I understand that Tully had a reputation not unlike his daughter in that, Tully was known for being an asshole and think of how much of a dick you have to be to be considered an asshole in a 1980s wrestling locker-room?

But Tully was also one of the top heels of the territory days, but as far as I know, he never wrestled under the WCW banner outside of this one match he had with Terry Funk in the early 1990s.

What if Tully actually got his act together and returned to the ring for WCW in the 1990s, putting him back with the Horsemen would be an easy choice but even before then, Tully would have been a great fit for the Dangerous Alliance faction as Arn Anderson was already there and Tully would have surely been a better tag team partner for Arn than Larry fucking Zybasko?

Much like how WWE has multiple different eras in there history( attitude era 97-02, ruthless aggression era, 02-08, PG era 08-13, etc.), you'll think that WCW has had a few different eras during there time of operation.

What would you say are the different eras of WCW as well as the years those eras took place?

Would be nice to have Raven and DDP's themes on there. Don't know if they are trying to avoid legal issues since some are clear ripoffs.

It’s the end of 2024 but I still enjoy this from time to time

Over the year, I rewatched the 1999 chapter of the Monday Night War, and here are some key takeaway retrospective points from Nitro that I thought I'd share with you all (semi-long)

● The nWo Elite/Fingerpoke of Doom wasn't necessary, but despite popular opinion, I thought the group was solid and put focus back on the original core members. I truly think that the nWo Elite was going to lead to a permanent endgame for the nWo story in WCW, but Scott Hall, Lex Luger, and Scott Steiner getting injured within months of each other really hurt any plans of that. I will say that it was a missed opportunity to capitalize on Hogan vs Nash when the entire story was at its peak. By the time they finally did the match at Road Wild, it was too little, too late. The nWo was over, the spark and desire for the match was gone, and the match itself at the PPV was boring and slow.

● The constant flip flopping between heel/face turns were truly unnecessary and made TV convoluted. For example, Kevin Nash went from face to heel to face to heel between January and July. They also did a double turn with Hogan and Flair that made no sense. DDP turned heel, Savage turned heel, Piper turned heel, Bischoff turned face, Bret went from heel to face to heel, etc.

● Buff Bagwell was one of the company's most popular guys following his dismissal from the nWo and they did nothing to capitalize on it. There looked to be something in the works when they had him feuding with Flair & Piper over the summer that should've led to something big, but it didn't. After that, he floated in obscurity doing little to nothing of importance for the rest of the year. No reason he shouldn't have been in contention for the US or World Championship 

● I did enjoy guys like The Revolution and The Filthy Animals getting a lot of TV time in the middle and latter portions of the year. Despite their feud being confusing on who the faces and heels were, it was still good TV from an in-ring perspective 

● Bret Hart's face run was great. The work he did with guys like Benoit and Sting was top notch. I hate that WCW never seemed to value him as a face long term and was so adamant on him being a heel

● Vince Russo coming to WCW as the booker made WCW plummet even more. The moment he comes in, there's an instant lack of focus with the booking of TV. The constant weekly WWF jabs and/or references (Oklahoma & Dr Death, Montreal Screwjob references with Starrcade 1999, renaming Vincent to Shane, etc) were nauseating and there's a massive influx of random and terrible mini stories on TV (Johnny Marinara and the Italian Mob, The Maestro & Symphony, Hacksaw Jim Duggan as a janitor) that served no purpose 

● Sid Vicious' feud with Goldberg was a great first major program for him. All the car humor aside, it went over well. Turning him face in the end because they saw how loved he was, was a good decision 

● Hogan returning to the red and yellow in 1999 was so weird and bizarre and honestly outdated for its time. I think WCW themselves even realized that which is why they tried to repackage Hogan in '00 with a more raw and stripped down version of the character

● Unpopular opinion, but I hated the West Texas Rednecks vs No Limit Soldiers story. Beating the piss out of each other all summer long because one group liked country music and the other like rap is so stupid and was a terrible way to counter WWF TV. The only positive is that it gave Curt Hennig in a solid spot on TV after completely wasting him when he got kicked out of the nWo

● The constant exposure of David Flair on TV was terrible and seemed like nothing short of nepotism. Everything he did and was invovled in was not good. Add that with how bad he was in the ring, and it's a colossal failure. The nWo stuff with Torrie Wilson, trying to become a carbon copy of Ric Flair, beating a technician like Dean Malenko for the US Championship, and then the eventual psycho stalker feud with Kimberly Page. All just terrible.

