also noticed the license plate read "FLRT-12".
  • No fingerprints were recovered from inside or outside the vehicle.

RETRACING BETH'S FINAL MOVEMENTS:

  • On Saturday, June 2nd, 1990, Beth was having a regular day. She finished and left work (at the jewelry store) at about 6:30p.m.
  • A friend of Beth let investigators know that Beth told her she would be going to her boyfriend's apartment to watch a movie. His first initial is "J".
  • J was also Beth's co-worker. He lived in the apartment with his mother which was situated above a restaurant that J's mother managed.
  • Beth and J had been dating for about three weeks.
  • Police made their way to J's apartment to speak with him. His mother answered the door, letting them know he was not there but had recently left for work.

J's MOTHER'S TIMELINE:

  • She arrived home from work at about 11:00pm
  • She saw Beth and J sitting on the couch watching a movie.
  • She told them she was going to bed. She had trouble sleeping and at one point called out to Beth and J to please turn the volume down.
  • The next morning, on Sunday, June 3rd, J's mom awoke at about 6:00a.m. to an "unfamiliar" sound. She heard footsteps headed towards the door leaving the apartment. She assumed this was Beth leaving.
  • She then went back to sleep and awoke at 8:00 a.m. and saw that J was in bed still sleeping.
  • J awoke and then got ready for work and left at about 9:00a.m.
  • After taking J's mother's statement, police left for the jewelry store to speak with J

POLICE ATTEMPT CONTACT WITH J:

  • J however was not at work when police arrived, and a co-worker told police J had just received a call about Beth's murder and left the store "angry" and upset.
  • When asked who called him, J's co-worker told them it was one of "Beth's friends."
  • Police would eventually make contact with J

NEW LEAD:

  • Beth's family claimed a friend of hers had called asking questions about her death. Police soon learned this was one of Beth's ex-boyfriends, as they had broken up about 6 months prior to her death.
  • Beth had at some point called her ex-boyfriend from her place of work on Saturday, June 2nd.
  • Beth then once again called her ex-boyfriend later in the evening, but this time at a payphone around 8:00pm, hoping to meet up with him.
  • Investigators spoke with her ex-boyfriend who told them that while she did call him those two times, he had not made any plans to meet up with her. In fact, he had a girlfriend who was working a night shift job in Chicago. He had left Milwaukee for Chicago before or around 4:00a.m to pick his girlfriend up. After he picked up his girlfriend, they were exhausted and went home to sleep at about 5:30a.m. His girlfriend was able to corroborate his story.
  • It was later learned that Beth and her ex-boyfriend were both adopted, and had actually been platonically supporting each other in finding and/or learning more about their birth parents. While this still left a narrow window for the ex-boyfriend to have potentially been the murderer, police had nothing else and ruled him out as a suspect.

J's TIMELINE:

  • Investigators were finally able to track down J for questioning.
  • J told investigators that on Saturday, June 2nd, Beth had stopped by at 8:45pm. They decided to stay at his place for the evening.
  • J told investigators at about 10:30 p.m., they had both gone out to Beth's car to retrieve a video to watch.
  • J told investigators his mother had arrived home from work at about 11:00pm.
  • J told investigators his mother stated she was going to bed and to please keep the T.V. volume down.
  • Shortly after that, J told investigators he and Beth had fallen asleep.
  • J told investigators he woke up at 6:30a.m. the next morning to Beth already awake and getting ready to leave. According to J, she had stated she wanted to leave before "his mother saw that she was still there," and that she was going to drive home.
  • J told investigators that after Beth left, he fell back asleep.

*It was noted by investigators that aside from a minor time difference in J and his mother's stories, (Beth leaving at 6:00a.m. vs. 6:30a.m.) that all small details in their stories matched up perfectly. A detective said almost "too" perfectly, as they would have had time to get their stories straight before the police spoke with J.

INTERROGATING J:

  • Police again sat with J at the station, hoping to get more answers.
  • Investigators noticed J had abrasions on his hands - one on his top right hand, and one on one of his fingers were clearly noticed.
  • When pressed about his hand injuries, J became "emotional."
  • J's mother had hired an attorney who then showed up and demanded the interrogation end.

MORE INTERVIEWS:

  • Investigators then tracked down the baker who worked at J's mother's restaurant (which again was located directly below J's and his mother's apartment.)
  • The baker told them she had arrived to work on Sunday, June 3rd at 4:45a.m.
  • She told investigators she noticed Beth's car parked in the parking lot.
  • One hour later, approx 5:45a.m., she said she heard a noise from the back door, which was also an entry way to J's and his mother's apartment.
  • She told investigators it had sounded like a door slam and some sort of commotion, which she ignored.
  • One hour later, approx. between 6:45a.m - 7:00a.m., the baker told investigators she saw J's mother. She told investigators she had "never seen J's mother up and about that early, that she always slept much later".
  • Then the baker told investigators between approx. 8:30 - 9:00a.m., she saw J's mother down in the basement doing laundry, which was in her words, "unusual."
  • Investigators also interviewed another restaurant employee, one of the cleaning crew members.
  • The cleaning crew employee said Beth's car was still there, parked near the restaurant when he arrived, which was at 6:00a.m. However no one saw Beth's car leave.
  • Investigators then interviewed a newspaper deliverer, who told them Beth's car was definitely gone when he had stopped by the restaurant/apartment area, which was between 6:45a.m. and 7:00a.m.
  • Investigators also noted that the neighborhood Beth's car was parked in was approx. 8 minutes away from J's apartment.

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OUTCOME SO FAR:

  • Despite the many interviews, searches and red flags from a certain suspect, police were unable to determine who Beth's killer was, due to a lack of physical evidence.
  • What we do know: J was the last person to see Beth alive, and according to the witness who saw the driver early that morning, it was a male with brown hair and glasses, which resembled J's appearance. However, that witness was unable to confidently identify J as the man she saw.

*The case had been cold for many years, until 2008 when Detective Kathy Spanos decided to re-visit it.

*Kathy Spanos re-interviewed the baker from the restaurant, and this time the baker had something very interesting to share: That when she saw J's mother in the basement doing laundry, which she had said was "unusual", she also remembered that J's mother was "actually washing sheets and bedding."

However nothing ever came of that. But you can make of that what you will.

*Beth's killer remains a free person, has never faced consequences, and is possibly living their "best life", while Beth's was tragically cut so short.

Rest in Peace, Beth. I pray for justice as well as answers and closure for your brother Bruce and his wife.

Beth's Resting Place

If you know ANYTHING at all about this case that could be valuable to the investigation, please contact the Milwaukee Police Department.

SOURCES:

The Cinemaholic - Beth Buege Murder

Investigation Discovery - On the Case w/Paula Zahn - FLRT-12 Season 24 Episode 5

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2024/11/12
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I have information on the disappearance of Tim Molnar. Unsolved since 1984. Found in Washington County, WI.

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Richard Allen convicted of Delphi Murder.

