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We read through Noam Chomsky books; academic journals and articles; contemporary books of interest in same spirit as Chomsky.

This subreddit will be used for a variety of reading projects. We will always be reading through a book of Chomsky. The current one will be stickied on the top. Come in and feel free to ask questions, comment, debate, etc. There is no well-defined reading schedule for these. Ideally, every day, I'll add an academic article or magazine article or paper that Chomsky has referred to. These topics will jump around, so join into the ones you're interested in. We'll also be reading contemporary books of interest; in the same spirit as Chomsky.

Informal discussions welcome, but head over to /r/chomsky for more attention/responses.

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Do you want peace in Ukraine?

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2022/10/06
10:18 UTC

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Does the United States' government intentionally create chaos to see what they can gain from it?

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2022/09/29
22:48 UTC

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Prolegomenon to undermining the foundations/fundamentals of science

Prolegomenon to undermining the foundations/fundamentals of science

http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com/wp-content/uploads/undermining-the-foundations-of-science.pdf

or

https://www.scribd.com/document/591616840/Prolegomenon-to-Undermining-the-Foundations-of-Science

The greatest scholar of our time Magister colin leslie dean

Magister colin leslie dean the only modern Renaissance man with 9 degrees including 4 masters: B,Sc, BA, B.Litt(Hons), MA, B.Litt(Hons), MA, MA (Psychoanalytic studies), Master of Psychoanalytic studies, Grad Cert (Literary studies)

"[Deans] philosophy is the sickest, most paralyzing and most destructive thing that has ever originated from the brain of man."

"[Dean] lay waste to everything in its path... [It is ] a systematic work of destruction and demoralization... In the end it became nothing but an act of sacrilege.

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2022/09/04
10:32 UTC

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If you had to, which solution would you support for the Levant?

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2022/08/28
03:54 UTC

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Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics Book II - put in my own words, my notes & reflections

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2022/07/23
19:11 UTC

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science is a mythology

The greatest scholar of our time Magister colin leslie dean

Magister colin leslie dean the only modern Renaissance man with 9 degrees including 4 masters: B,Sc, BA, B.Litt(Hons), MA, B.Litt(Hons), MA, MA (Psychoanalytic studies), Master of Psychoanalytic studies, Grad Cert (Literary studies)

"[Deans] philosophy is the sickest, most paralyzing and most destructive thing that has ever originated from the brain of man."

"[Dean] lay waste to everything in its path... [It is ] a systematic work of destruction and demoralization... In the end it became nothing but an act of sacrilege."

All products of human thought end in meaninglessness-even Zen nihilism absurdism existentialism all philosophy post-modernism Post-Postmodernism critical theory etc mathematics science etc

science is a mythology

just beacuse science works does not mean the theory behind it is true

Some theories/myths which were considered true in science and are now not true-myths

• The transition in cosmology from a Ptolemaic cosmology to a Copernican one.

• The transition in optics from geometrical optics to physical optics.

• The transition in mechanics from Aristotelian mechanics to classical mechanics.

• The acceptance of the theory of biogenesis, that all life comes from life, as opposed to the theory of spontaneous generation, which began in the 17th century and was not complete until the 19th century with Pasteur.

• The acceptance of the work of Andreas Vesalius,whose work De humani corporis fabrica corrected the numerous errors in the previously-held system created by Galen.

• The transition between the Maxwellian Electromagnetic worldview and the Einsteinian Relativistic worldview.

• The transition between the worldview of Newtonian physics and the Einsteinian Relativistic worldview.

• The development of quantum mechanics, which replaced classical mechanics at microscopic scales.

• The acceptance of plate tectonics as the explanation for large-scale geologic changes.

• The development of absolute dating.

• The acceptance of Lavoisier's theory of chemical reactions and combustion in place of phlogiston theory, known as the Chemical Revolution.

