Sometimes i think about reverting back to Christianity, but i just cant let myself. My siblings were quite mean when they found out I was Christian (They are both atheists.)

I think my biggest fear is doomsday or the day of judgement. What if God is real, and I have to stand there and explain myself. I hope Hell isnt as bad as they describe it. But i'd say im more scared about the actual day than Hell itself. the idea that one second i'll just be chilling, then the next second (literally) all Hell breaks lose.

Anyone know how to stop thinking about doomsday ??

I've left Catholicism more than a year ago. The main reason why I left is my disbelief in real presence in the eucharist, but I also highly doubt resurrection and God's existence. While I feel that my agnosticism is in accordance with my actual belief, I miss the comfort that comes with religion. When I was a Catholic, I had a faith that God will bring me only as much suffering as I can manage, and if something bad happened, God had a reason for that. Now I'm afraid of the uncertainty of life; there are many bad things that can happen (e.g. a serious disease) and I'm afraid I won't be able to solve these problems or even won't be able to recognize that there's a problem until it will be too late. I miss the feeling that an omnipotent and omniscient being has a control over my life and I'm safe. Now I have to deal with the reality that I'm resposible for my own life, and I don't even have full control over it because there are so many factors that contribute (society, genetics, the past etc.).

I have no idea how to cope. I don't want to go back to Catholicism because I feel like a liar practising it without belief. Another option would be to "invent" my own idea of supernatural being that cares for me, but I doubt my faith would be strong enough to provide comfort.

Please help me :')

I’m no longer a Christian. I just gave away my bible and the cross on my wall. I feel liberated and peaceful. My question is what should I do next ?

Backstory: I grew up in the Bible Belt with an ultra religious mom. She made me pray everyday and go to the church. When I moved to NYC for college she gave me her bible and a cross and made me promise to have these close by me always and pray each night. I kept doing it but over time realized these were my only ties to the Christianity. I stopped going to the church. I had an Indian girlfriend once and I was freaked out when I entered her temple (not sure why)

I finally realized that my religion was just my moms control over me. As soon as I realized this I was done with it. Everything. I also realized that I was really an agnostic.

Should I celebrate my freedom by going back to my church with my new perspective? Or go to the Indian temple for observing this religion more objectively or just chill :). Thx.

What's the actual difference between saying "I know X" versus "I believe X"? The more I think about it, the more it seems like "knowledge" might just be a label we stick on our strongest beliefs.

People often define knowledge as "justified true belief," but that definition starts falling apart as soon as you poke it. When we say a belief is "justified," what does that really mean? Every belief we hold feels justified to us at the time - that's why we hold it. Even people with completely contradictory beliefs usually think their beliefs are well-justified. And we can't really determine if a belief is "true" without relying on... other beliefs we hold.

So what work is the word "know" actually doing? When someone says "I know X," it seems like they're really just saying "I believe X very strongly and I think my reasons are really good." But that's still just a belief with confidence attached to it.

This isn't to say all beliefs are equally valid or that we can't have better or worse reasons for believing things. But maybe we should stop pretending there's this magical category called "knowledge" that's fundamentally different from belief. Maybe we should just be more honest about the fact that everything we think we "know" is really just stuff we believe with varying degrees of confidence and varying quality of evidence.

What do you think? Is there actually any meaningful distinction between knowledge and belief? Or is "I know X" just a dressed-up way of saying "I really really believe X"?

Hate to post this but I'm really at my wit's end.

I was raised Christian but currenrly consider myself an agnostic deist. From time to time these thoughts about my religion and my faith would creep into mind and stop me from doing almost literally ANYTHING else except think. I get scared that I'm going to hell, that my Buddhist father is going to hell, that everyone I love is going to hell (I'm from a country where christianity is like only 1% of the population).

Most of the time I wouldnt give much care about this, but when I do I would feel like nothing in this life matters as when I die I'll just be in torments. I would look at the world and think 'why does any of this matter?'. I would lose my appetite, my sleep, and my drive to pursue my passion. Whenever I try to distract myself, it doesn't work. Even when Im playing games or watching movies, these thoughts would come and remind me that none of this matters if god is real.

I HAVE heard of that one quote by marcus aurelius that goes

"Live a good life. If there are Gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are Gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no Gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."

but I would soon come to realize that it doesnt apply here because no matter how good a life I have lived, if I don't believe, I am going to hell nonetheless.