● Reforming the nWo at the end of the year was unneeded and quite possible the worst version of the nWo. By this point, the nWo story was so fargone that bringing it back seemed. The talent wasn't the problem. A heel group consisting of The Outsiders, Bret Hart, Jeff Jarrett, and Scott Steiner is an A+ group of names to build a faction around. The problem lies in doing it under the nWo name that was a massive flop and poor attempt to recapture the magic of a group that made WCW great during the early years of the wars.

Just thought about this for the first time and I’m sorry if it’s pretty obvious. But isn’t it ironic that the people that came from another company pretending to invade and destroy the WCW actually ended up destroying WCW, along with another WWE transplant and original NWO member Hogan.

It’s almost like it was entirely set up by Vince as a grand plan to take out his biggest competitor. I know in reality it’s not the case and it’s just a coincidence, but still I laugh at the through these guys were playing characters telling us what their plan was, and actually fulfilled their mission.

● At Starrcade, Bret defended the WCW World Heavyweight Championship against Goldberg.

● During the match, Hart was struck with a thrust kick to the head, resulting in a severe concussion. Hart later speculated that he may have suffered up to three additional concussions within matches over the course of that day along with the days immediately following Starrcade, having been unaware of the severity of his injuries.

● As a result, Bret would only wrestle 5 more televised matches before being forced to retire in late January 2000

DDP was great as both heel and face. I especially loved his Jersey Triad: butta ban, butta bam, butta bang!

The NWO pretty much wore Black Red and White.. Syxx had some gold on his tights, Hogan had some blue Lightening, Norton and Bagwell had the Bricks on there tights. They had little accents of color But in general they wore Black Red and White.. But Hennig wore Blue, Neon Green and Orange just like he did as Mr. Perfect.. I’m only up to Halloween Havoc 1997 so maybe later others wore other colors.. Anyone think of any?

Who was in WCW Mount Rushmore?

Here is my WCW Mount Rushmore. Ric Flair, Lex Luger, Sting and Bill Goldberg.

I was a WWF kid growing up, and now that my oldest daughter is into wrestling I want to show her some of WCW's stuff.

She (like many people) really likes the matches where the crowd is super into the match - for example, she enjoyed Punk/Cena at MitB 2011, Rey Mysterio winning at Wrestlemania, Austin/Rock at WM 17, a number of Shawn/Bret matches, Mankind winning the title, etc.

I've shown here a few of the old Dusty/Ric Flair main events from Starrcade and she did enjoy those.

For WCW, I've watched some on the network myself but outside of the really big things like Hogan/Sting or Nash/Goldberg, I'm struggling more here since it wasn't part of my childhood.

So what do you all recommend? I'd prefer single matches for the attention span of an 8 year old rather than whole events but will take any suggestion offered.

I only went to two when I was 10-12, I don't think we had a big enough arena in Knoxville for Nitro or Thunder, those only happened in Nashville from memory.

The first one I remember the most, my mom's boyfriend got two tickets, we were in the third row. I remember arriving there and getting a magazine that had Vader in it and I think he was wrestling in WWE at this point. While we were watching the show, kids my age kept running up to the guard rail to see the wrestlers and high five them. The NWO came out and I went up with the other kids, I remember Hall, Nash and Giant walking by us along with other guys that I can't remember anymore and my heart beating really fast seeing the size of Giant. During the whole show there was this crazy woman that looked like she was in her mid 40s heckling wrestlers, using vulgar language next to kids, screaming homosexual slurs at the top of her lungs, I remember my mom's boyfriend looking at her like he was disgusted, she never got kicked out though. Nash got in the ring got on the mic and acted like he didn't hear anything she was screaming at them, said how great it was to be back where he played basketball and told fans they would be at the Waffle House down the street after the show which got a huge pop.

Other memory was going with my best friend and his grandparents, being in the cheap seats at the same arena and all I remember was seeing Steiner brothers wrestling a tag match.

They feel brand new, guess I never wore them just kept moving them around since the 90s.

The role of the manager is a bit of a lost art in wrestling. The best ones gave guys who struggled with promos a mouthpiece to do their taking, and helped promising mid-carders become superstars. That got me thinking that we had an excess of talent in WCW and few promising wrestler who were put with a manager to guide them out of the mid-card. So I wanted to throw something of a challenge out there: What mid-carder (or lower wrestler) would you be able to put together with a manager as a tandem that could either headline a pay per view, or win the World title? The two catches is that they had to both people have to be employed in WCW at the same time, and the manager does not have to be an official manager, but can be a Rick Rude/Curt Hennig type who you have transition into a managerial role.

