The "ptolemaic model" on the yellow mural sent me down a "radial velocity curve" rabbithole which lead to nothing but I did find the same image from the mural on accident which is cool but is probably meant to be the lighthouse like previously found

https://imgur.com/gallery/stuff-xSGfTXS

Most of the posts on here say that the red panel's dots are not Braille. I don't know why. The very first combination of dots spells out the word Time.

I spent the past hour or so putting different combinations of the dots into this braille translator. Here's some results I've come up with (The most interesting one being "Time but like from behind"):

Results with dots as they appear on the mural normally:

⠐⠞ ⠻ ⠃ ⠙ ⠆ ⠂

time er but do be ,

⠐⠞ ⠃ ⠇ ⠋ ⠆ ⠓

time but like from be have

⠐⠞ ⠃ ⠇ ⠋ ⠆⠓

time but like from behind

⠐⠞⠃⠇⠋⠆⠓

timeblfbbh

⠐⠞ ⠃ ⠟ ⠙ ⠓

time but quite do have

Results with the image flipped upside down (Mostly gibberish):

⠚⠞⠷⠚⠖

Jtofj!

⠚ ⠞ ⠷ ⠚ ⠖

just that of just !

⠐⠳ ⠾ ⠓ ⠳ ⠂

ought with have out ,

⠐⠳⠾⠓⠳⠂

oughtwithhou,

I don't know enough knowledge about the ins and outs of GTA5 - I haven't played it in a few years, but I watched a video recently about where the Chiliad Mystery stands and noticed the dots. There's no way they're anything other than Braille. Maybe someone can try some other versions / flipping the image other ways / etc and come up with something.

But in the meantime, does "Time but like from behind" have anything to do with the story?

When you tip the bathroom attendant $577 you get the robes but when using the alphabet with 577 it spells out "egg". Probably useless but haven't seen anyone bring up why it's $577 on the nose

Hi all, i was running around the desert looking for more hidden stuff that DrunkDev once mentioned, when all of a sudden i saw THE EYE and the BIGFOOT.

You probably think i am overreacting and you will not believe me, but luckily i was able to take a picture.

The EYE is looking directly at the Thompson Scrapyard, so yes, i went there because :

1-next to the EYE, we can clearly see a BIGFOOT looking directly at Mount Chiliad.

2-The Thompson Scrapyard is the place where we fight the Beast, so there is actually zero probability of coincidence...

Upon the entrance, my mind just exploded.

The 1st EGG is telling me that there is more stuff hidden in this location, that's the right path, so the 2nd EGG is nothing but a confirmation.

Yes, the 2nd plane is even cracked, that's not a theory anymore, you can actually see it yourself when you go there in-game.

Come closer, thers is a basic frame for our jetpack and the fuel tank already attached to it, so at this point we know that the Jerry Can has it purpose in our journey, most likely 1000 droplets will be necessary [1000 - CHILIAD in Latin]

If these evidences are still not enough for you, i am proudly giving you the final proof.

It literally screams - FLY US. Those innocent looking metal parts want US to FLY them, there is no way that Rockstar Games would waste their valuable time to add an entire scrapyard and those models, when there is no purpose to use them, better yet, they carefully left them in this place,right below the EYE and BIGFOOT because they predict that one day we will find them, please stay open-minded and do not let unsavables push us off the way to find the right triggers. I am going to try the basics like 3 am rain, honking with a SpaceDocker etc.

Left your observation, tests and ideas in this topic but keep it civil. We are almost there!

!Mods, please show some sense of humour and treat it like an example of HOW TO NOT LET YOUR MIND GO NUTS.!<

Hey guys,

After exploring the map some more, i found our jetpack guy in a few places ! Now obviously it's something we can't see immediately because there are different things overlayed on top of each other but the top is definitely the guy we see on the map and the bottom is clearly bigfoot. Even the front leg is larger than the back one. The details are there for sure (even the outlines of the box).

