...but is it possible we get a season two under a different name? The Acolyte makes way for...the Apprentice. Even with the bad reviews for S1, it was still a good story, and there are a TON of loose ends. It would make sense from a lore standpoint, as Osha will no longer be an acolyte, and will begin training as Qimir's apprentice. I just can't imagine them introducing Plagueis and then immediately scrapping the show, not to mention all of the fan love for Qimir.

As I work my way through the Darth Plagueis novelization, I find myself hoping that the powers that be at Disney have the foresight to create a series based on this novel. I think it would work well as a short form, animated series. Maybe 8 to 10 episodes, but I’m certain it would have pretty fantastic viewership.

I read light of the jedi and am currently reading the coming storm. where the "big bads" of the series the Nihil, have theses secret paths through hyperspace.

so, I'm wondering are theses the same as the ones talked about in TWC.

As the world braces for the choices ahead this November, we find ourselves at a turning point. This election could be one of the most consequential in our lifetime. The choices we make now will shape the future for generations to come.

From the start, Star Wars has made a political statement—about standing up to tyranny and refusing to let fear or division win. George Lucas crafted the story, in part, to remind us that democracy is fragile but worth fighting for, and when good people stay silent, darkness rises. That’s why the Spec moderation team feels it’s important to take a stand: in a world as divided as ours, your vote is one of the strongest tools you have to fight for justice, equality, and hope.

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In the Galaxy Far, Far Away, the fall of the Republic didn’t happen overnight. Corruption, lies, and fear gave rise to the Empire. The people’s voices weren’t heard because they didn’t stand up when it mattered. That’s a lesson for all of us—when we don’t engage, when we don’t vote, we allow the wrong people to take control.

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Of course Rebuild the Galaxy was a fun, non-canon special not meant to be taken seriously or thought about too hard. Just for fun, though, what would the backstory of the rebuilt world be, based on what we know about the canon timeline?

Is Jedi Vader's backstory similar to canon, since RtG Luke and Leia don't know he is their father. Was Palpatine redeemed or always good? What galactic politics lead to Darth Dev's Empire with Ackbar clone troopers?

Darth Jar Jar seemed like an enforcer for Dev, not his superior, but he also said he was always the phantom menace. Is he downplaying his power and role in creating RtG's Empire?

Why did Han and Leia appear to be younger versions of themselves when Luke and Lando were older?

I don't really have any solid ideas here. This is just a fun discussion more than anything I think was actually considered by the writers.

I’ve always wanted to see Mara Jade brought into Star Wars canon, and I think the upcoming Heir to the Empire movie by Dave Filoni could be the perfect opportunity. It would be amazing to explore her character in this new timeline. One way to explain her absence from the sequel trilogy could be through a tragic event—what if she was accidentally killed by a young Ben Solo during a mission? This would not only add depth to Luke’s grief but could also give more context to his internal struggle and eventual decision to turn on Kylo in The Last Jedi. What do you all think?

My theory is from what I read on Star Wars wikia is that vernestra never wanted to be a Jedi master and just be a wayseeker.

Vernstara was still grieving of the starlight beacon. She was on the the plan ibbe for grieving and healing

The council may have ordered her to come back before she was ready and she unwillingly was assigned qimir as an apprentice.

She may had become frustrated with few pupil who kept being tempted by the dark side and whipped him. She thought he was dead and maybe she told the council he was dead and tried to attack her

With him being alive she may want to apologize or finish him since he could expose her.

When there is a voice calling to someone from the shadows, there is a good guess in Star Wars.

“I have been every voice, you have ever heard, inside your head.”

