/r/TeachersInTransition
r/Teachers sister-sub for discussing resignations and career transitions.
This is a sister-subreddit of r/Teachers. All rules in r/teachers apply here, with the exception of 2.4, which prohibits dedicated posts to resignation announcements and out-of-field career transitions.
/r/TeachersInTransition
I am pretty offended by my district. I am currently in my 12th year and I teach special ed. Last year I had a baby during the summer. I did not get maternity leave due to this. I chose to take my 12 weeks instead of their designated 6. I was planning on using my saved up sick days (24 of them) to compensate me while I was out. Right before the school year started, the business manager told me I can’t use my sick days and just did a salary deduction of charging me for 45 days gone out of my “salaried contract of 185”. This ended up being 14,000 out of my salary I was not expecting. It made me mad as I had 24 days that could have balanced that out that they didn’t allow me to use. Now, fast forward to yesterday. I have jumped through hoops to use “grant money” to fund a program we have already had in place for probably close to two decades for tutoring. I always clock in at 3:15 for this and start with the kids right after school. The business office has now said I can’t clock in until 3:50 due to this being during my contract hours (the time has always been 3:15 that I can begin). So essentially taking away half my paycheck as I do it for an hour and now they are eliminating a 1/2 hour of pay. I am annoyed because: At our high school if you work during your “prep period” you earn an extra 7,000 per year. Yet this doesn’t count as me working during my after school prep period. I am one of few sped employees who has not had the district pay for any of my education to become a teacher (due to teacher shortages and lack of sped teachers). I feel like they are taking care of new hires to try to get teachers, but not taking care of the ones they have.
There are a lot more injustices that I didn’t care to bore you with, but I can go into more detail as needed.
Am I wrong for knowing my worth and feeling like I may get out of this teaching world due to lack of compensation for my loyalty?
I stupidly went back into teaching after a 5 year hiatus (of being very ill and having a baby). Before pandemic I taught kinder/second for 7 years. I didn't like the workload and pressure, but eventually kind of hit a "I can't care anymore or I'll die" vibe.
I was stunned when I got hired for 4th in a good district (same I taught in before), not a good school but money is better than I've ever made. I've downsized and am on a tighter budget in an expensive area, and also have complicated home life. This job has sucked the very lifeforce out of me, and that's after surviving 5 surgeries, a brain lesion, a pulmonary embolism, a post-appendectomy abscess infection, anaphylactic shock, spinal cord compression resulting in myeloma and progressive paralysis (luckily caught and fixed with discectomy), bilateral arm and hand nerve entrapment surgeries, two psychological breakdowns...
I now have nightly (and daily) panic attacks and dread, cannot eat or sleep and am having intrusive thoughts about how to escape what has become a waking nightmare. I take several clonopin just to get through the day, then spend an hour cleaning the room and contacting the same parents day in day out while my kindergarten child falls watched an ipad then falls asleep on the long commute home. She has had health issues from stress and anxiety and while she likes the school, seeing me in this state is not healthy.
I thought I could tough it out, at least until break. But my relationships and any social life or self-care has suffered greatly. If it was the workload alone I could maybe manage, but the 7 hours of essentially being a referee and constant reminders of how I've failed, the being under the microscope of an admin that criticizes without suggestions and pushes toxic positivity yet gives only negative feedback, the incredibly unrealistic expectations setting us up for failure (2 out of 3 goals are growth over 130% when the average was 40%), the loss of ability to see doctors or keep up with health because of schedule etc. it has all pushed me over. My health issues are returning, including painful nerve and spine issues previously resolved with spinal surgery, insomnia, migraine, seizure-like symptoms, chronic pain...
