/r/Retconned
A public sub for those experiencing the phenomenon of the Retcon Effect, or Real-Life Retroactive Continuity, sometimes known as the Mandela Effect. This sub is meant to be a place to discuss the effect under the presupposition that for whatever reason, it is really happening, at the exclusion of the theory of Confabulation.
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Retconned : Mandela Effect, Berenstein Bears & Other Dilemnas
/r/Retconned is a public sub for discussion of the Retcon Effect under the presupposition that for whatever reason, it is really happening, at the exclusion of the theory of Confabulation or "it's always been that way", "you remembered it incorrectly", "you were taught wrong when you were growing up", "surely mapping technology has gotten better by now", "logos change over time" or even "it's a very common mix-up/misconception".
Reports of micro-effects, or personal-reality-breaking experiences, are welcomed.
Rule# | Description |
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1 | No Name calling |
2 | No Down Voting (All Down votes will be automatically Upvoted to Zero by the Mods) |
3 | No telling people they have memory or mental problems. |
4 | You may discuss confabulation only in a separate thread for that purpose. |
Confabulation Thread | |
All other theories may be discussed, in a polite and respectful manner. | |
5 | No Trolling. |
6 | Be polite and respectful of all people posting. If you disagree with them or think that their idea is absurd, you are still required to be kind to them. DO NOT TELL ANYONE THEY ARE WRONG ABOUT WHAT THEY REMEMBER. |
7 | Do not tell anyone that any theory they propose is wrong, stupid, or impossible. You may discuss alternate possibilities but you must be nice to people. |
8 | You must not slander other users in the forum in any way. |
9 | Do not dismiss other people's memories or experiences just because it doesn't match YOURS or you don't agree with it. |
10 | This is NOT /r/Politics. There will be NO discussion of politics regardless of your leanings. [Mentioning a politicians name if required for discussing an ME is fine (for example the famous Hillary name spelling change flipflop), but keep it neutral, there should be no indication of political leanings in your post please] |
11 | Posts should be at least somewhat related to the Mandela Effect. If the relationship is not understood by the mods nor explained decently in the post, your post may be removed. (however comments on posts may wander from the subject naturally as long as they follow our other rules) |
Please be advised that this sub is designed for experiencers/believers in the ME. If you seem to be posting here with the intent to consistently and exclusively deny the ME or have a history of doing so in other ME social media locations, you may be asked to leave. Contributing to this subreddit requires decorum, tact and diplomacy even in regard to ideas, theories, or MEs that you may not personally agree with.
If you come here with the sole purpose of mocking our members and/or cross-posting our threads to be mocked by others, your post will be removed without warning AND YOU WILL BE BANNED.
Just because you don't agree with or understand the topic found in this subreddit doesn't give you the right to disrespect its members.
TL;DR - Toxic, negative behavior WILL get you banned here, so check the attitude at the door and behave.
Every public space will attract its share of trolls. We have a large team of moderators dedicated to making this space a fun and troll-free place to be, but we need your help. If you are being harassed by a troll, please report this to the moderation team so that we can take care of the issue.
Giant List of Lots of Collected MEs
https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/4sv9nb/heres_the_hundreds_of_res_on_my_lists/
Mandela Effect Chat options:
Private Discord Channel ME Chat: Contact /u/soulsteall to join.
Public Discord Channel ME Chat: Contact /u/fartontoast to join.
Other active Mandela Effect Subreddits:
/r/Mandela_Effect allows some skeptic talk on main threads
/r/MandelaEffect w/ lots of skeptic talk and on topic threads only
/r/MESociety is a private sub, must submit a request there to join
/r/DimensionalJumping for deliberate reality shift attempts
/r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix dedicated to personal mandela effects
Other active Esoteric Subreddits:
/r/Soulnexus/ to go even deeper down the rabbit hole, nature of the universe, ascension, etc.
/r/Retconned
Have you seen the movie Fred Clause? Was there a 2nd movie or not for you?
