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What I've seen in Chomsky's talks/books/biographies:
Tolstoy, War and Peace and Proust (Kindle and Reading video)
Mohammed Hanif, A Case of Exploding Mangoes (in Power Systems)
Dostoyevsky, The Grand Inquisitor (can't remember where but said it was about the manufacture of consent) and The Brothers Karamazov (Bev Stohl says he gave her a copy of BK)
He also references Orwell frequently, but thinks 1984 and Animal Farm were his worst works
According to Robert Barsky, Chomsky read Austen, Dickens, Dostoyevsky, Eliot, Hardy, Hugo, Tolstoy, Turgenev, Twain and Zola as a child.
With Chomsky nearing the end of his life, I'm wondering who else I can follow on yt or in print to further my education on American imperialism, civic engagement, and finding hope in America in times like this.
Cheers!
I'm trying to compile a list: Radiohead, REM, Rage Against the Machine, Julian Casablancas, etc.
I think it's important to note that Marx was not only an economist but a philosopher. He was a Young Hegelian before he became the philosopher we know today as the founder of Marxism. For me, as someone who has a BA in philosophy, Marx was never a solely "horizontal" thinker. The theme of alienation, understanding which I think is vital to the proper interpretation of Marx (as someone who is admittedly not a Marxist, communist, or anarchist) has a precursor in Hegel. Any serious philosopher is going to be conscious of the existence of alienation. For Hegel, the concept of alienation appears in the master and slave dialectic. Hegel was a bit abstruse on this point, and is considered an influence on fascism as well as communism.
I think it's worth noting that, as someone who lived and attended grade school for eight years in a red state (Georgia), alternative leftist political ideologies, especially communism, with its willingness to use political violence (does the end justify the means or not?), are not popular among red state Democrats. Did the left become fragmented as a result of its pronounced interest in Marx, Marxism, and communism? I think it did, I think that's your answer to the question, "How could we have lost?" It's nobody's responsibility to be perpetually politically correct, but I don't think a deep dive into communism is likely to appeal to either mainstream Republicans or a even a lot of mainstream Democrats.
The concept of alienation is one that is common between democracy and, ostensibly, communism. Alienation is an evil to be avoided. But I also think the contradiction should be obvious between the aversion to alienation and the willingness to use violent means to achieve the toppling of corrupt governments. The (neoconservative) political philosopher and scholar of the history of philosophy and of political philosophy, Leo Strauss, posits in Democracy Ancient and Modern that liberalism and communism do share the goal of a universal and classless society. I think this is related to Marx's noted emphasis on alienation as an evil.
In my view, Marx's intuition about alienation was spot-on, and I think for that reason, and because Marx was not only an economist and political theorist but a philosopher, that Marx may have viewed communism as a potential insulation against fascism and other corrupt and violent forms of government. I'm not too familiar with Marx and don't claim to know for sure that he was above using violence to achieve political goals, in fact I seriously doubt that was the case. But I think the question of whether communism shouldn't be an insulation against corrupt forms of government such as fascism or otherwise racist or classist governments, and by extension an aid to the cause of global democracy.
In my view, democracy (considered in ideality, not necessarily in practice) is the most stable and fairest and freest form of government. Its value is inherent in its definition: government by the people. Albert Einstein posited that there should be a world government. Sounds dystopian on the surface, but the fruit of that concept was the United Nations, which is exactly what was needed at the time. To me, democracy is the closest thing to utopia and true anarchy that we have. Democracy recognizes, in theory, the lives, rights, and livelihood of all people. In this election we became, on the other hand, obsessed with delving into alternative ideologies less stable and more prone to violence. I think that is why we lost the election.
Leo Tolstoy: Slavery Exists Among Us | The Slavery of Our Times (1900) | [wage slavery]
Slavery exists in full vigor, but we do not perceive it, just as in Europe at the end of the Eighteenth Century the slavery of serfdom was not perceived.