I see Baylan Skoll as a precursor to Kylo Ren in the same way that Count Dooku was a precursor to Darth Vader. I see Baylan Skoll going on Kylo Ren’s scrapped Episode IX Mortis journey with the same voice in Kylo Ren’s head in the final version of Episode IX-Dave has already drawn a bunch from both the finished and unfinished versions of Episode IX in Season 1. Yes, I think that rather than Abeloth which is a very cool theory, it is Palpatine that is guiding Baylan to Mortis through Peridea. Palpatine is still the overarching villian during this time and is pulling all the strings to continue to fulfill the Sith Grand Plan. It would make sense since Ahsoka is continuing the Rebels storyline that Palpatine will soon return as the main antagonist in the story. I suspect that Palpatine is attempting to use Baylan to gain access to Mortis to become immortal and have power over all time and space. This would be a continuation to the Rebels storyline where Palpatine was trying to gain access to the World Between Worlds. I also suspect that Palpatine is the power greater than that of the Great Mothers that they fear. I suspect that the Great Mothers are in league with Palpatine as part of their historic alliance with the Sith-the old alliance that Dooku mentioned in the Clone Wars. They serve Thrawn because they serve Palpatine which I think will lead to them betraying Thrawn as a part of Snoke’s coup for the full Hamlet effect. Perhaps, Sabine’s lack of conviction in Palpatine being dead is foreshadowing of Palpatine appearing in the series. Perhaps you’re wondering how Palpatine being in this series works with the Sequel characters being entirely unaware of his resurrection until his broadcast? Well I think any characters that encounter him will either die or remain on Peridea until after The Rise of Skywalker. Much like in the Prequels, Palpatine will be active behind the scenes, but all of his activity will be kept secret from the main Galaxy until he reveals himself again in The Rise of Skywalker.

In the trailer it is shown that Jude Laws character is a force user which leads to the kids to exclaim that he is a Jedi. In a recent interview Jude Law describes his character as contradictory and uncertain if he can be trusted. Also (this is speculation on my part) after rewatching the trailer I noticed something interesting about this shot Jude Law. Half of his face is exposed to light and the other half is dark covered by shadow. This combined with the language in the interview leads me to this theory. Jude Laws character is a former Jedi but he also hiding a very dark secret. After Order 66 he fell to the dark side and became an inquisitor. He probably all sorts of horrible things in service to the empire and after the empire fell and the republic and Jedi rises again he’s probably feeling extremely conflicted by his actions. He stumbles upon the kids by pure chance and decides to help him probably out of self serving reasons at first. This shot I mentioned could be foreshadowing and symbolizing his internal struggle with the dark side and the horrible things he’s done and the light side and his past with the order. As the show progresses and he goes on adventures with kids he undergoes a sort of redemption arc and they help him beat the dark side become the Jedi he once was

In Legends, Plagueis was presumably a teen by this time, but hey, it's Canon and not Legends, so they can do what they want with the character. Now, with that said, how old do you think Plagueis is in the new canon by the time of the Acolyte?

He looks pretty withered and old, but we also have to remember that dark side corruption can really mess you up, so he might not be THAT old. However, to become a withered old and creepy looking darksider, you have to have spent years very powerful and immersed in the dark side. For Plagueis's case, from what we have seen, he must have spent a lot of time in the dark side for years, so if I have to speculate, Plagueis is at the youngest, in his early to mid forties or something close to that.

Another interesting thing I have been wondering is when did Sidious kill Plagueis in canon? I know there is no information as of now but if you had to guess/speculate, when do you think Plagueis died? It is implied in some source books and even some in-universe semi-storybooks that Plagueis was killed by Sidious some time before Maul was taken by Sidious.

TLDR; How old do you think Plagueis is by the time of the Acolyte and when do you think he got killed by his apprentice, Sidious?

The new comic series “STAR WARS: BATTLE OF JAKKU — INSURGENCY RISING!” is set to feature Luke vs a new Inquisitor.

Recently, variant covers for the follow up series “STAR WARS: BATTLE OF JAKKU — REPUBLIC UNDER SIEGE!” shows a cover of Luke fighting what appears to be an inquisitor woman with ginger hair.

Could this be Mara Jade? I would imagine they would have caution in otherwise adding a new ginger female character in a post ROTJ Luke story.

Thoughts?

With the Grysk almost being Thrawn's whole motivation in the current canon, and Thrawn now being set up as the big bad for the coming times in the Mandoverse era, do you guys think we'll see these guys show up at all?