I never really cared for this movie but we watched it this year, was surprised. I am interested to see if anyone else has similar memories or not.
If you haven't encountered it, a current Mandela Effect is that revelations now speaks of "The Wolf lying down with the Lamb" instead of a Lion (pretty significant because that's the Lion of Judah but I digress.)
I was paging and through Disney Plus, and noticed an old short animated film called Lambert the Sheepish Lion that I'd never seen before.
It's just a small film about a lion that hard stork delivered to a family of sheep, but he's ostracized and they don't want him to be next to them.
But then a big bag wolf comes along, and the lion chases him off, and the sheep accept him and the lion lays down with the lambs.
This feels like a cartoon from the Lion/Lamb universe, and even has the lion defeating a wolf.
I swear he died a few years ago. Anyone remember this?
In a comment on another post it was pointed out txt many people can't handle the idea of flexible retrocausality and "short circuit" if you try to introduce it. This is possibly a protective mechanism to keep them from going psychotic.
What makes us different from them? Why are our psyches ok with this idea?
This was a band I came across about 15 years ago, I remember reading through band recommendations and they were always spelt as The Courteneers. About a year after discovering them, I noticed it was actually The Courteeners and was quite surprised, thinking that it was quite a daggy name.
Here is a article from 2008 and they're spelt as Courteneers https://www.theguardian.com/music/2008/apr/14/popandrock2
This NME article spells it wrong in the title
https://www.nme.com/news/music/the-courteeners-27-1238624
Same as this Mirror article
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/the-courteneers-frontman-liam-fray-is-a-bee-204208
In this album review from 2014 they're spelt as Courteneers https://thecdcritic.wordpress.com/tag/the-courteneers/
Now this may be a simple case of people misspelling the band and not actually a ME so I'm wondering if anyone else remember them as Courteneers?
Promised I'd make guacamole for the Christmas potluck and stumbled upon these bad boys. Have had a shit few months, so I'm hopeful I've reentered my original dimension lmao
Happy holidays, Haas brethren!
https://www.ralphs.com/p/fresh-jumbo-haas-avocado/0000000004770
https://www.kroger.com/p/fresh-jumbo-haas-avocado/0000000004770
So.. I tend to not post here much but I am someone who remembers for example, fries. I would remember "Cajin" fries. However, I feel like I could have sworn I never saw the word "cajun" on fast food restaurants. I swear the reality I was from It wasn't "Cajun" but "Cajin" I went to popeyes mulitple times literally for several years (all the way before this early 2024 shift for me)
I don't know if it changed once or twice but it's either "Cajin" or "Caijin" but this has been on my head for weeeeeks I just need to get this out there. Is there anyone else who remembers the spice being worded different?
Found a video originally from tictok where somebody shows how somebody else uses and old mobile phone to view the "original versions" of stuff like the Monopoly Man monocle, Pikachu's black tail etc.
Since I have no working pre 2008 phone myself, I hope someone here can give this a try and tell us all if it is just a well made fake or not.
Hello everyone, and welcome. I will tell you my story about how it all began and how I ended up in this community and how I came to know the Mandela Effect. This will be long, so get comfortable, and without further ado, let’s begin.
It all starts when I was in elementary school. I had some issues with bullying from my classmates; they were the typical problems one faces—nothing unusual. I had a problem with a teacher at my old school, and because of that, I failed a year due to my history with her.
This is where it begins, in the year 2012. I still remember that important day in my life. That day, I went to school and entered the classroom (1A), so to speak, after being held back. I stayed in the classroom for a while; there were other kids who were calm, not knowing that later the first group (1A) would become my friends. Then a teacher intervened and said she came for me due to an error and moved me to the other classroom (1B). I went with her, and here I would also meet those who would become my friends later on. The teacher guided me to my desk, and I sat down (although it’s strange that she never introduced me or told me my name; she just told me to sit).