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Jury reaches verdict in Delphi Double Murder Case

EDIT: Richard Allen Found Guilty On All Counts

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/11/us/delphi-murders-trial-verdict/index.html

MODS, how do i update flair to SOLVED?

stay tuned. it should be announced very soon.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/11/us/delphi-murders-trial-verdict/index.html

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Was Lizzie Borden Innocent Or Guilty?

Prime suspect of the murderers of Abby and Andrew Borden. Her own stepmom and dad.

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A New Suspect? The Unsolved Murders of Kimberly Best and Paige Sinclair

On October 5, 1977, two hunters hiking in Foresthill, California spotted what they assumed was a trail of blood from an injured deer. They followed the blood from the road’s edge down an embankment along the heavily wooded eastern side of Lake Clementine and, within only a few feet, discovered the bodies of 15-year old runaways, Kimberly Best and Paige Sinclair.

Their murders remain unsolved.

While the story never appears to have gained national attention, it has, in the years since, spurred discussions and speculation about the identity of Kimberly and Paige’s killer.

What hasn’t been discussed, however, are the events that happened a week later, on October 12th, when two other teenage girls were attacked in the same location — and escaped.

Were the cases connected?

***

I came across the story of Kimberly and Paige while researching my last article, The Truth About Santa Rosa. Because of the general proximity, timing, and circumstances, it has long been hypothesized that these killings were carried out by the same person.

The theory is at least worth consideration. This time there actually was a solitary monster roaming the streets, looking for victims.

But just as we saw in Santa Rosa, finding the truth can be a complex and frustrating process.

Warning: Very Graphic Content Ahead.

***

To better understand this story, it helps to have a sense of the area’s geography.

Foresthill, California is located in Placer County, on a wide ridge of heavily wooded land — known as the Divide—between the North and Middle Forks of the American River.

A 20-minute drive down Foresthill Road takes you over the Foresthill Bridge (the highest in California) and into Auburn, where it connects with I-80.

Should you take I-80 W, another hour of driving will bring you to Sacramento, passing areas like RosevilleCitrus HeightsOrangevale, and Rancho Cordova along the way.

Should you take I-80 E, you’ll drive through the Tahoe National Forest, passing exits for Kings Beach and Incline Village on Lake Tahoe, before crossing the border and reaching Reno, Nevada in about 90 minutes.

Our story mostly takes place within these boundaries.

***

Here’s what we know so far: On the morning of October 3rd, Kimberly and Paige boarded their school bus in the small town of Dallas, Oregon. Paige was carrying a suitcase.

According to classmates, the girls were best friends and had talked of running away for several days. So when they didn’t show up in class, no one was surprised.

It was first believed that Kimberly and Paige hitchhiked from Dallas to Corvallis, Oregon where they then purchased bus tickets that took them the 500 miles south to Sacramento — however, a truck driver later testified he’d picked the girls up in Klamath Falls, Oregon and he was the one who dropped them off in Sacramento on October 4th.

Exact details after this remain fuzzy.

One witness claimed to have seen Kimberly and Paige hitchhiking at the intersection of Madison Avenue and I-80 near American River College at 9am. Other witnesses were said to have seen the girls talking with “two bikers” outside Auburn as late as 3pm that same day. Neither account could ever be 100% verified, but between the two it was the former version that police followed up on.

Whoever gave the girls a ride first drove them up Foresthill and then turned left down the winding, “nearly hidden” dirt road that led to Upper Lake Clementine Beach. Sheriff’s deputies said the area was known to be used by young people who went to the beach and “stayed for days.”

“It appears that someone was familiar with the area to take the two girls there,” Sheriff-Coroner William A. Scott later said.

Items found at the murder scene on October 5th give some indication as to what occurred before the girls’ deaths: soda and beer cans, a pack of cigarettes, a notebook, and a shotgun shell. Paige’s flower-printed suitcase, containing “clothes, costume jewelry, and a few other items,” lay nearby.

Both girls had “superficial markings” on their necks.

It would later be determined that Kimberly had been shot in the right temple by a .38 caliber pistol. Her plaid blouse was pulled up to her neck, and her underwear was yanked down to her ankles.

Paige was “fully clothed in a white blouse and blue jeans.” She had been “severely” bludgeoned to death with two separate instruments.

Kimberly and Paige were identified by student I.D. and library cards found among their possessions.

At this point in the story, the basic details match the sad circumstances of the Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders: young teenage girls hitchhiking alone and later found murdered.

It’s not hard to imagine what might have happened. And just as we saw in the Santa Rosa cases, given the random and anonymous nature of crimes involving hitchhikers, it can be incredibly difficult to find a suspect.

But only twelve days after the bodies of Kimberly and Paige were discovered, police arrested 26-year old American River College student Kenneth Lane at his home in Citrus Heights.

In an interview the following day, the chief deputy district attorney of Auburn attributed Lane’s arrest to “a lot of really precise investigation and a lot of lucky breaks.”

The circumstances were certainly unusual.

Sacramento resident, Maxine DaCosta, was the witness who claimed to have seen Kimberly and Paige at Madison Avenue and I-80. Maxine told police she watched them getting into a white truck driven by a bearded man and, thinking the girls might be in trouble, she followed the truck for a time in an attempt to remember relevant details.

However, when she was initially interviewed by police, DaCosta couldn’t recall the license number. It was allegedly only after she underwent hypnosis that she was able to list 5 out of 6 numbers on the license plate, and it was this detail that led police to identify white-truck-owner Lane as a suspect. Later testimony by DaCosta revealed she had included the “beard” detail after Lane’s picture appeared in the paper.

On October 14th, police went to Lane’s residence on Paco Court in Citrus Heights, where he let them inside. He admitted he’d been to Foresthill a few weeks earlier with his then-girlfriend, Linda Sue Davidson, to mercy kill his cocker spaniel that was going blind from cataracts.

While searching Lane’s house, police found live bullets from a .38 caliber pistol in a suitcase, as well as wooden grips to the same pistol on the roof of his garage. When he took police to his truck (a white Ford matching DaCosta’s description), Lane failed to locate the gun and said it must have been stolen. In fact, his house had been robbed on September 20th, and the break in was reported to both police and Lane’s insurance company.

The following day, police returned to Lane’s home and were met by Linda Sue Davidson. She told them where the cocker spaniel had been buried— about a mile from the spot where Kimberly and Paige were found. Bullet casings later taken from the dog’s grave were said to match both those found at his house and the bullet used to kill Kimberly.

Based on these findings, Lane was arrested on October 17th. By October 31st, the Placer County Sheriff’s Office closed its investigation into any other possible suspects in the murder of Kimberly Best and Paige Sinclair.

The trial began on September 22, 1978 but the venue was changed to Santa Rosa for jury selection. Placer County special prosecutor, Rick McClendon said they were seeking the death penalty because Lane had “tortured, raped, and then murdered the two girls.”

While the gun that allegedly killed Kimberly was never located, police claimed to have found the weapon used to kill Paige: a “body-and-fender hammer” that police said was left to dry next to Lane’s kitchen sink after he’d cleaned the blood off. But Linda Sue Davidson disputed this, saying she’d used that hammer to hang curtains for privacy in the wake of Lane’s arrest — days after police claimed to have seen it there.

