/r/carnivore

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Welcome to r/carnivore.

This community is different than typical diet communities, it's not a grab bag of hacks for undereating

It's all about restoring health and that means the first order of business is improving health markers and starting to increase muscle and bone density -- yes, that means you can and should eat heartily to appetite.

If you're ready to get started eating only animal source foods, check out -- https://www.reddit.com/r/carnivore/wiki/faq/#wiki_getting_started

A subreddit for the carnivore diet.

Useful links:

Zerocarb subreddit

ZerocarbMeal Subreddit

World Carnivore Tribe Facebook group

Meatogains Subreddit

Zeroing In On Health

The Fat of the Land

The Bear's Words of Wisdom

http://meatheals.com

Dr Shawn Baker on Youtube

Mikhaila Peterson on YouTube

List of studies comparing vegans vs non vegans


No medical advice (taken or given) - See your GP or family doctor, not Dr. Reddit.

Anti vegan posts will be deleted. This subreddit is about diet discussion. r/AntiVegan is where those posts belong!

Do not self advertise your blog/Youtube/shop/sub. Low effort/nonsense/disgusting/offtopic/meme posts will be deleted. DO NOT spam this sub with complaints about how you were moderated on another subreddit. Multiple offenses will result in a block.

Do not advocate eating raw chicken and pork.

DO NOT post or talk about cheats/cheat days

NO coffee/tea, mushrooms, artificial sweeteners, alcohol, marijuana, or drugs

If it doesn't come from an animal, it's not carnivore.

Meat and water, that's it.

Trolling will not be tolerated and will result in a block.

NO VEGANS. This sub is not for vegan participation. Vegans come here and have been disruptive and rude in the past, so you're ban on sight. Vegan trolling will not be tolerated. Promotion of veganism will not be tolerated either. This isn't a debate subreddit. r/DebateAVegan exists for that.

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Does too much protein really cause kidney issues? New to carnivore looking for advice

So switching my diet up because carbs and sugars just don't agree with me... I have packed on the pounds and weigh over 230lbs at 5ft9.

I feel the best when i eat above 200g of protein a day ... which comes from chicken breast and eggs, i am losing weight at a reasonable pace.

I have some veg and keep my carbs under 100g most days but i am looking to eventually go into carnivore ... i track my vitamins and minerals so i make sure i get everything i need.

I feel great, i have more energy my brain fog is almost gone etc

How ever i am reading that high protein is bad for the kidneys ... is this really legit or is it fear mongering ?

How many grams of protein do you have per day ?

How long have you been at those levels?

I'm assuming some people will get tests regularly to keep up to date on kidney functions ?

If so what was the outcome ....

Appreciated in advance

18 Comments
2024/12/01
10:12 UTC

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What other cuts of meat should I get?

I'm trying to branch out a bit more. I've had a lot of ribeyes, NY strip steak , sirloins, ground beef, bacon, and a lot of burger patties. Just started adding a bit of liver here and there, and I eat a decent amount of dairy with things. I've also had the occasional lamb loin shank.

What else should I try out for variety and better cost (ribeye is expensive, even from the butcher where I'm at)? I tried roast beef recently and it made me throw up, so I've got a bit of an aversion there. Just looking for ideas from others to see what they like to do, and how you keep your fat:protein ratio nice and high on a budget with some variety. I was thinking about trying to do a brisket earlier but I'm not sure if I could get enough fat with that without eating a ton of butter or something.

0 Comments
2024/11/30
20:34 UTC

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Thoughts?

I’m seeking some general feedback and insight. I don’t typically track my macronutrients closely, but I follow a carnivore diet primarily consisting of beef, eggs, butter, and chicken. On average, I consume about 2,500 to 3,200 calories daily. My fitness routine includes resistance training six days a week, with one rest day, and I occasionally add sprints for cardio. Full transparency, I am on TRT described by a doctor, and the only supplement is creatine.

Currently, my intake is approximately 300 grams of protein, 200 grams of fat, and around 10 grams of trace carbs from eggs.

