Does anyone else yell at the TV when you see starving people let an animal go because they don’t want to kill it? I’ve seen this happen on several episodes with tortoises, turtles, snakes, etc.

At the time I wasn't sure how good of a survivalist Dani was manipulating for the knives etc.

But im watching all stars with Dani and Fernando. Holy shit she is useless sitting weaving baskets, not getting firewood or water. Her only contribution was making a wood carrying device that didn't work.

I feel like I'm losing my mind what does she do?

We know Ky will be returning and she’s proven time and time again that she has what it takes to not only survive but really thrive in pretty much any environment. Laura is an obvious choice because she’s just an amazing OG, but she has that new mentor season coming out so we won’t be seeing her in LOS. I personally would LOVE to see Gabby take on this season. She hasn’t skills and the mental strength and I could see her dominating in a competitive situation. The Kiwi Twins are always good, they bring a lot to the table and can hang with the best of them. I don’t hear people talk about her much but another stand out female survivalist for me is Melissa Miller. She was amazing with chance and then for her to stay and join the XLs in their challenge when she was literally on her way out was pretty great too. She really was like “double it and give it ME” what do yall think? Which of our NAA women has the potential to go all the way? Who am I missing?

And others. The team savage have a warm dry shelter and instead of asking Jeff and Steven to join them through the storm they just Snicker at them??? JMO.. how is that behavior any better than Jeff's behavior?

Can't believe they reduced Fernando's PSR even though he completed the challenge! Yeah he ate the mushroom and got sick which was stupid but he caught the snake and the fish (which didn't help them in the end but still), helped his partner through a rough moment and just had a great mental approach the whole time. So many other episodes where people did way worse but still had their PSR increased. Love Fernando they totally slighted him!

Watching episode Himalayan hell with Hakim and the white girl. She discovers a dead bird in the water. They decide to process the bird and eat it. Left the bird whole and cooked it over an open flame!!! Burnt that little fucker to a crisp, and it didn’t look all the way done, black on the outside and red in the middle. They should have spatchcocked it or spilt in half and cooked the bird over some hot coals at a reasonable height. Flip and cook the other side. Nice golden brown color, season with some sand & you have yourself a much better 1st meal in 17 days

Episode: Nicaragua Nightmare

Welcome to another edition of the N&A Running Diary! Before we begin today’s episode, here are my weekly recommendations and observations:

The Agency (Paramount Plus) finished its season on a strong note. I still don’t think it was as good as The Day of the Jackal. I give it a solid B+ or A-.

Naked and Afraid: Spain just released its fourth episode of the season. The contestants are beginning to bore me. There’s four sets of two contestants. Two of them have already tapped, and the others are basically just dirt sitting. Not sure if I’ll finish the season.

For tonight’s episode, I’m going back to a classic. Or, at least, it’s a classic to me. You ready for this?

It’s Duct Tape Boy’s first episode! If you don’t know who Duct Tape Boy is, you’re in for a real treat. Let’s get to it!

–We first meet Amanda, a thirty-three-year-old, self-described loner from Texas. I’m from Texas. I’ll root for her.

–Amanda tells us that her two phobias are balloons and spiders. Guess which one she’s most likely to find in the Nicaraguan jungle?

–”I’m emotionless about meeting my partner,” Amanda says. We’ll revisit this comment at the end of the episode.

–”I like animals more than people because they’re easier to trust.” Amanda, who most certainly just broke up with her boyfriend (or girlfriend).

–Next we meet Joshua. The first thing to come out of Joshua’s mouth is “I’m going to make mother nature my bitch!”

–YES! I love the “mother nature is my bitch” crowd. They’re always great comedy.

–”I am the apex predator,’ Joshua says. We’ll also revisit this comment at the end of the episode.

–Joshua is twenty-seven-years-old and is a gunsmith from North Carolina.

–Joshua tells us he’s a stereotypical redneck. Don’t sell yourself short, Joshua.

–Joshua tells us that he’s addicted to nicotine and is going to use the next 21 days to kick his cigarette habit.

–Can you imagine trying to quit an addiction while a contestant on Naked and Afraid? What possible outcome could you have besides “That was a big mistake”?

–”No more, ever again (cigarettes),” Joshua says. I believe him. No way does he huff down a pack of Marlboros the second he’s back at the hotel.

–Naked time! Let’s see how awkward they are.