Further, Davidson testified that on October 4th —the morning of the murders—she’d given Lane a ride to class in his truck, dropped him off at American River College at 7:45am, then drove the truck back to their house and took a nap.

(She later stated it was possible their neighbor, Richard Ybarra, borrowed the truck without asking, which he had done in the past. Ybarra was arrested for shooting a man during an armed robbery in May 1978, but denied any involvement in the girls’ deaths. The judge at Lane’s trial ruled Ybarra’s testimony “contradictory” and barred it from evidence.)

Attendance records showed Lane was in class that morning, but prosecutors argued he could have left early. An instructor for a later class at noon said Lane didn’t sign in, but Lane’s attorney, William Lipschultz, said the attendance records showed the instructor was prone to errors.

By Davidson’s account, she then picked Lane up at 1pm. A service station employee, Jean Farot, said she saw Kimberly and Paige at the intersection of Lincoln Way and Foresthill Road sometime between 1 and 2pm. Two other witnesses, a Mr. and Mrs. Richard Allen, also claimed they saw the girls at the same intersection.

(A fourth witness, Roger Stockman, testified to “seeing” Kimberly and Paige there as well. More on his claims later.)

Both receipts and eye witness testimony confirmed that Lane drove to a hardware store in Sacramento to pick up sand between 3 and 4pm — almost exactly the time frame when medical examiners estimated Kimberly and Paige were murdered in Foresthill.

Lane’s defense attorney, William Lipschultz, argued that Kimberly and Paige were hitchhiking from Oregon when they were “picked up by a person driving Lane’s truck.” He went on to hypothesize that while the girls were in the truck, one of them stole Lane’s gun before the truck driver dropped them off, and then they were picked up by one or more people they knew; the stolen gun, he said, was later used to kill Kimberly.

Lipschultz “did not elaborate” on this theory to reporters, but used a visit to the murder site to demonstrate his belief that the girls were killed by more than one person and that investigators had failed to properly examine the evidence found there.

While on the stand, Placer County Sheriff’s Inspector Johnny Smith “admitting neglecting to collect or consider…numerous items found at the crime scene,” including Paige’s “suitcase and coat, soft drink and beer cans, a shotgun shell, a notebook, cigarette papers” and a “Marlboro soft pack right by the blood on the road” Smith further admitted he never asked Lane if he smoked. Lane, who underwent surgery for colon cancer in 1974 and regularly traveled to Tijuana for quack cancer treatmentsdid not smoke.

On November 13, 1978, the judge declared a mistrial when the jury announced they were deadlocked.

Ultimately, Kenneth Lane would be tried three times, and each time resulted in a hung jury: 7–5, 6–6, and 7–5.

The final trial ended on July 2, 1979. A month later, on August 6th, the Placer County District Attorney announced they were dropping murder charges and wouldn’t pursue a fourth trial. Lane told newspapers that after everything that had happened he planned to relax: “The worst is knowing I didn’t do anything. I had to sit there and hear people talk about me and see the way they would look at me.”

On July 21, 1979, three weeks after the final trial of Kenneth Lane and nearly two years after the murder of Kimberly and Paige, an arrest was made—not for murder, but for the simple act of shoplifting. This would have been unremarkable, except the shoplifter was an Auburn policeman caught stealing “dog repellant and a hammer” from the Pay N’ Save in Citrus Heights.

Officer Joseph James Deangelo was eventually fired for this petty crime.

Thirty-nine years later, in April 2018, it would be revealed that Deangelo was known by other names:

Visalia Ransacker

East Area Rapist

Original Night Stalker

The Golden State Killer

As Deangelo was apprehended at his Citrus Heights home in 2018, the ex-policeman “told officers he had a roast in the oven. They said they would take care of it.”

***

Unlike my conclusions about the possible identity of the Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murderer, Joseph James Deangelo is the type of monster one conjures when imagining a “serial killer” — a trusted family man hiding in plain sight while methodically carrying out sadistic crimes in his own community.

On August 21, 2020, 75-year old Deangelo — serial killer, serial rapist, burglar, and peeping tom — was sentenced to life in prison for committing at least 13 confirmed murders, 13 kidnappings, 51 rapes, and 120 burglaries. He was “one of the most prolific serial offenders in history” and, between 1974 and 1980, he carried out a campaign of “sexual terrorism” across Placer County.

Following his 1979 arrest for shoplifting, Deangelo moved to Southern California where he continued his rape and murder spree until 1986. It wouldn’t be until 2001 that DNA evidence definitively linked the crimes, and Deangelo himself wouldn’t be identified until 2017 when detective Paul Holes and FBI lawyer Steve Kramer uploaded genetic material found in a rape kit to a genealogy website.

Many of Deangelo’s victims were teenage girls, and it only makes sense to wonder if he might have been responsible for the deaths of Kimberly and Paige. One amateur investigator noted “I posted this case on my Twitter and Paul Holes responded with “He has to be considered.”

Other web sleuths have put forth theories that Deangelo framed Kenneth Lane for some reason. Given Deangelo’s habit of moving evidence around crime scenes, perhaps this theory isn’t as absurd as it might first appear. Furthermore, Deangelo’s home in 1977 was on Granite Lane, only minutes from the intersection where Kimberly and Paige were allegedly last seen.

It was on one of these forums that I came across a post by a woman named “Tracy” who wrote:

On October 5, 1977 Hunters discovered the brutally murdered bodies of 15 year old Kimberly Dawn Best and Paige Suzann Sinclair a few yards off a dirt road in the woods near Auburn Calif. One man was charged but a jury failed to convict him. For that, I am thankful.I have assumed for 43 years that they now knew that Kimberly and Paige were killed by him or at least had a starting point to investigate further and he would be caught. It was only when I looked up the murder of them a few days ago that I discovered it was still unsolved. I’m appalled that there is no mention of Larry anywhere.”

For 40+ years the case has remained unsolved. Many have wondered if Kim and Paige were 2 more in the long list of [Deangelo’s] victims. I know they were not. Unbelievably, some members of the local Sheriffs office know that as well.

How do I know, you might ask? In mid October 1977 my friend (I’ll call her Jo) and I went “for a ride to the mountains” with a man we met in a park in Orangevale near Jo’s sisters house whom we were visiting from So Cal.

His name was Larry.

Once in the mountains Larry asked us if we wanted to smoke a joint and drink some beer. We sat side by side on the hillside just a few yards off a dirt road near Auburn, with Larry in a crouching position in front of us. When we finished he suddenly sprang forward grabbing both of us by the throats and slammed us to the ground saying “do what I say and you won’t get hurt”. He raped us.

After raping us he pretended to be sorry and said he would take us home. I told him we would find our own way home but he insisted. Afraid he would hurt us then and there we pretended to believe him but with one hand on the door handle and the other squeezing Jo’s hand in the back seat to keep her from crying we went. We planned to escape at the first sign of people… but there was none.

