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The Dreaming is a vague, shifting realm of symbol, belief, and imagination where people go to, well … dream! It is also the home for fans of Neil Gaiman's critically beloved DC comic series, The Sandman, its Audible and Netflix adaptations, and its various spin-offs.

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Kai’ckul watching Nada in Hell

If anyone listens to hip hop and rap…this is how I felt my boy J. Cole was watching Kendrick whoop up on Drake.

I know it’s kinda unrelated, but as a black man I love when my guy Dream appeared as Kai’ckul.

I hope everyone is having a great week! Happy Friday!

Can’t wait for season 2!!!!!

3 Comments
2024/05/10
12:09 UTC

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Sand for sale

I have access to acres of top quality sand. I want to sell it, how do I start?

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2024/05/10
10:42 UTC

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Why didn’t *Spoiler’s* abdication seem to have any consequences?

When Dream was captured, it resulted in universal problems until he got free. And I remember hearing someone that at one point, Death abdicated as well from being burned out by her job, and everything simply stopped dying as a result until she came back (if I’m wrong about that, let me know. Maybe it was just a fanfiction and I’m misremembering). But there doesn’t seem to be any real consequences of Destruction leaving his post. Is there any explanation for that? 🤔

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2024/05/10
06:22 UTC

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Gave up Books of Magic about 3/4 of the way through Omnibus Vol. 1

I'm a big fan of The Sandman universe - I've read the OG series twice, Lucifer, and a few other storylines. I really, really wanted to get into Books of Magic. I got about 3/4 of the way through, a few issues past their trip through Hell, and gave it up. I couldn't keep characters straight, or understand who new characters were or if they were old characters with a new drawer so I didn't recognize them... I couldn't keep the finer points of the stories fresh (e.g. Tim's father gets visited by the woman he shares a cab with and her son Cyril is suddenly important?!). Anyhow, it's a bit odd since Peter Gross's work in The Unwritten is amazing, but this just feels like the story insists upon itself.

I'm curious if anybody else had this experience? Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I felt like I shouldn't be looking up the story on Wikipedia after I've sunk nearly 1300 pages into a storyline.

2 Comments
2024/05/09
15:39 UTC

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Found on fb

Made me think of Matthew

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2024/05/09
14:56 UTC

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Title

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2024/05/07
23:22 UTC

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why does the universe need death (read first)

with the other endless the universe goes on with out them and the aspect the embody still happens

things are still destroyed with out destruction

ppl still dream with out dream ect

but if death takes a holiday or anything people flat out stop dieing

and if she dies she is not replaced with a new aspect of her self she just resumes being herself

so why is she more absolute than the other endless

11 Comments
2024/05/07
21:56 UTC

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so yeah.

49 Comments
2024/05/07
18:52 UTC

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Dead Boy Detectives-Looking for a jacet!

Hi, my Girlfriend Loved The Dead Boy Detectives, and really liked one of the jacets in that show. I've been triying to scour the internet but cannot find any reference to it at all! if anyone can help then it would absolutely make her birthday- its in episode 6 and I think it's crystal wearing it, a tweed bomber jacket- The best shot of it is about 3.45 mins in. Anything at all would be 10/10. Thankyou for reading and have a lovely day!

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2024/05/07
17:29 UTC

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IMHO - The Best One Second of TV

In E01:S04 of Sandman there is a single second >!when Morpheus is preparing to leave Hell after defeating Lucifer in the Oldest Game, at 36:49 there is a split second where Lucifer's face (played brilliantly by Gwendoline Christie) where you can see exactly what Lucifer lost when they were thrown out of Heaven. It was amazing acting. You could clearly see for the briefest instant that Lucifer could not fully suppress the anguish, torment and loss they must feel never being able to go home.!<

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2024/05/07
15:56 UTC

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Morpheus' star eyes

Didn't Neil gaiman say making Morpheus eyes look like star eyes would look bad and wouldn't have eye expressions on live action?

But in 2009 Watchmen, they tackled such limitations and made it successful. While DM isn't emotional guy, you could see so much eye expressions from him than Tom sturridge without CGI eyes.

Even if it is an issue of budget tightness, they could still use glass eyes instead of CGI.

What do you think about this criticism?

16 Comments
2024/05/06
04:07 UTC

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How did Lyta Hall originally get to the Dream Dome in Jed’s head?

I get that Brute and Glob snatched Hector’s soul after his death, but how did Lyta get there? Thanks, everyone!

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2024/05/06
01:32 UTC

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ok I don't know about anyone else but I noticed

that edwin looks more pale in his face then charles , I don't know if its the actor's skin colour or something.

in some scenes's I guess that they used different light's and colour effects and colour blending etc.

5 Comments
2024/05/04
21:04 UTC

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Simon in Dead Boy Detectives

In the scene where Edwin leaves Simon in Hell, Simon suddenly sees that his hands have stopped bleeding, and when Despair is watching, the same light and dark wing that we associate with Death appears. Is it possible that his regret and confession got him out of Hell?

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2024/05/04
20:43 UTC

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you know the episode "the case of the deviln house" where the "famliy" is stuck in a bloody loop.

is it actually base on a real life murder or something like that or is it just made up for the tv show?

because I can't find a similar thing thats real but nothing that sounds or looks the same.

sorry I read in my head^^

15 Comments
2024/05/03
20:07 UTC

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so did anyone else notice the werid end end credits song at the end of episode 4 of dead boy detectives?

it seems like a clue or something.

I don't know.

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2024/05/03
13:09 UTC

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So what do you guys think of Death in DBD?