I found that same scene on Chiliad with much more details. We can see that the "backpack" is exactly the same shape as the one we have on the mural, again, every detail is there. What's interesting is that inside, there's an alien... That would explain why the jetpack box is connected to the UFO box on the mural.

What do you think ?

Hey guys,

As you can see, there's quite a bunch of eggs on chiliad. Do each one contain some clue towards the mystery ? I didn't investigate yet but i wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

What do you think ?

I made a video that sheds light on the behind-the-scenes of finding the sound featured in one of the four symbols added last year in the San Andreas Mercenaries update, and offers possible interpretations of it:

https://youtu.be/ru6A0PG0wys

In the "2024 summer update" chapter of the video, there is also information about the upcoming abduction stage of the UFO Sightseeing event. Something notable for mystery hunters, that I haven't seen being discussed, is that this year we will be able to hear a new announcer voice being broadcast in the underground facility. This announcer's "lines" (which you can download here) sound similar to those that can be heard in the DDH facility, only that they are unintelligible and contain strange irregular repetitions that always tend to stabilize to something similar to "bee-dee-bee-dee...". Would be helpful if a good English speaker tried to transcribe the repeated sounds and count the numbers of repetitions (not easy; tempo reduction is a must), as I couldn't really tell e.g. if something should be rather written as "oh"/"all"/etc.

Peace to y'all ✌️

I have recently noticed that the data of Online mission "Last Dose 4 - Checking In" contains 7 alien eggs.

Here is the JSON of the job: http://prod.cloud.rockstargames.com/ugc/gta5mission/2989/JaEjwCvkYk6hHbbdOriLdg/0_0_en.json

Here is where the hash of "prop_alien_egg_01" (1803116220) is used:

"model":[294396006,294396006,294396006,294396006,70830994,70830994,1803116220,1803116220,1803116220,1803116220,1803116220,1803116220,1803116220]

Here is how they would look when positioned (spawned by me in single player): https://imgur.com/a/9SQx07p

As you can see, the first one is located close to the one that appears in the Last Dose artwork, which to my knowledge was never found in-game and was generally assumed to be a small EE/troll from R*.

Looking for other hashes of interest, I also found the crashed UFO prop being used in "First Dose 4 - Uncontrolled Substance":

• JSON: http://prod.cloud.rockstargames.com/ugc/gta5mission/3574/M-CfO_GWqkO441WMwcCE7A/0_0_en.json
• "gr_prop_damship_01a" hash: "model":[..., -320283514, ...]
• placement simulation: https://imgur.com/a/XnTyRSw

I haven't seen any of these props in my tests, playing alone. If you did, please let me know.

If you do any testing of First Dose 4 especially with more players, maybe consider also taking a look at the destination marker that I posted about last year, as it is still there and might play a role too.

Code analysis is yet to be conducted.

Cheers!

I was playing a game the other day when I saw a drawing on a table that looked similar to the eyes seen around the mountain (I can’t add an image) if anyone wants to verify the game is called waltz of the wizard on vr (I don’t know for sure because the game added this somewhat recently)

I haven’t seen anyone talking about this, but TikToker @GatorKeys just showed the Halloween ufo abduction from the game files and said you can explore it. You can activate it by getting abducted by a UFO on October 31st this year. After the abduction, you wake up in the experiment room (like last year) and can walk through four different rooms:

•	Experiment Room
•	Examining Room containing an alien egg
•	Storage Room full of crates
•	Research Room with blueprints for the San Andreas jetpack and the Oppressor Mk II

On October 31st, when you’re abducted by UFOs, there’s a 50/50 chance you’ll wake up in the lab. You’ll also find a crowbar in the experiment room (same as last year) on a storage box. You’re supposed to use it on a crate in the storage room, which gives you a weapon called The Shocker.

When you’re ready to leave, you’ll see four symbols on a wall, each with a lever beneath it. Press them in the wrong order, and a gas is released that knocks you out, sending you somewhere near Fort Zancudo.