When I sat down, I attended classes every day; everything was normal until I met someone. That someone was a girl with two pigtails. I started to like her and eventually fell in love with her. I used to talk to her at the entrance and during recess, playing with her. She had red lips as if she wore lipstick and a mole next to her mouth. One day, I asked her for a pen, and she told me she didn’t have one but suggested I borrow one from a friend of hers. When I went to ask her friend, she gave it to me, and immediately, chemistry sparked between us. I looked into her eyes, and she looked back at me, handing me the pen, which was blue with various colors. When I no longer needed it, I returned it and asked her name, which she told me.
We started chatting; she was cheerful and sweet, treating me well and sometimes smiling at me. We teamed up in class, just the two of us. I helped her with a crossword puzzle once, and we made jokes about a classmate, laughing together. We were the perfect couple in class; even the teacher noticed and was happy that we were together. My luck seemed to be turning, as in 2011, I had a year filled with bullying from my former classmates, and now I had friends and someone I shared chemistry with.
Then one day, my dad brought me a surprise: my first Xbox, the classic Xbox. He got it from a First Cash store along with the following games: Codename: Kids Next Door – Operation: V.I.D.E.O.G.A.M.E., Forza Motorsport, and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2.
When I played the first game, I only got to the donut shop level. Then I played the second game, and it was amazing to drive a car in it. However, when I took out the game disc, I realized there was another disc inside the console called Halo 2. The cover looked very interesting, so I decided to ask my dad about it. He said the person hadn’t mentioned that game to him and probably forgot to take it out. I decided to put it in, and everything started well. I began the mission “The Heretic,” and I was impressed by the voice acting and graphics. After the cinematic ended, I continued with “Arsenal” and learned how to play the game, even though I struggled a bit. In the end, I loved the game and thanked my dad for the Xbox.
Days passed while I enjoyed my Xbox and the special person in my life. I still remember that the sun was yellow and nostalgic; it was beautiful to see, especially in the afternoons, and you could look at it without going blind. One afternoon, I even played with my friends and the special person in my life, pretending to be Bowser and chasing them. I had a lot of fun, and the sun shone with that nostalgic sunset.
One day, my parents took me to the center of my city, and the sun stood out; it was very nice and the people were friendly, smiling and happy, not so dull as they are now. The trees and the sky were beautiful, and the time felt slow, like a 24-hour day. However, I have a vague memory of May 21, 2012, when my friends and my special person in my life died because of the sun. I remember being at school, and all my friends were crying because it was the end of the world. The sun was very intense; everyone panicked and cried. The only thing I remember is that the girl I liked told me that she wanted me to be her boyfriend and that she had always liked me. I told her I liked her too, and I said goodbye when I looked up at the sky. The sun emitted a very intense white light that blinded me, and after that, I don’t remember anything else. For some reason, I don’t remember the next day or anything, just that I continued my normal life.
(I should clarify that days before May 21, there was unbearable heat that made me wear shorts and use a fan; my head hurt, and my parents had to give me a pill for the headache.)
After two months, everything was the same. One day, a junk dealer came to my house and gave my parents an antenna to watch television channels. My parents installed it on the roof, and that’s when I discovered Cartoon Network, where they aired Adventure Time. I remember the episode with the little trees that explode at the end. (I should note that they once aired the episode The Enchiridion, where they showed all the eliminated animated covers with the voices of Finn and Jake, where Finn stabs Jake at the end, and the narrator says it was a joke and that they would now show the real episode and apologized.)
After that, I discovered Regular Show, among other cartoons. The best part was the Toonix; they were cute and added a nice touch to the channel. One day, I turned on my TV and saw that MAD would premiere at night. When it premiered, I didn’t understand most of its jokes. During those days, I ate my favorite cereal, Fruit Loops.
However, something happened one day with my grandmother around June or July. We took her to the hospital, but before we left, I was watching Nick Jr., specifically Dora the Explorer. Before we left, I felt a strange sensation as if the old world of 2012 was bidding farewell, as if things would no longer be the same. It was like I was also saying goodbye to the old world, as if I wouldn’t return home in the end.