One argument against them showing up I can think of is that in the recent Thrawn Alliances comic adaptation, we got our first canon drawings of Grysk, and they kind of just look... plain, and are introduced without much fanfare. They wouldn't give us our first look at a potential big threat for the galaxy in some comic adaptation without even making a big deal out of it, right?

As much as I am excited for what's to come, especially Ahsoka season 2 and Filoni's film, I am curious as to if we're going to see more motivation behind Thrawn's actions or not, because as it stands, in both animation and live action, as cool as Thrawn has been, we've never seen why he is so loyal to the Empire, that is totally left to the books as of now.

What do you guys think?

HI everyone, I will past a post I just made on r/StarWarsAhsoka about the rhyme from the chamber on Arcana since what it says could be very helpful for future speculation about the season2.

UPDATE: Some other people also translated the message, but alas it eluded my notice. Here's a link from the jedi forums and here's the website of the show designer, it's gorgeous!

Ok, so there are some runes in the chamber on Arcana, the planet on which Ahsoka finds the map, and I gave a shot at deciphering them some time ago, but alas a lot was still missing. Then earlier today I googled if someone else made it and after getting in contact with this guy, I found out that they managed to translate the whole rhyme!!!! So here is what it says:

THREE THERE WERE WHO MADE THE JOURNEY, WITHOUT WHOSE KNOWLEDGE THERE IS NO RETURNING. A PATHWAY CONNECTING NEAR AND FAR, ACROSS THE HEAVENS STAR TO STAR. DESPITE GREAT POWERS WHICH DO OBJECT, THIS SECRET WAY THE THREE PROTECT. SO HEED THE PATH WITH A WATCHFUL EYE, FOR IF YOU WANDER YOU WILL DIE.

And this immediately spawns a bunch of questions: who are the Three, is this pathway WBW?? Who are the powers that object?

They could be the great mothers, since their knowledge was essential for Morgan to find them and then they (together with the whole race of Nightsisters) returned to Dathomir, which could be the returning that the rhyme speaks of. The figures seen on the wall also speak positively of that, but they too could be the way the Mortis gods presented themselves to the builders of the temple (be they Zeffo or Dathomiri (if you recall in some concept art of the temple on Arcana there were engravings of the Zeffo)). The three could also be the Mortis gods of course, and this could perhaps give us the backstory of how they came to such powers: maybe they made that journey and found the source of their power on Peridea - say the fountain of power, who knows. And maybe they were in origin Dathomiri?

As for the pathway, "connecting near and far" looks like a perfect description of the world between worlds(!): could it be that that is how they got there and that they are protecting it? So far, the only entrance to WBW that we saw was guarded by the mural of the Mortis gods so it would fit with that one. And if that were so, then Baylan would potentially be seeking an entrance to the WBW! And now taking into account his sentence: "What I seek is the beginning, so I may finally bring this cycle to an end" it would suggest that he wants to enter WBW and perhaps go to the very beginning of the Jedi order? Maybe to the era when the Jedi and Sith separated from the Je'daii order? And he wants to undo that - maybe that would prevent the cycle of total destruction if all the force users were in the middle? And maybe if the Three are the mortis gods the power that objects to them guarding the WBW is Abeloth? We will have to wait and see for sure but it is really interesting to speculate about all of this.

What are your thoughts on all of this, what meaning do you make out of this rhyme?

P.S. Btw, I googled to see if someone had had any chance in deciphering runes yesterday after midnight, so it was still 22nd, and today I found out the message from arcanafoundry, and only recently have I learned that today is the anniversary of Ahsoka!! The Force was really at work on this one :)). I absolutely loved this show, can't wait for season 2!!

He was quite fond of the word "eternal" after all. Eternal Empire, Eternal Emperor, it only makes sense that he also founded a cult known as the Sith Eternal. And the one Emperor Palpatine led from the time of the original trilogy all the way up to the sequels was just its latest incarnation.

And instead of retreating to Dromund Kaas, in the new timeline, Vitiate retreated to Exegol after the fall of Korriban. Where he would rebuild the Sith Empire. Could be fitting since Exegol is in a remote location that's nearly impossible to find.