What are your thoughts on these macros? Should I make any adjustments based on my goals or activity level? Is my protein too high? I am always hungry lol

2 Comments
2024/11/30
15:11 UTC

31

Nightmares about cheating

Carnivore is finally the first diet in my life I started taking seriously and actually committed for the long run, believing in it. I’m actually so committed that almost every night I dream that I fall off the wheel and cheat and then hate myself and feel horrible shame 😂. Anyone else can relate?

I’m almost a month in, feeling good but when I started feeling stable and satiated for example when going to bed, I kept thinking before going to sleep “come on, it’s impossible I’m not feeling any cravings/be fine on just fat and protein, i must have eaten some carbs during the day, I just probably don’t remember!” Brain is taking some time for this carnivore “finally feeling satiated, good and calm” reality to sink in!

This community is a massive support, thank you all for existing 🥩❤️

19 Comments
2024/11/30
13:48 UTC

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Make Black Friday worth it. My goto tools - what are your favorites?

As a Chef, thought I would share some of my favorite kitchen tools that can add to your experience as they have for me, with two massive tips at the end.

Here are some of my mandatory tools:

  1. Get a good Chef knife. Spend time with it. Take care of it. Learn to sharpen it.

  2. A really good skillet (or several) - I use a Cast Iron for most days. High quality Stainless Steel for developing fond (sauce), and have fun with a steel carbon skillet.

  3. Get yourself a meat dedicated cutting board, like the knife - take care of it.

Tools I've used for years:

  1. Pressure cookers: If you're looking to create incredible meals, you have to start using a pressure cooker. Cuts that simply work well in an amazing amount of time are things like Large Pot Roasts, Short Ribs, Shoulder. This will open up a bunch of meals for you, that allow you to have food for days and balance the budget.

  2. SousVide: I've been using SousVide for well over 15 years now. As an early adopter, I found it amazing. One of the best things on the planet is Turkey breast that's cooked SousVide, then flashed in a hot pan with butter. I love fish in sousvide, along with other amazing cuts. You can make your own incredible yogurts using SousVide as well.

  3. Dehydrator: Make your own Jerky. Period.

Two Tips:

  1. Salt your meat, period. HOWEVER, brown your meat too. You're going to want to toy around with salting your cuts, letting them sit for 30 minutes at room temp, then use a clean DRY kitchen towel to soak up the moisture, then go straight to browning. I do this whether I'm cooking your everyday steak or browning Short Ribs in a Pressure Cooker. BAM! Your crust game just went up a notch.

  2. Save your bones in a zip lock in the freezer and make your own stocks. I love making stocks in a pressure cooker, simply amazing. High quality salt with those bones and filtered water into a pressure cooker will result in an incredible stock that you can drink or use to deglaze that stainless skillet to make a butter sauce.

Final Note:

Let's make this Black Friday a bit more meaningful, if you're going to frivolously spend, then spend it towards your health and ability to support your Carnivore life in the kitchen.

Note on pressure cookers: I’ve used a stove top version for years, which may feel a bit intimidating to some. The new electric models are pretty awesome.

12 Comments
2024/11/29
15:40 UTC

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Ground Organ Meat w Chuck - Bad Smell Normal?

Just opened up my first one pound bag of heart and liver ground with chuck that I got directly from a local farm. I normally buy about 50 pounds of all grass ground beef and just added the organ meat to this last order. I put it in the fridge to thaw on Tuesday and opened it today (Friday). I tossed it bc it smelled bad but even if it thawed in the fridge in one day, it should of still been good today. My normal ground chuck thaws in a couple days and I eat it 1-3 days after that and it always smells good.

tldr, does organ meat ground with chuck always smell "off" or "funky"?

4 Comments
2024/11/29
22:47 UTC

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What single food item can you survive on for the rest of your life? Well it's meat!

So why is there so much misinformation out there? I just watched MatPat's video on this on The Food Theorist, and he is so misinformed. But this isn't the first time people have called out MatPat for inaccurate information on his channels. MatPat came up with several single food items mixed together and apparently never reached the conclusion that meat is the one sole food you can survive on.