We took my grandmother to the hospital and waited outside for news about her. One night, the TV outside the hospital reported the CERN news, where they discovered something about a particle. I hardly paid attention, but others were very focused on it. The next morning, my grandmother came out safe and sound, and we brought her back home. Afterward, my parents went to sleep, and I turned on the TV to watch Max & Ruby. I felt something strange for a moment, but it disappeared, and I went to bed to sleep.
Time passed, and one night, MAD aired a short called “Flammable.” It started normally with a woman singing the following song:
Do you feel
That you are not real
A puppet too
How horrible it is,
You start to think
That they made you this way
A puppet that
Is made of paper,
And don’t think they
Take the glory
Because you are the one they want
You are the best,
Let me tell you
You shouldn’t be sad
You have a glow
You must release the light
Living this way,
The light gives us
Color and love,
But be careful with your skin
You are made of paper
You could catch fire and burn
You could melt and die,
Burn, burn, burn
When are we going to
Know, know, know
A fire
Has come, come, come
And everything looks upside down
All for being very flammable
Obey the firefighters
And don’t stop dreaming
When it all ends, ends.
However, I was traumatized and scared by the ending where the boy dies because of the fire. Yet, something strange happened; I remember that at the end, the girl singing had her face melt off, revealing that she was a robot all along. But now the ending has changed, and she is taken away by a police officer and arrested, and that’s where it ends. The strangest part is that there are people like me who remember the same thing; I’ll leave a screenshot of the comments.
I also had a similar experience with an episode of Chowder featuring a baby minotaur. It was terrifying; I remember being scared when one of the characters shouted what the comments say, but now it doesn’t say that anymore.
Several months passed, and the dreaded month arrived when everything changed forever. Days before, the news announced that the world was going to end and that something went wrong at CERN, and to enjoy our last days with family and loved ones. Everywhere said the same thing—news reports and governments online as well. I was devastated, crying and scared by what I heard; my parents were also crying, and I hugged them. People outside were the same; it was chaos. You could hear people crying, and I prayed in my mind for the world not to end, hoping it was a lie. But it was true; the governments and news outlets looked scared and worried. There was nothing left to do. I told my parents to celebrate our last Christmas on December 21 at my uncle’s house with my cousins, and that’s what we did.
But first, I wanted to say goodbye to my friends and the girl I liked. It was December 21, 2012. I was walking with my parents to my uncle’s house; it was night, and we were heading to celebrate Christmas. As we approached my uncle’s house, I looked up at the sky and saw a glow. I saw something fall like a meteorite towards the Earth until a bright white light blinded me again. After that, the last thing I remember is seeing myself in the house I currently live in, asleep or lying down.
But the strange thing is that after that, I teleported to my old house, which looked the same, but I couldn’t move or do anything. The atmosphere was dark, like a filter from the movie The Matrix, like a blurry dream. From there, everything changed; nothing was the same. From then on, strange things started happening to me, and as the years passed, I recovered some memories and began to suspect that something was wrong.
Then, some time later, in 2019, I discovered the Mandela Effect, and that is my origin story and how it all began.
(If I had to describe how the year 2012 was, it would be with this song...)
So, this is a strange Mandela Effect I came across that blew my mind and I was curious if there was anyone else with this memory. I was watching this video (Todd in the Shadows is a great channel BTW!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIjE8R_j5h4&list=PLLznZMqdhi_T5X0XrVX16lTN0um7Onpkf&index=14 and saw Butthole Surfers referred to as a one hit wonder with Pepper being their only hit single. I thought this was odd because they had two hits and arguably Pepper wasn't even the biggest one of the two.
So, in my memory the Butthole Surfers released Pepper, which was a hit, and then followed it up with a song called TV Star which ended up being probably an even bigger hit or at least roughly on the same level. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zHsgZ38_Jc The song is talking about a TV star that the singer is in love with, until the very last verse where he mentions a girl named Ellen he loves even more. I remember hearing either a DJ or someone on MTV pondering if the women he was referring to might have been Christina Applegate and Ellen DeGeneres. I didn't watch MTV much but I have a memory of music video featuring the lead singer singing the song while driving his car and a beautiful blonde woman wearing jeans and a rolled up red shirt and dancing during the chorus.
