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    What is the difference between "eke" and "büsegüi" for "woman"?

    I am studying Classical Mongolian from Sárközi's book, and these words eke and büsegüi are described on p.16 and 18 as both meaning "woman". Are they complete synonyms, or is there some semantic or regional difference between them?

    I don't know the corresponding Cyrillic, sorry!

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    2024/04/29
    10:53 UTC

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    I made an Mongolian language learning App (IOS/Android)

    Сайн байна уу ?

    I hope you are still learning Mongolian 🇲🇳! I have been learning Mongolian for years now and the most challenging part, in my opinion, is memorising vocabularies and pronunciation. Especially verbs are hard to recall. And I knew there are a lot of great apps that solve that problem for hundreds of languages ... but not Mongolian.

    Because of that, I decided to develop an app that helps to memories Mongolian words and phrases. It’s called „GerTrainer“ and is available for iOS and Android. Currently with „GerTrainer“ you can memorise 1k+ of the most frequent words and phrases with three different learning modes.

    📲 If you are interested, you can find GerTrainer in the Apple AppStore:

    https://apps.apple.com/mn/app/gertrainer-learn-mongolian/id6476536038

    The Android version is still in the testing phase. If you are interested in getting access to the Android version please send me a private message with you email address(mail address must be associated with your google play account, I have to invite you)!

    I am keen on your opinion about the app and possible improvements. Depending on the success of the app I will add more sections and some grammar. The current version is best suitable for beginners or intermediates who want to improve their vocabulary. Hope "GerTrainer" can help you to improve your Mongolian!

    Маш их баярлалаа ☺

    11 Comments
    2024/04/29
    09:31 UTC

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    how to learn Mongolian?

    3 Comments
    2024/04/28
    01:17 UTC

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    Байхгүй байсан байна someone explain this please.

    5 Comments
    2024/04/25
    01:48 UTC

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    Is Mongolian Harder Than Turkish?

    7 Comments
    2024/04/23
    15:08 UTC

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    Is Namulun, a Mongolian name? If so is it used for male or female? And what does it mean? Thank you.

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    2024/04/23
    04:41 UTC

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    Can someone please tell me what this means in English? Erguu larlar ?

    8 Comments
    2024/04/23
    02:28 UTC

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    Resources to learn the traditional script?

    Not interested in learning Mongolian fluently…But I do want to learn how to write in the traditional script. I can write and read in Cyrillic so it shouldn’t be insanely hard. I hope I can add another script to the 4 I already know. Resources are few and far between, So I am hoping I can find something.

    Thank you

    2 Comments
    2024/04/22
    15:03 UTC

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    victim of a russian school

    i (14M) have been studying at a russian school for 9 years. i did receive a stable primary education from both the mongolian and russian curriculums but my middle-high school experience has been pretty miserable. i was a straight A student from 2-6th grades; even placed at the top of all classes - until 2020 hit and online classes started at the moment i dont have any problems socially, but the pressure from not fully understanding a topic or a whole subject and failing it at the end of the semester has only been growing i feel like a confused burnout; i know my potential and that i can do better ive been wanting to transfer for two years now, my main options being BSU (british school of ub) and hobby (because they both provide scholarships? im not sure). minii mongolchudaa please help a fellow mongolian out - recommend a school that follows an english curriculum (that are affordable/that provide financial aid) and tips on how to apply to them

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    2024/04/18
    16:42 UTC

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    It is all greek to me.

    What would be the mongolian version of this idiom?

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    2024/04/18
    11:20 UTC

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    Бэ and Вэ

    Wassup I am really new to Mongolian and wondering what the difference is between бэ and вэ. I don't know how both of them are used, if they are the same, or when they are used.

    12 Comments
    2024/04/18
    01:08 UTC

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    My Name

    My name is Pastal(Pástàl for those who want pronounciation) and I wish to know theTraditional Mongolian Equivalent, the Closest I have gotten is Bastar.

    2 Comments
    2024/03/24
    09:57 UTC

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    I need help finding a name!

    I'm looking for a name similar to Galtmaa, which (if the internet didn't lie to me) means something akin to mother of fire, fire mother, fiery woman. Specifically, I'm looking for a name and/or title meaning the copper mother, mother of copper, the rust mother, mother of rust. This would be for a character in a fantasy/DnD setting; an ancient copper dragon.