He drove us deeper and deeper into the forest in his old 2 door Ford Fairlane. Where the dirt road was wide and smooth in the beginning it gradually became worse until we were descending into a valley with nothing but thick woods in front of us, huge ruts in the road and the bushes scraping both sides of the car. I knew we were almost to the place he planned on killing us. Still pretending to believe he was taking us home I said “this looks like the wrong road” and he agreed. Surveying the area he explained how he was going to use a small clearing on one side to turn around. When he turned in there was thick brush just ahead on our side… And he slammed the gas peddle to the floor.

When he did that I flung the door open. Had he kept his foot in it, the bushes ahead would have trapped us in the car but he panicked, slammed on the brakes and grabbed ahold of me. I pulled up the seat and yelled RUN JO RUN! He tried to grab her but she flew. With his one hand still gripping my arm I turned and hit him as hard as I could and ran behind her leaving only the sleeve of my shirt in his hand.

…After walking for miles we broke into a house and waited for the owners to come home. They contacted the [Placer County] Sheriff on the CB radio, no phones that far out. The couple took us to a little store/post office they owned (still dirt road) where a deputy picked us up. We only knew the guy as Larry.

When the deputy radioed in the call he gave Larry’s first AND last names. There are some details I don’t remember but there are some things I will never forget. The following are the reasons I am convinced [Deangelo] is not those girls’ killer.

After the hospital we were taken to the Sheriffs (police?) station. When we walked into the detectives office there was a picture of Larry sitting on his desk. They pretended it was accidental and said we weren’t supposed to see that. The detective said to us:

“Last week we pulled the bodies of 2 girls out of the EXACT area he took you to. They were so badly beaten we couldn’t identify them.”

(Until last week I didn’t know one of them had been shot). I don’t remember if it was that night or a couple days later when they talked to us again that they told us that this was the 4th time Larry had been arrested for rape. We were his oldest victims. Jo and I had birthdays 1 day apart. She just turned 16 and me 18.

It was the second time we talked to the sheriffs that I forever lost all faith in law enforcement and the judicial system.

In the second interview they told us that they had arrested him in his ex-wifes bathroom. He was shaving off his sideburns. They said that in the previous 3 rape cases they had not been able to convict him. He gave them some bull story that it was consensual sex and we just took off afterwards. They said that since we hadn’t (yet) been beaten there was no way to prove otherwise. Also since we had smoked marijuana we could have imagined the fact it was rape and our testimony would be no good and since there were no convictions in the prior cases they could not use those in a trial.

They had released him and the DA had dropped the case. Oh, they told us that we could push it if we wanted to but the defense would drag us through the mud and we smoked pot so it was unlikely he would be convicted. I guess we were supposed to be satisfied with the restraining order they gave him. We soon returned to So Cal and never heard from them again. As far as the exact date, I’m not positive but it was only a day or two after our birthdays. Mine is October 11.

I have assumed for 43 years that they now knew that Kimberly and Paige were killed by him or at least had a starting point to investigate further and he would be caught. It was only when I looked up the murder of them a few days ago that I discovered it was still unsolved. I’m appalled that there is no mention of Larry anywhere.

[Edits and formatting changes made for clarity.]

***

I reached out to Tracy hoping she might be able to provide more information on this unexplored angle to the story. Who was Larry?

While I waited for a reply, I took another look at the evidence uncovered during the trials of Kenneth Lane.

Among the items found on Paige’s body was a scrap of paper with the address for what turned out to be the Primadonna Casino in Reno, Nevada. Police hypothesized this was where the girls were headed when they were hitchhiking in Auburn.

But why? Why would two 15-year old girls from rural Oregon be traveling to a casino in Reno?

While Kimberly had never left her small town before, Paige had actually been to Reno several times. After her parents divorced, it appears Paige lived with her mother in Reno for a while before moving to Oregon with her father.

Dissatisfied with small town life, Paige ran away earlier in 1977 and had been living all summer at the Garni Motel in Kings Beach on the shore of Lake Tahoe. Jean Hickey, head housekeeper at the motel, told investigators that Paige used the fake name “Sarah Richards” and worked in the housekeeping department there.

Hickey went on to say that Paige showed up for work one day after having been “severely beaten” by her 31-year old boyfriend because she drank the last of the milk. In the course of this conversation, Paige confided to Hickey that she was pregnant and that her boyfriend thought she was 16, not 15. “If I told him, he’d kill me,” she said.

As it turned out, Kenneth Lane’s defense attorney, Lipschultz, had actually defended Paige’s boyfriend on narcotics charges in the past. And so during Lane’s trial, Lipschultz called Lawrence Fitzgerald to the stand.

I’ll admit, I missed it the first time, but then it clicked:

Paige’s boyfriend was Lawrence Fitzgerald.

Lawrence.

Larry.

Paige’s older, abusive, drug dealing boyfriend was named Larry.

***

Part 2: A New Suspect? The Unsolved Murders of Kimberly Best and Paige Sinclair

Part 3: A New Suspect? The Unsolved Murders of Kimberly Best and Paige Sinclair

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2024/11/11
01:35 UTC

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/they got away with it

Content like yours inspired me to start a new community. I would be thrilled if you’d consider sharing some of your work with us! The community is called /r/TheyGotAwayWithIt – a space dedicated to exploring unsolved cases and incidents where justice was never fully served.

Thank you for the inspiration, and I hope to see you there!

This keeps the tone professional while inviting them to participate in your community.

3 Comments
2024/11/08
20:24 UTC

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For those following the Amber Tuccaro case

I created a subreddit to try and identify the Leduc serial killer. For almost two decades, with most of the disappearances taking place in the early 2000s, young women have been kidnapped and murdered in the Edmonton/Leduc/Beaumont area of Alberta, Canada. Most of these women are Indigenous, but not all of them. Most of these women were engaged in the sex trade, but not all of them.

As a local, I have been desperately investigating this case for years. Now, I need public help.

For years, people have speculated about who killed Amber Tuccaro in 2010 - her final moments were recorded on a prison phone call, which has since been released to the public. Many have identified the voice, but still, this man remains active in the community.

This subreddit is a place to hopefully crack this case or, at the very least, make some headway. If you have followed the Amber Tuccaro case or are generally interested in solving the Missing and Murdered Indigenous cases of Canada, come join us at r/leducserialkiller

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2024/11/08
18:32 UTC

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11-Year-Old Nelson Jones Found Murdered in Hope, Kansas – 34 Years Later, His Killer Remains Unknown

In the small town of Hope, Kansas, the unsolved murder of Nelson Louis Jones remains an open case. Nelson was just 11 years old when he was found murdered in his bedroom on October 27, 1990. To this day, the crime remains unsolved, casting a shadow over the town.

Nelson was born and raised in Hope, a close-knit community where everyone knew each other. He was an active, energetic, brave kid who enjoyed hanging out with friends, and riding his bike through the neighborhood. He had a bright personality and was well-liked by his classmates. On that Saturday, his family left him home alone for a few hours, trusting he’d be safe in their quiet town. They never imagined the tragedy that would soon unfold.