–As Amanda gets naked she tells us that she wants to overcome being “stepped on so many times” by other people in her life. What happened to this woman? She’s got stories, that’s for sure.

–Joshua enjoys being naked because that’s what rednecks do: they get naked.

–They meet. To say that Amanda is in better physical shape than Joshua is an understatement.

–I always love when the contestants meet. It’s so awkward. Maybe these two won’t be so weird when they begin their small talk.

–”How are you?” Amanda asks.

–”If I was any better I would be naked,” Joshua says, before giving her finger guns. God damn it, Joshua.

–Amanda laughs and back-and-forth banter ensues.

–Amanda thinks they’re going to work well together. She’s probably right. What could possibly go wrong?

–Amanda brought a machete. That’s always a good tool for chopping shit down.

–Joshua brought duct tape? Even the narrator is confused.

–Joshua, from now on known as Duct Tape Boy (DTB), says he can make them all sorts of different clothes.

–Amanda actually likes DTB. “He can make me a bikini,” she says.

–DTB are great serial killer initials.

–PSR time!

–PSR is determined by “a panel of survival experts and special forces.” Or, as I call them, interns.

–Joshua’s PSR is 6.1, and the narrator lets us know that his smoking habit significantly lowered his score.

–Well, I’m sure Amanda’s PSR is higher. She’s good at building shelters and she’s physically in great shape.

–Amanda’s PSR is 5.8.

–#$$)”^@%%@!! I hate you so much, Naked and Afraid.

–Day 1.

–Stock animal footage time!

–”Aggressively territorial” Spider and Howler Monkeys, deadly spiders, venomous snakes, and giant Caiman.

–Half-way around the world, curled up in a cave, Malorie awakens. “Did someone say Caiman?”

–DTB’s first use of his tool is to give the machete a bright handle so that they don’t lose it in the forest. Not a bad idea actually.

–Oh, no. Amanda’s machete is brand new. Rookie mistake. Always break in and sharpen your machete before going to the jungle!

–”I’m not a big cuddler,” Amanda says. She’s already nervous about sleeping arrangements.

–DTB makes a cup out of his duct tape. Also not a bad idea.

–They construct a seep well and are successful in gathering fresh water. Thriving!

–DTB decides to make Amanda some clothes to cover up. DTB is actually a decent guy.

–Nighttime.

–They were able to build a bed before it got too dark.

–However, it’s not built well, and Joshua continues to slide into Amanda.

–The bed collapses! No longer thriving.

–I’m beginning to think neither of these two know what the hell they’re doing.

–Day 2.

–Amanda is attempting to make a fire out of wet wood. Pretty sure that’s not happening. These early seasons are brutal because they don’t get a fire starter.

–They go back to the seep well and it’s almost full with water. Wow! Great job, guys.

–Joshua gives a “M’Lady” to Amanda when saying to her that she can have the first drink of water. He’s definitely a reddit mod.

–A Spider Monkey just urinated all over Amanda. Gross.

–Time to redesign the shelter.

–Joshua is making a blanket out of his duct tape. Duct tape 3, Nature 0.

–”I’m having withdrawal symptoms,” Duct Tape Boy tells us. Shocker.

–The shelter they built is incredibly sad. I’m not sure these two are going to make it. They look nervous.

–Day 3.

–Amanda tells us that she didn’t sleep much because Joshua didn’t respect her boundaries. To be fair, their shelter is about two feet wide. Maybe that’s part of the problem.

–”Everytime I accidentally bump your hand (while sleeping), you freak out,” Joshua says.

–Trouble in paradise!

–Why don’t they just widen their shelter?

–Foraging for fruit time.

–Joshua is suffering. Turns out being in terrible shape isn’t a recipe for survival success.

–He finds plantains and pineapples. Thriving!

–Joshua can’t carry all of the weight of the fruit back to camp because he’s just too exhausted to move. He decides to “cowboy up.”

–Duct Tape Boy decides he’s going to drink a bunch of water, which makes him sick immediately. Fun times.

–Joshua continues to get sick, and N&A continues to show him getting sick. Do we really need to see and hear this?

–Nighttime.

–The medics are called in because Joshua is vomiting blood. They give him a shot in the ass of some type of medicine that probably won’t help.

–It’s 12:17 a.m. and DTB is sleep walking. Lmao. That would suck. He is not doing well.

