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I read a lot of theories about Micah's business in Strawberry in chapter 2, about how he intended to betray the gang from the beginning.

But none of these theories talk about the role of Norman, AKA "Skinny." What would be his connection to Micah's betrayal? Why wasn't he arrested with Micah, if they were together? Why did Micah kill him? Why did he have Micah's guns?

It's worth remembering that during the Five Finger Fillet activity in chapter 3, Micah says that he played with Norman and other guys in Strawberry. Does that mean Norman was an O'Driscoll?

I invite you all to leave your opinions and theories!

I'm pretty sure the original cult (i forgot the name) thought that there was a spaceship following the hale bop comet, and if they died, their soul would be able to board the ship. Has anyone tried this at Hanis Bethel when the ufo shows up? I doubt anything will happen, someone would've found it already, but its still worth a try.

So I was riding next to pronghorn ranch and I came across a stagecoach. I wanted to rob them because they looked rich and I did just that, but after I noticed something weird. This guy is named "Nathan Kirk" instead of "stranger". I was so confused about it so I googled "Nathan Kirk RDR2". Apparently Nathan Kirk is one of the bounties that you do with Sadie. But the thing is that I have already completed the epilogue and I'm not in a mission. Even the character models don't look the same with him right there and in the mission. This is probably a glitch but I would like to hear your take on it.

this all started back in 3 years ago in December of 2021 I found a video of Rob/john Marston saying what happened to Robert/spider here is the video link Rob Wiethoff on his experiences with Spider Madison (RDR1 Uncle voice & actor) (youtube.com) he got his name from a undisclosed hells angles member who gave it to him for removing a spider off his shoulder and his first main stream appearance was in the summer of 1992 in unlawful entry as a side character in 1994 spider was on ER as 4 separate 1:crazy man,2:douglas,3:an elevator rider and 4:wr,whipple after ER he took a 12 year hiatus then returned as his only picture on the internet him in pirates of the Caribbean in 2006 as the Turkish prisoner then in 2010 he played uncle well as Rob said in the video due to circumstances spider couldn't make it out so what happened to spider? as of now he has no socials or no public view on his life from what I can put together from stuff I see/hear on the internet he last time he talked to any was rob and there was poll and Roger Clark motioned him so its safe to say he is still in contact with some of his old RDR work pals in summary Robert Spider Madison just retired but at the end of the day he left us in a enigma with more question than answers.

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(sources) source 1 Rob Wiethoff on his experiences with Spider Madison (RDR1 Uncle voice & actor) (youtube.com) source 2 Spider Madison - IMDb

Does anyone have any detail on the town of pleasance. It has a lot of cryptic writings on the church and other buildings and I red somewhere there was a massacre there. Also something about the giant snake being right next to it and the devil being in form of a serpent. Please respond with any details you know about it

Hi folks, I've searched the sub thoroughly and haven't seen this explored so want to ask here before I go through the trouble myself.

I know people have brought the Manito Glade hermit to the Hermit Woman in Big Valley and vice versa, and had no luck RE: interactions that may shed light on their identities and their connections to Otis Miller. My question: has anyone brought either/both of them to the revolver itself in Rattlesnake Hollow, to see if that prompts any hidden dialogues?

I'll explore this myself if not, but don't have a save where I have access to New Austin & the hermit man/woman are still alive. If no one's tried this at least I'll justify a new playthrough lol.

Hello,

This is something I have been looking into over the past handful of months. Did a lot of testing on it and found something quite odd pertaining to Fort Riggs in southern big Valley close to the border of Great plains.

This will be the first post in a series of a few posts(hopefully) as I will expand on this and ideas and other theories potentially related to fort Riggs and other indigenous places and artifacts.

Fort Riggs is a former holding camp for indigenous people. The United States Army held indigenous people there and killed them some years before the story of rdr2 takes place..

Been doing some investigating about fort Riggs and I happened to find something very interesting.

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As some of you may know there is an native burial in south western big Valley.

Information on burial: Native Burial | Red Dead Wiki | Fandom

It has been found that if you light the native burial on fire it will cause a rain storm to start very quickly even if the weather is clear. The rain will extinguish the fire very quickly.