Anyway, I have a few issues I'm hoping someone may be able to give advice on. I have short-term disability I purchased before I started (it's outsourced). I don't qualify for FMLA. I can take 12 weeks unpaid leave and retain my benefits I believe. I have health issues and need insurance. I recently saw my psychiatrist and she will sign off on my need to take leave. My questions are:
***Factors in the time crunch of all this is:
Long rant but TL;DR: I'm losing it. Walls are closing in, the break feels imminent. This principal will walk in at any moment, glare at me in the hallway, tear me down, question my pedagogy and knowledge, pile on responsibilities and make me feel like more of a failure than I already do. I have few options and need to take action for the above reasons. I almost broke into tears today because I do love some of my students and there are these occasional glimmers, but it's not worth my health or life. My daughter is at the school and I suppose she'd stay until break, when I want to move her to our neighborhood school, which is much better and IB, but my husband isn't necessarily on board as it is a lot of change for her.
to all the paras in here, how did you break the news to your classroom staff that you are leaving? some background, i just started in september and have grown close to the staff in my classroom. the reason why i am leaving is because of all the behaviors that goes on in my class and fearing for my safety every single day i come into work. i am putting myself first for the sake of my mental and physical wellbeing and choosing to leave this profession. i’m not sure how to break the news to my staff without having them feel disappointed in me leaving (and i also feel guilty leaving in the middle of the school year + leaving them with these students with high rates of behaviors with one less staff member). any advice would be appreciated 🥹
Sorry if this sounds crazy… But I know LinkedIn is a really popular networking and job seeking platform. Has anyone actually ever gotten a job from using it?
I did make a connection with an HR recruiter at one of the community colleges I was looking into and she recommended a job to me. I didn’t get it though… But I’m talking about all of the job posting notifications that I get emails about daily. All of these remote positions or Ed tech positions that are hiring through LinkedIn that seems nationwide kinda—- has anybody ever actually applied and gotten hired from any of those jobs through LinkedIn?
I am traveling with my husband who is a travel nurse. While we travel, I am subbing at different schools when he works...
Today I subbed at a school with 5 different AP's. They also had too many subs, so they asked me to help in the office with 1 of the AP's. As I talked with the AP, he told me that he worked in hospital admin before becoming AP. He had NO experience in education. No degree in education, but somehow still became AP. He was talking with another AP, who announced she just got accepted to her master's program. Come to find out she has a bachelor's degree in math. No education in elementary education either.
Is it me, or is this messed up?? Why are schools being run by admin with no educational experience or background?? (Forgive the sarcasm....and they wonder why teachers are leaving in droves...)
Job 1: A fed gov job in DC (area where I live) that starts in January. I’ll start off on an interim security clearance. Pay is $68,000 and will be up to $100k in two years. Then will be around 112k a year after that.
The position doesn’t have to do with education and I’ll start off in a one-year probationary training program.
A friend of a friend told me about this job when I told her I was unsuccessful at finding work.
I have a new life here. I have a boyfriend who has stopped am traveling as much because of how much I felt disconnected when he left. I have a nice apartment here that I pay $2000 in rent on per month. I have friends now. Everything.
Job 2: An educational consultant job that will pay $760 per day. I will have to move back to my home state. I did the math and would be able to save more than $50K by the time the contract ends (that’s the amount I would have left over AFTER I set aside some for taxes).
BUT I would have to move back to my home state (small small town Deep South) where everyone knows everyone. I would have to travel to different schools across the northern part of the state.
Id be able to stop living paycheck to paycheck and have a new financial start. My boyfriend feels I should take this job but it’s not just about money. Going back home makes me feel so bad. I was bullied so bad and there’s so much small town drama and so many family members of mine that I’d rather not see.
My plan was to take the consulting job until the government job starts but after doing the numbers, Im rethinking this. Idk. Im so grateful for both opportunities but i don’t know whats the best one long term.
You might recall my "It finally happened. I am going to prison" post a little while back. Today I officially received the offer letter. Start date is Nov. 15, which is also the facility's annual Thanksgiving banquet day. What better way to start than with FOOD!
Will post a follow-up and take questions after I have been there about a month or so.
Those still searching for a way out: stand strong and don't let anybody bring you down.
Anyone here have also absolutely no other career to fall back on that they may have been doing before teaching ?
I quit my teaching job a year ago. Still looking for work. Not a single interview either too.
I think we social studies teachers , especially the ones coming purely from a history major background, have it the absolute worse out of any other teacher
Hey everyone, sorry if this post is long and rambling. I’ve got a lot to vent.