Also, a year ago on Reddit, someone asked about this, and people flooded the post, but no one mentioned meat.

Meat contains every single vitamin, mineral, amino acid, and fatty acid your body needs! The only thing meat is lacking is vitamin C. However, we know (and this is very well-established in science) that people on the carnivore diet don’t develop scurvy because their vitamin C requirement is much lower than people who consume carbohydrates.

Therefore, the small amount of vitamin C found in meat is utilized much more efficiently by the body, and you never develop scurvy.

Meat is, without a doubt, the only single food item you can survive on indefinitely, until you die of old age, disease, or trauma.

19 Comments
2024/11/28
02:34 UTC

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Is cottage cheese part of the carnivore diet?

32 Comments
2024/11/27
17:56 UTC

0

Raw liver for the very first time

Hi guys so i wanna jump right away to the main point I'm low on money and i could barely afford high quality food but i wanna start a raw diet to cure my ibs n i ate a raw liver i just wanna know if it has any side effects if u r eating for the first time

25 Comments
2024/11/26
16:12 UTC

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Not eating enough?

I’ve been carnivore since 11/14 and have gone from 222 to 207 which is great. However, I worry I am not eating enough. I definitely eat whenever I am hungry and I eat until I am satiated. Somedays that is next to nothing. Other days it’s a part of a ribeyes and a couple eggs. Is this something I should be concerned about. If so, do I just force feed myself more?

Edit: I started carnivore 11/11 not 11/14

7 Comments
2024/11/26
15:10 UTC

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Help with sleep transitioning to Lion!

Brief background. I was extremely sick for 2.5 yrs. Long story but triggered by severe stress with many crazy, weird symptoms. I'm now 95% better and a total 180 from where I was this time last year. The last remaining symptom is chronic, daily bloating/distension. I've been transitioning to carnivore from keto to hopefully and finally heal. I've now been 95% carnivore for 3.5 wks. The 5% non-compliance is due to coffee and I've started the weaning off process. Done this before and better for me than cold turkey. I'm also not reacting well to clean bacon or even aged cheese. So I've stopped those foods and feeling better without. I'm still having my one cup of morning coffee with a beaten raw egg, 1 Tblspn ghee and salt. I've stopped butter, and may need to give up ghee and eggs as well and go Lion. I've switched from chicken to duck eggs to see if that makes a difference. But as I'm segueing to Lion, my sleep is beginning to suffer. I have no problem falling asleep and wake up as usual at least once during the night to pee. But I'm now having difficulty getting back to sleep, and my sleep is restless. I know all about "sleep hygiene" and do my best. When I was very sick, I had chronic insomnia and I don't want to re-trigger that! It was absolutely miserable. FWIW, I have Hashimoto's. Per labs back in August, all my thyroid numbers dropped. But I was sleeping well until the last few weeks. I'm on Armour 60mg and don't want to increase yet. Hoping this WOE will help. I'm 70, 5'2", 122 lbs, walk, bike, and lift 2 days/wk. TIA for any thoughts/suggestions!

3 Comments
2024/11/26
14:20 UTC

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Can beef be replaced with lamb, mutton or chicken with extra butter in my carnivore diet? Beef is not available nearby.

1 Comment
2024/11/26
12:30 UTC

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Wow!! first clip from Dave Feldman's Cholesterol Code documentary

A lot of people around the low carb, keto, and carnivore space have heard about Dave Feldman's work -- he's an extraordinary man who has been doing some incredible work about cholesterol patterns and how they can change depending on diet and the questions that raises for some of the standard interpretations of LDL levels in isolation.

Here is Dr. Ken Berry interviewing Dave about this release, about the many people who have come to collaborate with him and join in developing and doing the research (Drs Nick Norwitz, Adrian Soto-Mota, Dr David Ludwig, and Dr Matthew Budoff and more) and his supporters, The BaszuckiGroup and everyone supporting the CitizenScienceFoundation.org which Dave started in order to fund the research as they could not get funding from the usual sources.

brb with the link and some time stamps.

https://x.com/woundphysician/status/1861146857268711662?s=46

The clip starts around 8m10s

4 Comments
2024/11/25
21:16 UTC

16

Thanksgiving

As someone very new to the carnivore diet, how do I keep going with my carnivore progress without offending my entire family for not eating their food? Is it okay to have one day indulging in all of the sweets and carbohydrates of a conventional American Thanksgiving meal?