This confirms that the secret bunker is the lab, and that the FIB created the UFOs, futuristic weapons, and vehicles. In the storage room, there’s also the eye symbol from the Mount Chiliad mural. GatorKeys thinks this means the FIB is the “all-seeing eye,” controlling everything behind the scenes. Could this be the Day that reveals it all?

so, related to the "alien egg supply run" can it be repeated after completion? what if I do another 600 missions, will it appear again? I already completed it and I wanted to show some friends, I wanna know if it's possible to repeat it, in the same character. thanks to anyone who might know the answer!!!

Hello, I just wanted to ask you guys that when(if) GTA VI releases, will this sub be still active?? Is there a new subreddit for GTA VI myths or this sub will be the "main" one? Or is this sub only for chiliad?

Please share 100% completion save file for PC. With all missions completed and alive Ursula (I've found one save file before, but the person who played the game didn't complete Waste Management side mission). I wanna check something. Also I will be glad to know some imformation about the file: people who were sacrificed to altruists and so on. Thanks in advance. P.S. I will delete this post after receiving the file.

Knowing that you need to complete a mission 600 times (!!!) to get the alien egg easter egg, and that chiliad means 1000, what if there was a mission or trigger that needs to be activated a thousand times to solve this? Not asking for anyone to loose their time on this, it's just a simple idea I wanted to share.

Hello mysteryhunters,A few hours ago, a DarkViperAU clip was released, which has a very interesting detail.
Video
Screenshot from his video

We all knew that the main characters of the game have different suns, but it turns out that in director mode other characters also have different suns, such as Tracy.

Could this be a connection to the mystery? Someone tried to trigger a lunar eclipse by playing for other characters in the director mode?

If Chiliad and ikz go unsolved by the time gta6 comes out, are you going to bother with whatever mystery they put in that game? Or will have Rockstar have lost their credit as an Easter egg company? I personally think it would be almost rather offensive if they had is trying to juggle 3 different unsolved mysteries, of which gta5 and 6 may be connected, and it's already questionable if rdr2 is connected (Francis Sinclair) even tho rockstar vehemently insists it's not. What do you think? Think they'll take it easy on us, give us hints, or just lose faith in over 3/4 the people in this subreddit by making us go look for headlight fluid?

Just came to mind with the GTA Online Halloween weekly updates and the UFO's popping back up. The shirt that unlocks with the doomsday murals symbols and the numbers to text translating to "One day will reveal all"... What if the message literally means one day of the week or month will reveal clues or something? Being that the days on the week mattered for the bigfoot hunt.

What would happen if we joined all the things convayed by the mural , literally and metamorphically? I may have a answer.

1. All seeing eye- It literally means some sort of connection to God. But metamorphically, it shows the developers and the beta development or ideas behind the scenes for DLC's.
2. The mountain- Literally Mt Chilliad but metamorphically the whole game as one.
3. The X's- Literally it has the locations for symbols for activating the My Chilliad UFO but metamorphically I think all the details , features ,the story,etc present in the game.
4. The UFO- Literally maybe the underwater UFO but metamorphically the journey of Micheal to be discovered(His story mode DLC).
5. The Egg- Literally an egg of aliens but metamorphically journey of Franklin and his journey to be discovered with the alien invasion predicted by Epsilon or Altruist cult.
6. Jetpack- Literally reward for playing the game as intended but metamorphically Trevor's journey to be discovered ( maybe the government's response to the alien or zombie invasion).
7. The path- Literally the path to Almighty (Epsilon version) but metamorphically the time duration.

I think My Chilliad mystery could only be solved using cancelled single player DLC.

Greetings hunters, excuse the spelling mistakes, it is not my main language, hare what I can.

After several weeks of playing, finishing the game for the eighth time, I realized that there is something in the characters' skills, also in the filters that are activated when using them, my question is, did you notice when using the skills? something? I would like to read your references to this since I feel that the abilities have not been deciphered and that there is an end to the mystery,

kiflon.