This is my second year teaching, and everyone said it would be much better. It’s not. It’s a whole hell of a lot worse. I’m on a provisional license at a small rural school in Virginia, teaching science. Last year I had small classes and upperclassmen, and was already on the fence. This year they’ve moved me to freshman classes with 25+ students in each block. And I just can’t do it. Every part of this job is draining my very soul. The grading, the admin, the constant meetings, all of it. The worst part is classroom management. I know I can’t expect 9th graders to know how to act but wow they are awful. I am not built to deal with 25 students all screaming at me at once. I don’t know how some of you veterans do it, so much respect for you all. Today I realized some students stole fossils from me that have a ton of sentimental value to me. I’m just done. I’m not eating right, I’m not sleeping, I can’t focus on my hobbies. Im incredibly stressed and anxious everyday. I’m actually starting therapy in two weeks (mostly for this job).
Anyway, I want to quit. I don’t even know if I can make it to the second semester. I just have no idea how to go about it. My contract says that if a two weeks notice isn’t accepted by the board and I break the contract anyway then they can pursue remedies prescribed by the board of education. Very vague, but I’m assuming that means they could take my license away, or sue. Well, I don’t have a license and I’m not planning on teaching ever again so I assume that is fine. Could they really sue, does that typically happen? Any advice you all have would be much appreciated!
Hey teacher friends!
I get so sad seeing posts about what's happening to us. It looks like our options are to quit what we spent so long preparing for (and many of us love), or to martyr ourselves to some romantic notion of nobility (cringe).
Is there anything else we can do?
Preface: I’m 25 and fresh out of college in my 1st year of teaching. I am licensed in Middle Level Education- Math and Science (4-9 grades)
I’m dealing with extreme guilt, anxiety, stress, and depression. I am in my first year teaching and it has been a struggle bus. I’ll be honest, it’s probably mostly my own mind telling me I’m not good enough or cut out for this. But this job is way more taxing than I anticipated. When I interview and got hired this year they did not disclose to me that I would be teaching two separate subjects. I interviewed for a high school position that I am not licensed for (because I’m licensed 4-9 grade). They gave me 4 science subjects to choose from and I took anatomy and physiology. After I was board approved, they gave me my resources and I got entire 8th grade science curriculum and one single college A&P textbook. Ever since I received those items in late July, I have been insanely stressed. I got on bupropion and Xanax 1 month into teaching. I am at an extremely rural and small school. I am the only AP and 8th grade science teacher in the school. I have a total of 80 students between the two subjects, which isn’t that much. My principal is new and just as stressed as I am so she hasn’t been hounding me in my first year which is nice but also makes me feel left out in the water alone. All the other teachers have been extremely supportive to me. The kids are SOOO lazy. They give me absolutely no effort. I have to force them to even open up their Chromebook’s to answer a one question bell ringer everyday that ends up taking 15 minutes when it should’ve taken only 5. The constant attitude and apathy is demoralizing. Why should I try so hard if I am receiving NO effort. I pride myself in my work ethic. I typically do not have to stay later after my contract hours because I am very prepared. Although it has been difficult trying to learn two contents, I am great at preparing and planning which is basically what college taught you to do. But the students are crushing this dream. They blatantly tell me they’re not listening to me. And as soon as I am done with a lesson or activity, they act like we’re best friends which makes me feel so guilty for getting incredibly frustrated at them during my lessons. I love these kiddos as people but as students, they make this job miserable. My husband says I can’t quit. That I put so much time and money into my education that I can’t just give up on it now. People keep telling me that it’ll get easier with time and years of experience. I love that I get summers off and I want to love this job but honestly, a simple 9-5 medical office job is sounding more like a dream that this job where I am CONSTANTLY working because my mind is always thinking about the next day, unit, what activities I can do. I am exhausted all the time. I would love a job where I don’t have to take work home, especially mentally. But like I said, maybe it’s my own mind I need to work on. I don’t know. Just looking for some advice.