Has Lucasfilm ever given a reason why some droids speak at least some language (3po, Death Star droid, 9D9) and others just beep (astromechs, mouse droids, Gonk droids)?

Why don’t all droids speak at least some language? Some droids are older and simpler than others and I’m sure there were lots of manufacturers, but of all the droids who I would think need to speak, it would be an astromech because what if your translator screen malfunctioned in the midst of battle, for example?

Shawn Levy recently spoke about his upcoming Star Wars movie in a recent interview (linked below), and he had a few brief things to say regarding what Star Wars meant to him, giving a very small idea of what we might be able to expect. Do you have any ideas of what his Star Wars film could be about regarding:

• Plot
• Time period
• main characters
• General hopes and theories

Whether Shawn Levy's Star Wars film ever comes out is the next question, however I think, given enough creative control he might be the director Star Wars needs during these dark times.

Link to interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=658mMj3iqFg

Acolyte Season 2 Speculation

From what I've heard, Leslye Headland has confirmed Qimir is Darth Plagueis' apprentice. We still don't know his Darth title or for how long exactly he's been in an apprenticeship role with the Sith. It's been implied in the last few episodes of the Acolyte season 1, Qimir was the Padawan to Vernestra Rwoh. We don't know what exactly happened, which lead to his expulsion from the Jedi Order and or why she tried to kill him besides the fact he embraced his darkness.

This is my theory and prediction for a season 2. I don't think Plagueis was the one who found and either resuscitated or resurrected Qimir or even initially trained him. It wasn't the Muun, but the Bith, Darth Tenebrous. I think Qimir is the canonized version of Darth Venamis especially given his knowledge of poisons and cortosis as well as the need for finding an acolyte. We know the Plagueis novel isn't canon; however, Disney canon barrows bits and pieces from Legends. With that reasonable assumption in mind, I think it was Tenebrous who found Qimir after Vernestra tried to off him. He sensed his potential in the dark side and nursed him back to health. Tenebrous trained him in secret for the same reasons he did with the Legends version of Venamis.

The relationship between Tenebrous and Plagueis plays out the same with the latter betraying and murdering the former. Plagueis is the Sith master and is challenged by Qimir to avenge his master's death. The difference being rather than using him for his experiments with midichlorian manipulation, Plagueis actually takes Qimir as his apprentice for the time being. He uses Qimir to find out precisely what Tenebrous taught him (in the case their shared master bequeathed any knowledge he wasn't privy to). Qimir knows this and either he does know something Plagueis doesn't or pretends to in order to keep himself alive and to further his own knowledge and increase his own power under Plagueis' begrudging guidance. Qimir knows one day Plagueis will kill him so he desperately seeks out his own student in the hopes of joining forces and slaying the Muun.

Qimir will instruct Osha in the ways of the Sith and when the final confrontation happens, Plagueis will reveal he knew of Qimir's betrayal and has been preparing for it since then moment he took him on as his own apprentice. Plagueis as we know has been spying on Qimir the entire time of the Acolyte season 1 after all. During the climatic duel between the three, Plagueis will inform Osha he for a time observed and trained Mother Aniseya. He attempts to lure her to his side during the fight with that and with the promise of teaching her what Qimir can't. That being how to channel and use her mother's abilities and disclose her true origins, which we know Sol was close to figuring out. This being she and Mae where of one consciousness split in two at birth and this only happened when witches (using the dark side) manipulated the power of a vergence in the Force to unnaturally create life. He could even been the one who made up the rythme and had been watching the twins for a long time.

Anyway, Plagueis offers Osha the chance at revenge against Qimir for murdering her friends, Yord and Jecki. Qimir is caught off guard as Osha turns against him. Plagueis stops fighting (it's implied it wasn't even a challenge for him) as Qimir and Osha fight each other. Plagueis observes and is slightly impressed at how well Qimir managed to train Osha. Osha finally gets Qimir in a comprising position and is about to kill him. Plagueis encourages her to finish off Qimir and become his new apprentice, but that's when Vernestra shows up with Mae.