For me, I thought the guy with the biggest upside whose manager held him back was Yuji Nagata. Sonny Oono was too much of a comedy manager for him. Instead, I would have given him Rick Martel as a manager. Martel really found his voice after his "Model" character in WWF. Nagata already had respectable wins against Greg Valentine, Dean Malenko, Chris Jericho, Ultimo Dragon, and Saturn. I really think having Martel as a heat magnet who is constantly trying to remind you how great Nagata is would have pushed this guy to possibly being able to headline a PPV either against some form of the NWO's upper echelon or against Goldberg in a non-squash match.

I've been binging pretty quickly (with the help of the fast forward button). I started with Scott Hall's first appearance (May 27, 2006) and have watched every Nitro and PPV (except Hog Wild, which isn't available on Peacock). I'm currently watching Starrcade 1996.

1. I've never really liked Jeff Jarrett, but I'm so confused as to how Flair personally made Jeff Jarrett his temporary successor....because he said so. McMichaels (who I hate way more than JJ) and Benoit don't like it and there's even a match and then it's not brought up again even though Flair is still doing 4 Horsemen promote with them. Jarrett obviously didn't push, but it's lazy to just pretend like it never happened. (Edit: I spoke too soon. I feel like it's been over a month since they really did anything with this, but I guess it's just slow moving, since Arn just attacked Jarrett during his match with Benoit and the commentators brought all this up.)
2. I really don't understand what's going on with Sting. I know that's the point, but knowing what does happen with Sting makes this coming out and attacking JJ and Rick Steiner and leaving the nWo (except for fake Sting) alone thing mindboggling.
3. The NWO got old. Quick. I don't care about the new additions, mostly because they all suck. I'm tired of all the run ins. I'm tired of the promos with childish laughter. It really is borderline unwatchable. It's certainly not conducive to binge watching. But I imagine the feeling was the same then, you just had to keep watching because you have to know what's going to happen next. And as soon as I think I'm actually done with this....here comes Piper. Eric Bischoff is either the smartest or luckiest motherfucker ever to have lived. As soon as I check out, he gets me back in.
4. I still can't get over how many wrestlers that I felt were plugs when I first watched (and later maybe thought were simply underutilized or not respected enough) were honestly pushed very well before the nWo and even now in the first few months of the nWo. I don't understand how in the next year, wrestlers that used to headline main events will be lucky to have matches outside of the first hour of Nitro once it becomes 3 hours.
5. I did take a detour once I saw Sabu was in some of the first Nitros. Sabu vs Disco Inferno is just hilarious to me. I'm going to have to go back and catch some more Pillman, too.

They may not have had a chant for everything but “By Golly” they sure did love to yell and throw beer at the nWo which Scott Hall thoroughly enjoyed.

The Elite 8 is set. Results from the 2 Sweeeeet 16 are as follows. Scott Norton def Norman Smiley via failed Cross Body Block by Smiley. Norman Smiley was rushed to a local ICU stay tuned for updates on his condition. Grade D+ Shane “Franchise” Douglas def Earnest “ the Cat” Miller in what many have on a short list of greatest inconsequential matches of all time via pinfall by way of 3 Bayley to Bayley suplexes. Around the midpoint of the match, it is worth noting that R truth attempted to cash in the money in the bank briefcase. Co Match of the Night. Grade B Brad Armstrong def The Wall by pinfall via ironically his infamous side Russian leg sweep. Grade C La Parka def Perry Saturn via count out. At the end of the match there was much confusion as the referee got to the count of 9 the lights went out when the lights came back up there were 2 Laparkas one in the ring and one face to face with Saturn. Laparka hit what appeared to be an RKO out of nowhere on Saturn and both were counted out. Laparka in the ring started his signature awesome dancing while the La parka on the outside pulled his mask off revealing he was actually DDP. Co Match of the Night Grade B

Prince Iaukea def Jim Duggan in a good old fashion slobber knocker via pinfall by way of a jumping ddt onto Hacksaws very own 2x4. Grade C+ Alex Wright def Roadblock via cont out after running in and out of the ring for five minutes at which point Road Block collapsed out of exhaustion and Wright celebrated by dancing with the Disco Inferno. Grade D- Match however A+ dancing so we will say C. Chris “Champagne” Kanyon def Scotty Riggs via pinfall by way of a super flatliner off the top turnbuckle. Good back and forth match. Raven sat ringside brooding obviously torn between who to pull for. Grade B- High Morris def Disco Inferno via pinfall by way of no laughing matter on the TV title which Alex Wright had handed to Disco. Here’s a link for the end of the match, crowd was electric.

https://youtu.be/edJgIf-pykw?si=vg3ok4k1i53A2ShF

To decide the greatest WCW tag team. Let me get your votes for the play in matches first. Honorable mentions go out to the Jersey triad, West Texas Rednecks, Alex Wright & Disco Inferno, Blue Bloods, Anderson & Zybisko, Benoit & Marengo, Scorpio & Bagwell, Wrath & Mortis, Poppa Pump & Buff and of course Lenny & Lodi!

