Hey all, I’m just wondering if there’s a market for older minis and where one would find them. I’m in love with Mark 4 and want to focus on the new stuff, so I’ve got a fair amount of Crucible Guard to unload.

On this special bonus episode of Shop Talk: I sit down with David, Luke, Bryan and Andrei to discuss our experience playing in the North American Wartable League last month. This particular 4 week league was held as a WTC style 5 person Team event.

We discuss the team formation, lead up and describe our games round by round. We had a phenomenal time discussing all kinds of topics as a team, sharing our knowledge and rooting for each other.

The cast can be found here: https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/marioreisarruda/episodes/2024-12-01T19_34_45-08_00

Or here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/250C843oTjsFFeKttcpIOl?si=1mTlTRdXS0qv9-Bev7GBnA

Or here https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shop-talk-bonus-episode-team-5-neat-guys/id1656286960?i=1000678848908

This team has truly been a beautiful experience and I had hoped to share a little bit of that with all of you.

I want to get into this game as I love almost all the models. I saw that they are made of resin and I have a 3d printer at home. I wondering does the company sell stls for their models? As still spending 150 dollars CAD is a bit expensive and I'd like to get my newphews into the game too. If anyone can help that would be great!

What are the best books to buy, and the best place to get them digitally, if you're just into the art and lore?

I was a big fan of Warmahordes since it was first released. I actually got my first jack from Mike McVey personally. What is the new version like? Is it worth getting back in right now? I have an unpainted trollblood army I have an urge to paint.

What the hell happened?!? The last game I really played was with a trollbloods EE army. Has the game TOTALLY changed???

as sayed in the title, will a rhulic army themed return?

Are you assembling, converting, painting, or generally *hobbying* anything this week? Show it off here!

Steamforge has been promoting a Black Friday sale and I was ready to invest, only to find out it's just really a clearance sale and nothing for Warmachine.

Man I miss the old Privateer Press.

So far, Steamforge has just been a disappointment at a higher cost.

Sad

I am thinking about getting the Borealis and Avalanche. But I prefer to put their arms and head onto a normal Warjack body for customization purposes. Is that doable?

Thanks.

After being in the box for almost a year, I've decided it's time to start working on this lot of my back log.

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This post is intended to serve as an index to different guides, resources, and tools that have been created by the community as well as official resources published by Steamforged Games. We will continue to update this index with new content over time.

FAQ

• Q: I have an existing Warmachine & Hordes collection, can I still use my old models?
• A: Yes, all existing models are still playable in MK4. See the Returning Players Guide for more details
• Q: Is Hordes gone?
• A: The Hordes branding has been discontinued, but everything that was once Hordes is now contained within the Warmachine brand. There are still Factions and Armies that use Fury and Warbeasts, they're just all called Warmachine now.
• Q: What happened to Privateer Press?
• A: Steamforged Games has acquired the Iron Kingdoms IP and all it's associated games from Privateer Press, however PP still develops the game rules. Think of it like a video game publisher/developer relationship; SFG handles overall direction, marketing, and distribution while PP focuses on rules development.
• Q: Is there a physical rulebook or cards?
• A: All the rules are now centralized in the Warmachine App, a free app that gives players access to all the games rules and models from one place. You can print lists from the PC and Mac versions of the App, however the card format of previous editions is not officially supported. SFG has acknowledged the requests for a rules PDF but nothing has been released at time of writing; a slightly-older PDF can be found in the Other Resources section, along with some fan-made solutions for cards.
• Q: Do I need to paint my models to match the official color scheme?
• A: Absolutely not. Some large events will require that models be painted and any events run by SFG will generally ban anything that infringes another IP (like painting a Batman logo on your warjacks). Besides that you're free to go nuts.
• Q: Is it okay to proxy out of print models in tournaments?
• A: This is going to depend on the event you're playing in. Generally official tournaments run by Steamforged Games are going to disallow any proxying, however smaller events may be more comfortable with proxies given how hard some Legacy models are to find. Your best bet is always to ask the Event Organizer ahead of time before the day of the event.

Getting Started

• Official Warmachine site
• New Player Guide
• Returning Players Guide
• Warmachine App

Community

• Community Finder Tool
• Running Demos
• Running Events
• SFG Discord Server
• Unofficial Warmachine Discord Server
• Official Warmachine Facebook group

Official Resources

• Latest Roadmap
• SFG Store

Other Resources

• Soul Samuri Card Creator
• Steamroller Lightweight Scenario Measurement Tool
• Mk4 Concept Art Gallery

So you’re interested in Warmachine but you don’t know where to start. This guide is intended to explain some of the basic concepts of the game and point you in the right direction for more detailed information.