60 Comments
2024/11/25
19:53 UTC

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I Don’t Get It: Seeking Insight on the Carnivore Diet and the Harvard Study

Hello everyone!

One of my friends has been following the Lion Diet for almost 8 years now and consistently reports significant health improvements—both psychologically and physically. It’s fascinating, and it’s sparked my interest in potentially adopting a more meat-based diet.

That said, I tend to approach lifestyle changes with curiosity and a need to understand the mechanisms behind them. While I don’t doubt my friend’s results, I find myself asking how and why this diet works so well for some people. (It’s just how my brain works—I like to connect the dots before diving in!)

My friend recently shared this Harvard study: Behavioral Characteristics and Self-Reported Health Status among 2029 Adults Consuming a “Carnivore Diet”. He strongly believes it speaks for itself and insists there’s no need for further exploration, as the numbers and results “prove” the diet’s effectiveness.

However, I’m still left with questions. I don’t mean to be dismissive, but I feel that one study—while valuable—should fit into a broader context of ongoing research and critical evaluation. I’m posting here in the hopes that someone might share their perspectives on the study, or guide me toward resources that address my lingering questions.

Here are my thoughts on the study:

Limitations and Considerations:

  1. Self-Selection and Reporting Bias:
    • Participants were recruited via social media and self-identified as adherents of the diet. This could result in a biased sample, as those with positive experiences might be more likely to participate.
    • Self-reported health improvements and lab results could also be prone to inaccuracies.
  2. Short Study Duration:
    • The median adherence period of 14 months provides limited insight into the long-term sustainability and effects of this diet. Health issues like nutrient deficiencies, bone health, or cardiovascular risks often take years to surface.
  3. Lack of Control Group:
    • Without comparing this group to individuals on other diets, it’s hard to determine whether the reported benefits are unique to the carnivore diet or might result from other factors (e.g., weight loss alone, elimination of processed foods, etc.).
  4. Elevated LDL Cholesterol:
    • LDL levels were significantly elevated in participants, which raises concerns about long-term cardiovascular health risks. The study doesn’t provide clarity on the implications of these elevations.

My Broader Questions:

From my understanding, scientific consensus doesn’t emerge from a single study but rather through a chain of studies that critique, replicate, and build upon each other. Over time, patterns and conclusions emerge that guide best practices and recommendations.

Am I wrong to approach this with such skepticism and a desire for deeper understanding? My friend feels this study should be enough to convince me, but I feel the need to explore further.

Topics I’d Like to Learn More About:

If anyone has recommendations for further reading or studies that address these topics, I’d greatly appreciate it:

  1. Longitudinal Studies: Research exploring the long-term sustainability and effects of a carnivore diet on diverse populations.
  2. Controlled Trials: Comparisons of the carnivore diet with other dietary patterns to isolate its unique effects.
  3. Cardiovascular Health: Studies focusing on the implications of elevated LDL levels and other cardiovascular risks.
  4. Micronutrient Analysis: Research on whether the exclusion of plant foods creates deficiencies or if animal foods alone suffice.

Thank you in advance for your insights! I’m here to learn, not debate, and I’m grateful for any information or personal experiences you’re willing to share.

41 Comments
2024/11/25
10:21 UTC

5

Mental block.

I want to lose weight. I want to be healthy. I've tried carnivore but it's so hard for me to look at burgers and cheese and think health. I get a few days in then quit because of this thinking "there's no way this can be healthy" but from everything I've read/seen it seems super healthy. Anyone else deal with this? If so how did you get past it?