I am currently exploring theism, agnosticism, atheism and multiple other doctrines. I have read upon hundreds of hundreds of arguments for all sides in hopes that I might finally come to a logical conclusion. But alas, nothing works. I admit and recognize that I'll never know everything, but I just cant seem to live with that espically when I realize will go to hell if I dont believe. And even then, I can't bring myself to believe. If I believe it would be out of fear, not out of love, and even if I believe out of love those doubts I've gathered from reading the atheist point of view will still mess with my faith.

I don't want answers for or against faith. I just want answers as to how I can overcome this stress and go back to living a life where I can look at this beautiful world and don't immediently think 'none of this matters'.

Sorry for the lengthly post.

Tldr; I dont know what to believe. Distractions dont work, exploring faith doesn't work, and believing doesn't work. Don't want answers to faith as they are useless, I just want answers as to how I can worry less about this and leave the afterlife problems to my elderly or afterlife self (if it exists).

From my birth to 12 I was a Christian. I’m 13 now and agnostic. The reason I switched was because my brother told me he was atheist and knowing Christians, atheism = hell in their eyes. So I asked my mom about it (she is Catholic just not very religious) and she said they only say that to keep you in the religion. This had me thinking… why would they only say these things to keep people in their religion? Then I thought about it and decided that I just didn’t really know and didn’t know if it was possible for there to be a god. Now all I receive is hate from people at school, everything has gone wrong for me. Every girl I’ve been interested in has either rejected me or been grossed out. I need help. I have therapy. I’m not bringing this up to my therapist.

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I am a long time agnostic. I am at a point that if there was undeniable proof that something existed, I still wouldn't want to be a follower. I am not sure if that makes sense or if anyone feels the same. For example, let's just say that the christian god existed. I'd say thanks, but no thanks. If I died, I'd probably end up in hell, but let's just say I had a chance to get into heaven, I would respectfully ask if I can live in purgatory. Maybe that is weird, but I don't want to spend eternity having to worship something. I am probably over simplifying things, but I wonder if I could exist outside of religion in the afterlife if their is an afterlife. Anyone else ever feel this way? I am sure many would be running to get into heaven, so I get it. End of rant!

I was born in 1990. I was raised catholic and went to catholic schools all the way through high school. I typically attended church on Sunday and had communion My parents left the catholic church and went to a christian church during my high school years. I did not make the transition. I was really into reading all kinds of philosophies, just enough to get a general sense of them, nothing too deep. I questioned my beliefs and in college I realized that I was definitely more on the agnostic side of things, which I fully embraced. I don't believe in any god, gods, deities, or religions, etc. Could a god, gods, or deities exist? I would say it is possible. Have I seen any concrete evidence to prove it? No, not yet at least. Am I desperate to find out? No, not really, but I would not ignore any proof that something exist.

Anyway, the last few years I feel more of an ick and weirdness with seeing so many of my family, peers, friends, or people in general praising, praying, and/or worshiping god, a lot of which is on social media. It feels so cult-like. One of the latest examples is one mom saying that they were so proud of their 4/5 year old putting their hand on her forehead and praying for them as they lay down. I am not a big fan of what I feel like is indoctrination of young minds into a cult-like atmosphere.

My 9 year son has started to ask general questions and I told him we can read books about the world religions and have time to learn about what is out there. I am not going to steer him one direction. I want it to be conversational for him so that he can make up his own mind and be able to justify/explain his thought process. Ramble over!

hello, i (f21) is a former very catholic. i grew up in a sacred family that practices catholicism religiously. i also just finished my prayers every friday, i completed a set of 12 weeks straight, shows how devoted i am.

but then, i fell out of it. i was praying since i was a kid and i never felt god is listening. none of my prayers has been answered. during my 12 weeks of devotion, i only prayed for 2 things, first is good health especially for my grandma whom i love the most and my happiness.

months had passed, her sick gotten worst and im also diagnosed with some menstrual complications due to huge amount of stress.

i do still think he exist but i don’t wanna acknowledge anymore.. i got so tired during my times of desperation, nobody helped me, not even him.

is there any belief that this fall into? am i still a christian, atheist, agnostic? idk.. i can’t understand myself either.