Burial on fire:This Happens when you Desecrate Native Burial Grounds RDR2 - YouTube

Burial on fire then quickly extinguished by rain storm:

https://youtu.be/FpiLSGhal_A?si=i98RvaOnrn71AQTL

It has also been found that if you light the fire and right after run away from the burial to the road and across the creek and up the hillside there is an obelisk to run towards. If you make it to the obelisk before the rain storm runs out you will lock in an infinite thunderstorm.

Also note the obelisk has a phrase written on a plaque that was added 1 year after launch when the PC version was added in. It is in Latin but it reads (the hour flees,don't be late)

I started to speculate and wondered what this could be referencing?

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I thought maybe fort Riggs could be related as in order to get the storm going you have to use the native burial and a major indigenous area nearby is Fort Riggs. So naturally started investigating.

After activating it, A few areas will clear this thunderstorm(The native burial, gangs camp, beechers hope)

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I started testing this storm out by activating it and then traveling to Fort Riggs. It takes just over an hour( in game time) to get to fort Riggs after activating the storm

My first testing process was this with the storm staying on chapter 6 arthur.

https://youtu.be/LMtxrDJ3cwI?si=nhMkX3C9uB0rwWpX

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Head to the native burial,

Kill a couple nearby deer or wolfs

Put in middle of native burial

Light animals carcasses on fire

Hop on horse and run up the hillside to the obelisk

Wait till storm locks in at obelisk and boom permanent thunderstorm

Head over to fort riggs

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At first I was testing this post game with John and my 100% file and all was good with the storm staying and it continuing to storm in Fort Riggs when arriving.

As with all testing, I always test on multiple files and with Arthur as well as John throughout different chapters and parts of the game to make sure it's a legitimate mystery and not a glitch.

It was only once I switched and went to Arthur( early game ch2) and tested the same method that I found that after activating the storm and getting to fort Riggs the storm will actually immediately clear like the gang’s camp, native burial and beecher's hope. I started wondering why it stayed with John at 100% but didn't with early game Arthur.

Arthur storm lifting: https://youtu.be/SropwM3CUc8?si=dKSDNRLiWGi1WgUk

John storm staying: https://youtu.be/Ct5CuzeDzMg?si=Nd_MgdpNOMEGxMws

This was the first time discovering this so I went and tried to figure out why it stayed with John.

I tested a ch 6 Arthur but with very little items and it didn't stay

I tested a ch 4 Arthur and it did stay..

My next idea is to find out why it was staying on specific Arthur playthroughs but not on others and with post game john

It doesn't seem to be character specific or even chapter specific as well as I had ch 6 Arthur where it didn't stay.

So that led me to believe it was potentially having either specific items or missions completed.

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There seems to be a few factors to what is allowing it to stay with John but not on specific Arthur playthroughs.

The biggest factor appears to be having discovered the two ufo’s at hani’s bethel and at the summit of mount Shann.

Other items that might be in play are having the two meteorites in your satchel and possibly the shrunken head from Lakay.

Still exploring these possibilities but haven't been able to keep the storm going with Arthur without these 4 factors. Have tested this with a fresh chapter 2 arthur, a chapter 4 and 6 arthur and two post game files with a regular epilogue john and a 100% completed file as well.

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So the biggest question is why does it sometimes clear with specific conditions and other times the storm will stay indefinably at other times?

I'm still looking into this and what causes it but have found it very interesting with all the items and connections to other indigenous items and southern big valley. Anyone would would like to help please reach out

I am slowly working on this and will have more posts to come beyond this first one relating to southern Big Valley, the native burial, the infinite thunderstorm and Fort Riggs.

Thanks for reading!

I think that the pagan ritual site has been misinterpreted this entire time.

It is a vodun ritual. You can see the veves on the alter. Demballah and Ayida Wedo (I believe, could be another veve, I'm not 100%) are on the actual rock alter. And then the design on the ground is Papa Legbas veve.

In vodun rituals you have to petition to Papa Legba and he gets to decide if your petition is worth passing on to the other Iwa. That's why Legbas veve is there.

Demballah is described as: "Damballah is among the most beloved and important lwa. He bestows wealth, prosperity, good health, and fertility to devotees and can expose the location of missing treasure. He regulates moisture and rain."