15 Comments
2024/11/25
06:43 UTC

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Advice for a Beginner on Carnivore

Hi all - I'm starting carnivore for a couple months tomorrow and need some advice -

I'm 5'11 184 and in good shape, doing this bc I'm sick of having eczema and want to feel peak energy

  1. Are spices / seasoning allowed if they're just natural and no sugar / artificial ingredients

  2. I keep kosher and can't find any kosher beef tallow or some of the organs others eat - what is the least offensive oil to use otherwise?

  3. Is fhere a risk if my LDL is slightly elevated?

Thank you all!

P.S - is there a guide or some sort of reference that everyone uses in guiding their choices while on carnivore? Would love to be able to reference this during my journey.

0 Comments
2024/11/24
01:10 UTC

8

Time to heal autoimmune?

I'm about 7 weeks in. Only meat, dairy, salt, and occasionally some other spices if I'm forced to eat out.

There are lots of problems I'm trying to resolve with carnivore and most of them have gotten much better already (digestion, acne, energy, weight, etc.). Problem is, one of the primary reasons I went on carnivore is because I have something called dermatographia, which is (they think) an autoimmune condition where a few weird things happen:

  • skin will get red from even very very light contact such as scratching or even pulling a shirt on over my head in the morning
  • itching all over which constantly moves around my whole body (no hives before until I scratch, then see above)
  • inflammation at the site of the red skin, often raised, often swollen where I can feel my heartbeat in that spot

I used to take Zyrtec twice per day to try to manage these symptoms and stopped cold-turkey when I got on carnivore. Now I take it only when the itching becomes unbearable, which has maybe been like 4-5 times. The problem is that this still hasn't gone away yet or gotten significantly better. The symptoms come and go more frequently than they did prior but it's still bad and drives me bonkers.

Does anyone else have experience with this? How long should I expect to keep going before I should consider things like cutting out dairy and/or going full lion diet? Any advice?

Also as a side note, I'm starting to think more recently that I also have MCAS which is associated with dermatographia, though I've never been tested for MCAS.

22 Comments
2024/11/24
10:33 UTC

0

Advice Needed

As the title says I need help understanding how to get started. I want to make a YouTube channel documenting my progress. I want to know what my limitations should be. Some say eggs are fine, others don't. Some swear by ribeye daily, others say ground beef is fine.

I just need answers on how to approach this without breaking the bank or my spirit. What risks if any are involved.

I'm currently 270 lb which is 100 pounds over weight. Is chicken an option since I'll be burner my fat off for awhile anyways? Or should I still prioritize fatty meats?

Should I eat only when I'm hungry or set timers throughout the day?

I hope my questions don't come off as annoying, I simply want a better life for myself and my loved ones. I wish to document it in order to show the benefits if any. Thank you for reading!

9 Comments
2024/11/24
07:37 UTC

129

Gum disease, gum recession recovery!!

Carnivore is the way to go, my mild gum recession is literally reversing, mainstream sciences says that its not possible to recover gum tissue, lmao its fucking gum tissue, your body can even regrow your liver, u are telling me that it cannot regrow it? Of course it can, the only way is by not eating carbs, starve the bacteria and then everytime u eat carbs use antibacterial mouthwash so they don't evem have time to reproduce. In my case i only eat carbs in social events because i think that sharing a meal with someone is something essential, but doing carnivore at home

74 Comments
2024/11/24
02:37 UTC

2

Women on carnivore diet

Hi question for the women, how much eggs do u eat everyday?

I read somewhere women should eat more protein than fat idk but yea

13 Comments
2024/11/24
02:00 UTC

1

Meat and egg diet

Hello everyone! I'm thinking about starting the meat and egg diet. I'm planning to eat 2 times a day, around 500 gramms (~cca. 1 lb) of meat and 4-5 eggs. I also plan to eat some quality carbohydrates evern 4th or 5th day. Everything I've found on the net is about beef but where I live beef costs too much. My goal is to lose body fat. Does this diet work with pork?

8 Comments
2024/11/23
21:06 UTC

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Question regarding butter?