Needing help finding good books for my young child. They are being informed about Christianity from society and I would like to start educating them on all of the primary religions including atheism and being agnostic.

Any suggestions would be sooo helpful! We want to simply educate and explain it’s up to them to decide what they believe over their lifetime and of course that we (the parents) don’t believe in any of them.

Yeah, that's right. hell is a made-up myth to keep people coming to church. if there is a hell, it is in this life. i am in hell now after losing my beloved dog after 14 years. i dearly hope there is an afterlife with her spirit floating on top of a cloud. but even if there is a "god", if that "god" is a loving one, he/she/it would not condemn people to "hell" for not believing in him/her/it or some other god. for example, 2/3 of humanity is not christian!!!

below is a copy/paste about hell from a wikipedia article about "hell" vvv

The Christian doctrine of hell derives from passages in the New Testament. The English word hell does not appear in the Greek New Testament; instead one of three words is used: the Greek words Tartarus or Hades, or the Hebrew word Gehinnom.

• Gehenna refers to the "Valley of Hinnom", which was a garbage dump outside of Jerusalem. It was a place where people burned their garbage and thus there was always a fire burning there.^([)^(contradictory)^(]) Bodies of those deemed to have died in sin without hope of salvation (such as people who committed suicide) were thrown there to be destroyed.^([68]) Gehenna is used in the New Testament as a metaphor for the final place of punishment for the wicked after the resurrection.^([69])

I think these two videos deserved to be here and discussed because it deals with rejecting religion/traditions and how the younger generation, Zoomers, deal with purposelessness.

The Death Of Culture: Why Gen Z Hates Tradition

Gen Z Is Dealing With The Meaning Crisis Through Memes

(21M) After high school I got super religious with Catholicism. I was really into it. I went to daily mass, I prayed everyday, I read scripture. But then I feel out of it. The things that the church taught I just fundamentally disagreed with. Abortion, gay marriage, scripture teaching. Being bisexual myself didn’t help my faith any. At the time I felt really lost and just felt abandoned almost. So I got really into paganism more specifically Santa Muerte. I was really scared to start devotion with her but everything ended up calming down with her. But to be honest I don’t think I don’t feel anything. I don’t even know if I believe in spiritual stuff. I used to believe in stuff like that. But I’m not so sure anymore. I feel a lot of fear mongering with leaving her. Devotee’s will say this is life time commitment, she will take things from you. I feel that same fear mongering when I left the Catholic Church. I don’t know i just feel scared and alone.

Has any agnostic or atheist ever taken it? I'm curious now because it has a very spiritual side

I find it so interesting how toxic religious ideology can still exist in agnostic or atheist communities. In my opinion, this shows the real toxic and controlling ideologies are harder to leave than the religion where it was learned. 🙏🧠🌍💖🤔💪🌟💔😂✨💬🌱
If you’ve ever experienced fear-based teachings, feelings of unworthiness, or anxiety from growing up in a strict religious environment, you’re not alone! Religious trauma, or Religious Trauma Syndrome (RTS), describes the lasting emotional and psychological effects of harmful religious teachings and practices. In this video, we dive into what religious trauma is, how it shows up in everyday life, and most importantly, how to heal.
Religious trauma isn’t just a personal issue; it affects how we think, trust ourselves, and interact with the world. From childhood indoctrination to the struggle of rebuilding self-worth, this journey is difficult but possible. Let’s laugh and unpack this together.

https://youtu.be/q7mqmvV15CI

Do YOU have Religious Trauma? I do.
00:00 Introduction
05:01 What is Religious Trauma?
06:13 Fear-Based Teachings
10:22 Rules around Worthiness
13:39 Isolation from the “Outside World"
16:31 Is Religious Trauma EVEN Real?
18:32 Could Religious Trauma Happen in ANY Religion?
22:03 Is Religion Bad?
23:49 Positive Aspects of Religion
28:24 The Dark Side of Religion
33:56 The Bottom Line
35:44 How Do We Heal?
37:33 Step 1: Understanding the Impact of Religious Trauma
39:21 Step 2: Rebuilding Self-Identity
43:13 Step 3: Reclaiming Spirituality (Or Not)
46:35 Step 4: Relearning Healthy Boundaries
49:20 Step 5: Finding Support and Building Community
51:18 Step 6: Embracing Self-Compassion
53:01 Conclusion

This video is based on personal experiences and research. I am not a mental health professional. Please consult a qualified professional for advice specific to your situation.