I absolutely adored the show, it was brills mate! I loved it so much. However, I do have some problems with a little thing, specifically how Death is portrayed...

  • SPOILERS for those who haven't finished the series -

Death's portrayal in the first episode was great and everything we have seen in the Sandman, both series and comics.

However, Death's unseen appearances in the rest of the episodes feels sometimes a little... inconsistent with the rest of the canon, in both series and books.

  • In the murder dad's episode, it's shown Death takes the mom and the girls under her blue light, but dad goes with screamings and a red light, implying he goes straight to hell.

  • We then see perfectly clear that the two jock boys go straight to hell because a demon drags them down, with both the red lights and the screaming. And yet, Death doesn't show up, even if the DBD hide.

  • We also see that Edwin is taken to hell by the baby dolls demon. No Death either. A straight portal to hell and bye bye.

  • And then we see the closeted jock that killed Edwin receiving the blue light after he realizes he doesn't deserve hell or punishment. Even if he was already in hell, meaning Death took him out of hell?

  • Not going to mention the Lost & Found Department because that's a whole another canon that wasn't created by Neil Gaiman, but it can fit good enough along the Sandman canon, guessing that Death is probably their boss and the L&F Dept. is just the department for missing children (which they are).

Just like Dream has Lucienne, Matthew, Merv Pumpkinhead and other helpers in his realm, it fits into that kind of theme.

So the thing is, Death in the comics and series is consistently shown to appear to everybody when they die, being good or bad, deserving or not, if its their time its their time. Being dragged to hell is a consequence that can happen AFTER she takes your soul, but that's not where she leads the spirits of people, she just leads them to her realm, the Sunless Lands, and then they will go to their respective places they will eventually go, being heaven, hell, Valhalla, what have you.

But she usually just works in the mortal realms, where creatures can die. She wouldn't take Simon's soul out of hell to take it to heaven, that would be another kind of thing with I guess angels and demons.

And very few times, she's shown to be more than angry with people, or other beings, but the rest of the time is her been cheerful and peppy. Her whole deal is that she's compassionate and will be there for you, even if you don't deserve it.

As we see in the DBD show, Death is looking for ghosts that have unfinished business, and the boys help her indirectly by helping the ghosts in their mysteries. She comes and takes the ghosts when they're ready.

However, it seems extremely out of character to me how Death shows up only for regular spirits, and for those who were wicked, evil, murderous or assholes, she doesn't show up and leaves hell to take over. Even if they absolutely deserve it (90% did of course).

Sorry for the LONG text, but I tried to explain myself as best as I could.

So, what do you guys think of this?

25 Comments
2024/05/03
05:24 UTC

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Is sandman Orpheus included in the deluxe editions

Couldnt find this info else where so asked here
Orpheus is on sale here but was planning to buy the deluxe editions so dont want to buy it twice

12 Comments
2024/05/03
03:09 UTC

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The Children’s Crusade Reading Order?

All, I am on the Infinite app reading and it starts with Gaiman’s The Children’s Crusade #1 and then it has The Black Orchid Annual #1 and I am……..confused. Like a lot of confused. Was I supposed to understand anything that happened on the Black Orchid book? Nothing made sense. There was a mention of Free Country but none of the stories or characters made any sense in relation to the first book. Next is Animal Man Annual #1? Is that the correct reading order? Does the app have the right order? Signed, Confused

5 Comments
2024/05/02
00:36 UTC

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so we know that charles was really close to being dead when edwin met him for the first time but.

in what year did charles die?

unless I miss them saying the year.

9 Comments
2024/05/01
21:11 UTC

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DBD numbers...

Well, after 4 days since release it's that time when we get the bad news... Unfortunately DBD isn't getting much success into attracting the public 😭.

3.1M viewers in one 1 week it's just really low, experts are saying that if the show doesn't get any better next week the chanches of a renewal is almost impossible....

So please if you haven't watched yet, please try it! Recommend to your friends and family!

31 Comments
2024/04/30
20:11 UTC

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What is Despair talking about? 🔥🔥🔥

When Edwin goes to Despair's Realm she says that they are now friends and she will call him if she ever needs him

Is this a threat? A warning? Are they actually friends? Does that mean that the rest of Edwin's life will be full of despair? Give my boy a break 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

Edit: idk if I should clarify but this is from Dead Boys Detectives

9 Comments
2024/04/30
18:05 UTC

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DBD and cheating Death

Disclaimer: I have only read the first appearance of the Dead Boy Detectives and watched the new Netflix series. Read through all of main run Sandman though.

One thing I do not understand is how easy it seems for Charles and Edwin to cheat Death. She's one of the Endless, and perhaps the most powerful one at that. We know Endless are everywhere, all of the time. So my question is, how can two lost souls escape her many, many times by just running away or hiding in a corner? Surely she could sense them.

I am sorry if this has been explained in a piece of extended universe media, but I am really curious to know what you all think about this.

13 Comments
2024/04/30
08:23 UTC

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A few questions about how the Sanman universe works.

hi, how's everybody doing? I've read a few comic books set in the sandman universe and i'm gonna reread Overture soon, I've got a few questions about the setting.

Does Death of the Endless actually takes people to the several heavens and hells that exist in the sandman universe? I saw that several mythical afterlives exist in a lucifer comic,does she take people there? is she a psychopomp?
speaking of him,Is it true that once Lucifer told Destiny of the Endless off, because Lucifer's a big believer in Free Will and thus hates destiny? if so in which issue did that happen?
EDIT: Sandman*,sorry

4 Comments
2024/04/30
04:15 UTC

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