    4 Comments
    2024/03/20
    04:35 UTC

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    Does anyone remember this one random Mongolian learning video?

    I vividly remember a video featuring a white woman in a traditional Mongolian costume claiming she could teach the audience the basics of Mongolian in ~10 minutes (can’t remember the exact amount of time, but it’s very short). She had an American accent and was writing on a whiteboard, and there was a man sitting next to her trying to learn in real time. They were in a yurt.

    I can’t find the video anymore. Does anyone remember that?

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    2024/03/18
    19:03 UTC

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    What language family does Mongolian language belong to?

    Mongol Journal on Instagram: "Mongolian belongs to the Mongolic language family, Other languages within the Mongolic family include Buryat, Kalmyk, and Oirat.

    3 Comments
    2024/03/04
    08:36 UTC

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    Translation for the word "foreigner"?

    Hi! I'm looking to translate one word - I've tried to look at online dictionaries, but there seem to be different variations. I really like the literal translation of "person in a foreign land" - can someone help?

    I've looked at these websites but am not sure which I should use. It's like a title for a creative piece (just the singular word/term, not in a sentence), so it doesn't really have particularly negative connotations, more like a parallel that this foreigner is passing through the country. There's a sense of adventure, travel, being lost, as well as learning new cultures.

    I'd like to know both the script characters, as well as the romanized pronunciation. TIA!

    https://www.lexilogos.com/english/mongolian_dictionary.htm

    https://bolor-toli.com/result/?word=foreigner&direction=1

    https://glosbe.com/en/mn/foreigner

    7 Comments
    2024/02/21
    23:21 UTC

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    A useful website for children's books in Mongolian

    letsreadasia.org is a fantastic site for finding books intended for young children. In my opinion, it's a wonderful resource to use for sentence mining before transitioning into longer, more advanced books.

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    2024/02/11
    05:10 UTC

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    Надад vs би

    Сайн уу,

    I am wondering if someone could please tell me why надад is used in some places where I would expect би? For example надад байхгүй. I don't understand why it isn't би, as in 'I don't have' because 'i' am the subject in this sentence.

    Cheers!

    13 Comments
    2024/02/09
    09:13 UTC

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    Mongolian syntax

    I look for the material on the topic of the influence of the Chinese language on syntax of the Mongolian language. For example, the “Би багш хийдэг” model is clearly not Mongolian. Maybe Chinese, maybe Manchurian.

    I’m studying Mongolian and I'm doing a report on this topic and I can't find the information I need. pls help me🙏

    6 Comments
    2024/02/01
    13:32 UTC

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    Дөч vs дөчин

    Heyo,

    I've just started learning Mongolian maybe 3 weeks ago and I'm wondering if some kind soul can tell me the difference between дөч and дөчин. My learning style definitely includes understanding various grammatical things as they come up.

    Thanks!

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    2024/01/31
    04:22 UTC

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    What is the Mongolian government's character plan?

    I wonder what characters the Mongolian government plans to use in the future. As I understand it, currently, MONGOL BICHIG is difficult to input on digital devices due to vertical writing, and there is no APP that supports MONGOL CYRILLIC, so some characters are unsupported because they are input in RUSSIAN CYRILLIC. Does the person in charge of the Mongolian government think that a country that cannot input its own characters on PCs and smartphones can develop?

    Is the Mongolian government developing a digital input method for the Mongolian Bichig, it's just being delayed? Or are they not even planning to do that? I am a Korean doctor and my hobby is to transcribe speech from different countries of the world using the classic korean alphabet(正音). I have transcribed russian cyrillic and mandarin/cantonese/vietnamese, and in the process, I believe that cyrillic has a slight advantage over romanization for transcribing Mongolian pronunciation.