I’m a 17 year old who has super religious parents. For all my life I’ve believed in allah and if I didn’t, I would burn in hell forever. That deeply rooted fear kept me a Muslim, not love for my religion. I feel like Islam is an old, man oriented religion — one with stupid rules that just don’t make sense. Why should a man marry outside a religion when women cannot? Why must we pray 5 times a day to a god that is said to be all loving, all forgiving? Why hate the gays if that’s just who they are? Why did god shun them when they’re people too? When they love like you and I? Maybe all of these rules are made by man and god really is all loving? I’ve been exploring all religions and Christianity is just as bad to me. Honestly, I’m so scared of hell, of being wrong. I just want to be reassured that I’m not the only one with these thoughts.

Hi everyone. I just joined today. I’ve been a Christian my whole life. Went to Christian schools from pre school through college. Church every single Sunday. I starting doubting everything about 10 years ago. I’m married to a very strong Christian man and have 7 children, 3 who are very strong Christians, 3 who are sort of cultural Christians and one who isn’t a Christian at all. I go to church but analyze it the whole time. I try to read my Bible and pray but I don’t seem to notice any difference if I don’t. I find it difficult to be Christian because the message is not one I support…believe in Me or else burn in hell forever. Also I can not get behind not supporting the LGBTQ+ community. I don’t know what I believe and I think I’m ok with that for now. 🙂

A few months back I started questioning myself. There are so many successful people who are/were atheist/agnostic like bill gates, warren buffet, and elon musk until recently (just to name a few cliche names). They're pretty succesful. Many religious people pray for such success.

Some successful people are agnostic. Some are atheist. Some are religious. What do they have in common? They're successful. Just proves that regardless of your belief in god, if you work hard and smart, you're gonna get successful.

I also think being religious is a waste of resources in religions like Hinduism where you're expected to perform costly rituals and such, which take a lot of time and money which you could've invested in your success in a method which you can control instead of just sitting and hoping and praying you become successful, especially since your opinion on god has no effect on your success (as shown in the previous paragraph).

I don't get religious people, like, have they not thought of this or do they close their eyes and ears when they hear such things? It seems to me that they're following God blindly and that he has no effect on daily life. I can understand people who are religious because they're going through a really rough patch and need a figure like god to look up to and see as the distant light at the other side of the tunnel, but people who aren't really in bad times? Why are they religious?

This post contains spoilers for Knock at the Cabin. If you haven't seen it yet, give it a watch. If you don't care about spoilers, read on.

The movie is about 4 strangers holding a gay couple and their daughter hostage, telling them that they have to make a sacrifice by having them kill one of their loved ones to prevent the end of the world. The 4 strangers claimed seeing visions of the apocalypse. The condition for the sacrifice is you cannot commit suicide and that one must do the killing. The 4 strangers can't kill for them.

The 4 strangers died one by one through sacrifice and a suicide. The gay spouse, Andrew and Eric, doesn't believe their warnings and it turns out, the apocalypse is real and unfolding in real time. Andrew remains scepctical till the end but Eric slowly come to accept that the apocalypse is real and it's due to them not making the sacrifice. Eric said that he saw a vision/figure and become convinced in its truth. In the end, Andrew kills Eric and the apocalypse is averted.

It also goes to mention that the couple faced bigotry and shunness by Andrew's parents. Andrew said it isn't fair that they have to give up their loved ones to save the world while the world doesn't accept them, that humanity is destroying each other. Eric said that giving up for something beautiful is worthwhile, because their daughter gets to grow up and live in a saved world than an apocalypse.

This got me really thinking how would atheists/non-religious react and feel about this. I read some comments on r/movies saying that atheists will continually deny the truth no matter what even though biblical apocalypse and catastrophe is unfolding in front of them.

What do you guys think?

Being agnostic often feels like a burden. I believe that anything is possible, so I don't adhere to any particular "rules." I'm sure many of you can relate, given this is the Agnostic subreddit, but it's still overwhelming.