I wish I could leave already but I'm stuck taking a master's in literacy for another year and it requires a year of teaching while taking the final course. I really thought this is what I wanted to do (being a reading specialist) but my passion has been crushed, which is demoralizing in and of itself. I'm tired of being disrespected daily by kids despite trying so hard to build relationships and routines and structures. I teach middle school and these kids literally struggle with the most basic tasks and directions it's disheartening especially because so many of them have such poor reading skills. I get anxious thinking about going to school. I sleep poorly most nights because I toss and turn stressing about going to work. This is just not sustainable for me in the long term and I honestly don't know how I'm going to make it till June. I'm starting to look into potential jobs and redoing my resume just so I have something to look forward to. I think working at the local community college in admissions or another office type role would be amazing. Any advice appreciated.
I absolutely loved teaching, I felt like I was a natural at it, but something has changed. I loved my school and saw myself retiring from there. My school underwent a major shift in admin last year and I gave them grace as they went through growing pains. Now though, I feel like the writing is on the wall.
I no longer feel supported. A single student made a complaint against me and another teacher that they were being treated unfairly in an extracurricular activity we coach, because they didn’t get a leadership position they wanted, which both my principal and we had documented evidence disproving that. This student and their parent sent out a rallying cry to the community when my principal didn’t cave and now we’ve been bombarded. Students who don’t know anything about the situation have read the emails the student sent to us, and now we’ve been on the receiving end of threatening emails from parents. My principal is now waffling on support, telling me that it is easier to just cave to the community pressure and go back on his choice to remove the student from the activity.
When I told him I was having a really hard time with the constant barrage and was taking a day to get away from it, he didn’t even have a response. I’m a parent of two and I absolutely mean no disrespect to parents, but I can’t do my job if there as a community uprising every time a student doesn’t get what they want. I know kids are kids and if one of my kids was hurting I would be angry too, but I’m most concerned by the lack of admin support. Our admin hardly ever leaves their offices and are generally inaccessible. All I want right now is to feel supported and know that someone is working to shut this down, but it’s clear that isn’t happening.
Parents and students have now been emboldened to treat teachers in our building like utter garbage and I have been sick and crying over all of this for days. I need to stick out the year—I live in a state that yanks your license if you leave mid year—but I don’t know where to go next. I know that I can’t continue to feel like this and be a good parent to my own kids and as much as I love my students, my babies have to come first.
I'm in my 6th year of teaching self contained SPED (3rd in my current position). The past 2 years have been so crazy with behaviors that I really have not been teaching... I went into the year not really having it/finding any happiness and thought I could tough it out and make it through..but every time a Consulting Teacher comes in, they make me feel like I'm horrible at my job (I'm not the best but I love my students).. They tell me all the things to make/do but I have zero time in contract hours to do it- I get no lunch or prep (which i know is common) and once students leave I've got zero energy to get things made- which makes me feel worse. I feel like expectations for teachers ridiculous and I've decide not to go back next year but it's been a rough year already and I don't know if I can go back after Christmas break..FMLA is a choice but I could always quit too... I don't know what to do... any advice?
I teach a really niche subject in a very cool secondary career development program. It's been a little over a year, and I really feel like I've done the program a lot of good. I love it, and I also know that I cannot/will not do this for the remainder of my career. Love the kids, love the district, am a huge fan of the mission. But...
I have 20 years left to work. To stay in this role, I need to get a teaching license ( not just a provisional one) as well as maintain the licensure of my primary career. I also teach the same (100 minute) class three times a day everyday. I cannot sustain that for the next 20 years. It's been super fun, but It's time for me to get back to my primary career.
Pros: kids are awesome, so much fun. Mission of the program is really cool.
Cons: very little support from administration; locking myself into teaching rather than developing my primary career; paying/doing the education to maintain two licenses; The longer I spend away from my primary role, the less likely I am to find jobs in the future.. I do fine without the support, but it would be super nice if I had it.
I really want this program to continue to be successful. I would love to set up a scenario where I can help a new hire get acclimated and have the support that I didn't have when I started.
My question is: when do I put in my notice? I fully intend to finish out the school year, but that's it. Am very willing to spend (paid) time setting up a guide for a new, inexperienced teacher. By nature of the job, we are not trained teachers. It would be great if a new hire didn't have to struggle as much as I did when I started.