People of that day thought that the position of men obliged to till the land for their lords, and to obey them, was a natural, inevitable, economic condition of life, and they did not call it slavery.
It is the same among us: people of our day consider the position of the laborer to be a natural, inevitable economic condition, and they do not call it slavery. And as, at the end of the Eighteenth Century, the people of Europe began little by little to understand that what formerly seemed a natural and inevitable form of economic life-namely, the position of peasants who were completely in the power of their lords-was wrong, unjust and immoral, and demanded alteration, so now people today are beginning to understand that the position of hired workmen, and of the working classes in general, which formerly seemed quite right and quite normal, is not what it should be, and demands alteration.
I would be curious to know if there's been any update regarding Mr. Chomsky's health.
Gun nut reading Power Systems in Netflix series The Madness😁🤷🏻♂️
Funny how they have all vanished after the election.
In a small tent amidst the rubble of what remains of Gaza's homes, my family and I live with our daily suffering, which has become our companion at every moment. We are 27 people in a tent that cannot protect us from the harsh winter cold. The cold strikes us day and night, and as the winds grow stronger, the pain in our weakened bodies intensifies, especially in the small children who know nothing of life but hunger and pain. It has been 9 days since we last tasted the flavor of bread, that simple thing that used to be a basic part of our lives, but now it has become a distant dream. Since the siege, we have only received rice and canned food like beans, peas, and chickpeas. With every meal, we feel weakness creeping into our bodies, and in the eyes of the children, there is a gleam of fear—not just from the hunger of today, but from the uncertainty of tomorrow. The children scream at night from the cold, clinging to each other in search of an imaginary warmth that this worn-out tent cannot provide. There is no electricity or heating, and the cold cuts through their bones, increasing their pain and our anxiety. Every time I try to reassure them that the dawn will bring us a new hope, those words are the last I can say, because deep in my heart, I have no hope left. The children's health is steadily deteriorating due to weak immunity caused by the lack of food and its poor quality, and the days pass on us like a punishment. Under this siege, our lives have become nothing but waiting for a slow death. But we cannot give up because we know the children need us, and there is no choice but to try to survive, no matter the circumstances.
We are not only asking for survival, but for the determination to overcome this never-ending pain. We demand the freedom we lost, and the dignity that was destroyed by the bombing and destruction. All we need is a little support to stay alive, as the world watches, knowing nothing of our suffering except silence. But here we are, shouting loudly in the face of this darkness, hoping someone will hear us.
I'm going to pick part 2 back up with a few pages from The Israel Project manual and finish with the Hasbara Handbook manual that we started with.
Focus and intent.
They're instructed to focus on "Persuadables", meaning people who can be persuaded, and categorize people into 3 buckets:
The first two are versions of people that Israel wants to project into reality. This is very dangerous, as it's part of a constant stream of brainwashing this extreme fallacy into the brains of the general mass. If you're for Israel, you must always be for Israel? If you're against Israel, they will always be against Israel, and in effectively, against the people in bucket 1. Do you see what happened?
If someone identifies as a supporter of Israel, they have no other option but bucket 1. They are for Israel, and always will be. In matters of the state, there shouldn't be any citizens that are with the state, no matter what, and always will be. And it's written from a first person perspective - "Us" is used. They're against us. This is done to personalize and humanize Israel, providing it an identity to protect. And it's done to create a dichotomy, us, and we have an enemy, someone who is against us, against Israel, and always will be.
This mindset is needed when you're training "advocates" in the methods we've seen so far. Descriptive language is used, such as "attack." And it's used repeatedly, and in multiple ways. "We're being attacked", people "attack" Jews, "verbal attacks", "rocket attacks", etc., and so when the manual instructs the Israel advocate to "attack" others, it doesn't feel out of place.
And the same is found for any other provocative words that you can think of. The word "Terror" is one manual 136 times, and the other 137 times. And so on down the list.