• The acceptance of Mendelian inheritance, as opposed to pangenesis in the early 20th century

you say science is a process

Now we have two choices

  1. is science at an end-no more to learn no new theories

Or

  1. is science still evolving

Most would say science is still evolving

Thus

we will have a 2200 century theory B evolving-by a process - out of 2100 century theory A

that means in terms of new theory B theory A is not true

thus

2100 century theory A is a myth

Also what is a myth is the scientific method The scientific method is a myth

links to scientific method is a myth

scientific method is a myth https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=scientific+method+a+myth

"The so-called scientific method is a myth"

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/the-scientific-method-is-a-myth

or again

"There are too many different fields of science for there to be just one single scientific method that all scientists follow."

https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/images/434-no-single-scientific-method

thus science is a mythology

The-Anthropology-of-science

(science is a mythology)

http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com/wp-content/uploads/The-Anthropology-of-science.pdf

or

https://www.scribd.com/document/512683685/Prolegomenon-to-The-Anthropology-of-Science

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2022/04/14
10:10 UTC

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New interview with Noam chomsky about truth and unity in 2020,psychedelics and COVID-19

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2020/09/23
23:30 UTC

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Noam Chomsky: Linguistics, SETI, Academic Freedom, & Artificial Intelligence

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2020/07/25
00:43 UTC

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The Essential Chomsky

Hi, this may be a dumb question, but which writings are included in "The Essential Chomsky"? I know Hegermony or survival, failed states, manufacturing consent, understanding power, is included but are there more?

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2020/04/24
10:34 UTC

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Recommendations for Graduate Programs in History/Government/Politics that support Chomsky?

I've heard the New School https://www.newschool.edu/ mentioned in quite a few places. I believe David Harvey teaches there as well as Richard Wolff. Does anyone know of other graduate programs that won't punish you for trying to master left wing perspectives?

I considered the Harvard Kennedy School, but I expect it's full of Capitalist cheerleaders.

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2019/03/22
10:03 UTC

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Discussion: The 51 Day War by Max Blumenthal

This is a discussion thread for

The 51 Day War by Max Blumenthal

Feel free to ask any questions you have, any interesting quotes or sources, topics you'd like to look further into, or any thoughts you have!

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2019/02/07
01:30 UTC

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Summary of the first volume of Abdullah Öcalan's Manifesto for a Democratic Civilization

I entered into this expecting an introduction to democratic confederalism. I've been fascinated by the Kurds' democratic experiment for about a year now; it's a shame it will likely be ground to dust with the US leaving Syria.

Anyways, this is not as much a discussion of democratic confederalism as it is an overview of how we've reached the present, an era Öcalan terms "capitalist modernity." Though he wrote this and the following four volumes in solitary confinement, and thus had no access to books for footnotes, it's apparent that Öcalan has a brilliant mind and strong memory. He pulls from Foucault, Weber, Bookchin, Nietzsche, etc., with no difficulty. I assume the editors handled the footnotes for him.

I'll drop some emails I've sent to u/TissueBoxesofFun and another friend.

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The Kurds were specially positioned for an anarchist-like system of organization, given that they were surrounded on all sides by enemies. It was much more suitable to their purposes to build democracy inside enemy turf—without their own state—than to attempt to create a nation-state. Thus, the most interesting political experiment in recent memory was to some degree a coincidence.

This first volume analyzes the origins of civilization and sees Ocalan tying those origins to the present world: a world living under what he calls “capitalist modernity.” Much of the text is him musing over his favorite thinkers. Nietzsche, Foucault, Bookchin, and others are all borrowed from and analyzed here. I found it instructive and thought-provoking.

I am a bit disappointed there’s no outright discussion of democratic confederalism. This is saved for volume three, which I intend to read. Nonetheless the libertarian socialist spirit is sprinkled on each page, and it is enjoyable to see it applied to a myriad of topics that usually wouldn’t receive that treatment.

Ocalan also says the Kurds have direct ties to the earliest Aryan culture. This has aroused some anger and doubt. I’ll have to research it.

His insistence that science is the new religion—clearly a nod to Foucault and some anarchists—struggles with his insistence that we must envision a more meaningful science and a more meaningful way of life, i.e. one that is again purposed for understanding, in his own words, “the meaning of life,” and not the pursuit of wealth. Science has become a great tool for capitalist modernity, but this does not mean it can’t be valuable for humanitarian aims under different structuring. I’m glad there’s some balance here.

The answer to this problem and others is for him a new model of human organization and a new way of thinking that account for human intuition/creativity, justice, and the scientific method. Scientific socialism failed because it did not envision a world outside capitalist modernity; rather, it became an accomplice to it. The same can be said of the USSR, communist experiments in Europe, etc. What should we have learned from these failures? Ocalan argues that they rested on false premises derived from the capitalist superstructure. “Knowledge is Power,” and so on.