–Day 5.

–They dive right into a pineapple. Joshua is devouring it, which makes him immediately sick. Good god, man!

–The medics arrive again. They think his condition is worsened by the nicotine withdrawal. Who knew that would be a problem?!

–DTB tells us he cannot continue the challenge. I guess this is it for Duct Tape Boy.

–Duct Tape Boy is not an apex predator and he did not make nature his bitch.

–Amanda is not too happy about being left behind by Joshua. I guess she's not emotionally vacant after all.

–Nighttime.

–Amanda hears growling noises in the dark. What could it be?

–Day 6.

–Amanda’s skin has bites all over it. That must suck.

–Day 7.

–The pineapples are rotten. Amanda is not thriving and is now dirt sitting.

–Day 9.

–Amanda finds one almond while on a walk. She can’t crack the nut open. Fail.

–Day 10.

–Thunder in the distance. Things are getting real for Amanda.

–Amanda admits that she’s just “hanging on.” Time to end this charade.

–Day 13.

–The narrator tells us that Amanda is no longer attempting to find food. She’s just sitting there, staring off into the jungle.

–I think Amanda is going to make my Dirt Sitter Hall of Fame.

– Day 15.

–She’s going to make it to day 21, isn’t she. So annoying. She’s not doing anything.

–Day 16.

–Amanda is now laying down (on Duct Tape Boy’s blanket) with a thousand yard stare in her eyes. What is she doing? Just tap? I don’t understand these people. Anyone can sit there in misery for 21 days. What exactly do you think you’re accomplishing?

–Amanda looks like she’s in a solitary version of her own personal Lord of the Flies book.

-Amanda tells us that she won’t give up because “it’s a goal I really want to achieve.” What goal? Dirt sitting? She is pretty good at that.

–She finally cracks the almond open. That only took a week.

–She acts like she just discovered the cure for cancer.

–Day 21.

–Well, all she’s got to do is make it through to extraction. Congratulations, I guess.

–Lots of walking.

–It’s raining on Amanda. I don’t feel bad for her.

–Surprise. She made it. There’s the boat!

–”The person coming back from this challenge is more confident than the person that came in.” Why? What are you more confident about now? Your ability to suffer longer?

–Duct Tape Boy’s new PSR is 4.3.

–Amanda’s new PSR is now 6.3.

–Oh, ok, Naked and Afraid. My PSR for both of them is .08.

–In the epilogue interviews, Amanda is happy to be back with her puppies, and Joshua, who has grown one of those evil, twirling mustaches, is pissed off for tapping out. He says he’s stopped smoking but I don’t believe him.

–I don’t think we ever see Amanda on N&A again. Duct Tape Boy, however, appears on one of the XL seasons, and he’s even more of a disaster.

–Say what you want about DTB, but he is entertaining. Amanda? Not so much.

–That’s it for another edition of the N&A Running Diary. Time to go do something productive like sit on the floor for 21 days.

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Suzanne needs to quit acting like she's in charge.. Seth needs to get off his butt and work. What a😨😨 pair

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About 25 minutes in the three women are noodling for catfish in a small muddy pond. Alyssa comes up out of the water ... There are ripples like in wet clothing.. anybody know what that is? She definitely has something on

So it's one of the ones where the female partner tapes early on but the man he was a big guy I think he was like 6'5 or 6 foot 2 something like that and on day 18 or 19 he got tapped for cutting his I think it was his leg sorry that I can't give a better description

A couple weeks ago, i wanted to watch naked and afraid and i noticed that season 14 was gone. Like it literally went 12,13,15.

anyways, today, i checked again, and now season 12 disappeared too. Anyone else experiencing this? how can i fix it?

I know everyone is hyped about season 3 and who will be on the show. My thought is to make this the hardest one when it comes to challenges. No silly making a stick shaped to grab a rope in the water. I'm talking first challenge make friction fire. Let's weed out the ones that really don't have the skills. Let's face it there has been way too many people on the show that have no chance to win and just are filler for entertainment.

I would love to see EJ , Matt, Ky, be mentors and train new survivalists to prepare for the show

Episode Name: Hearts of Darkness

It’s time again for another N&A Running Diary!

How’s everyone holding up with this ridiculous cold hitting almost the entirety of the U.S.? I’m not leaving my apartment for the next two days. Stocked up on food. I’m just going to watch movies, play boardgames, and write.