I'm sharing a few pages of the next section to give an idea of how they're focusing on the language used, from their government spokespeople, politicians, in print/TV media, and online. That's why it's never an attack by Israel or anyone killed by Israel. There will never be a massacre by Israel. When Israel killed 1400 Palestinians in 2014, it was a skirmish. When Palestinians killed 1200 Israelis in 2023, it was the worst massacre since the Holocaust. And once accusations of genocide by Israel were made - you guessed it - it was a genocide against Israel. The Palestinians are trying to commit genocide against the Israelis.
Words matter. A lot. The devil is in the details. AI is going to incorporate that every time, so it's important that we pay attention to the words used, and correct them to the appropriate words as needed.
The way things are phrased always have another shoe to drop. It's always going to have a "But", always going to have fingers pointed back at someone else, which we experience not just in our exchanges, but we saw consistently in Part 1.
Next let's just take a look at one of the specific sections - what is going on in the section, what does it include - I don't think walking through each of these is helpful or necessary:
Again we see a clear understanding of who they are talking to, and what makes them tick in order to be most effective at convincing them to support Israel. That is then used for the very blatant attempt at "selling" lies. 'Americans want a two-state solution, but our leaders don't, that's ok, just say they do want it in some step-by-step roadmap that we're not following' before it literally tells them to operate outside of reality:
This is the rhetorical area in which you need to operate.
And rhetoric and propaganda are both a way of life. Israeli universities have political rhetoric professors. American universities have classical rhetoric professors, and even that is a dying breed. In regards to propaganda, I can't decide if it's hilarious or frightening, but Benjamin Netanyahu's official Knesset biography, on their Israeli government website, actually says after college, he came to America to engage in propaganda on behalf of Israel! https://www.gov.il/apps/elections/elections-knesset-15/heb/pm/ebio_pm_4.html
..Netanyahu returned to the US and received a first degree in Architecture and a second degree in Business Administration at M.I.T, and started working for the "Boston Consultant Group". At the same time he engaged in propaganda activities in the US on behalf of the State of Israel.
Hopefully at this point any notion of this being a conspiratorial, or of it being overblown, is far removed. Because if Israel is the only country that understands that people lie for personal gain, and also the country that lies the most and trusts the least, whoever is naive or dumb enough to believe them, often ends up being the ones the most hurt. More importantly, they're the ones that are used as fodder to achieve their deceitful political aims.
And the people used for that fodder, in this instance, are Americans.
This reinforces the level of study, the polls and focus groups and surveying they do to understand Americans, in order to win their support, while introducing emotional manipulation. Notice above that they're essentially using insincere fear to gain support.
"Although most Americans support a two-state solution, they are aware that such a solution might create more problems for them and for the world."
Bold claim. I'm not aware how a two-state solution might create more problems for me or for the world. But the next question they're told to ask is a real doozy. It's glittering generality of a negative possibility. They couldn't achieve the desired outcome about Americans being afraid of terrorist attacks on American soil, so they pivoted. They asked a question that plants seeds that if there is a two-state solution, the price of gas in America will go up.
If that sounds absolutely absurd to you, and you feel like a serious human could never say something like that, this next part is going to connect the dots. There is only one person shameless enough to say something like that with a straight face. You know who he is. The paragraph highlighted in yellow provides the answers you seek.
We just went from terrorist attacks, to the price of gas going up. Fear at all costs. Which is something that we've seen Bibi fall back on repeatedly with equally as absurd claims.
We'll use that to segue back to the previous manual and pick up with the propaganda techniques. I'll include the "Glittering Generality" just as a reminder of where we were, but will focus on "Transfer" and "Testimonial" propaganda techniques instead:
Starting with transferring, the deceit is impossible to miss. They are saying to use images that have credibility with your messages. They are asking Jews around the world to use images of their national flag next to the flag of Israel. It instructs to fan the flames of Islamophobia, even if it's a lie:
Islamic symbols, which might lend a militant speaker the apparent support of Islam, even when what they are saying goes against mainstream Islamic beliefs.