I’m looking forward to the journey. Though I feel he pontificates on anything and everything he can, and it doesn’t always relate to the book’s core theme, he is an articulate and creative thinker. The fruits of his work can of course be seen in Syria, where the Kurds have pulled off something impressive. I’ll be much sadder when they get stomped after the US pulls out now. However, I cannot help but consider this hopeful point: if the Kurds are able to organize democratically in the midst of a civil war nearly every major power has a stake in, who’s to say these democratic methods can’t be applied to most situations? It could be that they are superior to the traditionally accepted idea of kill the king and take the crown. Like Stirner points out, it’s much more effective to skip the nonsense and take what’s needed. Why worry about the institutions? Discredit them, protect yourself, and guard yourself against them. There’s no need to overthrow them if our aims are achieved by working underneath them. Democracy will weaken them to the point they’re futile.

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I went into this expecting a discussion of democratic confederalism and the Kurds. While there is some of that, Ocalan’s primary focus is explaining the ancient roots of the current world, a world living under what he terms capitalist modernity. He begins with Sumer and Egypt, explaining how the ziggurat became the first mass collective, top-down labor system. This had considerable and lasting effects. It was a system not defined by tribalism but instead dynasties. It paved the way for true political power. It enslaved women, who had previously been the beneficiaries to a matrilineal system. It gave power to trade. It made religion a more unifying moral system for a nation-state—as opposed to a collection of beliefs that might vary from tribe to tribe.

Though there have been unique experiments—the Greco-Roman model with its emphasis on philosophy, the Abrahamic religions with their upending of the top-down structure, etc.—everything that has since existed was/is largely cut from the Neolithic cloth. Why have women remained subservient? Because for thousands of years now they have been treated as property for the advancement of a power system which put(s) hierarchy and order above the previously known, freer, and more spontaneous model of tribal living. This enslavement system suffered a defeat with Rome’s fall and Christianity and Islam’s ascendance. Though they provided ideological security, they were not suited for continuing the materialist advance under previous civilizations. This paved the way for capitalist modernity to take root in Europe.

Ocalan combines anthropology, sociology, and history for his conclusions. He isn’t afraid to muse on his favorite authors (Foucault, Nietzsche, Bookchin, Weber, and others), but it’s always with the purpose to explain how we have reached today.
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2019/02/04
00:11 UTC

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Discussion: The Last Colonial Massacre, by Greg Grandin

We will be reading

The Last Colonial Massacre by Greg Grandin

Feel free to post anything you found interesting, any questions or concerns you might have, or anything else relevant which intrigues you!

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2019/01/12
19:54 UTC

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Mao's China and After: Reading Schedule

We are reading

Mao's China and After by Maurice Meisner

over at the r/chomsky discord.

We are reading it over the course of two months. This will be the place to post all the notes you've taken, and for more in-depth discussion.

Friday, Jan 18: Chapters 1-10

Friday, Feb 1: Chapters 11-17

Friday, Feb 22: Chapters 18-23

I look forward to seeing us participate!

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2019/01/12
19:51 UTC

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Yemen in Crisis: Autocracy, Neo-Liberalism and the Disintegration of a State | Helen Lackner

Discussion thread for Lackner's book.

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2018/07/29
19:25 UTC

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Before the Next Bomb Drops

This is a discussion thread for

Before the Next Bomb Drops by Remi Kanazi

Feel welcome to bring up anything you found interesting, your general thoughts, criticisms, etc.

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2018/05/20
23:50 UTC

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Discussion: Hegemony or Survival - Noam Chomsky

This is a discussion post for

Hegemony or Survival by Noam Chomsky

Here’s a pdf of the first edition, 2003.

Feel welcome to bring up anything you found interesting, your general thoughts, criticisms, etc.

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2018/05/20
21:57 UTC

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Discussion: Empire of Illusion by Chris Hedges

This is a discussion post for

Empire of Illusion by Chris Hedges

Feel welcome to bring up anything you found interesting, your general thoughts, criticisms, etc.