Hey guys was recently at the grocery store and found a block of Gay Lee's salted Butter, is this brand ok or would you suggest getting the grass fed version? Just wondering cause the grass fed (250g) is $7.20 as opposed to the regular block version at $3.45 450g

4 Comments
2024/11/23
19:27 UTC

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Hitting a plateau in the first 2 weeks? New to Carnivore.

I’m just shy of 14 days into my carnivore diet - I’ve initially dropped 10lbs rather quickly ( I know this is mainly water weight ) but since losing the 10lbs, my scale hasn’t moved 1lb.

My appetite is smaller, I’m definitely eating less. Mainly doing OMAD so I know I’m not overeating. My meal is usually 4 eggs, ribeye steak with lots of butter.

Haven’t been lifting weights but I have been going on a 10km walk with some light jogging.

Not sure if I should even look at the scale? Just looking at my body I can tell my face is leaning out and stomach is shrinking.

Any thoughts or advice?

Thank you!

16 Comments
2024/11/23
18:00 UTC

67

The price of food is killing me

Even the price of ground beef is going up n up where I live. Eggs same story. Really disheartening.

66 Comments
2024/11/23
15:23 UTC

4

Ideal protein to fat ratio

What works best for you? I'm just getting started and this is my 2nd week so trying to find my feet.

29 Comments
2024/11/23
10:40 UTC

19

What is something you achieved in wоrk or studying with carnivore that you cоuldn't have otherwise?

Although thousands of people report great direct hеalth rеsults like having more energy than ever, having complete mеntal clаrity, inflаmmation going away, wеight loss, аnxiety and dеpression lifting and so on. Many even go as far as saying they feel like supеrman in comparison, but not a lot of people say what they are manаging to achieve with their newly gained аbilities and hеalth that they couldn't have otherwise.

For example there's that guy who ran several marathons while completely fаsted and fаt аdapted, are there more examples like that?

So to clarify, not how much weight you lost or how your health improved, but something related to productivity that you otherwise couldn't do, because maybe you were too weak, unmotivated,etc. before switching.

In my own example, although I'm just a beginner and not even halfway fat adapted, I noticed I can lеarn and prаctice foreign languages on my phоne for an entire hour or more to the point of bоredom which I'd otherwise be at within 5 minutes on the stаndаrd diеt. Within days of going cаrnivore I also stаrted regaining the drivе to continue leаrning 3d mоdеling and prоgrаmming, which were my hobbies years ago until I lost the motivаtion to do them.

21 Comments
2024/11/23
10:26 UTC

5

Kids and carnivore

Been paleo for a few yrs and transition to carnivore recently.Love it. Have 3 boys under 6. Eldest always pushed vegies. Hidden them extra. The last two. Well I'm single. Leftovers aren't eaten by me . Vegies are being prepped cooked and wasted. They all eat meat. Sandwiches they eat the middle. Pizza. They only eat the topping. Tacos. They eat the middle. They do love berries apples ect.I still have this mentality that it's bad they don't eat veg. Bacon and eggs with toast for breakfast. Bread is left behind. They do eat some fruit and a little Potato. Everything is offered but I'm sick and tired of buying prepping cooking and offering other food to throw away. Is it so bad for kids? They are strong happy healthy and above the charts for heights above 100 ,not weight. Lean and muscular. I don't know what to offer. I still have this inherited belief vegies are good and i need to give them. Any advice?

2 Comments
2024/11/23
09:12 UTC

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Anyone had success with experimenting?

I’m extremely worried to post this but has someone with a history of anorexia, this WOE has been extremely helpful. However at first trying to obey this diet down to a tee made me feel just as restrictive as I did with my ED. However allowing myself to some dairy and eggs has helped tremendously and my energy levels are higher. Is this okay or would this no longer be considered carnivore?

14 Comments
2024/11/22
23:21 UTC

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sugar cane in bacon

Hey so ive been on this diet for almost a week and I realized the bacon i've been eating has cane sugar :/ is this bad? I still feel the diet has been working like my mood is better for sure

update:Thanks for the comments! I stopped eating it for now

7 Comments
2024/11/22
23:13 UTC

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