Now consider the reverse. If Muslim, or Arabs, or any group, anywhere, were to publish a book of 'fooling the public', and said to use the Star of David to make it seem like Jews support militants, EVEN WHEN THAT POSITION GOES AGAINST JUDAISM.
Think about it.
Keep thinking about that, and consider how it seems so obvious that they constantly use Holocaust rhetoric to hide behind and skirt responsibility. They don't flinch when they use the suffering of the Jewish people as a shield. Nor do they flinch when fabricating lies out of thin air about Islam.
Think about where the negative perception you have about Islam came from. And I'm talking to the reader here because if you weren't raised Muslim, and you live in a western nation, I KNOW you have negative bias toward Muslims. Between Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and every non-Russian villain in every movie ever, even those of us with empathy simply have a lifetime of indoctrination and programming that exists solely for the purpose of creating a divide and isolating Muslims.
Circle back around to the previous hypothetical, and the reaction if a Hamas document was discovered that suggested lying about Judaism in order to convince people to side with them. We'd have lawmakers threatening to deport all Muslims on Twitter within 10 minutes. Sadly, I'm not being hyperbolic in the slightest either.
It's beyond dishonest, it's racist, it's harmful, and it confirms that on a whole, Zionists that are using Hasbara to protect Israel and discredit and silence all those who oppose, absolutely see the Arabs as lesser humans, if human at all.
The next Propaganda technique is Testimonial. At a certain level, there is only so much you can dress up instructions to use propaganda, and I think this was really blatant. They are claiming famous people support Israel, even if they don't support Israel, to persuade you, the public:
A celebrity doesn't have to fully endorse Israel to be useful. Quotes can be used as Testimonials too, even when they might be old or taken out of context.
Not just lying about religion, you can lie about any famous or notable figure. Even if that person doesn't fully support it, or it's a quote that is old or taken out of context, it's used as "evidence" that they do support something. And there seems to be a failsafe in place for that if the celebrity doesn't like it at the end. And it is a threat to that celebrity if they show support for Palestine beyond humanitarian aid. This is extortion.
You need to sit with this one for a minute too.
If celebrity support for Palestine goes beyond humanitarian issues to the political, consider coordinating an organized protest. Most celebrities will care more about their public image than they do about the Middle East.
Let it resonate. Reflect on what is being said here.
Remember back to the examples made out of Susan Sarandon, Melissa Barrera, John Cusack, Khelani, poor old Roger Waters, and any celebrities foolish enough NOT to care about their image more than the Middle East. Or Kanye West, Kyrie Irving, and Candace Owens. Have you ever actually heard what they've said, IN context, the whole thing? It's not what's reported.
And by saying what I said above, a bot or a mindless Israel supporter can leave a comment saying I support antisemites. It/they won't provide a source, because what they're saying doesn't need to be true, it just either needs to sound good, or make me sound bad, to people who haven't made their mind up yet. Are you sensing the theme?
So here is an example of a recent post of mine that these advocates attacked that wasn't removed and didn't work. This person - if it's a person and not a bot - didn't even bother to watch the video before making their claim. The video doesn't matter. In this instance, it didn't work to have the post removed or discredited, at least in this sub, the same post was attacked in the same way and did get removed from the BDS sub.
And then here are two examples of posts of mine from that same sub that DID get removed, even though nobody backs their claims up, they just accuse the person of being antisemitic. And it worked, the mods got enough reports that it was no longer worth keeping up the post. My personal approach is to attack back, because I know they're FOS and dishonesty triggers me, though my approach likely puts mods in a tough spot from time to time. As you can see from the upvotes/downvotes, other people knew it was disingenuous too, but it didn't matter, both posts were removed. And that is Hasbara working.
These next two techniques are commonly used, and were in fact used in the above posts accusing my posts of some non-specific form of antisemitism. Simply put - they pretend to be one of us - though the testimonial technique is used for anyone - politicians, known racists, political commentators, athletes, professors - ANYONE they want.
