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Is the West going to collapse due to low fertility and materialism?.
It seems to me that all the immigration that’s happening is a natural outworking of people in the US and Western Europe failing to pro-create. If capitalism relies on perpetual economic growth how is this possible with a declining population?. The lefts solution would be to abandon capitalism and the rights solution is go back to family values. Both are correct but neither will compromise to encompass both, so is the west doomed?.
Immigration is becoming an ever more bipartisan topic after it being relatively acceptable to politicians and the general public during the 80-late 00s. It seems like the wing is blowing where both sides, the centre left and centre right, are reaching a consensus that immigration needs to be curtailed. This seems clear to me after Starmer’s recent speech on immigration.
One thing I’ve noticed when discussing the topic of immigration is even those who aren’t really fully for it will claim it needs to come down but then they posit “who will run our basic services that no one born in Britain wants to do like X?”. Replace X with anything that comes to your mind at the point of this conversation such as:
My retort to this has always been, well, highly educated people from abroad with work experience in highly specialised fields struggle to find companies to sponsor them, so I am sure it’s nigh on impossible to get a work visa to come to the UK to drive taxis. To me it’s always felt like a convenient excuse the far right have used when discussing immigration “Dey Gonna Take Our Jobs”.
But then my own experience when using many of the aforementioned services is actually, they are mostly worked by immigrants.
I just want to start a discussion on this and find out more but my questions around this are:
How comes it is extremely difficult to get a work visa while being educated and having work experience in specialised fields but you do see a lot of people from abroad doing jobs which are relatively unskilled such as taxi drivers and takeout workers? Is it actually true that a lot of visas are given for low level work?
From the recent statistics that came out about immigration in the last year, only a small % of those coming to the UK came on work visas. The vast majority were dependents, family members and students. Why are these counted as part of the immigration statistics as in theory they should be here short term and will leave the country?
Do we, as a country, actually depend on people from abroad for unskilled labour such as taxi drivers and takeout workers? What would be the effect if, theoretically, we made it impossible for anyone from abroad to come to the UK to do these jobs? I am only asking because one of the main arguments given for immigration is the economic argument. But are such low level jobs such a key pillar to our economy that we need to bring in close to a million people every year to work these jobs? Does it make up for all the other negatives associated with immigration such as compression of wages at the lower level and less housing availability?
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Read the news that during 2023 a record number of 900,000 people moved into the UK. The numbers for 2024 were lower but still in the 750k range annually.
I am genuinely wondering what makes people move in and decide to live in the UK. The housing situation is in bad shape, from my experience the renting market in London is going nuts, where I’ve seen people ask for 1400 pounds per month for a room. The job market is extremely competitive, making it extremely hard to get any job, let alone getting a job sponsored by a company. NHS barely copes with a number of growing patients. Cost of living is skyrocketing while salaries remain stagnant for the most part.
I know nothing really about Louise Haigh, good or bad, but I am finding it hard to believe that someone would not know whether they (a) carry their work phone in their handbag, or (b) keep it in a drawer at home. If her habit was to keep it in a drawer when not at work, then why would she think that it was stolen from her handbag when she was mugged?
Maybe I am being unfair due to not knowing all the details -- Can someone provide some context that makes her claim more believable?