Now, on this timeline TV Star was never released as a single and it looks like on youtube it doesn't have anymore views than the other non-singles on the album. Now it seems Pepper was their only hit, they truly were a one hit wonder. Apparently their second single was Jingle of a Dog's Collar which I remembered to be a decent song but it didn't strike me as a radio hit kind of song and it never did gain much traction but it does have nearly double the views on youtube as TV Star at least.
This is all very odd and disorienting to me. I have clear memories of that song being a big hit, being on the same level as Pepper. I have clear memories of hearing the song constantly on the radio and of a music video existing. Now it is just another album track of no particular significance. I know its a long shot but does anyone else remember this song being big?
https://www.krossblade.com/history-of-quadcopters-and-multirotors
Thought this was kind of odd, the wright brothers invented the airplane in 1903 Everyone knows this at this point. This was taught to us in school in first or second grade.
But the first quadcopter was in 1924? I feel like this would have been more notable than the wright brothers flight. I've genuinely never have even heard of this recently doing research on drones.
When contestants were booed off the stage during Amateur Hour, what do you remember happening?
Didn't Sandman "sweep" them offstage with a broom? I can't find any videos of this. Now he uses a club/bat-looking thing or a chair. Or he just walks them offstage.
Just caught this on another sub… interesting theory that time is in fact a perceived, conscious illusion and in fact all this is, was, and ever will be already exists:
Of particular interest for me, was this bit:
Barbour’s calculations reveal that memories and experiences may not be remnants of the past but direct connections to other configurations of reality. When you recall an event, you are not retrieving a distant point in time but accessing another configuration that exists alongside the present. This interpretation offers new insights into phenomena like déjà vu and the subjective nature of time.
Annie Lennox, the well-known singer from Eurythmacs, is alive again! And boy, her group's name has changed to Eurythmics now! I used to listen to her music and watch her videos in the '80s on MTV. I saw her perform on many shows, and I remember reading that she had died from breast cancer decades ago. And now, this name change! When I was looking for information, the first thing that came up was a band called Eurythmacs, and they named themselves as a tribute to Annie Lennox and Eurythmics. This is insane, just insane. Does anybody else remember any of this, or am I the only insane one in this asylum?
https://soundcloud.com/user-12627639
By the way there is another ME related to them, the lyrics change from "sweet dreams are made of these" to made of this!
Edith: In response to one of the comments, I remember there were three female artists in the '80s who passed away in a short period of time, one after another. Roxette's singer, Marie Fredriksson, was one, and Dolores O'Riordan from The Cranberries was the other. All of these talented ladies died between the late 1990s and early 2000s, and as far as I remember, the cause of death was cancer. I remember wondering what on earth was going on at that time. Checking the records now, Dolores died in 2018; she was found dead in her bathroom, and the cause of death was drowning! Does that sound familiar? And Marie Fredriksson died in 2019 of brain cancer! At least I’m happy they lived longer in this timeline.
Im down in puerto rico and Im seeing the map, I remember it having a weird bay and penisula to its northeast that was similar to the bottom part of massachussets. I cant find the area I was thinking of anywhere now even though I studied a geography app for a large part of the pandemic. It looks like the way puerto rico was shown has changed and now its just two little islands where it once was a small narrow land bridge.
So for context a Infohazard is information that could cause you or someone else harm from simply knowing it
A good example is: Grabbing the thumb and shaking the wrist, this action can cause the thumb extensor tendon to rupture, leading to serious injury
So my question is would we classify the Mandela Effect as a infohazard?