Pay attention to Plain Folks, as this is a technique that AI is MUCH better at than the previous bots and Hasbara agents were. In my estimation, this is the technique that has taken the largest step forward in how effective it's become. That's what happened in those examples above, they pretended to be concerned Pro-Palestinian voices, and even if it was easy to prove that wasn't true, they stink of being accused of antisemitism stuck.
It's true, politicians have done it forever, but that doesn't make a technique appropriate to use. Politicians are not examples of morality. Now think back on recent threads and conversations that you were a part of. There is a lot more "tone-policing" from users who are giving the impression that they're Pro-Palestinian, or "Anti-Israel", which in itself should be a red flag that they might be a Hasbara agent and they're using glittering generality to associate your post with being "Anti-Israel", before the next connection of "Anti-Israel" = "Anti-Jewish" or "Antisemitism" is made. And it will be made, when you see that generic connection to antisemitism stated.
If you haven't noticed an increased presence of these actors feigning concern about antisemitism, it's because they've been so effective in having content removed. But you have. If you're active, you have, and now that you know to look for it, you'll notice a lot more people that are suddenly conscience of and pointing out that many people that opine on Israel's misdeeds, are "known______", far right, neocons, Neo-Nazis, Nazis, racists, fascists, antisemites? Or perhaps they SUPPORT a far right, a ______.
Take a moment to reflect - have you seen this tactic used? Have you agreed with it? Have you been policing the own voices on your side because a bot that doesn't even know who that person is, has learned that saying they're a racist, or by calling that person far right, will shut down pro-Palestinian messages?
There is no bigger win for the Pro-Israel Hasbara army, or for Israel, than to get the Pro-Palestinian side to police itself. All they have to do often times is send somebody in to call somebody racist.
And why exactly does someone's beliefs on a different topic, despicable as they might be, discredit their opinion on this topic? Because it doesn't work in reverse. The entire Israeli government under Netanyahu is far right. The last moderate of note was Benny Gantz, and he quit. Smotrich and Ben-Gvir are proud racists, and not only is their opinion valid, it's actually forming policy. They're proud homophobes, but not homophobes like we're used to. This is something that's beyond comprehension. This entire Haaretz article should have ended Smotrich's career , yet it somehow made him more popular:
"Smotrich has also been sharing his feelings about the LGBT community for years, starting in 2006, when he infamously helped organize the “Beast Parade,” in which he and his friends marched in the streets of Jerusalem with goats and donkeys as a way of spotlighting so-called “deviant acts,” and mocking the gay pride parade in the city.
(Smotrich) remains opposed to gay marriage, continues to refer to gays as “abnormal” and has accused the LGBT community of controlling the media so as to silence views like his.
In a Facebook post last year he called the anti-violence protests following the stabbing of six people at the gay pride parade in Jerusalem – and the attack in Duma, which happened the very next day – a “left-wing witch hunt,” aimed at “inciting against and silencing” anyone who opposed the protestors’ views.
And, at a recent discussion with high-school students in Ramat Gan, Smotrich described himself as a “proud homophobe.”...
In any case, being a homophobe would mean I am afraid of homos, and I am not,” he added in the Channel 2 interview. “I am not afraid of homos or of Arabs I am not afraid of anything.”
And they're proud segregationists, just another word for the ruling side of apartheid. From that same Haaretz article:
Those who call it terror are perverting the truth, unjustifiably inflicting great harm to human and civil rights and cheapening the concept of terror.... Terror is exclusively violence by an enemy as part of a war against us."
And it doesn't stop there. He goes on to blame and threaten the Israeli government if they call them terrorists, saying that no Jew that participates in a violent act of terrorism:
"should be called terrorists or terror supporters. Rather, he prefers to call them “well-intentioned youngsters” gone astray, unable to “overcome their disappointment” with the realities in Israel. A government that “treats the most moral population in the State of Israel as a terror-supporting population loses its right to exist,” he writes. “When you push an entire community up against the wall, treat its [members] like terrorists, demonize it, trample on its rights, it ultimately explodes. Let no one be surprised when this should happen, when more and more people will be pushed, against their will, to carry out actions that are forbidden.”