A note: The new episode of Naked and Afraid: Spain is out now on HBO. I am enjoying the season. I think it’s a great off-season addition to the N&A universe. You guys should watch it.

I’m going back to season 3 this week, in hopes of some good drama.Let’s get to it!

–We’re in Cambodia for this challenge. I’d like to go to Cambodia one day.

–We first meet Carrie. She’s 25 years old and lives in Denver, Colorado.

–Our other contestant is Tom. He’s 40 years old and lives in Tucson, Arizona.

–Tom tells us that his camera “smells like B.O. and campfire.” Thanks, Tom.

–Tom’s motivation is his faith and his family.

–Carrie was in the marine corp and she’s also a part-time model. Will Carrie continue the trend of armed forces contestants sucking at N&A? Will her “part-time” modeling career help her light a fire in the rainforest? Let’s find out.

–Stock animal footage time! Dangerous snakes, spiders and 10-foot Siamese Crocodiles inhabit the jungle. Apparently these crocodiles have the strongest bite force in the world (of crocodiles or of every animal, the narrator does not say).

–Tom wants to “just get through it (the N&A challenge).” That’s how he measures success. Sounds like a dirt sitter.

–Carrie says she’ll survive because “she has no other option. I’m not tapping out.” Famous last words?

–Side note: The N&A: Spain show does not blur out nudity. I can’t tell you how quickly I stopped noticing it (nudity) while watching that show.. It’s so strange that we still have this hangup in our country. Why?

–They meet. Awkward greeting ensues.

–Tom brought a fire starter. Carrie brought a machete.

–It’s wild to watch these early seasons because they don’t get a pot.

–The narrator tells us that Carrie and Tom need to find a fresh water source and that they need to set up a basecamp for the night.

–In order to do this, they’ll need to hike several miles inland through snake infested jungle.

–PSR time!

–Tom receives a 6.6

–Carrie receives a 6.4

–There’s no real reason why Carrie’s PSR is lower, but the N&A producers can’t help themselves when it comes to gender politics.

–Day 1.

–Tom states in his first camera diary that he and Carrie will “make a team.” Not “make a good team.” lol

–Tom lets Carrie know that he’s a klutz. We’ll see if that comes into play later on.

–Carrie states in her first camera diary that she finds Tom “talkative, upbeat and happy,” but she doesn’t say it with any enthusiasm. She sounds slightly irritated by Tom’s personality. This should work out well.

–The walk through the jungle isn’t easy. Tom steps on numerous thorns; Carrie seems to have an easier time of it.

–The narrator tells us that King Cobras live in this jungle. I’d love to see one of those, but not up close and personal.

–They make it to a running stream, surrounded by rocks and with nearby bamboo. Looks like they’ve found the perfect location.

–The narrator reminds us that it gets cold at night. Sleeping on top of those rocks might not be a good idea.

–They begin to make their shelter. They’re already bickering over how to make the shelter. Fantastic.

–Tom tries to get the fire started. While he does this, he tells us that he loves his wife and that he’d never intentionally jeopardize their relationship. UGH. You’re not having an affair with Carrie, you moron.

–Nighttime.

–They got a fire going and they got some of their shelter finished. At least they’re off the ground.

–It’s 57 degrees at 2:41 a.m. They aren’t cuddling, and their fire is too far away from them to offer any warmth. Looks like Tom’s fear of women who aren’t his wife is already becoming an issue.

–Carrie tries to cuddle with him, although she doesn’t seem like she’s comfortable with it only because Tom isn’t comfortable with it.

–Why would you go on a show called NAKED & Afraid if you’re not comfortable around another naked person? Tom irritates me.

–Day 2.

–They begin working on the shelter. Carrie doesn’t seem to like Tom much. She’s basically not even talking to him.

–They’re going to use bamboo to boil their water. I want to try that sometime.

–During a camera diary entry, Carrie lets us know that she’s worried about staying warm at night. Tom agrees.

–The show skips over the next three days, and the narrator lets us know that our heroes are now seriously malnourished. That didn’t take long.

–Carrie thinks Tom is obsessed with collecting firewood. She thinks he needs to work on other projects. One of Tom’s issues is that he brings almost no survival skills to the challenge. Why does he have a higher PSR again?

–Day 6.

