There have been a lot of these posts lately and there’s no nuance to answering them. Is the mod team open to programming an automod response + automatic removal for both scenarios?

Recent Examples:

https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1ffuzmk/is_the_game_dying_honest_question/

https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1fe6y3m/new_character_cannot_be_created/

Just letting you know the sub is still missing those user flairs. At least on the old.reddit side.

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There's a lot of simple questions I've noticed that just clog up the subreddit when sorting by New. It's kind of astounding really

I can't even make a make a serious topic without people ignoring it and choosing to just hurt me instead by bringing up things I've done long time ago or just misinformation.

I even fix my wording to not seem...umm not sure the word but people still find a way to attack me and just call me a troll and bring up off topic things and then my thread just gets removed. It's legitimately worse there than the ffxivdiscussion. Don't know if you noticed but I just completely just opt to not talk after my post because I just get attacked from things not even related to my post if I do comment.

I often feel the moderators pick on me too by just deleting my threats with zero explanations so I can improve my wording and topics. Or maybe they delete it for my sake I'm not sure... I notice when I do report things, specifically about people posts that's just aimed to out right to hurt me it gets removed and even without me reporting they get removed when they're just attacking my character and habits so maybe I shouldn't say mods are picking on me..sorry. Since I notice they actively remove comments like that.

I don't know. I'm quite aware that my threads is a lighting rod of negativity so I often think my threads get deleted for that reason unless there is a unspoken rule to not speak about how the community could be toxic? Or my threads sound to rage click? Not sure how to end this other than it's really bothering how people are just so mean to me even when I present things people agree with.

The same users continue post bait posts over and over. I would list user names but I am sure that is against the rules here.

Each time they are called out by almost everyone but nothing is being done to prevent it.

I browse Reddit from my iPhone’s web browser on safari, and whenever I try to check on r/ffxiv, the header loads, but none of the posts do and I’m stuck looking at Snoo forever.

Now normally I’d write this off as a me issue, but none of the other subreddits I’m browsing (including this one) are experiencing the same issue, it’s just r/ffxiv

Wanted to see if any other users are experiencing something similar, and raise awareness in case theres an issue somewhere on the subreddit’s end

If I'd like to post a FAQ for troubleshooting FFXIV-related networking stuff, that I could link to instead of writing a five paragraph response every day in the daily Q&A posts, would I need to do anything specific or can I just throw it up there in the main sub? Are there any particular rules concerns I might want to be aware of?

Thank you.

Hi friends,

You may have ended up here after noticing that /r/ffxiv is currently set to private. That's because our community is participating in a site-wide protest after reddit announced massive, unreasonable changes to their API. The changes will kill off most major 3rd party apps and significantly harm users who rely on those apps for moderation tools and accessibility features.

Over 3,000 subreddits (and counting!) have chosen to participate in this protest and after bringing the subject to our community, you all overwhelming voiced your support to participate as well.

As a result, /r/ffxiv will remain set to private until June 19th. On that day, we will reopen the subreddit in restricted mode in order to poll our community again and determine if you still wish to keep the blackout going. If the answer is yes, the subreddit will go private again for another 7 days and then we'll repeat the process.

In the meantime, we welcome you all to join our discord server! We've setup a special forum channel called #ffxiv-questions to act as a replacement for our popular Daily Questions thread. It has threaded replies for each individual question which should hopefully be a bit more familiar to those of you who prefer reddit over discord.

There have been many screenshots recently that have been heavily modded to change appearance, glamours, or quality of lighting. All of these are misleading to the flair "in-game screenshot" and often people asks questions how to obtain certain looks in game when actually it's impossible.

So I suggest adding "Modded screenshot" or something similar.

I hope this is the right place for this — I noticed several months ago that r/FFXIV stopped hiding posts I've downvoted. I thought this might be a global Reddit change but all the other subs I follow continue to hide posts, which makes me suspect it might be an issue with r/FFXIV's theme, or filtering, or something I can't adjust on my end. If anyone has any advice or insight on how to fix this, I'd really appreciate it — being able to easily hide posts this way is a nice QoL feature while browsing.

(I realize there's also the hide post link which I'll probably just end up using if there's no fix, but I thought it was still worthwhile calling this out since the behavior seems like a mistake.)

Let me preface this by saying I'm not an artist. I'm just an average user of the sub. I do not have an a-artist's mindset to bring to this discussion. Just an observer's.