• bold terms are important rules terms that may be referenced elsewhere in the Guide or can be found in the core rules.
• italicized terms are fiction terms from the Iron Kingdoms setting that don’t have any bearing on the rules of Warmachine.

What is Warmachine?

Warmachine is a 32mm heroic-scale miniatures wargame set in the Iron Kingdoms setting. Players take control of a force of models lead by a powerful battle mage and their battlegroup of magically-bound robots and war beasts.

Starting out

Often the first thing anyone wants to do when they start a wargame is find some cool miniatures that they want to play with. In Warmachine that means picking an Army. Additionally it’s a good idea to install the Warmachine App on your phone or computer. The app is free to use and contains all the core rules as well as rules for every model, a list builder, and a play function where you can track things like damage during a game. The App is the main source of truth for Warmachine and the only official resource for model rules at time of writing.

Factions & Armies

Warmachine models are organized a few different ways that can be a bit confusing at first glance.

A model’s Faction is the nation or organization that the model belongs to, such as Cygnar or Southern Kriels. Often there will be abilities on a model that refer to it’s Faction (for example: “Target friendly Faction model...”) but otherwise it’s not a super important term for buying models and building lists.

Each Faction has one or more Armies, which are the core building block of any list. Your Army is what determines the models you can take and the spells available to you, and it is the selection you’ll want to make when you’re starting out your collection. Two models from the same Faction but different Armies cannot be used in the same list; only models from the same Army (or mercenaries, which we’ll get to later) can be used in the same list.

For example both Storm Legion and Gravediggers are Armies in the Cygnar Faction. However, you cannot make a Gravediggers list lead by the Storm Legion warcaster Athena di Baro because she is not part of the Gravediggers. That said, if you are playing a 2v2 game and one team is made up of a Storm Legion list and a Gravediggers list those models will all be considered friendly Faction models for any abilities or spells.

Cadres are the exception to this rule and represent specialized forces within a Faction that work alongside different Armies depending on need. Cadres come in their own box and can be used alongside forces from one or more Armies in a Faction. For example the models in the Storm Forge Cadre box can be used in any Storm Legion or Gravediggers list.

Mercenaries are guns-for-hire who will work for a number of Armies. Each mercenary model has a rule that defines what Armies they can be included in.

Model Types

Leaders

Every force is commanded by mighty battle mages called Warcasters, Warlocks, or Masters. The term Leader is used as an umbrella to refer to any of these models, though warcasters, warlocks, and masters all have their own specialized rules for gaining magical energy and controlling the constructs or beasts bound to them.

Warcasters

Warcasters are the paragon of the technological warrior in Western Immoren. Gifted at birth with the unique ability to bond with the magically-infused technology called mechanika, they march to battle clad in advanced powered armor and wield the most advanced technology and magic of their age. Warcasters gain focus every turn that they can spend to cast spells or control their warjacks or monstrosities.

Warcasters of various Armies

Warlocks

Warlocks are the personification of nature’s wrath. Warlocks come from a variety of backgrounds and magical traditions, but all of them utilize their magic and their ability to bond to warbeasts to go toe-to-toe with the more advanced technology of other peoples of Western Immoren. Warlocks force their warbeasts to generate fury that they can siphon off to cast their spells.

Warlocks of Brineblood Maruaders and Shadowflame Shard

Masters

Infernal masters are powerful beings from another plane of existence, here to claim the souls of humanity for their dark gods. Masters currently only appear in the Infernals Faction. Masters sacrifice their own infantry to gain essence every turn that they can spend to cast spells and control their horrors.

An Infernal Master

Cohorts

Every Leader controls a battlegroup of Cohort models, be they warjacks, warbeasts, horrors, or monstrosities. Like Leader, Cohort is an umbrella term to refer to any of these models.

Cohort Loadouts

Most Cohort models are modular. When you make your list you are able to select from several options for arms, heads, or other Hardpoints to change the abilities and weapons the model will bring into battle. Some Cohort models, such as characters and most Cadre Cohort models, have a single static configuration. Single-configuration Cohort models will either be a standalone kit in the case of Command Starters and Command Cadres or a set of Hardpoints that can be added to a modular body in the case of the Core Expansion.