The Crime

On October 27, 1990, Nelson’s family went to a community event in Wichita. Nelson had mentioned that a friend might come over while he was home alone, but it remains unclear if anyone actually visited him that day. At around 4:50 pm, a neighbor saw Nelson riding his bike near his house. This was the last confirmed sighting of him alive.

When the family returned home around 6:00 pm, they couldn't find Nelson. After searching the house and not seeing any signs of him, they went to the school carnival, hoping to find him there, but he was nowhere in sight. They then began searching the neighborhood, asking neighbors if they had seen Nelson. Eventually, Nelson’s younger sister discovered his body in his bedroom. He was kneeling by his bed, with the upper part of his body leaning on the mattress, as if he was praying. The estimated time frame for when the murder could have occurred was between approximately 5:00 pm and 5:45 pm.

There was no sign of forced entry, which led authorities to believe that Nelson might have let the killer into the house willingly, perhaps recognizing them as someone he knew and trusted. He had been strangled with a small cord or wire. However, the murder weapon was never found. Evidence was sparse, and there were no visible signs of a struggle, indicating that Nelson may have been caught off guard. Authorities have remained tight-lipped, and few additional details have been released to the public.

Open Questions

There are still many unanswered questions about Nelson’s case that haunt both his family and the community:

  • Could the friend Nelson mentioned, who he said might visit, hold key information about what happened that day? Did they show up, or did something prevent them from coming?
  • Is it possible that someone from the town—someone who knew Nelson and was familiar with his family’s plans—was involved in the crime? Could it have been someone Nelson trusted enough to let into the house?
  • What factors made it so difficult for investigators to uncover any leads in such a small town where most people knew each other? Was there a lack of physical evidence, or did fear and secrecy play a role in keeping witnesses from coming forward?
  • Could anyone in the neighborhood have noticed unusual behavior, an unfamiliar vehicle, or someone acting strangely around the time of the murder?

A Call for Sharing Memories

There have been no recent breakthroughs in the case, and as time moves on, it becomes harder for those who might have information to recall details or find the courage to come forward.

If anyone remembers anything—no matter how minor it may seem—please consider to come forward. Even the smallest piece of information could be the missing link that helps solve this decades-old mystery.

This case remains a haunting small-town tragedy that deserves more attention and a renewed focus. Let’s help keep Nelson’s memory alive. Together, perhaps we can shine a light on the truth and ensure that Nelson is never forgotten.

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2024/11/07
21:58 UTC

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The unknown woman in the Weissenbach - Todtnau Jane Doe.

We are in Germany, this time in the Baden-Württemberg region, in the far south of Germany, the city is Todtnau, which currently has just over five thousand inhabitants. It is July 24, 1997, the partially burned body of a woman is found buried in a pit in the forest hiking parking lot "Weissenbach" in the Präg district in the Heidelbeerbülhl area, we are about thirty kilometers from the Swiss border, it's a place frequented by hikers of several nationalities - the clothing of our woman, however, does not resemble that of a hiker.

The unknown woman from Todtnau is wearing a light-colored Speedway T-shirt, a long dark blue De Ville skirt with a light floral pattern, a blue plastic belt with a gold-colored buckle, white Roberto Santi sandals with gold-colored ornaments, size 38, a light-colored bra, white Trend panties in cotton, size S - she may also have been carrying a "DeLanee" bag with her, which was later found by the owner of a restaurant, the "Präger Böden", less than ten kilometers from the place where she was found. The investigators are positive, they are convinced that the distinctive clothing could help to identify her. About her clothes, currently sold in second-hand shops, we don't known exactly where they were sold at the time. While various sources tell us that in 1997 they were available in Vögele stores in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, deputy spokesman for the public prosecutor's office Michael Blozik claims that they were only available in Switzerland and in some shops on the border. Her sandals, made by an Italian company, could also have been resold and purchased in any other country. She is around 164 cm tall, her age is estimated to be around 20 years old, she has brown hair, about 34 centimeters long and the size of her clothes suggests that she has a slim build.

We don't know who she is, what her name is, or how she got there. We only find out later that she was left in the Weissenbach for at least several days, possibly up to two weeks. Establishing the exact cause of her death is almost impossible, probably due to the state of decomposition of her body. We only know that it was doused with a substance that accelerated its combustion, probably gasoline - the berry hunters who found her quickly looked around, the first thing they noticed was a construction shovel not far from the body.

There aren't many theories about what happened to her. It's very likely that she was a murder victim, given the circumstances of her discovery. Opinions are divided about her origins, some believe she isn't from very far away, others theorize that she could be from Eastern Europe, or even Turkey, maybe she was a victim of human trafficking. Chief detective Matthias Höfling is instead convinced that the woman has some connection with the Swiss border, given the origin of her clothes.

There are no missing person reports linked to the woman, and if there are, the police have not been able to find one to her in all these years.

On May 10, 2023, the case of the unknown woman from Todtnau will become part of the Identify Me project, an operation launched by Interpol to solve cold cases across Western Europe to identify 22 unnamed women found dead in several countries, including the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany. A public appeal has been launched for information on the unidentified women. Interpol, together with the Dutch, German and Belgian police forces, have released new forensic facial reconstructions, including that of our unknown woman, which was made public last year by the Stuttgart Criminal Investigation Department, along with other information needed for the investigation - after twenty-six years, the unknown woman from Todtnau finally has a face.

On 10 November 2023, the case was covered by Germany's most popular cold case TV program, "Aktenzeichen XY... Ungelöst", and thanks to this and the Black Notice of the Identify Me campaign, the Waldshut-Tiengen public prosecutor's office received at least around 120 reports, which, according to Blozik, are currently being investigated.

The authorities are asking anyone who thinks they have information about the case to contact the Freiburg police, who are offering a reward of 3,000 euros for information that can help them investigate the crime and identify the perpetrator, while any tip-off that leads to the identification of the woman will be rewarded with 2,000 euros. Anyone who thinks they may have witnessed the crime is asked to contact the Lörrach police at 07621/176-800, at +497621 176-800 or by email loerrach.kk.d1.coldcase@polizei.bwl.de.

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links to the facial recontrusction and the clothes.