Thoughts? Anyone been here before? And if your answer is "give them 2 weeks, you don't owe them anything" because you hate your life right now (which I totally get and don't judge) please hold your tongue. I truly like and respect my students and co-workers. Just trying to do the right thing
Teaching is a goddamn nightmare.
I am burnt the fuck out. I tried to quit at the end of last year, but they begged me to stay and promised it would be better - they even added my accommodations (I’m autistic) to my file, so surely they’ll change! I now see how naive I was.
Currently writing this on the back of two 12 hour days, and no, I’m not counting at-home prep. We had an open house on Tuesday, and then an extra long faculty meeting today just to talk about “identity” and “plasticity.” In a room full of dead-eyed, weeping teachers, who’ve all described themselves as being on the brink, they really thought this was the move. We even got our mandatory Saturday work day announced today! And that’s on top of not having Indigenous Peoples Day off, all-day conferences last Friday, a PD day located 1.5 hours from the school, and multi-day overnight camping trips.
For $58k, this shit ain’t worth it.
I LOVE my kids to death; they are truly a class of angels, but the admin in this building are so toxic that I can’t take it. I had to set up for an open house last night and my admin micromanaged me for how I placed the desks in my own room - down to the fucking inch - for 25 minutes (I am not exaggerating). The desks all had to be perfectly flush, you see, even though they are all junked up from daily use by the kids.
I know I’m a good teacher; my class is the favorite of so many kids, and they tell me CONSTANTLY how much they love me. I’ve had the dream moment of a kid expressing gratitude for how I’ve changed his life and “brought him out of a really dark place” he’d been for 4 years. I’ve helped so many of these kids like school again.
But my admin are so focused on advertising (private school) that they don’t give a shit what they do to their teachers, as though we aren’t the reason any kid would want to come here anyway. They closed and combined so many positions last year that the admin teach, and the kids overwhelmingly hate their classes. They’re not subtle about it. My kids call my direct supervisor “scary lady,” and they barely interact with her.
Scary Lady is indeed scary, and the whole thing just makes me want to die. I HAVE to leave. Today really solidified that. No accommodations met on the back of the horrific open house day yesterday (which they didn’t prepare anyone for), and then my admin no-show a meeting with me to talk about that exact thing to attend a team meeting they were not invited to and unwanted at (coworkers told me). Didn’t get any kind of apology until I broke down crying an hour in to the faculty meeting today.
So I know they’re going to beg me to stay, but they’ve done nothing but treat me like a stupid, expendable, disorderly child.
Sorry for the vent. I’m just so anxious and grief-stricken. I love these kids dearly, and while I know they’ll be okay without me, it truly tears me apart knowing that teaching is so broken that I can’t continue to work with and help them.
I had such a great interview today. I really loved the vibe of the leadership! The interview went so well and I am so excited for the possibility of a shift. Driving there, I was feeling super nervous and I was really doubting how I’d be able to have the conversation with my district without feeling super guilty. I left the interview knowing that it would be worth it for a job like that. The guilt would subside in days and I’d be HAPPY. I’m hoping to hear back for good news!
Hey, all.
I'm a teacher and have taught overseas for a good many years. I'm interested in transitioning to a remote job of some sort as a contractor. I've been looking for 1099 jobs or something of that sort as a contractor but I've not had any success with any companies from back home.
Any advice on which jobs I could possibly do? Thanks.
I need interview advice. I’m interviewing for a college admissions counselor position. It’s not a very big college. I’ve researched their programs and organizations they offer as well as scholarships and funding for incoming freshman. Any advice on what they might ask? I want to be as prepared as possible.
I’ll be out thanksgiving to January recovering from surgery.
What if I just…didn’t return?
Cited complications with recovery? Can I get this excused and keep my license? Or maybe just take a little longer off, leaving me more time to reflect and come up with a plan?
Thoughts?
I don’t need anything fancy or high paying just equitable to my teacher salary with health insurance Ideas?
Has anybody had experience transitioning from public to private schools? I am currently having my certificate investigated for an ethics violation (Job abandonment due to resignation) and was curious if the private school experience is any better or worse? I know some private schools do not require certification in lieu of experience (I have 13 years as an AP Social Studies Teacher). I am not enthralled about going back into education, just wanted to have a back up in case.