Osha being emersed in the dark side ignores the Jedi and her sister as she delivers the fatal blow to Qimir. Mae calls out to Osha and that's when she snaps out of it. She goes to her and manages to restore her memories (indicating Qimir taught this technique to her). Vernestra goes to Qimir and apologies for failing him and he dies in her arms without forgiving her. Plagueis is disgusted and orders for Osha to kill her sister and the Jedi master. Osha doesn't, which leads to Plagueis swooping in, dueling, and slaying Vernestra. He kills Mae with a Force choke and incapacitates Osha. When Osha wakes up she sees Mae's body in stasis in Plagueis' lab on Sojourn and she's restrained. Plagueis uses the twin to further his study on Midichlorian manipulation and how to create life (without the means of a vergence) eventually leading to him indirectly creating Anakin with Sidious later on. As the Force strikes back against them.

The second season ends on a somber note since it's a show about the Sith. But there is a shred of "hope" which coincidentally explains how the Jedi know about the Rule of Two. We know how the Sith rise, but the second season of the Acolyte ends with Vernestra clinging to life. Yoda sensed the disturbance in the Force and brings senior members of the Jedi High Council with him to investigate. They arrive at the site where the fighting took place. Plo-Koon, Yarael Poof, Oppo Rancisis, Ki-Adi-Mundi, and Yaddle are with Yoda and while they're looking, Yoda alone finds Vernestra. In her dying moments she has a vision about how the Sith rise. She briefly sees Palpatine and Vader overlooking the construction of the Death Star, but with Plagueis' shadow behind them. In her dying breath she tells Yoda something like "The Sith... Rule... One master... One apprentice..." And she dies terrified of the future and looking over at the body of Qimir.

I might comeback to this and edit it later on, but just wanted to know what you guys think about this? I could see how they might avoid Tenebrous altogether except for maybe a name drop and just have Plagueis straight up being Qimir's master from the onset, but the rest of what I wrote above could still happen.

Edit: Please don't down vote my post into oblivion just because you didn't like the Acolyte. If you disagree that's fine, but don't bring that hate here for a show you didn't like.

First, the thing that tipped me off is the name of the droid Nick Frost is playing, SM-33 or Smee.

Then I remembered Jude Law's character in Skeleton Crew is primarily seen wearing green. The same color Peter Pan wears.

In footage shown at a panel awhile back (I believe it was Star Wars Celebration) his character was seen using the force. Considering this takes place in The Mandalorian era, he could be an Order 66 surviving Jedi. Maybe a youngling or Padawan who never really grew up.

In the synopsis released today, we learn the kids get swept off to a distant galaxy, not unlike the Darling children getting whisked off to Neverland.

One of the Pirates from Mandalorian Season 3 was also seen in the panel trailer.

Also, in the promo info today, we learned the hover bikes the kids ride on is integral to the story. Just like the Darling kids learning to fly

Maybe I'm reaching here, and I don't think the story will be a 1:1 copy, but I do think we can have a rough idea of what might happen if we look at Peter Pan as a big inspiration.

Ik canon is way more limited in this aspect but i’d anyways like to discuss it, by more sides I dont mean:

1. Lighside factions apart from jedi
2. Darkside factions apart from sith
3. Factions that say th force is only one (no sides)

I mean: 1.Something apart from both light and darkside. 2.Something like a faction which arranges elements creating their own vision 3. Something like the vision of the Aing Tii which view force as an espectrum

I think it's most likely a new Hutt. I doubt it's Fett since he's probably dead by now. If I had to choose I'd go with Fromm from the Droids cartoon. I like the idea of him being reintroduced along with his son Tig. Ideally for me I think it'd be interesting to see a group of criminals controlling the criminal underworld in an alliance. Like the Galaxy's crime being divided between Fromm, Fett, the Hutts, and finally the Crimson Dawn. Though I do like the idea of a revamped Tig losing everything after encountering the Droids and then becoming a sort of apprentice (maybe not a sith apprentice) to Maul prior to that mess with Vader. Given he's an alien his species can probably live a lot longer and I can see him still being around. He could easily be the current leader of the Crimson Dawn if that's the case.