    Since it is essential for a country to be able to communicate with its citizens, and it is the sovereign right of a country to decide which script to use, I hope that the Mongolian government will choose between Romanization/Mongolian Cyrillic/Mongolian Bichig and develop a way to input Mongolian speech into digital devices as soon as possible.

    https://preview.redd.it/c4fr78uppsdc1.jpg?width=982&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28a032ff5e99eb90e09a34559070c2dca8315308

    This is a translation of the classic korean alphabet(正音), including the mongol cyrillic and Galik letters. King Sejong, the creator of the korean alphabet, knew sanskrit. Your mongol bichig and Phags-pa scripts were also created by monks or scholars who were well versed in sanskrit. The ideographic scripts of the countries around India are all influenced by sanskrit.

    - An unfortunate aspect of transcribing Mongolian pronunciations in Cyrillic is that the mongol /dz/& /ʤ/series is transcribed as Ж, which is the /z/ series in russian. Also, ɮ, a Mongolian pronunciation that is not commonly found in other languages, is undesirably transcribed in both lh and лх.

    - Cyrillic doesn't have a consonant for ng[ŋ], so it's written as нг, which has anㆁ in the classic korean alphabet.

    - The masculine/feminine opposition of the Mongolian vowel harmony is shown below, which can be transcribed into Korean vowels.

    hard(a, о, у /ㅏᅟᆟ ᅟᆗ) vs soft(э, ө, ү /ㅔ ᅟힼ ㅜ)

    When written with Korean vowels, we can visually and intuitively recognize that ㅑя ㅕё belongs to the hard family, and the derivative ㅖе belongs to the soft family.

    Sejong's consonant & 4-seasons(木火金水)

    木(wood)火(fire)土(earth)金(metal)水(water)
    +陽ㄱ gㄷ dㅂ bㅈ dzㆆ ʔunaspirated/unvoiced,voiced mix
    +陽ㅋ kㅌ tㅍ pㅊ tsㅎ haspirated
    -陰ㆁ ngㄴㄹ n lㅁ mㅿ zrㅇ ∅sonorant
    -陰fortis(now)

    Sejong's vowel system. l [i] is front vowel, ㅗ/ㅜ[o,u] is round-lip vowel, ㅡ[ɯ] is back vowol

    https://i.redd.it/rlec178zpsdc1.gif

    korean-alphabet vowel has 4 basic clue. ㅣ/i/ front vowel, ㅗㅜ/o,u/ round-lip vowel, ㅡ/ɯ/ back vowel, these are basic orientions in vowel quadrangle of IPA. so ㅐɛ ㅔe ᅟᆚø ᅟᆛy are front vowels(including ㅣ/i/ sound ), ㅚoe ㆉœᅟᆚø ᅟᆛy ㅟwi ᅟᆗʊ are round-lip vowels. this is easy way you remember korean-vowels.

    diphthongs ㅣ-ㅗ=ㅛ(yo) ㅣ-ㅜ=ㅠ(yu)ㅣ-ㅏ=ㅑ(ya), ㅣ-ㅓ=ㅕ(yeo). In Sejong's symbol, ㆍrepresents the sun, l represents a man/tree, and ㅡ represents the ground. Does the logic of writing ㅣ-ㅏbecome ㅑ is strange? There can't be 2 suns in nature. if 2 person(l - l) look at one sun, there are two suns in the minds of two people.(월인천강)

    ㆉœᅟᆚø ᅟᆛy i ᅟᆗʊ are not in hangeul. Hangeul was invented as a korean script(文子), not IPA. ㅣ/i/ front vowel, ㅡ/ɯ/ back vowel, If you know this, you'll understand why the pronunciation of ㅢ is so equivocal, even for Korean natives.

    Actually, there are 2 shapes, ㅢ/ɯi/ᅟᆜ/ɨ/. When Sejong's alphabet became hangeul, ᅟᆜ/ɨ/ disappeared, leaving only ㅢ/ɯi/. ᅟ

    ㅐ sounds like /a/ in the same tongue position as the /i/ sound, and ㅔ sounds like an /ʌ/ in the same tongue position as the /i/ sound, ᅟᆛ sounds like /u/ in the same tongue position as the /i/ sound, andᅟᆚ sounds like an /o/ in the same tongue position as the /i/ sound, and you can tell where they sit in the IPA vowel quadrangle just by their shapes. Western IPA vowel characters are just disorganized ugly snails. ^^

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    2024/01/21
    13:33 UTC

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