–Carrie thinks Tom wants to dirt sit through the challenge. That’s not what she’s about. She wants more of an experience.

–Tom tells Carrie that she can make a firewood run too if she wants. He says this without looking her in the eye. She’s also not looking at him as they talk. These two do not like one another. A fight is definitely coming!

–Carrie says she’s bored as hell. Lmao.

–And here comes their first argument: Surviving vs. Thriving.

–Carrie takes off by herself so that she can concentrate on finding food.

–She finds a lake!

–The narrator lets us know that this is where the crocodiles live. Watch out, Carrie!

–She finds clams in the lake. She’s excited.

–She returns with her clams and is excited to tell Tom that they finally have some food. She wants to make lunch.

–Tom asks if they have any small tinder to make a fire. What? She’s been hunting, you moron. Why didn’t you get more firewood? I can’t stand this guy.

–Tom states that he’s going to go get tinder. Thanks, Tom.

–They’re using their bamboo to steam the clams.

–Carrie wants to chat. She feels like Tom wants to make her feel bad for not cutting bamboo.

–Tom thought she was going to go get firewood. Carrie brings up the fact that she brought food, so he should man up.

–Now they’re arguing over who has done what and how much it's worth. Carrie thinks Tom has zero survival skills (she’s right).

–Tom offers up the option of going forward as a team or going through the challenge alone. What will Carrie decide to do?

–Day 6.

–They decide to talk it out. Tom still thinks they’re a team. Carrie says she’s not going anywhere.

–Day 9.

–Tom says he blocks out Carrie’s moods. He thinks her moods are causing her issues with her survival skills. Tom doesn’t mention that he has no idea what the fuck he’s doing.

–Day 11.

–Carrie tells us that she thinks Tom should never have come on the show. She thinks Tom is dragging her down.

–Not much is really happening right now, other than our heroes are not acting heroic.

Day 14.

–Tom’s carrying more firewood. He’s upset that Carrie didn’t help him. Good god, man, grow a pair already.

–Day 15.

–Carrie likens her experience with Tom to a breakup, where neither person will leave because they have a dog together, or your CDs are in the other person’s truck. Lmao. That sounds awful.

–Commercial time. A new Captain America movie is coming to a theater near you. Do you like superhero movies?

–Nighttime.

–They aren’t sleeping near one another. Carrie feels ill.

–Day 18.

–Tom wants to go down to “Clam Beach” for food. Carrie says that she’ll keep the fire going.

–Tom found seven clams, although one was dead. Six clams. Actually, one of Carrie’s clams was empty, so they only have five. Oh, wait. Nevermind. Another clam is empty. They’re down to four clams. Oh, no! There’s another dead clam. Now it’s only three clams.

–Carrie is upset. She’s hungry, exhausted, and she wishes that she’d gotten a partner who “was a man with skills.” Ouch. lol

–Day 21.

–Tom’s dirt sitting is almost over. Carrie seems to be in better spirits.

–Nevermind. Tom spilled all of the water. On extraction day.

–Carrie hates Tom. She says she’s dealt with men like Tom before. Men that think their incompetence is funny.

–Tom says he’s tired of Carrie’s “emotional rollercoaster.” Tom better watch out or Carrie’s going to shove a clam shell up his ass.

–Carrie is pissed off because she boiled all of the water the second time around, even though Tom was responsible for spilling it all the first time around.

–We should put these two in a steel cage match like they do in wrestling.

–The narrator, reviewing the contestants, tells us that Tom gets high marks for his skill in shelter building. Wait a second. Carrie built the shelter. Tom acknowledged earlier that he didn’t have skills in building a shelter. What’s going on here, N&A?

–Carrie’s “stubborn sense of independence” has caused issues, the narrator tells us. I don’t like where this is going when it comes to PSR time.

–Carrie takes off by herself. Tom walks around in circles calling out for her. He says that Carrie’s not a survivalist.

–He finally finds Carrie, who tells him that she’s pissed off.

–Carrie accuses Tom of being a dirt sitter.

–They’re now heading toward extraction, but they got a late start.

–The narrator lets us know that the helicopter to extract them cannot fly at night time. They also came out of the jungle a mile and a half below their extraction point. This means that they must take a more direct route along the shore of the lake, which is dangerous because of the crocodiles. Not good.

–Cue stock animal footage time. It’s a giant crocodile. Will it eat them? Please?