I suspect it's possible Darth Nihilus could be reborn in the modern era. I got this idea after watching some videos on him. Apparently he's not technically dead and in theory if his clothes or mask were to be placed on a person he'd possess them. I remembered Sidious was always collecting such things and doing experiments this got me thinking. What if Sidious in his arrogance brought Nihilus back? I could see him being like Thanos leading an army and committing genocide after genocide.

I also have an idea for how he could be back two if I'm being honest. The first is for Cal Kestis to survive an onslaught by the Empire and lose all his loved ones then in the ruins of Tanalorr something dark calls to him and he finds Darth Nihilus's mask and gets possessed becoming the new Lord of Hunger's host. Then after time passes he's finally able to leave Tanalorr and sets off on a killing spree collecting Nihilus's things across the galaxy. Ultimately completing his task at the end of his first appearance and facing off against Rey who he stomps, and she barely manages to escape him.

My second idea is as stated for Sidious to recreate him through horrible trial and error causing mass deaths and finally decides to perform a dark side ritual with Darth Nihilus's things and using his son Rey's father as a sacrifice. Then despite succeeding he's unable to control Nihilus and barely locks him up. That or Nihilus let's Sidious live but not out of mercy rather because the part of him that's Rey's dad wants Sidious to keep living in shame.

I really like the second idea as it plays into his title of Lord of Hunger I think a good plot line would be Nihilus chasing Rey throughout the galaxy and killing mass amounts of people. Like it starts with him going to where she last was with her parents and the bodies just start piling as he traces her steps then at the end when Rey goes to confront him she feels how powerful he is and runs.

I like the idea of Nihilus playing a Vader role for Rey and for him to be not just one being but a collective of spirits hungering for various things like revenge, closure, family, and love. I also think his power steadily increasing as he chases Rey would make sense with him becoming a planet destroyer when his hunger to be with his daughter fully sends him over the edge.

(Potential Skeleton Key spoilers)

This could be making a mountain out a molehill but a lot of things seem to suggest that the Peridea system will have a continued importance - Ahsoka and Sabine, Baylan and Shin will still be there in season 2, even if they will likely only be stuck for half of the season.

What really made me think that characters could permanently make a home in the Peridea galaxy is the fact it will be possibly further explored in the upcoming Skeleton Key series - four kids and an intrepid explorer called Jude Law accidentally end up in another galaxy or something

I’m not sure at all about this, but I think it’s convenient that there’s a new setting completely separated from the eventual sequel trilogy where Jedi can do Jedi things safe from Ben Solo’s turn to the dark side and Luke and Rey can be the last Jedi (in the main galaxy)

So the Jedi were on Brendok originally investigating a vergence when they were still able to actively feel and detect things within the force (before the dark side had mostly/fully clouded their vision, which is discussed in the movies). And the prophecy states the force will create a chosen one to bring balance to the force. Do you think that maybe the coven of force using witches found the vergence attempting to create life and manipulated it into splitting into two? This would make Osha/Mae’s singular being the forces original try to create the chosen one and their split/manipulation made it impossible for them to achieve their true potentials? If that’s the case, then it would also make sense to infer that the force willed the beginning events of The Phanton Menace and Qui Gon Jinn( a particularly strong force user who strongly believed in the prophecy in a time where it wasn’t a focus anymore) to Tatooine, a place where a vergence could have been disguised from a weakened and mostly blinded Jedi Order so he could discover the 2nd and “successful” attempt at the chosen one?

Obviously just rambling speculation but the show had enough little tidbits for a thinking mind to connect a few dots in my head and wanted to see if it made sense to anyone if they even chose to read this 😂 thanks

We have seen Darth Plagueis is the Acolyte finale and many people think that this breaks the rule of 2 but it doesnt!
I am thinking that Qimir was the old apprentice of Darth Tenebrous after he left the Jedi Order. Qimir then made a mistake or something and left the Sith Order. Qimir doesn't care if he breaks a rule of the Sith because he isn't one anymore.
Darth Tenebrous sees that Qimir is making a lot of trouble and sends his new apprentice(Darth Plagueis) to keep an eye on him.
Comment if you think that this is realistic or not.