So think of this deeper. We let them derail us, take down content, and we police each other because they accuse us, and every other country, of being racist and homophobic. And we let them. Why? Why do they have the credibility to push us around by accusing us of ANYTHING? Why don't they ever have to prove it? Who cares what this degenerate ideology of Zionism has to say about anyone? In fact, if Zionists are complimentary of you, it almost certainly means you're NOT a gigantic piece of shit and a terrible human being. You don't want a Zionist denying a genocide approving of your actions and ideology anyways. Yet we chase it.
Name calling and moral shaming is not just ridiculous, it's highly effective and setting the Pro-Palestinian voices back significantly. But it doesn't stop there. We draw a red line when it comes to someone's character if they have an opinion on Israel, but we don't take away that opinion for anything else. The same "racist" or "Antisemite" can opine on ANYTHING that's not Israel, and won't get rejected out of hand, instead people say "I don't agree with ______ stance on ____, but even a broken clock is right twice a day."
So, even if these accusations of antisemitism, made without any supporting evidence, were true, does that change anything about what's being said? Why do we remove content that is accurate and relevant because it might come from someone who might have said something that might have been antisemitic at some point, likely in the distant past? If they did actually say something, that something is almost certainly is taken out of context. Because sadly, until this genocide, nobody gave a fuck about Israel. They started caring because of Israel's killing of children and subsequent showboating and rubbing it our face while claiming they were the victim.
Why is Israel allowed to embrace people and empower them, and their racist ideologies, but Pro-Palestinian voices can't use anything by someone that has ever said something racist, even when it's not relevant to the question at hand?
Alright, let's look at using "Fear" as a propaganda technique now:
Remember where I left off with the other manual, in using fear - be it of a terrorist attack on America, or if that failed, of rising gas prices - to convince Americans to support Israel.
Where has the suggestion of Arab terrorist attacks come from? For the last 30 years? If your first thought is anybody other than Israel, you haven't been paying attention. But aside from that, consider the instructions here, how openly the manual instructs to manipulate people using fear.
When a speaker warns that the consequence of ignoring his message is likely to be war, conflict, personal suffering, and so-forth, they are manipulating fear to advance their message.
Listeners have deep-seated fears of violence and disorder, which can be tapped into to create false dichotomies.
AKA, the Netanyahu special. How many times have we heard that a group of ragtag militants with precisely zero international capabilities are going to transverse 5000 miles of water and come for America next?
From the occupiers that already here?
Nobody wants to face physical risk, or financial ruin.
Doxxing should be coming to mind for you right about now. Have you ever had someone said that they agree with you, but they don't want to say so publicly because they don't want to be doxxed?
I have. And I responded strongly, shaming them for being a coward. But, should I have? It's a real threat, and fear propaganda is literally being used against them. Against everyone. It's hard to consider in the heat of the moment when you're getting attacked from multiple angles, and that's the the point. It's also why their new AI-led Hasbara is much more effective than before. Because Pro-Israel supporters can also feel beat up, exhausted, and discouraged from the roles they play. But AI never does.
This fear propaganda DOES have legitimate scare-power. It should. We've seen hundreds of American's doxxed, and thousands of American's violated by law enforcement for Israel. Consider the BDS movement was a few thousand people in a country of over 350 million, and we opened up a new government department FOR ISRAEL, to stop our citizens from boycotting Israel. American's, who are only American's because we boycotted British tea in the Boston Tea Party. It's literally why we exist as we do, yet we opened up a government department on the federal level, and have politicians at the state level in EVERY state that are working and spending resources and passing legislature to stop us from boycotting Israel. And in some cases, stop us from being able to talk about boycotting Israel.
Sometimes propaganda can be real, and in this case, while it's not the fear of a terror attack, it is real fear.
Ok, let's look at Bandwagon propaganda.