What are people’s thoughts in u/LlamaGuy69 ‘s Golden Path theory ? Iv been messing around with a Golden Playthrough and I’m pretty convinced it’s at least a thematic thing to let the player know they are playing the game as intended, like in terms of what makes the most sense for the story and the characters -

Experiences ? Thoughts ? What are some reasons this has been debunked ?

Hi Fellow Hunters!

I seem to have stumbled across a new? visual distortion field above Fort Zancudo: https://imgur.com/a/QtRkOup, you have to be at almost the exact height in the screenshot to see it.

I’m on a 100% save and can see the Zancudo UFO if I go slightly northeast from this visual distortion. I think it’s the same screen effect that you would see if you visit the Hippie Camp UFO before 100%.

Could this be a new UFO location that requires a trigger for the UFO to spawn in? Or is this a leftover from cut content or something else that’s already known? It seems to be at a similar height as the Zancudo UFO but it’s closer to the marsh.

Just curious.

I get everyone likes to be crazy and we all think this mystery hasn't been solved yet but what if it is??

Clifffords symbol is of an eye and apparently the entire "doomsday" stuff was supposed to be brought on by this all powerful machine that could launch a warhead that could've possibly killed millions and caused the world to end - the mural shows an eye symbol at the very top, lightning bolts around all sides to either hint towards the weather or some "all powerful" being - the bunker itself is inside chiliad and on the mural towards the left theres a line that leads to the exterior of the moutain

What if the doomsday heist was foreshadowed by this and each of these X's and lines are rooms and hallways? I mean.. theres the jetpack which he uses to escape, the giant eye which is almost identical to cliffords logo aside from it missing the signiture triangle in the middle and some interactions or involvements with cliffords "deactivated soldiers/juggernauts" have had some alien tech nearby no?

Plus we don't even actually know whats INSIDE the very top of mount chiliad where the mural is, I mean sure people have no clipped inside but like almost every place theres not gonna be any pre-loaded interior unless it's tied to a mission so... What if this is all connected or already "proved" with the release of the doomsday heist?

Im sure most here know there is alternate dialogue in many missions after failing a mission. Mostly just 2nd takes with slight variations but occasionally its quite different. A few years ago when I was playing I was doing the mission "did somebody say yoga" and noticed something I had not known before. Once Jimmy gets the drugs from the friendly neighborhood drug dealer and you drive away everyone hears the dialogue that starts with Michael saying "Alrighty then now what?" and ends with Jimmy saying "You're too crazy dad bye" before the Alien cut scene starts. This is what I assume 99% of people hear as thats how the mission works but if you leave the parking lot of the burger shot to start the dialogue and then go right back into it and park the mission cant end. So Michael drinks the drink and gets fucked up and the dialogue plays as normal but it keeps going as the mission cant end in the parking lot. Michael sits there stoned babbling about things like the steering wheel is as big as a farris wheel and how everything looks like its in 2D. There was another thing or 2 he says that you wont hear if you play it regularly. Anyway Im doing my first playthrough in years and got to that mission and did it again and sure enough there is an extra minute or two of dialogue that wont normally play. I checked a few videos on YT to be sure I was not mistaken but everyone had the standard lines in them. Nothing new was said that I can say is related to the CM but it got me to thinking if there are any other missions like this one where if you dont let it end more might be said. Im not talking about slowing down to let the dialogue finish before reaching the yellow markers like we all probably do but playing it "wrong" to force more talking. So can anyone think of another mission where there is a chance of extended talking?

when you first get introduced to Dax he asked real subtly “Do you know about the eggs on Mount chiliad?" .

it probably won't lead anywhere but what if you take the egg to the top of Mount Chiliad from the The 600 resupply missio

Thief

I was watching the movie "Thief", an old James Caan movie. In it they break into a Los Angeles bank through the top of an elevator shaft.

I remembered that "Thief" graffiti can be found in various places around the map.

I looked at the top of some of the buildings in LS but nothing stood out, and the only elevators in buildings I think I've noticed is at the Arcadius building and the Zancudo bunker.

Just thought I'd pop it on here in case it gave somebody an idea.