https://images.app.goo.gl/W8DkG4syVz13FAZY9

https://images.app.goo.gl/dt1ENMkVNQK32Kx1A

(sources: https://www.bka.de/DE/IhreSicherheit/Fahndungen/Personen/UnbekannteTote/Kampagne_NL_B_D/Soko_Hochkopf_Freiburg/Sachverhalt.html

https://www.suedkurier.de/region/hochrhein/kreis-waldshut/tote-frau-20-im-schwarzwald-polizei-bittet-im-cold-case-fall-von-1997-um-hinweise;

https://fahndung.polizei-bw.de/tracing/todtnau-cold-case/

https://www.verlagshaus-jaumann.de/inhalt.mordfall-von-1997-in-todtnau-80-hinweise-gehen-ein.8217bdb1-7eb5-4fad-bf74-2ceb95e78883.html

https://www.watson.ch/international/deutschland/599165804-mord-in-todtnau-1997-polizei-erhaelt-120-hinweise-aus-der-bevoelkerung

https://www.badische-zeitung.de/cold-case-todtnau-praeg-polizei-hat-neue-hinweise-zur-identitaet-der-leiche-erhalten

https://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/inhalt.junge-frau-1997-bei-todtnau-getoetet-cold-case-aus-dem-schwarzwald-bei-aktenzeichen-xy-ungeloest.710dd61c-d46f-487b-807c-5dddabc64809.html

https://www.bild.de/regional/stuttgart/stuttgart-aktuell/ungeloester-mordfall-wer-diese-frau-kennt-bekommt-2000-euro-85686198.bild.html

https://www.20min.ch/story/todtnau-d-26-jahre-nach-leichenfund-das-ist-die-frau-im-blumenrock-898245609575

https://www.blick.ch/ausland/cold-case-nahe-der-schweizer-grenze-unbekannte-tote-hat-nach-26-jahren-ein-gesicht-id19119329.html

https://www.bzbasel.ch/basel/basel-stadt/toetungsdelikt-cold-case-in-basler-grenznaehe-neue-hinweise-koennten-zur-identitaet-der-leiche-fuehren-ld.2537960

https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Todtnau_Jane_Doe

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/1408o1k/an_unidentified_woman_was_found_burned_in_a/?rdt=38660 )

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2024/11/06
14:21 UTC

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Altena Bergfeld Jane Doe, killed by her own father.

Altena-Bergfeld Jane Doe was a young female found murdered in a wooded area in Germany, between Hemecker Weg and Bergfeld, in North Rhine-Westphalia. She had been raped, strangled, and burned alive. Unspecified evidence has proven that she was killed by a relative and efforts were made to conceal her identity. The body was burned and the upper half was very disfigured, making it hard to recognize her.

The date of the woman's death is probably June 1, 1997, and while some sources say it is possible that the woman died up to a month earlier, we can be pretty sure in saying that the woman was killed no earlier than 48 hours after she was found.

On Monday June 2, 1997, around 7:30 pm, a young motorcyclist, who is living out his urge to move on his off-road bike, found the partially burned body of a young woman at the end of a forest path above the Rahmedetal in Altena (pop. 23,077 in 1998). The motorcyclist immediately called the police and forensics is conducted late into the night. The woman was naked and her left leg was slightly angled, protruding unnaturally from her body. She was found in a wooded area in Altena-Bergfeld, Germany, near the city limits to Lüdenscheid.

https://images.app.goo.gl/q64Ks7DwzGbi4pF17

The facial reconstruction you're seeing now was made by Ursula Wittwer-Backofen, famous anthropologist from the University of Freiburg.

The woman was very petite, standing at 5'1" (150-155 cm) and weighing 100 lbs (around 45 kg), and is estimated to have been between 14 and 22 years old (probably more around 18-22, as her skull was fully developed) at the time of her death. At first she was thought to have blue eyes, although it is very likely that her eyes were dark, Frank Haarmaan, who is currently leading the investigation, stated that they could've lightened after the woman's body was set on fire. She had a pale complexion, and auburn to dark brown hair. The woman's teeth were very well taken care of and she may have worn a gem on one of her incisors (tooth 12, possibly a diamond-like, likely imitation, ornament around 2mm), which investigators believe may have been purposely removed during her murder to avoid her identification. She may have additionally recieved orthodontic treatment prior to becoming a teenager and she may have worn braces in the past before she turned 12. Her shoe size was likely 33/34/35 (EU), (2,5/3/3.5 US), her toenails were painted with red polish. The body was nude, yet blue/gray fibers at the scene may have been from fragments of clothing, an isotope test was inconclusive, however, it is believed she spent the first 15 years of her life in Eastern Europe.

Postmortem examination indicated that the woman had been raped, strangled with a nylon stocking, and then doused in some kind of fuel and set on fire, she was probably killed elsewhere. During the autopsy skin was found under her fingernails and semen was found inside of her vagina. DNA discovered on the woman's body was examined and found to belong to a male relative (a lot of German articles say it was her own father).

It's possible that the family or father claimed that the girl moved away or ran away. It could also be possible that they claimed to have reported her missing but never did. Further examination of the woman's body revealed she was still alive when her killer set her on fire, smoke was in fact found in her lungs, although she was not necessarily visibly alive to the perpetrator, as she could've fainted. The reason for her burning was probably to cover up evidence, as it seems that the killer tried to erase whatever features that might have led to her identification. They speculate that Jane Doe and whoever murdered her may have belonged to a family travelling through the area, who by chance headed for the remote woodland on the mountain field to kill the young woman there.

Also, some believe that she could have been a part of a group passing through the area for the rifle festival in the city the weekend before her death, it's possible she could have belonged to a group of showmen. However, police didn't find any information that would support the theory. In fact, some people remembered two twins who worked in a circus, one of whom always performed with her father, but this lead did not produce any results. The two twins, in fact, are both still alive and well.

Investigator Ulrich Kayser said he didn't think a foreigner would find the place the body was found, as it was a very remote area, but he also didn't think a family in the area would have been able to keep a family member's disappearance a secret. In 2017, twenty years after the murder, Kriminalkommissar Ulrich Kayser told Westfalenpost: "There must be a family somewhere that misses their daughter."

There is speculation on the Doe's Websleuths thread that her death could have come as an islamic honor killing and she may have been of Turkish descent, however it's not very likely, considering that she is probably Romanian, although this is just a theory. The case was recently featured on Germany’s biggest (unsolved) crime show, Aktenzeichen XY... ungelöst . It really went into detail and also talked about some theories, like a taxi driver, that came forward years later, that said she drove a young lady and three older men into the woods, she said that they spoke a foreign language she couldn't understand, they said they were the father and the brother of the girl and they left the taxi as soon as they began to approach the woods, even though it was late night.

Identifying the victim could also lead to the crime being solved. If you have any information, please contact the Hagen police headquarters, Tel. 02331/986-2066, or any other police station. Her fingernails and her DNA are available for comparison, probably also her teeth.

[sources: https://www.wr.de/wr-info/article5201322/die-jagd-nach-dem-grausamen-moerder-geht-weiter.html

https://victimsofhomicide.fandom.com/wiki/Altena_Jane_Doe

https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Altena-Bergfeld_Jane_Doe

https://web.archive.org/web/20031005194444/

http://www.lka.nrw.de/fahndung/hagen/default.htm

https://www.wp.de/region/sauer-und-siegerland/article212643923/vom-vater-missbraucht-und-verbrannt.html

https://www.come-on.de/luedenscheid/bergfeld-leiche-polizei-hofft-tv-sendung-1455014.html

https://www.bka.de/DE/IhreSicherheit/Fahndungen/Personen/UnbekannteTote/Kampagne_NL_B_D/MK_Bergfeld_Hagen/Sachverhalt.html

https://missingdoe.com/uf-0011/

https://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/309ufdeu.html

https://www.interpol.int/How-we-work/Notices/Operation-Identify-Me/DEO3-The-burned-body-in-the-forest

https://www.bild.de/regional/ruhrgebiet/ruhrgebiet-aktuell/fall-bei-aktenzeichen-xy-wer-ist-das-mordopfer-mit-den-schoenen-zaehnen-84811718.bild.html

https://www.bild.de/regional/ruhrgebiet/ruhrgebiet-aktuell/ermittler-wenden-sich-an-zahnaerzte-glitzerstein-soll-cold-case-aus-altena-loese-84904584.bild.html

https://www.bild.de/news/2023/news/bka-kampagne-mordopfer-unbekannt-wer-kennt-diese-toten-frauen-83865912.bild.html ]

I'm sorry for my poor English, unfortunately I'm not a native speaker, I'm still learning.