Nothing revolutionary or surprising. However it does require one thing: Volume. And that volume comes in the form of paid volunteers, volunteers performing duty, or any of the millions upon millions of bots that Israel or Pro-Israel groups operate.
It's recommended for "subtle manipulators", which if you've asked yourself "who would have the never to say THAT??!" at any point to now, you would be in their camp of "subtle manipulators". One of the giveaways that you're speaking to a human and not a bot is when you can tell the Pro-Israeli user doesn't have the strongest conviction in what they're doing. It doesn't mean they'll stop doing it, because they end up gaining that conviction by participating in the toxic Pro-Israeli subs.
Now with the new integration of having AI formulate their responses, we won't be able to notice that as much anymore. Another point in the score column for Israel.
So why does this work? They think most people are shallow followers that are too lazy or apathetic to care to look into something deeper, and are in essence scared away from even thinking about doing that by not being a part of the crowd. And sadly, they're not wrong.
Alright, I just want to show one page from their "Accusations and Rebuttals" section as an example of what those pages are, but might as well pick one that we've all heard.
Again, I'm not going to get too hung up on this page, but what is important is for the reader to understand that this is now done by AI. A post will be reported, and AI will spit out the best Pro-Israel answer. The AI was fed the existing database of Hasbara though, these same talking points is what it has to learn from.
OK, so I've mentioned AI about a dozen times. Let's get to it.
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You may remember a win scored against the Israeli propaganda machine last year where Pro-Palestinian users were able to get Words of Iron shut down. The way that they did was by using the site against them. On that site, multiple reports of a post would flag it, and send bot armies to downvote and report it. So Pro-Palestinian users just started reporting posts that Pro-Israeli users were posting. For those not familiar, here is a look at what Act.IL and Words of Iron would provide to "advocates":
The Pro-Palestinian community was able to band together and get these tools shut down. It was beautiful, and I don't know why they weren't just reprogrammed, but I'm guessing it was unable to adequately detect sentiment. Detecting sentiment is a task that AI excels at relative to any technology we've ever had.
Like the rest of the world, Israel is now using AI to help automate their efforts. And like any machine learning model, the more data they pour into it, the more realistic it becomes. It's just going to continue to get better, every time it's used, it's better than the previous time, even if infinitesimally so. And those new tools I believe are a big reason why there aren't as many people calling Hasbara efforts out as there were this time last year.
I'm not going to show each of these sites, the two that I want to focus on are Israel FAQS, and AI for Israel.
I'll start with AI 4 Israel, because it's really easy and straightforward. They put your post in. The AI gives them back a reply in about 2 seconds:
That's it. No fuss, no muss. Their next release is an API, so you can use an API to connect this AI, and it's logic and answers, to any other site. Meaning, plug a chatbot into it. Go ask ChatGPT for the code for a chat bot with an API, you've got a chatbot you can plug into your site in 60-seconds.
A sophisticated answer by a machine learning model that improves just by virtue of being fed your question.
Now, let's look at IsraelFAQs, which has quite a bit more going on:
If we hover over the "Find an Answer", you will see the categories they felt worthy of including in their mega menu. ICJ is the first one, but I don't think the others will surprise anyone.
These are the instructions in how to use the site.
At the beginning of Post 1, we saw their "Battlegrounds" they target or "defend". They provide their YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter pages for each, so that their brigades can go and join in on a battle in one of these key online "Battlegrounds".
We saw the result. Sky News re-did their story. And it's important to recognize that in a lot of instances, this isn't some sense of patriotic duty or just brainwashed kids, but for many people this is their livelihood. That Israel has some amount of paid actors was mentioned in Post 1, but not elaborated on. Here you can see the payment schedule for just one lobby group, which illustrates that they are rewarded for engagement, and they are paid rather handsomely for a job that amounts to sitting at home and trolling people on the internet:
Also important is to realize that Hasbara doesn't only affect us online. It affects journalist, policymakers, and representatives for NGOs alike. I compiled this video of content filmed between 10 and 20 years ago and includes footage explaining Hasbara campaigns back to the early 80s, but I started it with a red carpet interview with Ramy Youssef in 2024. Note the frustration expressed by the reporter:
https://reddit.com/link/1h2233e/video/6yyzml7mjo3e1/player
"And I got so many emails telling me I need to correct my story.. Uh, it's astounding, the amount of division, out there, what kind of pushback, or difficulty have you experienced when you're trying to talk to people about this?"