I asked Chat GPT to help me, particularly with the tab that seems to be showing an email right about to be sent. Perhaps someone has found the original image files that are not so blurry?

PC Monitor pics:

https://i.imgur.com/Mi4JTd6.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/wXlSv5m.jpeg

Chat GPT Response:

https://i.imgur.com/bt6FbH8.jpeg

Not sure if anyone else here will, but I find this interesting. Here’s an example of something to be seen utilising location, perspective and timing yada yada.

https://imgur.com/a/WgQtGmV

Hey guys. Happy eleventh anniversary!

I've been very on-off on this mystery, but especially in these recent two years, I felt myself drawn back to the questions that this damn mural imposes on us. And I think I've genuinely found something new. Something that provides real, tangible proof that there is more to this game than it seems. And that, just maybe, we're all stupid overthinkers.

Since Rockstar doesn't really seem to give a shit, here's a gift from me: my conclusions after years of looking and testing.

1) The Zancudo UFO is snipable from Mount Josiah.

This seems partially known among our members, but from the top of Mount Josiah, you can aim up to the Zancudo UFO with a sniper and make it spawn.

This is actually a very old find. A community post was made in 2013 about this and there was a lot of discussion about it on the GTAForums.

The craziest part about this? It's INTENTIONALLY PROGRAMMED to be snipable from that exact spot.

Right next to 'They're Here!' from the UV Map.

Right above this Volcano-UFO-Drawing that /u/snakecreed0 found. Depending on where you stand, the ZUFO is more or less fuzzied-out, but above this drawing specifically, it's solid. Insane.

'Ah, so They're Here was an instruction to discover the Zancudo UFO then!'

NO!

2) The Hippy Camp UFO deactivates the Bunker Lightshow...

It does. And it confuses me.

We all know that touching the Zancudo UFO disables it. But touch the Hippy Camp UFO, and...

This is extremely strange. It implies that, no, the Lightshow is NOT used to bring you up to the ZUFO. There's more to it that directly connects to at least one more UFO.

But some of us even knew that.

Let me show you something you don't know yet.

3) ... and the Zancudo UFO.

Touch any of the two UFOs and go back to Mount Josiah. Try and snipe the Zancudo UFO.

You won't be able to. It's gone.

BUT!

YOU CAN STILL VISIT IT!

IT'S JUST NOT SNIPABLE FROM THAT EXACT SPOT ANYMORE!!

To my knowledge, I'm the first hunter to ever notice this specific interaction. Like the Bunker Lightshow, the snipability refreshes after reloading the save, implying to me that touching the UFOs is something that should not be done.

It also seems to imply that looking at things through a sniper is important. And that's not all.

I've found another thread that hints at this.

4) The Chiliad UFO CANNOT be a hologram.

Because it has a shadow.

I'm no physicist, but I'm pretty sure shadows are an obstruction of light and cannot originate from a light source itself.

Stay at the Chiliad Platform and wait until sun rises. You'll see that the shadow proceeds over Chiliad's east side until it ends at this hill by EXACTLY 6PM.

This got me thinking. There's nearly zero difference between the Chiliad UFO and the Hippy Camp UFO. Their FIB-logos are even broken in the exact same ways, perhaps indicating that they're the same entity. You cannot hit the Chiliad UFO because it simply chooses to be intangible. Like a player glitching through the city - it's not like they stop existing, their properties just momentarily change.

So. By triggering the Chiliad UFO and watching its shadow (interacting with it), we gain new information.

And there is more information to be garnered here through interaction. Something that helps my thesis.

5) The Chiliad UFO's tractor beam points down at...

... PENRIS.

(Another version here with Clear Weather for the sake of visibility.)

Do you spot something interesting from this angle?

In case you don't know what to look for, there's a tower pointing exactly at the middle of the PENRIS Eye.

This can only be spotted through a sniper, too. Only a sniper (or camera) activates the tractor beam.

But I get it. You're still skeptical. Let me show you something I think I properly solved.

6) ... exactly the same thing as the Hippy Camp UFO.