Every day, I try to figure out if I believe in anything at all. I grew up Christian, though it was more out of tradition than conviction. But I, unlike many in my family, decided to study our Christian denomination at a young age. That’s when I started becoming afraid of religion. The radical Christians around me, warning of the coming end times based on their distorted visions, made me doubt everything. What bothered me the most was the idea that life required us to be almost perfect and fully obedient to have any chance of an afterlife. I couldn’t reconcile with the idea of immortality either. I kept wondering, "Will I get bored? Is it all just a repetition? What if my loved ones end up in hell? And if I do, will I ever have the chance to truly live by God?" These questions haunted me, and no one seemed to have clear answers.

I explored other religions like Buddhism and Hinduism, hoping to find alignment. But just like with Christianity, I found myself questioning too many things without any answers.

I even delved into spiritualism and witchcraft, thinking it might resonate, but once again, doubt crept in.

What really frustrates me is how every belief system I’ve encountered urges me to just believe, to have faith, and not let my subconscious question things. How can I not? How can I not try to understand and challenge these ideas?

I can’t even embrace agnosticism without doubting it.

It feels like everyone else has figured themselves out (settled into their labels and beliefs) while I remain stuck in uncertainty. It doesn't help that I've explored so many systems and half-believed in them, but I don’t want to completely dismiss their frameworks either.

I’m not even Christian, yet I still keep track of my "sins." I’m not a tarot reader, but I still analyze messages I think I’ve received from spiritual guides.

I guess I have time to figure things out, but I want a stable life, a partner, a family. My main worry is that I’ll build my life on values or beliefs that I think are right, only to change them later, causing conflict. What if my partner follows a certain religion, and I decide to join them, only for me to abandon it years down the line? That could make or break a relationship.

I really want to understand where I stand, but it feels like I stand everywhere. I can’t tell if I’m just naive, trying to believe a little in everything, or if I’m overcomplicating everything.

I guess my issues are: Religious fear, overlapping ideas, a desire for certainty, philosophical beliefs, and fear of future conflict due to my nature of not being able to settle. I'm too open-minded.

Can anyone relate, or are most people just chill agnostics?

How do people just live their lives without a second thought?

Hello ! If I organise a casual ex-religious outing/dinner, so like-minded people and anyone who understands all the complexities that come with leaving religion can meet and connect, would anyone here come ? Allies/understanding people who don't brush off uncomfortable topics are welcome too !!!

(Part of me always belived in a god, but after seeing buddhism and nagajurna, the entirety of reality seems a mistery/paradox.

Since the idea of an uncaused timeless substance, is basically atrributing the entirety of multiplicty of the universe, to a singular unity unbound by multiplicity.

Trying to explain the cause of multiplicity, by something of a completely different nature of/to the effect itself.Explain multiplicity of forms, by a formless unmultiple. The many by a one.

But at the same time, explaining the existence of multiplicity, with even more multiples? Paradox too.

(Idk how to phrase this in a clearer way rn, feeling tired to type)

Hi, so, long story short, I need to believe in something. I seriously need to. It is not that I want to say "God exists", and just that. I want to completely believe from the bottom of my heart.

I have been a "christian", since I have memory because I went to a religious school. But, i dont know when, probably around 5 years ago, the idea of God started to feel less and less real. I said to myself that I believe in Him, but in reality i never did.

Now, i seriously need to believe in something, it is not that I need it to become a better person, or someone said it to me. I just have this feeling that i CAN NOT ignore. I can not explain it with words.

I have been having a rough time lately, and I know that believing in something that is not logical is going to make me feel better. I am a completely logical person, and that makes it difficult to believe.

Any advice? Anything is good. Sorry for the writing, english is not my first language.

Thank you a lot.

A short while ago, as I was heading to the café, two religious men approached me. They greeted me and started a conversation about worship and our need for it to express gratitude to God. Their way of speaking was unique and very respectful. I didn't want to argue with them or refuse the discussion, so I simply said, "Maybe another time, Inshallah" when they invited me to the mosque.

I remain steadfast in my beliefs and have no desire to engage in their rituals. However, I felt a sense of alienation, a lack of belonging, and some nostalgia for the beliefs of the society I grew up in, as I am non-religious, do not practice any individual or communal rituals, and lack faith in a higher power or what is referred to as God. One of the men was honest when he said that we need faith in God, not the other way around, as that faith, even if based on an illusion, fulfills human needs.