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2018/03/26
02:32 UTC

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Discussion: Jacobin 28: The Health of Nations

This is a discussion post for

Jacobin Issue 28: The Health of Nations

Unfortunately, I will not post an ebook version of this issue. If you really want one, PM me.

Feel welcome to bring up anything you found interesting, your general thoughts, criticisms, etc. You need not have read the entire issue; you can comment on a specific article that is within this volume.

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2018/03/14
04:02 UTC

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Discussion: Killing Hope, Chapters 43-56

This is the first discussion thread for

Killing Hope by William Blum

Chapters 43-56: Friday, March 2

Link to the book.

Feel welcome to bring up anything you found interesting, your general thoughts, criticisms, etc.

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2018/03/05
15:43 UTC

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Discussion: Killing Hope, Chapters 22-42

This is the first discussion thread for

Killing Hope by William Blum

Chapters 22-42: Saturday, February 24

Link to the book.

Feel welcome to bring up anything you found interesting, your general thoughts, criticisms, etc.

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2018/02/23
16:19 UTC

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Discussion: Killing Hope, Chapters 01-21

This is the first discussion thread for

Killing Hope by William Blum

Chapters 01-21: Sunday, February 18

Link to the book.

Feel welcome to bring up anything you found interesting, your general thoughts, criticisms, etc.

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2018/02/18
01:14 UTC

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Reading Schedule: Killing Hope by William Blum

This is a reading schedule for

Killing Hope by William Blum

Chapters 01-21: Sunday, February 18

Chapters 22-42: Saturday, February 24

Chapters 43-56: Friday, March 2

Killing Hope is not necessarily the type of book you'd like to sit down and tear through in one sitting. There's a lot of information to take in and not everyone reads at the same pace. It should take maybe 25-30 pages each day to stay on schedule, giving one time to even read through some source material if they'd like. Discussion posts will be created a day before the official discussion date.

I hope to see a lot of us participating!

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2018/02/13
05:36 UTC

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Discussion: Rogue State by William Blum

This is a discussion post for

Rogue State by William Blum

Feel welcome to bring up anything you found interesting, your general thoughts, criticisms, etc.

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2018/02/11
07:30 UTC

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Chomsky's Recommended Books

By category:

Israel/Palestine and the Middle East:

The Iron Wall by Avi Shlaim

Israel/Palestine: How to End the War of 1948 by Tanya Reinhart

The Birth of Israel: Myths and Realities by Simha Flapan

Between the Lines: Israel, the Palestinians, and the U.S. War on Terror by Tikva Honig-Parnass

Al-Qaeda: Casting a Shadow of Terror by Jason Burke

Defending the Holy Land: A Critical Analysis of Israel's Security and Foreign Policy by Zeev Maoz

Defeat: Why America and Britain Lost Iraq by Jonathon Steele

A Different Kind of War: The Un Sanctions Regime in Iraq by Hans. C. Von Sponeck

American Foreign Policy:

Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II by William Blum

How America Gets Away with Murder: Illegal Wars, Collateral Damage and Crimes Against Humanity by Michael Mandel

The Deaths of Others: The Fate of Civilians in America's Wars by John Turnam

Talking to the Enemy: Faith, Brotherhood, and the (Un)Making of Terrorists by Scott Atran

The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade by Alfred W. McCoy

Ideal Illusions: How the U.S. Government Co-opted Human Rights by James Peck

War Stars: The Superweapon and the American Imagination by Howard Bruce Franklin

Next Time They’ll Come to Count the Dead: War and Survival in South Sudan by Nick Turse

Tomorrow's Battlefield : U.S. Proxy Wars and Secret Ops in Africa by Nick Turse

The Violent American Century: War and Terror Since World War II by John Dower

Command and Control: Nuclear Weapons, the Damascus Accident, and the Illusion of Safety by Eric Schlosser

The Hungry World: America's Cold War Battle Against Poverty in Asia by Nick Cullather

Media and Propaganda:

Propaganda by Edward Bernays

The Record of the Paper: How the New York Times Misreports US Foreign Policy by Richard A. Falk

The Real Terror Network: Terrorism in Fact and Propaganda by Edward Herman

The Politics of Genocide by Edward Herman

Taking the Risk Out of Democracy: Corporate Propaganda versus Freedom and Liberty by Alex Carey

American History and Culture:

A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn

Voices of a People's History of the United States by Anthony Arnove and Howard Zinn