PENRIS.

When you're at the Hippy Camp, you may have noticed this weird star-circle. Some of you may already make a connection right now, so let's break it down:

The middle of the Hippy Camp UFO...

... is EXACTLY above this star-circle. It even swooshes over it with its tractor beam.

Okay, but that's not all. There's another place with circles, stars and blue-red-yellow.

The Range.

Similar depiction, same order of colors even... and hey, it's got an Eye there as well!

Now - what does this remind us of?

7) The solution of Blue-Red-Yellow...

... is spelled out by a path that is lit.

You've been here before. Can you see it? Yellow lantern - red pyramid light - blue eye light.

If I were to guess, 'Shoot for the Stars' seems to fit into this. How? I'm not sure yet.

So what? Where does this lead us?

Well, both PENRIS and the Zancudo UFO keep being hinted at, so they seem definitive parts of 'the solution'. Maybe one is the beginning and one is the end. I haven't had luck trying anything with them yet, regardless of weather and time.

(And personally, I find it very scary to try anything. This game can be so creepy.)

However, what I just showed you was me following leads that could have been discovered DAY ONE. By simply following what is obvious to the eyes, the game actually leads you to specific points of interest. It makes its intentions known via perspective, colors and interactions.

This begs some questions. For example, where does the Chiliad UFO shadow go? To Mount Gordo? Possible, but as far as I can see, it literally breaks away at 6PM. It'd reach Gordo way later. Remember Eclipse Yoga? Maybe it is still involved at a certain time. I'm clueless at the moment. Please look it up in your game and give me your thoughts.

Extra) This isn't the first time we've been led on an Easter Egg hunt.

Does anyone remember Vice City Stories? Check out the first nine minutes of this.

This was always crazy to me. The hunt even includes messages you have to glitch the player into inaccesible sections of the game for, like under a boat so that the camera can enter it.

My point with this: Rockstar isn't stupid. They're the architects of the world. They know what can be broken in which ways. They know about the broken FIB logos and they choose to leave it untouched.

Want more proof that they do things intentionally?

Extra 2) Remember: this world is made through human hands.

Look at this post of /u/retsae_gge dissecting the Glyphs' lines of sight. You can find the mural like this.

Look at this ancient post of /u/I_Photoshop_Movies highlighting a secret circle that connects the CUFO, ZUFO, HCUFO and Observatory plus some extras. This is ONLY possible through extremely specific alignment and was begging to be found by someone eventually (people were crazy invested in 2013).

Anyone claiming that these alignments, plus what I just showed you, is all coincidence, is insane to me. The odds of this all lining up by pure chance is borderline impossible.

And I believe there's even more going on. I still don't know the purpose of the Lightshow, or Ursula, or why lightning only moves horizontally along a perfect schedule. Maybe we really do need to take the game, unlearn everything that we know about it (as Epsilon tells us to do) and look at it from a different, crazier, more imaginative angle to discover what Rockstar is trying to tell us.

I'll stick to this:

I believe there is still a mystery to be solved here and Rockstar loves to see us play.

The alternative to this is:

There was never anything deeper to this and Rockstar knows we'd tear each other apart.

The question you need to ask yourself is not whether you believe you can obtain the Alien Egg or enter the Bunker Elevator or not, but whether you think that the developers of Grand Theft Auto V love or hate their game, love or hate their die-hard community.

I can't force you to think either. You either have faith or you don't. But maybe this helps those that do.

Happy eleventh!

Hey everyone, I've been playing around with the hangout mechanic in GTA V and noticed something really odd. Whenever you're hanging out with Franklin and Lamar the highest wanted level you can get is two stars before getting spooked. But when you're hanging out with Trevor, Franklin, and Lamar or just Trevor and Lamar. Trevor being part of the group allows the wanted level to reach five stars, the maximum level!

This got me thinking... it's almost like the game is nudging you to utilize Trevor and Lamar for something specific. It feels like there could be a deeper connection here.

It makes me wonder if pairing certain characters together triggers something else hidden