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2024/11/06
14:18 UTC

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The woman in the Bugsinsee - Althüttendorf Jane Doe.

We are in Germany, the state is Brandenburg. We are at Lake Bugsin, in German Bugsinsee, in Althüttendorf, near Frankfurt on the Oder. The lake is divided by a railway line and belongs to the Schorfheide biosphere, it is located near the Joachimstahl motorway exit of the A-11 federal motorway, between Berlin and Stettin - it is June 26, 2004, an elderly amateur fisherman spots a travel bag near the shore. It is very similar to those used by the Bundeswehr (German military forces) but it is not original, the color is olive green, it is big, it can be carried with two straps - the man looks more carefully, a human leg sticks out of the bag. That Saturday afternoon Wolfhard Trenn, an investigator of the Eberswalde homicide squad, a branch of the Frankfurt police headquarters, is on duty. The control center informs him of the discovery of the body, he immediately goes to the lake with a colleague of forensic sciences at around 3:00 pm.

What has just been found is the body of a woman, she has nothing with her that leads to her identity - no documents, no personal effects.

The woman is fully clothed. She is wearing a black and grey striped long-sleeved bodysuit with lace trim in the shape of waves around the neck and sleeves with a width of approximately 3.5 cm, size L, brand "MARTINA 81516", dark blue stretch jeans of the brand Bulani with grey corduroy back pockets and 12 cm long slits on the legs trimmed with corduroy. She is wearing a pink underwired bra of the brand Gina Benotti with lace and padding, size 80b, and a black thong with three metal rings. Both Bulani and Martina are not registered trademarks in Germany in 2004, while investigators are having better luck with the underwear. The bra and panties were sold in Ernsting stores in northern and eastern Germany for four months starting on 27 December 2001 - the store where they were purchased, however, remains a mystery. The woman is wearing a single blue left sock, some sources also mention the presence of a size 31/27 belt, the only brand present is "Made in China".

We soon learn that the bag was stolen from its original owner, so it gives us no information on the identity of the executioner or that of our unknown woman.

We have some information about her physical appearance. Average height, between 160 and 165 cm, Caucasian, her body weighs between 50 and 60 kg, her shoe size seems to be 34-35, her hair is dyed red, naturally brown, 30 to 35 cm long, she has a completely healed scar of 8.5 cm on the upper right arm and a scar of 1 cm x 0.5 cm, on the right knee joint. She has two holes in her left ear and one in her right ear, she has no scars from smallpox vaccination and has not had an appendix operation. As for her teeth, they are described as poorly positioned: the incisors are slightly overlapping in the upper and lower jaw, a characteristic that is evident to a more careful eye. It is precisely the teeth that help us learn more about our unknown. To determine the woman's age, an expert uses the study of the so-called anulation of the dental cement. The layers of dental cementum that have deposited on the root of the tooth are counted. "They are similar to the annual rings of trees," explains Wolfhard Trenn. It is with this method that the age range initially attributed to the unknown woman changes drastically; if older sources attribute her to 17 to 25 years, now we know the truth. The unknown woman from Althüttendorf is between 34 and 45 years old.

The woman's teeth had been restored, which suggests regular visits to the dentist. The existing amalgam fillings immediately arouse the investigators' interest. This is gamma-2-free amalgam, which in 2004 has not been used or sold on the German or Western European market for several years - in Eastern Europe, however, it is still in use - but the theory that the fillings were placed in the GDR era, therefore certainly before 1989, cannot be ruled out immediately.

It is estimated that she died between 3 weeks and 6 months, the body is decomposed, swollen from being in water, the woman's face is unrecognizable, the cause of death seems undetermined - too much time has passed, the water has erased part of the crime. Forensic experts even manage to reconstruct the softened papillary ridges of the victim so that they can take an imprint from each finger. They try to find matches in the fingerprint identification system, they do the same in the DNA database, all in vain - no information attributable to the poor woman from Lake Bugsin.

The investigators publish their findings on the woman's teeth in the Zahn Ärzteblatt (a dental magazine) of Berlin and Brandenburg. Again, no match - but this does not discourage the investigators. In December 2009, the murder investigators contact the LKA in Saxony-Anhalt, they meet with a facial reconstruction expert in Magdeburg. Facial reconstructions are produced to help with her identification, the reconstructed face should and should resemble that of the woman as much as possible, while the hairstyle was freely chosen - the woman from Lake Bugsin finally has a face.

https://images.app.goo.gl/mgCkn5nmBiMwsW1v7

This is one of the many facial reconstructions, the other ones are on her Unidentified Wiki Page:

https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Alth%C3%BCttendorf_Jane_Doe

The investigators are not going to leave any leads untried. They have twice decided to have an isotope analysis performed at the Institute of Forensic Medicine in Munich, the test uses bones, hair, teeth and nails to determine where and how a person grew up and what their diet was in recent years.

"In March 2006, when the method was still relatively new, the experts found that the woman must have lived in an area close to the Romanian environment, as a child and a teenager," Trenn says in the report. The unknown woman from Lake Bugsin could therefore have lived in Romania or in areas close to the border of the former Yugoslavia.

"With this result, we started a public search in the Balkan countries and turned to Romania with a request for legal assistance," says the criminologist. However, there were not enough clues to help the Brandenburg homicide squad. Six years later, when the isotope analysis becomes more sophisticated, Trenn turns to the experts in Munich again. As expected, the result was more accurate.

“We can say that the woman was born in Romania, Yugoslavia or Greece. Everything also suggests that she spent the last three years of her life in Germany or Italy,” Trenn says. As he browses the database of missing persons from war zones in The Hague through Interpol, he has the Balkan war in mind. Result: negative - again.

Theories to investigate seem to be running out, Trenn provides a more classic, more common version: the unknown woman could be a foreign prostitute who was living illegally in Germany. Investigations in the red-light district of Barnim have revealed that no prostitutes are officially missing from the area. Perhaps, says Trenn, the woman was a lover, someone's concubine.

The main file on the murder case now comprises 13 volumes and there are various key folders with secondary leads and investigative information, four volumes contain the results of forensic analyses - in total there are thousands of sheets on the case.

There is a new investigative approach to the case: animal hair found in the duffel bag. Specialists from the Federal Criminal Police Office identified it as dog hair. "Maybe we can move forward," says the homicide investigator, without wanting to elaborate further.