So a little backstory. I grew up very very religious. I got saved when I was 8, but I feel like I wasn’t indoctrinated or anything, I really did believe. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t fear. Anyways she is heavily religious, and as I turned around 15 I started wondering how god could be so all good and all knowing if bad things happen on the daily. I also thought to myself “how come Christians praise god for stupid things like a new car, when there’s kids dying at 4 because of cancer?” And naturally, I stopped going to church. I stopped reading the Bible, and stopped believing. Here I am, 16 years old, and she finally asks the question that I’ve been waiting for.. “so what’s going on? Why aren’t you going to church?” So, I told her that I don’t believe anything right now. Soon after I presented my arguments as to why I don’t believe. She starts having a breakdown. Tears, a little snot, weeping. (Mind you we’re in a restaurant) and she starts asking me how is she gonna live with herself if she knows I’ll go to hell if I die. Starts saying I don’t have anything if I don’t have Jesus. Starts saying she’s a terrible mother for letting me go down this path. (I soon after told her that she’s a good mother, and I wished religion didn’t make her feel that way) Luckily, after this breakdown, she chilled out and it felt normal again. She gave me a big hug later on before bed. So, what do you guys think because I’d love a 3rd person POV on this one.

It's quite tiring because no matter what all these just turns humans into machines working on the instruction of Bible.

I've always considered myself Agnostic since I fit most of the characteristics. However, there’s one thing that makes me question that label since I believe "something" is out there.

I wouldn’t call it "God" (especially not in the religious sense), it's like dark matter but in more complex way. It’s far beyond our understanding (again not the way that religious people say 😅)

To explain the beyond our understanding: imagine you create something that isn’t “alive”, it has no awareness or ability to comprehend your existence. That’s how I see us in relation to this “something”. We’re like that "not alive" thing (Sorry I am bad at explaining)

so again I don't believe we were created, or any of the other things that have not been proven, I just don't know. The only thing I believe is there's something.

I'm curious to hear what you guys broadly think about metaethics. It's notoriously difficult to get meaningful answers from laymen in this regard but I figured everyone in agnostic communities is probably versed enough in philosophy to have an opinion on this.

I'm a (non-natural) realist myself, which is the majority view among experts. But there's a significant enough portion of anti realists, even in academic circles, that the discussions are still worth having. What does everyone think and does it relate to your view on religion at all. Also particularly interested in hearing from those who turned agnostic from either being theist or atheist before, has your metaethics changed?

Personally, to me, you can not prove the existence of a being that would exist before time. That's why it's called a faith in the first place, isn't it? I personally lean toward the opinion that god either doesn't exist, or if one does exist, it'd be... unconcerned with us or just not the way any religion describes it. That's what my intituion tells me, hence my 'belief'. The problem I have with is, why does the world 'need' a creator? Assume there is a creator. Why does the creator have no creator? Maybe it doesn't have a beginning or an end and, therefore, is eternal? Why couldn't the universe itself be eternal? Does it need to be a consciousness? Heck, what if the universe does have a consciousness?

"The universe is so beautiful and perfect and complex, so it needs to have a creator because it's a design", it doesn't really make sense to me? We question the universe for we exist in it, but if the universe was different, we won't exist in it to begin with. Why... is it so hostile to us, then? What is the need for something like space to even exist? Why is the vast majority of it unused and empty? I really don't think it was a space made for just us. The stance of abrahamic about life from what I know and what I've heard is that this life is a test or a trial. Why is it so unfair then? Why have they gone so out of their way to make it so inefficient? Why have the proof they given so vague and full of words that can leave it open for so much interpretation in the first place? And, honestly, 'we can't possibly understand how god thinks' statement is kind of an excuse. Sure, not everything in the world can be answered, I'm aware of that but not even trying to reason it out is... just laziness. The same statement might have actually convinced me if there was only one religion, but... there are so many. No matter how I look at it, it kind of sets people up for failure... And, honestly, the heaven they mention, sounds to me like hell. What is a human without challenges? I'm no longer the same person really, if my ability to challenge myself is taken from me. It sounds kind of dystopian
to live a joyous life for an 'eternity'.

And, I respect everyone regardless of their beliefs because this is just a personal thing.

This said, I'm not perfect as that is impossible. Sure, there probably are some inconsistencies in my logic, and if you find one, please challenge it, maybe I realize something. I'd also love to talk with you if you have similar belief and reasoning.