Starrcade 1997 and it was every bit of disappointment as everyone said it was. I'm 40 years old and the only episodes of Raw & Nitro I missed were when the other show was in my city so I was a diehard back then. Loved WWF More so never saw WCW PPV's until the network started and really dove in this past year to watching the old ones. Here are my observations from this show:

**Why were the wrestlers ringside in attendance? Most of them looked disengaged especially Greg Valentine lol. Couldve sold those seats to fans as it was sold out and a huge show. Bischoff seemed lucky to make money rather than actively trying to

**Malenko and Guerrero was carried by Eddie. I read today that Dean wanted the show off because his wife was due around this time. She had the baby 3 days prior so they flew him in, he seemed pissed

**A lot of matches didn't go as planned especially Giant vs. Nash due to whatever was going on with Nash. Instead they had Giant embarrass #1 contender Scott Hall... Macho Man fills in during 6 man tag and you tell he's pulled rank ahead of this thing No idea why Raven vs. Benoit was booked with Raven having a lingering illness..

**Goldberg is greener than goose shit and should've not been in the ring with a guy like Mongo who was C- at best. You can see why they gave him a chance though because Goldberg's presence is off the charts.

**Dusty Rhodes was absolutely terrible on commentary. Bobby Hennan is sorely missed here.

**This is WCW's biggest pay per view and you can't tell. They talk about Sting vs. Hogan but where WCW lacked was the pagentry and glitz that WrestleMania had. The semi main was freaking Eric Bischoff vs. Larry Zbyszko, give me a break! and Bret made #1 contender Scott Hall look bad here (notice the trend?)

**DDP over Henning for the US title was a big win and should've been celebrated longer. This was really the only thing on the show that didn't seem off and went off probably how they envisioned

**Main Event Time: Hogan's entrance was goated especially because Buffer seemed on his A game for this match. He's very bit of what you got for him for the big boxing matches with a extra special touch. Sting does look off coming to the ring. Was it because of the finish? Was it other influences? Personal maybe? Idk but you can tell he's not into this for whatever reason.

The match was a standard Hogan match and then Nick Patrick happened, however the thing I dislike about this was Bret was already in position for the timekeeper which made it look super contrived and everyone in the crowd is confused. Would've made more sense if he stormed out and complained of the fast count or IF IT NEVER HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! This shouldve been a 12 minute semi competitive in the beginning, dominant in the end performance by Sting but we all know what happened.

**I would've booked Bret in a match instead and gave him a great debut spot. Maybe over Macho Man and have Hall do the Six Man instead and get the W.

**People love to mentioned The Time Warner merger but this show showed me that no matter what WCW with the talent they had in that locker room would not have survived unless Vince literally bought it out before it went down so badly or if they got rid of some of the toxic locker room guys

I thought it would be a cool idea if we had a ‘WCW match of the week’ where people could request/vote on a match to watch and then we could all talk about it. Maybe Monday nights we pick one match to watch and talk about, anyone up for it?

So I’m looking for just a vote for the fatal four way play in and who you got between the winner and the wrestler formerly known as Prince Iaukea.

This was during the sting vs nwo rivalry if it helps. I think it’s just such a funny moment

Been watching every Raw episode since 1993, plus every Nitro and Thunder episode (plus all ppvs) for the last couple of years. I've just got to June 1998 but I'm aware that many of those episodes and ppvs won't be available once WWE moves over to Netflix in January.

Any ideas for how I can keep watching? I'm in the UK.

Double A is one of my Favorites as an Adult. He embodies Role of the Enforcer. Flair could run his mouth because Arn Anderson was was right there with him. The man’s Spinebuster is I’m my opinion one of if not the best of all times.. Watching his retirement promo and seeing Flairs Eyes well up and lip quivering made it feel so real.

Was wondering about this, it must've been pretty wild seeing this all go down. I'm not even sure who I would've expected. Maybe Brian Pillman? If I try to ignore the outcome, it almost sounds like Hall is referring to the Giant. People were losing their shit when Kevin Nash showed up.

Who did you think were the two other NWO members?