Ayida Wedo's veve is present at the ritual site because she is Demballahs wife.

So, that's interesting. Especially since it seems to always start storming if you sit there for too long.

But also, I have found nothing in the vodun religion that would make the corpse make sense. They, for the most part, do not sacrifice like that. And the very small branches that do deal with the dead, do not do it like it is presented at the pagan ritual site.

But you know what would make sense for the location and time period it is found? Religious extremists murdering whoever created that alter and impaling their corpse in the center of it as a warning, Vlad Tempest style.

I don't think that the corpse was a part of the ceremony. I think that corpse was put there after all of that was already created and used.

Also, "He is a stickler for cleanliness. He doesn’t like strong, pervasive odors of any kind, but especially tobacco. If you smoke, then do so far from his altar space or anywhere associated with him"

^ could someone try to smoke a cigarette near the alter, just for the sake of science? I don't believe it will do anything but it's interesting. I lost my copy a while back and haven't had much time to play anyway. I would appreciate it!

The Strange man had a perfect opportunity to speak to Arthur at his cabin but he watched him instead. Why?

So, I might have a dumb question about it

Can't it just be a nod to achievement hunter since one of their on screen personalities Jack Patillo was also voicing a character there?

And Gavin Free was also a member of this group of content creators.

I mean it could just be a coincidence and again just a dumb question or theory I have about that.

No matter what you say about things not beeing in code and squirrels and on and on, I will still keep hunting for the 3rd meteorite.

The lead about moonstone pond and the lead from the support about this lake with green water is probably true. With that said its not there for anyone to be found. I dont think it landed in the pond itself, rather like many others I think it hit behind the house makeing the tree fall and destroy the Flattend cabin.

The mystery about the gypsies talking about their daughter fishing up a strange rock from the pond is interesting. Ive tried talking to all the gypsy npcs around the game but found nothing. One thing is interesting though regarding the news article about meteor showers. Are there any know instance talking about meteor showers outside of van horn/Annesburg? Could you watch a meteor shower anywhere else? I dont think so. I think that if you could find the meteor or the squirrel carrying it, it must be around this area. Are there any leads here? I read in a thread about someone triggering an event in van horn and then getting close to a meteor that they couldnt pick up. Does anyone know how to trigger this event?

Just found the blind man as John and he said: „Go to where there‘s sand and palm tress. Find the black flower and you will be rewarded.“ Does anyone know what he refers to?

So a little time ago I found three Skeletons of apparently nuns(?) somewhere in New Austin totally random in a ditch far off the road. I don‘t remember the exact Location, just that you don‘t see them from afar because they are in this ditch, and there‘s just plains all around. They wore white/blue clothes, kind of like Mother Teresa. Does anyone know some background to this or did find them too? I don‘t remember looting anything particular from them and sadly forgot to mark the location, it could be in west elizabeth, too. I‘m asking because i never heard or saw anything about them posted online.

In the cutting room floor, on miscellaneous it says that there were voice lines for Abigail voice acted by the rdr1 actress (Sophia) instead of cali and they are still in the game files.

I've been scouring all over the internet and for the life of me can't find these. Does anyone have them?

Hello, I'm new here, it's the first time I've used Reddit, and the first time I've written a text in English, so I hope it's at least understandable. I was watching some videos about the Stranger, and I noticed that he has many similarities with the Devil, at least the biblical one.

So, getting into the subject, Strange Man appears testing people's morals, as in the mission "I know you" from RDR, and that alone makes a great parallel with the biblical devil, especially with the one from the Old Testament, and I mention the OT (Old Testament) because the perception of the Devil's role changed a lot between the two testaments. Well, “changed” is not the best choice of words, because in both testaments the role of the Devil is to test people, that is what he does with Eve (Genesis 3:1-6), Job (The Entire Book of Job refers to Job's test) and Jesus himself (Matthew 4:1-11, Matthew 16:21-23). But what changes in the NT (New Testament) is the Devil being saw more like a enemy than a tester, that's because (I'n my view at least, a preacher would give a better answer) since the sins are already forgiven for those who believe in Jesus, there's no need to a tester, that's why says that the darkness are defeated (John 1:5).