Something like "Non-OC content only allowed on X day. Must include artist source. Users are limited to Y amount of Non-OC posts a day." I feel like it floods the reddit with a lot of artwork. At the moment I believe the artist source is required and I think just about everyone who posts non-OC art does a good job at following that rule. However, that said I think adding a few more rules might make finding discussions easier.

I just think it's a bit much when one specific user(s) can post Non-OC on a daily basis. Especially whenever it's clearly for karma farming purposes.

I primarily think that posting art from another person doesn't provide much in the way of discussion. If artists want to have their artwork posted they'll probably post where they would like it, especially since some artists do not like having their artwork reposted. Again, I'm not an artist so I can't speak for them but we have a "OC" tag for when they would like to.

I don't think Non-OC content should be completely banned, just limited to a specific day of the week with some regulations on how often you can post non-OC content that day would be nice. I believe the main final fantasy sub recently implemented a rule like this due to a feedback poll they did.

What are your thoughts on the matter? Also I apologize for any typos within this long post.

Come on mods, let's start not allowing these posts every time a lottery ends. They are the exact same and offer nothing for discussion.

I am not sharing names to avoid witch-hunting.

There are a couple regular posters that make threads that are obviously bait. They lost regularly and their follow up comments make it obvious their intent. It seems like common trolls are allowed to run rampant.

Hello!

Is the "Daily Questions" thread on the main subreddit deliberately not being updated or something amiss with it?

Ex, this one's still up as of Sept 29 at 8 AM EST: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/xpbbgb/daily_questions_faq_megathread_sep_27/

That thread should never have been allowed to stay up. Now we have the other side of the story and clearly the healer post was lying for some reason.

When no moderation occurs these type of posts happen.

Can clear institutional policies against harassment reduce its prevalence in a community? And what side effect (if any) do they have on freedom of expression?

In 2019, the CAT Lab team worked with moderators and community members of r/ffxiv to test the effect on newcomers of sticky comments that list community rules. This study was a replication of a 2016 study with r/science (you can read it here in PNAS). We now have results in r/ffxiv, as well as two other communities who tested the ideas in parallel.

In this thread, we're sharing the results to discuss the preliminary analysis. This is a space for you to ask questions, interpret the results, and discuss how (or if) these results should influence what the community does next.

I'll be available all day to field questions. We will compile what we learn from this conversation when writing up and submitting the results for peer review with an academic publication. Thanks!

Resources:

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What we did with r/ffxiv

Starting in July 2019, our software observed when new posts were made and assigned discussions to receive either a sticky comment with the rules or no sticky comment at all. We then measured how many newcomer accounts commented and whether the first comment from newcomers was removed by moderators or not.

The message read:

Threads on bad experiences with other players (even anonymous) as well as hate-based comments such as personal attacks, bigotry, hate speech, and name shaming are subject to removal by the moderator team under rule 1. Please report any rule violations; the moderator team will review them as soon as possible.

What we learned

In r/ffxiv, we did not observe an effect on newcomer rule compliance from posting the rules.

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Posting Rules increases newcomer norm compliance in Reddit communities on average, across four studies over four years

Across all subreddits on average, posting the rules increased the chance that first-time commenters would follow the rules. However, r/science was the only community with a statistically-significant effect both times. Why were these different? Looking back at the data, we think it may be because so few newcomer comments are removed in the subreddit for rule violations— either because violations are rare or moderators rarely remove violating comments.

What effect did the sticky comment have on newcomer participation? While newcomer comments increased in the first r/science study in 2016, we did not find an affect on levels of newcomer participation in the follow-up studies. We discuss possible reasons for this in the post.

Finally, we found that the effect on moderator workload depended largely on whether the intervention increased newcomer participation or not.

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It's because Dall-E 2 has begun its semi-open beta phase, gradually inviting everyone who subbed in to their beta. I got invited last week, my friends got invited yesterday.

So people are checking in, putting prompts of their characters, and then forgetting about the AI.

People are seeing those posts, getting inspired, making their own, then forgetting about the AI.

It's a trend that will fade over time much like the portrait spam, I see no necessity to ban them.

There have been more than enough threads on the subject it's time to enforce the subreddit rules.

I don't particularly care about the portraits themselves, but I was under the impression that the moderation team was against sharing in-game names of other players, especially when the content of the post could be viewed negatively by other people.