Modular Cohort Models

Most Armies have 2 types of modular Cohort models, usually 1 light and 1 heavy (currently Winter Korp and Shadowflame Shard are the exception with 2 heavy Cohort models). Modular Cohort models are made up of a body and 10-12 Hardpoint options split between a few slots. So for example a Winter Korp Great Bear has 3 Hardpoint slots for the Head, Left Arm, and Right Arm and there are 4 choices for each of those slots. The Shadowflame Shard Hydrix as 4 Hardpoint slots for it's Central, Left, and Right heads and it's Dorsal Feature with 3 options for the Central head, 5 for the Left and Right heads, and 3 for the Dorsal Feature.

Modular Cohort models are available in the Battlegroup Box or as individual purchases with all of their available loadout options. Additionally the Core Army Expansion comes with an alternate pose of one of the modular Cohort bodies and the Hardpoint options needed to make one of the Army's Character Cohort models. These bodies are compatible with the Hardpoint options from the Battlegroup or individual Cohort boxes, allowing you to mix-and-match parts between the two using their included magnet holes (magnets not included).

Fixed Cohort models are available in the Command Starter Box, Cadre Box, and some 80mm Boxes. These Cohort models do not have swappable parts and can represent a Character model (in the case of the Command Starter) or a non-character Cohort model. (edited)Cohort Loadouts Modular Cohort Models.

Warjacks

Warjacks are autonomous constructs of magic and science, capable of independent action but greatly enhanced by the presence of a warcaster. Warjacks can also be operated by ’jack marshals using verbal commands and hand signals, though they are generally less effective than a warcaster that directly links to the warjack’s artificial mind.

Heavy Warjacks of Storm Legion, House Kallyss, and Sea Raiders

Monstrosities

Born of horrific experimentation or brutal conditioning, monstrosities are living beings whose free will has been completely stripped away, leaving them little more than biological machines. Incapable of free thought, these beings must be controlled by a warcaster on the battlefield.

A Sea Raider monstrosity

Warbeasts

Warbeasts are the great beasts of Immoren bound to the will of a warlock. Via conditioning, training, or the bonds of kinship they have submitted to a warlock’s command but they still retain their sentience and instincts. A warlock may push the warbeast to surpass it’s normal physical limits by stoking it’s fury. However if they’re not careful the beast may break control and frenzy, attacking anyone in it’s vicinity be they friend or foe.

The Brineblood Marauders Deep Born Dire Troll and Shadowflame Shard Hydrix heavy warbeasts

Horrors

Shaped from the souls of countless victims, horrors are the backbone of the Infernal invasion. With no free will or desires beyond slaughter they must be controlled by a master in order to stay bound to the physical world.

An Infernal Desolator heavy horror

Building your collection

Building your Warmachine collection is intended to be a smooth, easy-to-understand process that lets you ramp up at your own pace. Each Army is split into a number of boxes, all with various collections of models intended to expand your listbuilding options. Since the contents of each box is unique you don't need to worry about ending up with extra models you can't use.

• A Command Starter: Which contains a Leader, a Character Cohort, a Character Solo, and a Character Unit. These are designed to be able to play 30 point games immediately. Price: $79.99 USD
• Some Mk4 Armies (currently Sea Raiders, Storm Legion, Winter Korp, Brineblood Marauders, House Kallyss, and Shadowflame Shard) do not have Command Starters at this time. Instead their recommended equivalent is a Command Cadre box for their respective Faction, which is a playable force of the same size as a Command Box. Price: $99.99 USD
• A Battlegroup Box: Which includes a Leader and a set of Cohort models (usually one heavy and one light, but sometimes two heavies. The upcoming Cryx will be one heavy and two lights). These are designed to combine with a Command Starter to allow 50 point games. Price: $69.99 USD
• A Core Expansion: Which includes another Leader, a Character Cohort with the alternate body/chassis, and a “selection of solos, units, and attachments.” On average, it seems to contain 3-4 units, 1-2 command attachments, and 1-2 solos. These are designed to combine with a Command Starter and Battlegroup Box to allow for 75 point games with some options, and bring a player close to 100 points. Price: $159.99 USD
• An Auxiliary Expansion: Which includes a third Leader and a “selection of solos, units, and attachments.” On average, it seems to contain 2-4 units and 2-3 solos, but it varies. These are designed to allow for 100 point games, or a lot of options at 75 points. Price: $149.99 USD
• An 80mm model. Price: about $75-100 USD depending on the model
• An "Apotheosis" Leader. Price: about $25-35 USD
• A 120mm modular Cohort model. Price: about $150 USD depending on the model

Buying one of each of these boxes will get you at least 1 of every model in the Army. Individual models can be purchased from SFG to fill out your Field Allowances or to expand your force with compatible Mercenary models.