After all that explanation (Probably unnecessary), Strange Man appears to non-religious people, John Marston, Hebert Moon and Arthur Morgan (Considering that Jimmy Brooks is a test from the Strange Man), which makes sense theologically speaking. Analyzing each case mentioned before:

-John Marston: John Marston meet with the Strange Man in the mission "I know you", and all this mission is a moral test, but I'll focus on the interaction between John and the Strange Man. Starting with the first meeting, the Man greets John calling by his name (In the Jewish culture the name is a powerfull thing, that's the reason why the third commandment exist) and mentions Heíde McCort's, showing to know about John's past (It's common to think the Devil using the sins of the past of someone to make her fell guilty). The last enconter on Peecher's Hope, John shots the Strange, even you make the high honor choice in the mission, failing the test and dooming him, his wife and Uncle (The three shots that he does). Other fact about the last encounter is that the Man don't tell his name (What makes sense since you can control a demom with you know his name, even the bible mentions that in Mark 5:1-13, when to exorcise the demons Jesus ask his name).

-Hebert Moon: Considering that Hebert have some relation with the Armadillo plague, and the fact that he has a portrait of Strange Man, and the phrares in the swamp hunt that refers to Hebert, the phrase in the wall "The moon will shine in the darknes" refering to the fact tha Hebert is not affected by the plague and ", and the one in the Armadillo's map "I offered you happines or two generations, you made your choice" that probably refers to a pact that the Strange Man made with Moon (since Hebert in RDR seems pretty unhappy, and the letter that you find on his corpse in RDR2, that says about his daugther marrying, Hebert chose two generations).

-Arthur Morgan: Considering that the encounter with Jimmy Brooks is a test (Since is mentioned in a poem in the swamp hut), Strange Man doesn't appear in his usual form to Arthur in any circustance, probably because Arthur was "less lost" than John in RDR. Morgan was trying to stop killing people and wanted to help the Van der Linde gang members to chance their lifes, and you can also consider the encounter with Swanson in the mission "The fine art of conversation" and the talk with Sister Calderón a sign of Arthur getting closer to God. In the other hand, John was going back to his life of murder getting away of his peaceful life in Peecher's Hope.

I can't be the first to point this out, but I think the creator of the mutant is L. Hobbs who appears in the "A better world, a new friend." side quest since she is the only person we know of who is versed in taxidermy and has admitted to doing that hobby on human corpses.

What appeared to be 3 deputy/bounty hunters (like the ones that would chase Arthur), but Online?

I had a very unique experience in online and I had it recorded but can't find it now (too much footage)

I saw 3 were standing still on horses, with one having someone tied by on his horse and when I approached them, 2 went into 1 direction and 1 horseman began to ride away full speed into the mountains with a tied up someone. It was not a player. It was near Wapiti and slightly SW of that.

To this day I never had it repeat in Online. Back then I had a free horse, and I could not follow him for long.

I was dumbfounded, as it looked so realistic, like I walked into a conversation I wasn't supposed to hear, and they parted ways. All 3 had beige coats and yet, it was not storymode.

Did I stumble on some special trigger Easter Egg event?

Thag was like a year and a half ago when I started to play Online

I don't know if the pentagram is a mystery material, but I just wanted to share this with you too! (Sorry if I used wrong flair)

I saw a small wooden structure on the side of a mountain and when I went up to investigate I discovered there was a dead guy hanging from a noose looking out over the mountain. I then promptly fell off the mountain while trying to get a better look and died. Has anyone else seen this?

So, the morning after I saw him eaten by a giant catfish I found his corpse on the roadside to the south-east of Tumbleweed. A cougar had mauled him.

Is this a glitch particular to my (second) playthrough or has anyone else encountered this?

So, i’m testing a theory on the sundial connected to loading screen. As I went on I realized, maybe someone already pinpointed all pictures to a map. Searched a bit but all I could find was the theory about coordinates on the pictures.

Does anyone know if someone has done a map where all pictures are located?

Otherwise this will be a long quest for me, but someone has to do it, there might be a clue in the pattern. Although this is gona take ages to complete.

I will in that case map around 223 pictures, will not so the ones for multiplayer since they should not be a part of it if it’s an story mystery.

Wish me luck!