I genuinely came to the subreddit today going "oh that's cute, i love" and then realized some time after that it was part of the april fools CSS graffiti

just my 2c. i like them a lot more than the moogles

My meme got removed because of rule 4C. It was a meme I created specifically for FFXIV, about FFXIV, and was removed because the FFXIV part about it was subtle. The joke would work without the title or caption, and be recognized as an FFXIV meme still. It got over 3500 upvotes before being removed.

The meme in question:

https://i.redd.it/kvgbj6j516o81.png

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/th4sha/thomas_the_tank_engine_has_other_jobs_too/

The joke wouldn't work at all with the class icons slapped on it, and even without the title and caption, posted into an FFXIV context people would recognize and get the joke.

So having seen 3 posts in 24 hours removed for “repetitive” (3-line journals), can we have more consistency so FFXIV has more “unique” content? I mean it’s hard because of the numbers involved, so if we just let everyone post something about the game that brings them joy, we’ll be drowning in an endless morass of the same pedestrian boring stuff over and over. To help clean up some of the other overly repetitive things, a helpful list of post types that should be removed because they show up over and over:

1. a complete ban on generic fanart of characters, especially miquote or au ra. They all look the same, and really repetitious. Clearly, that art style has been done. So unless it’s an actual unique style (like say, ala bill sienkiewicz on the New Mutants) no more WOL fanart.

2. no scion fanart. I feel this needs no explanation. It’s a daily occurrence.

3. any posts about the awful changes to classes that any update brings. Yes, yes, your life is ruined because of this change, we get it, move on

4. license issues. So common and mundane, and that’s a squeenix issue.

5. the word “squeenix”, so plebeian.

6. complaining about savage raid n00bs

7. if someone wants to post a screenshot of their WOL, I feel their post history should be searched to make sure this isn’t a repeat. At least the class should differ. Two posts of the same class? One’s gotta go, repetition after all.

Adding these to the list will drastically cut down on repetitive posts.

Or, the mods could accept that given the scale of the FFXIV player base, repetition of literally every post, regardless of content, is going to happen and maybe just let people share their damned joy, because it’s not like we have a surfeit of that.

They have been getting out of hand, but this last one has an entire paragraph written out in smaller font. This is always the sign of a meme being dead-horsed.

Maybe a month long ban, to give people time to regain their god damn senses.

Every expansion brings more and more of these posts about players getting their jobs to max level. They are all identical and add nothing to the subreddit in terms of discussion.

For the past couple days there have been many threads of players just posting their character because of the specific race. In particular Elezen but that isn't as important as the volume of posts.

Going forward into Endwalker, will we start seeing more moderation of threads to consolidate repeated posts? I know we are in the lull before the storm of the expansion, but there have been so many duplicate posts that it makes the subreddit frustrating to visit.

This isn't just about the race posts. But also question posts that get asked multiple times a day such as "how do I level another job", "look at all my 80 jobs", and so on.

It would be nice to see some more firm moderation about duplicate posts going forward.

r/ffxiv is pretty much exclusively fan art and memes at this point and it seems pretty clear that that's what people want it to be. I have completely stopped visiting the sub as a result. Is there another sub that has actual game content such as expansion discussion, news, job discussions, speculations, etc or has all of that been silo'd into discord communities?

I cannot access the minibar that has the

User (upvotes) | Messages | Chat | Mod | Preferences | Logout

buttons, new layout sends them all the way to up to my subreddit bar

Thanks, new looks look cool

What's the point of these posts on the mainsub? They are irrelevant to XIV and I don't come to /r/ffxiv to see WoW posts

I know, WoW bad, FFIXV good, as a WoW refugee this is the best game ever etc. I just don't see why they can't be banned. I always downvote and report them because as a peasant you can't do anymore (see the rule: All content should be FFXIV-related and/or on-topic.)

And the comments are ALL about WoW. Even if someone pastes a XIV related element to the picture, or the title implies that, people are still talking about WoW. There is no discussion about XIV at all. I don't get why they are not removed. If people want to talk about WoW there are certainly better places than /r/ffxiv

And it will be just worse after EW. Cause guess nothing will happen with them

I miss the little text box that appeared on "Other" to write what your problem is. Is there a way to activate the writing option alongside the new reporting options? (eg reporting for breaking sub rules > unmarked spoiler > writing that it's a 4.0 spoiler).

I feel it would help when the reason for the report is not directly clear.