–They hear the helicopter! It looks like they’re saved from another night in the jungle.

–Tom is building a signal fire, although I don’t know why since the helicopter knows exactly where they are. Whatever. Let’s just get this over with.

–Tom asks Carrie if she can get some more small sticks for the fire. There are literally dozens of small sticks laying around, which Carrie points out to him. He wants more, though.

–Tom, Lord of the Sticks.

–Carrie, Queen of Get-Me-The-Fuck-Away-From-This-Loser.

–The helicopter sees their smoke signal. Ok, N&A. I’m sure it wasn’t because of the giant clearing they were standing in that was predetermined by the producers.

–They made it!

–Carrie says that she doesn’t think they’re going to be lifelong friends, but she doesn’t “hate” Tom. She totally hates Tom.

–Tom wishes he’d done the challenge on his own. He didn’t like a woman telling him to man the fuck up and to stop dirt sitting.

–They fly away on the helicopter, awkward smiles on their faces. They refuse to high five each other, hug each other, or even look at each other. Wow.

–Updated PSR time. This should be interesting.

–Tom’s PSR is now 5.4.

–Carrie's new PSR is now 4.8 (The narrator tells us that because she left her partner behind at the beginning of extraction, her score was dramatically affected).

–Wow. I’m speechless. What a joke.

–I nominate Tom for the Dirt Sitter Hall of Fame.

–I wish Carrie was given another shot (I don’t recall another episode with her). I think she’d do well with a competent partner.

Well, that ends another N&A Running Diary. The episode had plenty of drama, dirt sitting, and clams. Tom was one of the most dislikable contestants I can remember on the show.

–Stay warm and I’ll see you next time on:

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What's the age of Keen? They usually show that at the beginning, but not this time. I don't find much about that influencer Salamander God...

His Amazon partner Fairland Ferguson is born 1983, age 40 - and looked much younger than that.

Question to any NA participant: You starv for 21 day or more and lose a lot of weight. How is keeping the weight when you get back? As many can verify, diets often lead to later weight gain and you end up weighing more. Do you have the same problem? Thank you all survivors for doing this for our leisure.

Jeff just schooled Patrick . Not liking Patrick . Tired of his whining voice Ky hangs with the guys . She is a legend

Thoughts on Dani ? 32 days - simply amazing.

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So now that we know who wins, and that means they can't be in season 3 I guess, just like Waz wasn't in season 2, this is making it hard for me to stay interested. Does this mean Waz and Dan are both going to be banned from the next season? Because Dan and Waz were pretty much the only ones I still liked.

Other ones at least halfway liked. But now most are gone. Matt, Steve, they I guess didn't want to be part of it? Then we knew EJ was getting too old for it, sad but not too surprising.

I just wish they would put in more ones I liked. By the way Justin Governale is all for it but he wasn't asked. We did get that other castaways guy but he wasn't as good.

Cas the white butt army dude on season 2 is all for it too, but hasn't been asked. Both him and Justin have confirmed this. I'm not sure why they ask who they ask but they seem to ask a lot of ones I don't care much about, and not enough of the ones that would keep me invested.

Why does no contestant ever take a plastic tarp ? Would b a big morale booster if you know have a place you are guaranteed shelter from the rain.

I feel like it said XL for a while, I know they change it for certain seasons, am I forgetting or is this something new coming?

I just started watching NAA LOS season 2... and I just gotta say I LOOOOOVE the rules. They had to outline the rules that should have been common sense on a challenge in season 1. Something only Jeff was doing. I was soooo annoyed the first season. Everyone ganging up on Jeff and calling him a narcissist. Matt was the narcissist and the biggest a-hole imo. He was literally the leader and the one who said let's all gang up on Jeff basically. Everyone kept saying throughout season 1 "we don't share with Jeff cause he doesn't wanna share" it's a competition, AND how the eff did anyone know thay he wouldnt share. He tried trading stuff (which was common sense) day 1 or 2. That's it. Everyone just mad he collected the most the fastest. Can't wait to see what happens season two.

Did anyone else feel so bad for Mel the way Lacey spoke to her? I really hope someone stood up for her and they just didn't air it!! I just had to make a post about it. Am I being too soft!! I thought maybe Shane was somewhat overreacting calling her a narcissist but now I don't think so at all!! I thought for sure there would be a blow up!!