A handy buying guide made by LDukes

A note on "Legacy" models

All models released before the start of Mk4 in Fall 2022 are "Legacy" models. These models are out of print for various reasons but still have rules and are legal for play, though they won't be getting any new releases. Since they are out of print they aren't a recommended starting point for new player, but you may end up playing against them or even find a good deal on a collection of Legacy models you like the look of. The important thing is that all Legacy models use the same rules as Mk4 models and are fully compatible. Masters and Horrors are currently only available in the Infernals Legacy Faction.

Though bound by the same core set of rules as MKIV models, Legacy models/armies do lack the following traits unique to MKIV:

• Spell Racks - Rather than 1-3 static spells and access to a number of Spell Rack slots to customize each game, Legacy leader models have an entirely static spell list. They do, however, tend to have a greater number of total spells than their MKIV counterparts, in theory to make up for the relative lack of flexibility.

• Modular/Customizable cohorts - Rather than a warjack/warbeast/monstrosity with customizable slots, each Legacy cohort model has an unchanging stat line and weapon/ability loadout. You will find, however, that many Legacy cohorts do share a common "chassis" which is then further specialized by specific weapons, abilities, etc. For example, Legion of Everblight's Scythean, Ravagore and Carnivean all have a similar body style and share many base stats, but are each has weapons and an animus specialized for melee, ranged or mixed-arms playstyles, respectively. Additionally, most (if not all) Legacy armies will have a greater total number of cohort models available to them, again, to compensate for the lack of customizability.

• Cadres - Rather than a standalone SKU containing models compatible with more than 1 army, Legacy armies simply have some overlap with regard to their available models.

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I like the SFG Warmachine app. It is good, efficient, and is free for the essential part.
So why would anyone want to pay 5,49€ per month ?
Serious question, on the one hand I'd like to subscribe, it seems a bit steep though, being a monthly subscription.

You get to make all the lists you want, yeah OK, this isn't really much of a boon though, because we can save lists elsewhere and use the same 6 slots over and over...If really necessary. I think it's great that SFG haven't done the vile disgusting GW way where the app allows one list and only for index factions, once the army book is released, then you have to subscribe...Or else.

In the Warmachine app you also get access to the background material. Now a book a month could easily cost more than 5.49€ but who has the time to read? (maybe I should make time rather than typing on reddit?) and the thing is the flouffe is available only while subscribed. Subscription ended and it's gone. Can't go back to nostalgically flip through the pages. No going back to check just how did Deneghra seduce Caine?
We're truly in the age of "you will own nothing" but I can't say I'm liking it.

Should we ponder and think back to the days of the PP war room app, where we could pay subscription or lump sum and it would be for ever updated and access to everything? Well, forever didn't last too long. All the money that went into that is long gone.

Then again someone is writing this stuff and those people deserve to get paid. We can't expect sales revenues from the Dark souls board game to cover everything.

So that's the dilemma, I kinda want to subscribe, but it feels a bit expensive and a bit constrictive as a monthly subscription. So what else could they possibly put behind the paywall for a playa (be they filthy casual or sweaty tryhard) to make the jump? What could possibly go behind a paywall that wouldn't deter from the idea of a free and accessible game?

I used to collect Cygnar during mk2 and mk3. When mk4 dropped I couldn't play due to life events, but about a year in I bought my mates Orgoth off him, and later sold my Cygnar.

However the Gun Mage cadre and now the Gravediggers is making me feel nostalgic for my favourite old stuff. But I can't really bear the idea of collecting something almost identical to what I used to have.

I understand why it had to happen from a business pov, but it makes me sad that whole ranges of fantastic models were shelved, just to be replaced by something close to, if not identical. Like, there was nothing wrong with any of the old stuff.

Does anyone else feel the same way about their old factions being recreated?

We're pleased to announce that you can once again set your user flair to match your Faction (Legacy) or Army (MKIV) of your choice! We'll keep the list of options updated as new imagery becomes available!

I'm new to the hobby and I was wondering if it is expected for me to paint my models in keeping with the established faction colors, or can I make up my own scheme? I know, "my toys, paint them how I want", but what is the general feeling out there? Is it accepted to have my Cygnar army in green, or black, or purple? What about red, or is that reserved for Khador?

Has anyone had any issues with the app? I can get it working on my phone, my PC, and one of my two tablets (the one with only WiFi connectivity), but my Verizon tablet won't load the app. It's a TCL Tab 8 Plus, if that matters.