I posted a bit ago about being a new teacher and hating it. I still hate it. Even after setting boundaries and trying my best to find the joys, I still do not like this at all. I’m currently bed ridden with the flu, stressing tf out trying to write sub plans when I’m only ever a day ahead of the kids.
At this point, I’m at the bottom of the pay grid, and I work overtime for free. What’s the point anymore? I could work at Walmart or the pet store and be stress free and make only slightly less.
I’ve been searching for government jobs or anything that I could do using my degrees. I can’t find anything out there.
Sorry, I just need to vent. This week has been extremely tough.
Hey fam. I am happy to say today has been a huge day for me, I landed the graphic design job I've been dreaming of for a year! Now that the reality is hitting me, I feel extremely guilty leaving. I have some mental health conditions including OCD, so I keep ruminating on the guilt. What will the parents think, what will the children think, what will my boss think, etc etc etc. Have any of you dealt with this before, and is there any advice you might have for stopping that mental cycle?
Thank you, and I wish you all the best, truly ❤️
I just applied to 3 administrative jobs at 3 universities (including one community college) as well as an administrative job with the government of the city that I live in.
After doing some research I learned that it’s not wise to apply to multiple jobs at the same employer so that is why I only applied to 4 jobs yesterday despite there being more jobs available at those employers. I also applied to the most recent job postings as I heard if you are in the first group of people that applies then your chances of getting noticed by HR are greater.
Anyways I have no idea where else to apply to. It’s not like there’s hundreds of university campuses all over the city that I live in. One will quickly run out of stuff.
For context I was a History major in college and I used to be a High School Social Studies teacher. I don’t have any other job experience aside from some retail and warehouse despite being 35 years old. I also have no interest in studying anything else because I don’t have the money for it nor the time and energy, especially since I have trouble understanding and comprehending so much stuff as evidenced from my past failures to grasp law (paralegal cert program), accounting and any tech stuff.
I’m retiring in May. For those of you who’ve transitioned, how long did it take you to get an interview?
A few weeks? A few months?
I’ve heard hiring at the college level is slow (I want to do advising/admissions/guidance) but I don’t want to throw out my apps in December and say at my interview- sorry I gotta wait till May!
Wondering what your timelines were for your hear back from employers.
I’m six years into teaching high school and I’m getting frustrated with the students mostly. I try to teach engaging and creative lessons but am met with indifference and comments like “ugh can’t we just sit on our phones.” It gets to me and makes me feel like I’m putting in all of this work for nothing.
Anyway, I do have great relationships with students overall (which is why they complain so loudly to me I think) and I think being a school counselor might be more up my alley. Calmer conditions, school setting, one on one help, still making great relationships with kids.
Anyone take this path and could give me advice? It looks like I would have to do 30 credits and an internship and I just don’t know if that’s feasible.
Hi I’m new to this sub so sorry if this isn’t the place to ask. I’ve been a history teacher for four years now and I’m coming to the realization this job just isn’t for me. I’m trying to get out but I feel like there’s nothing else I can do with my degree. I have my bachelors in history, and an unfinished masters in history education. I see people suggest things like to go to law school, but going back to school just isn’t a plausible option for me. I’m just desperate to figure out any options I have to move to a different career field as quickly as possible.
I’m done at the end of the year. I have 30 some sick days. I should use them right. Also can I get in trouble for using my sick days like they need a note or something. I have that covered as I went to my therapist Monday. What would you do. I haven’t told a soul at the school that I’m leaving at the end of the year. Any other tips for survival until May? Thanks
I have worked in Education for about 8 years now. I have taught and now am more in a service role (I work with alumni who graduated HS and are in college). I am torn on what to do next. I have been applying to roles else where with zero luck (I have both my BSW and MSW but not licensed). Ideally I would love to be in a more creative field but don't have any experience. I have tried going into EdTech as many of us with zero leads. It's sad applying to jobs and never hearing back. I decided to finish out the rest of the school year and apply into Higher Ed (although I've heard the same about our local college/doesn't pay well). Just looking for some ideas on what others are applying into?