Political Repression in Modern America: FROM 1870 TO 1976 by Robert Justin Goldstein

No is Not Enough: Resisting Trump's Shock Politics and Winning the World We Need by Naomi Klein

The Industrial Worker, 1840-1860: The Reaction of American Industrial Society to the Advance of the Industrial Revolution by Norman Ware

Violent Politics: A History of Insurgency, Terrorism, and Guerrilla War, from the American Revolution to Iraq by William R. Polk

With Liberty and Justice for Some: How the Law is Used to Destroy Equality and Protect the Powerful by Glenn Greenwald

Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild

The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism by Edward Baptist

The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander

Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II by Douglas A. Blackmon

Inferno: The World at War, 1939-1945 by Max Hastings

The Politics of War: Allied Diplomacy and the World Crisis of 1943-1945 by Gabriel Kolko

Labor History:

The Fall of the House of Labor by David Montgomery

The Anarchist Collectives: Workers' Self-Management in the Spainish Revolution 1936-39 by Sam Dolgoff

Selling Free Enterprise: The Business Assault on Labor and Liberalism, 1945-60 by Elizabeth A. Fones-Wolf

Wobblies of the World: A Global History of the IWW by Peter Cole, David Struthers, and Kenyon Zimmer

Anarchism, Philosophy, and Science:

The State: Its Origin and Function by William Paul

The Limits of State Action by Wilhelm von Humboldt

Progress Without People: In Defense of Luddism by David F. Noble

Granny Made Me an Anarchist: General Franco, The Angry Brigade and Me by Stuart Christie

Fashionable Nonsense: Postmodern Intellectuals' Abuse of Science by Alan Sokal

Beyond the Hoax: Science, Philosophy and Culture by Alan Sokal

A Theory of Power by Jeff Vail

Workers' Councils by Anton Pannekoek'

On Anarchism by Mikhail Bakunin

Capitalism and Political Economy:

Democracy at Work: A Cure for Capitalism by Richard Wolff

Das Kapital by Karl Marx

Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith

Affluence and Influence: Economic Inequality and Political Power in America by Martin Gilens

America Beyond Capitalism by Gar Alperovitz

The ABCs of Political Economy: A Modern Approach by Robert Hahnel

Golden Rule: The Investment Theory of Party Competition and the Logic of Money-Driven Political Systems by Thomas Ferguson

The Conservative Nanny State: How the Wealthy Use the Government to Stay Rich and Get Richer by Dean Baker

Unequal Democracy: The Political Economy of the New Gilded Age by Larry M. Bartels

Understanding Capitalism: Critical Analysis From Karl Marx to Amartya Sen by Douglas Down

Whose Crisis, Whose Future?: Towards a Greener, Fairer, Richer World by Susan George

Business as Usual: The Economic Crisis and the Failure of Capitalism by Paul Mattock Jr.

Adam Smith and His Legacy for Modern Capitalism by Patricia H. Werhane

Greening the Global Economy by Robert Pollin

Capitalism: A Ghost Story by Arundhati Roy

Bad Samaritans: The Myth of Free Trade and the Secret History of Capitalism by Ha-Joon Chang

Miscellaneous:

Controlling the Dangerous Classes by Randall G. Shelden

Pedagogy of the Opressed by Paulo Freire

The Verso Book of Dissent: From Spartacus to the Shoe-Thrower of Baghdad by Andrew Hsiao

Don't Mourn, Balkanize!: Essays After Yugoslavia by Andrej Grubačić

Field Notes on Democracy: Listening to Grasshoppers by Arundhati Roy

Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell

Voices from the Plain of Jars: Life under an Air War by Fred Branfman

We by Yevgeny Zamyatin

In Praise of Barbarians by Mike Davis

Damming the Flood by Peter Hallward

This list is by no means perfect and is missing books. I could go through the list sometime and hyperlink each book to where they are recommended by Chomsky if it is desired, but a quick google search should reveal.

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2017/12/21
22:01 UTC

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Discussion: A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn

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2017/12/09
14:18 UTC

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Discussion: Chasing the Scream by Johann Hari

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2017/12/09
14:17 UTC

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Discussion: Global Discontents by Noam Chomsky with David Barsamian

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2017/12/09
14:16 UTC

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