I SAW HIS TAIL DAYS AGO. I was looking into the pikachu mandala effect, and I was amazed his tail was just blank. Just yellow. DAYS. it was yellow. It was literally just yellow. I was thinking It had a black tip at the end but suddenly it was just yellow. But now wtf. It has like brown at the base. I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO SURE OF A MANDELA EFFECT. I literally just was looking at this. I am terrified. The thinker really got to me, and kind of roped me into this, but wtf is happening now. ITS NOT EVEN BLACK ANYMORE. Whatever is happening, things are changing FAST. Before our eyes. Somebody be terrified with me, this is insane.
This might only apply to a few people here. But I recall surge discontinuing around sometime around 2016 But I started drinking surge in 2011. I specifically remember 2011 because I got hooked on mountain dew game fuel when MW3 came out. So its a bit of a core memory for me. After game fuel disappeared, I tried surge and got obsessed with it. I remember I was so addicted to surge as a kid I use to buy 2 cans a day. I can't recall if coca cola had the 12 packs.
Doing research on it, it seems like it was brought back in 2015. But it was discontinued in 2003... I don't understand how I could have been drinking my favorite drink for 4 years before it got discontinued. I drank so much of the product I think I spent almost $1,500 on cans of surge over the years.
I don't understand how it could have been around in 2011 if it was discontinued in 2003?
edit : typo
I always have traveled on this line my whole life until the last several years. As the southbound train enters the Whitlock Ave station it makes a sharp left turn and I always saw though the window the tracks going in a straight line to the tunnel, which was just a short distance from the station.
Recently I went on an MTA site dedicated to all the NYC subway lines with photos of every station and track maps. A photo looking south of the Whitlock Ave station shows the tracks start out straight going toward the tunnel and then making a sharp right curve right before entering the tunnel making the tunnel entrance unseen when the train enters the station!
There are several photos of this and I was floored! Obviously they can’t move the tunnel entrance because it would be costly and needless.
I know this can’t be the way it has always been.
Found this in a random shop thought it looked odd
Just out of curiosity, what is the earliest age you can recall noticing a Mandela effect? You wouldn’t necessarily have to be cognizant of the Mandela effect phenomenon itself in this scenario.
For example, I remember Jiffy peanut butter from my childhood, and just assumed I was mistaken about the name when I was slightly older (late teens or early 20s).
Thank God, I'm okay. My parents calmed down that day. However, something unexpected happened in the early morning. My uncle ran out to my cousin's boyfriend's house, and my parents went after him. I was left alone in my house.
When they came back, I saw my cousin getting out of my parents' truck, crying. It turned out that she had gotten into a fight with her boyfriend and he had hit her. She managed to defend herself and came to my uncle's house.
After that incident, I had a strange dream. I dreamed that I was outside my house, but everything seemed different. I walked to a vacant lot and saw that the sky was clear with two moons at the same time, one separate from the other. One of them was different.
Currently, my parents continue to act strangely. Some things they do are:
Last day, I went with my parents to buy tacos with cheese. On the way, I saw a store and told my mom that I wanted to try empanadas. She told me that we had already tried them and that they were bad. But I never remembered having tried them.
I asked her when that was, and she didn't know how to answer me. Strangely, she changed the conversation. I told her the same thing again, but she said that she didn't remember the day. It was very strange. I don't know if it's a personal Mandela effect, but I decided to share it here since it was strange.
Okay what do you remember of this? For me it's always been 'These' doors not This/These like seriously WTF?
Hi Everyone, I recently found out about so many mandala’s effect, they all came overwhelmingly at night yesterday and after a full day of research I found something really off.
I have experienced many effects like the continents shifting, countries where they’re not supposed to be, and for the importance of this post, remembering the mona lisa without any smirk or smile at all. Here it’s where it gets interesting, I have videos and some photos I took when visiting france in late February this year and some of the photos are live, meaning it’s like a small video, I went frame by frame and I can’t find an explanation for the changes in her face, I understand it can be due to distortion from moving the camera but there are frames which I believe are clearly showing different face expressions, one smiling with a smirk, and the other more serious face which I always remembered. There’s also another video where it could be due to distortion but the photo seems pretty weird regardless.
Please let me know what you think, I feel like im loosing my mind