Her "story" was an interview with Mark Ruffalo. They wanted her to correct what Mark Ruffalo said to her in an interview. An interview is not a story she can change, yet even running an interview, where someone voices support for Palestine, the reporter receives a ton of pressure to change that article to say something else that's more Israel-positive.
Ok, so the last page I'll leave you with are the IsraelFAQs TikTok instructions. In particular, I wanted to show another example of the importance placed on reporting any and all posts that are anti-Israel.
Your post doesn't need to violate anything, simply by receiving a bunch of reports on it, the algorithm will stop promoting it, and wait for a mod to manually review it. It kills momentum even if it doesn't block it entirely.
But often times it does block it entirely. Or shadowban the user, anywhere from sitewide to that creator (or that sub if you want to think about it in Reddit terms).
Chomsky has also talked about it, saying the US media’s focus with Russia’s alleged interference in the 2016 was "a joke".
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/7/27/noam_chomsky_on_mass_media_obsession
“First of all, if you’re interested in foreign interference in our elections, whatever the Russians may have done barely counts or weighs in the balance as compared with what another state does, openly, brazenly and with enormous support,”
Despite what our media tried to brainwash us with, Russia wasn't the main source of interference in the 2016 elections. It was Israel. Our FBI literally redacted all mentions of Israel's involvement in the Mueller report AND in the Senate Intelligence Committee Report. They also redacted the 2018 search warrant, but there's enough evidence to know that Netanyahu personally directed the operation. This article is incredibly well sourced and links to a dozen other sources that are all valid and worthwhile: https://www.thenation.com/article/world/trump-israel-collusion/
Consider Team Jorge was exposed last year, one firm hired to rig 33 Presidential Elections. He hacked Telegram and made a bunch of Twitter bots as part of his sales pitch. This guy was so dumb that he got caught when he forgot to delete the messages he sent from one of the 10 Telegram accounts. And that's a common theme you'll encounter, someone smart enough to hack TELEGRAM, the supposed unhackable messaging system, but in his hubris, dumb enough to forget to delete the message he sent from that Telegram.
Team Jorge isn't unique or notable in anyway over the other 26 firms. They're not even one of the large firms, like NSO which developed Pegasus and the US blacklisted while also purchasing their software to spy on all of its citizens, or Candiru which developed Sherlock. A middle of the road firm, Team Jorge was successful in 27 of 33 presidential level election interference campaigns at the time of reporting. There are 27 of these cyber firms in Israel, and they do a lot more than just rig elections
You may remember a few months ago a story about Israel targeting politicians in the US with bots and disinformation to persuade them to support Israel, including 600 fake profiles making 2000 coordinated comments per week straight to 128 members of Congress. It was an $8.6 million campaign in the US alone.
Just a few months ago, even more details came out. And it was a campaign targeting black lawmakers:
And there was another campaign running concurrently targeting Canadian lawmakers
It's a lot to digest, a lot to unpack, and I'm going to leave a link to A LOT more source material in the comments. But we aren't alone. You aren't alone. We're just being kept apart and silenced. If we can start to work on not letting them silence us, I suspect the pace at which we come together would be blindingly fast. Which is why they work so hard not to let us.
You wouldn't approve of this type of manipulation about completely innocuous topics. What is happening in Gaza is anything but innocuous. Don't allow Hasbara to shut down our conversations. Remember the fake accusations don't hold a candle to how racist, hateful, and intolerant Israel. That's all she wrote folks, I hope it was helpful.