Peace is a lie. We hear that, well almost all of it anyways, from his own mouth. And that sets us off on the journey of Qimir.

There is only passion. He meets Osha and he immediately changes. Even in front of Mae his drunken cat mask starts slipping.

Through passion I gain strength. When he sees Osha again he pauses for a moment as if to think about what he is about to do. And he realizes, yeah, she’s the one, and then he fucking solos 7 Jedi.

Through strength I gain power. Power here is not what you think it is. Power is over people. Twice he intentionally (and yes it is intentional) “loses” to Sol, so as to pit Osha against her loyalty to her former master, and her feelings. And twice…

POWER GIVES ME VICTORY he wins. He set out not to corrupt, but to nudge. To give the slight little push. Kill a Jedi without a weapon was double fold. Force choke, yes. But also kill the belief in the peace the Jedi believe in.

THE FORCE SHALL SET ME FREE It may be temporary given his creepy drinks milk out of the carton and sits on the couch watching tv eating cereal like chips roommate reveal, but for the time being he is definitely free in that moment he and Osha stand on the shoreline.

He’s a Sith guys, and I can’t wait to see how it is explored in season 2!

Those who don't know in Legends, Kibh Jeen was a Jedi Padawan who served in the Jedi Order during the last millennium of the Galactic Republic. He specialized as a Jedi Consular, focusing on learning the mysteries of the Force. Around 192 BBY, he began his training under the tutelage of Jedi Master Qornah, another Consular.

In 188 BBY, Jeen and Qornah were dispatched by the Jedi Council to investigate an ancient Sith fortress on the planet Almas in the Cularin system. While there, Jeen was tempted by the dark side presence and, despite his efforts to resist, ultimately embraced the dark side's lure. In a rage, Jeen murdered his own Jedi Master Qornah.

Jeen then entered the Sith fortress, studied the dark side, and became a Dark Jedi. He set out to subjugate the Cularin system, forming an army of pirates and criminals to wage a prolonged conflict known as the "Dark Jedi Conflict." Jeen's forces inflicted tremendous suffering on the inhabitants of the system.

At some point, Jeen learned that the Sith Order still existed and he affiliated himself with the Dark Force religion on Dromund Kaas. After years of battling the system's inhabitants and the Jedi, Jeen was ultimately defeated in a final space battle. As he died, he made cryptic remarks about the Sith and their Rule of Two.

Granted this is legends but what if some of those elements were Incorporated into the Stranger's own backstory essentially the Stranger was a Jedi Padawan, trained under the tutelage of Jedi Master Vernestra Rwoh. Much like Kibb Jeen's experiences on Almas, the Stranger was exposed to a powerful dark side presence during a mission with Rwoh. Unable to resist the whispered temptations of the dark side, the Stranger embraced its corrupting influence. In a moment of rage, he turned on and try killed his own Jedi master, betraying the Jedi Order.

Rwoh may have try to convince him to return to the light but unlike what happened with Imri it didn't work. Realized that her Padawan had fallen so completely to the dark side, she was forced to confront him. Though it was undoubtedly a difficult and tragic battle, Rwoh ultimately defeated her corrupted padawan leaving him the scars on his back and then somehow whether it is waterfall or what she somehow thought he was dead.

Unknown to her he was discovered by either Darth Plagueis or Darth Tenebrous becoming a sith student but he got a bit ambitious so he was searching for his own student and discovered Mae leading to the events of the show?

What do you think? Does the Stranger's backstory seem like a plausible new canon take on Kibb Jeen? Let me know your thoughts!

If it’s true that who we see in the cave is Plagueis, does anyone else think that him knowing about Osha and Mae can be his reasoning to manipulate and influence the force to create life? We know that Osha and Mae were created by their mother from the force. And assuming Plagueis knows that from Qimir, maybe he tries to create life himself with the force, which either A) creates Anakin or B) causes the forces to retaliate from the darkness he is using and creates Anakin as something to fight the darkness which makes him the Chosen One. Idk just something that popped in my head once I saw the figure in the cave, and it makes sense that since Plagueis knows how to save people from death with the force and now he knows the force can actually create life so now he tries to do that.