Wolfhard Trenn says that the perpetrator did not make life easy for the investigators. "Water makes it incredibly difficult to identify a dead person" Now the investigators in Eberswalde are just hoping for a witness who recognizes the woman in the photos after so many years - somewhere, there must be someone wondering what happened to her sister, her best friend, her girlfriend, or even just her neighbor, the woman she exchanged a few words with that one time in the supermarket.

(sources: https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/mensch-metropole/seit-19-jahren-raetseln-brandenburger-ermittler-wer-ist-die-tote-aus-dem-seesack-li.317054

https://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/465ufdeu.html

https://www.bz-berlin.de/archiv-artikel/tote-im-see-gefunden

https://www.facebook.com/Vaunde/posts/26062004-unb-tote-in-bugsinsee-althuttendorf-brandenburggesch%C3%A4tztes-todesdatum-3/745557482569959/

https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Alth%C3%BCttendorf_Jane_Doe

https://web.archive.org/web/20040910173528/http://www.szczecin.kwp.gov.pl/poszukiwani/zag/index.php?id=168 )

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2024/11/06
14:16 UTC

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Chilling photo, but am I the only one who doubts this is the Tylenol killer?

8 Comments
2024/10/30
21:35 UTC

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Sister Roberta Elam was raped and strangled while praying near her convent. 47 years later, her killer's identity is still a mystery.

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2024/10/30
20:24 UTC

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What Unresolved Mystery Or Murder Case Would You Really Like To See Be Solved?

The Cases for me are:

Lauren Spierer.

Kelsie Schelling.

Emma Fillipoff.

Brianna Maitland.

Matrice Richardson.

Maura Murray.

Mary Pinchot Meyer.

What Unsolved/Unresolved Mysteries or Murder Cases fascinate you the most and why?

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2024/10/29
18:16 UTC

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What’s The Creepiest Unsolved Mystery Or Cold Case That Still Bothers You The Most And Why?

Do you think that these Cases will ever be solved?

214 Comments
2024/10/28
15:57 UTC

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What Do You Guys Think Really Happened To Natalie Wood?

I've been really fascinated by Natalie Wood and this case as a whole. I plan on buying some books to learn more about her. What books would you guys suggest I read about her? It's so tragic how she died and it's a shame that this case will probably never be solved.

83 Comments
2024/10/28
01:17 UTC

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Is there any way a regular person could assist in cold cases or unsolved murders from like decades ago or something similar?

I know there's some people who you would refer to as "internet" detectives that do this for the hell of it but only have evidence that's been released to the public. I'm not sure if this has been asked in this community or not but it could be a cool idea. With cases like the zodiac killers and Jack the Ripper, where both perpetrators are presumed to be deceased, these would be a good place to start. If they would choose a handful of trusted volunteers to do background checks on, etc. and could give them access to files and autopsy reports, persons of interest, etc. with supervision of course and see how far they get with solving it. A fresh pair of eyes might notice something they officers themselves have overlooked. I can see this benefiting aspiring homicide detectives and LEOs.

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2024/10/26
19:32 UTC

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What are your thoughts about the Suzy Lamplugh Case. Despite enough evidence, the accused walked free.

Suzy Lamplugh, a 25-year-old real estate agent, vanished in 1986 while showing a property in Fulham, London, leaving behind her parked car with her purse but no trace of her keys or any signs of struggle. She had reportedly gone to meet a client known only as "Mr. Kipper," but neither Suzy nor her supposed client was ever seen again. The investigation turned complex, with key suspect John Cannan emerging due to connections to the case, but solid evidence to charge him remained elusive. Despite intense media coverage and reinvestigations over the years, Suzy's disappearance remains one of the most haunting unsolved cases in the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WYbjLy-B04&t=89s

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2024/10/25
05:58 UTC

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On June 4th, 2010, 7-year-old Kyron Horman was last seen walking down the hallway of his Oregon school on science fair day, according to his stepmother. He has never been found.

63 Comments
2024/10/22
16:10 UTC

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Unsolved 1976 Cold Case of Barbara Lewis.

30 year old Barbara Jean Lewis lived in Penn Hills, a suburb 20 minutes East of Pittsburgh, PA. On the morning of November 19, 1976 she left for work around 6:15am, but did not make it to the bus stop only several feet away from her home. Whether she was forced into a vehicle, or willingly accepted a ride from an acquaintance is unknown. When she did not show for her secretarial job at Rockwell International in downtown Pittsburgh, her coworkers became alarmed.

Around 9am, a maid showed up to begin work at the Blackridge Civic Association, only a mile from Barbara’s home, she made the grim discovery of her body in a trash bin outside. She was still warm to the touch. Her hands were tied with one of her stockings and the belt to her overcoat. She had been manually strangled. Despite her bra being in disarray and her panties inside out, there was no evidence of sexual assault. There were no defensive wounds or bruises, and her mouth and nose were packed with gauze, which was believed to have been done post mortem. Her overcoat, blouse and purse were missing. They were later found in the woods by a schoolboy a mile and a half from where her body was discovered. In a time before DNA or doorbell cameras, police set up a check point, but unfortunately nobody heard or witnessed anything.

Police hit a dead end and her case still remains unsolved. There was a series of strangulation murders of women and girls in the area in the late 70s. A few were solved, decades later to advances in DNA technology. Hopefully with even more advances in forensic science and genealogical DNA-which helped solved the case of The Golden State Killer, Joseph DeAngelo, Barbara’s case can be finally solved. She was laid to rest in Good Shepherd Cemetery in Monroeville, PA.

Barbara lived a 1/4 from me, and I drive past the site where her body was discovered everyday. As a Girl Scout, I had events there; and I remember my mother telling about the girl who was kidnapped and found there. I often think about whether her case has been solved or if there have been new developments when I drive by.

7 Comments
2024/10/22
14:00 UTC

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Unsolved Murder or Suicide?

Hi there! This is my first time posting in this group but since my family first told me about this, it’s always bugged me. My great grandmother’s sister died at age 27 in her grocery store in a supposed suicide. The store was open and her young daughter and customer were in the store. They heard a gunshot and her daughter went back to check what happened before the police came. She died three hours later in a hospital. There was no note left and the only documentation I can find in her death on Ancestry is the newspaper story detailing her death which is where my information above comes from.

Now, she was divorced and supposedly seeing someone who was abusive at the time of her death and my great grandfather always said that the man who was her boyfriend at the time murdered her. Is there a way for me to find out more information on this? (She died in 1956 in Mississippi if that helps with the best way to go about finding more information)

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2024/10/22
00:10 UTC

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Adam Richard Johnson

Adam Richard Johnson was a lifelong Minnesota resident. Adam was 36yrs. and left behind 4 children. We are still seeking any and all information regarding Adam and or suspicious activity in and around NE Main street and University ave NE June 15, 16 & 17 2021 and West River Parkway and E Franklin Av

6 Comments
2024/10/21
18:12 UTC

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On October 24th, 1961, 4-year-old Lillian Risch returned home from a playdate to find a shocking scene. She went back to the neighbor's house to explain that, "Mommy's gone and the kitchen is covered with red paint." Joan Risch was never seen or heard from again.

7 Comments
2024/10/21
15:59 UTC

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