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Harris distances herself from Biden’s ‘garbage’ comment as Democrats are privately exasperated by the president

Washington, CNN — Vice President Kamala Harris on Wednesday distanced herself from President Joe Biden’s comments that seemingly referred to Donald Trump’s supporters as “garbage,” setting off a political firestorm a week before Election Day.

Harris told reporters that she “strongly” disagrees with criticizing people based on who they vote for. Asked if she has spoken to the president about his comments, Harris said that Biden called her Tuesday evening but that the president’s comments “didn’t come up.”

“Listen, I think, first of all, he clarified his comments, but let me be clear: I strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for. You heard my speech last night and continuously throughout my career. I believe that the work that I do is about representing all the people whether they support me or not,” Harris said on the tarmac at Joint Base Andrews.

The vice president also repeated what she has said on the trail, including that she will “represent all Americans” if elected.

“I am sincere in what I mean: When elected president of the United States, I will represent all Americans, including those who don’t vote for me, and address their needs and their desires,” Harris said.

The president inadvertently injected himself into the home stretch of the campaign on Tuesday night when he was attempting to criticize Trump’s rally at Madison Square Garden over the weekend. Biden mentioned Puerto Rico, which was referred to as a “floating island of garbage” by a comedian at Trump’s event on Sunday night.

“And just the other day, a speaker at his rally called Puerto Rico ‘a floating island of garbage.’ Well, let me tell you something … I don’t know the Puerto Rican that I know… or Puerto Rico where I’m – in my home state of Delaware – they’re good, decent, honorable people,” Biden said during virtual remarks in a Voto Latino get-out-the-vote call meant to help Harris.

“The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters,” Biden said, pausing for a moment before continuing. “His, his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable and it’s un-American.”

Biden had attempted to explain away his comments on Tuesday night.

“Earlier today I referred to the hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico spewed by Trump’s supporter at his Madison Square Garden rally as garbage—which is the only word I can think of to describe it,” Biden posted on X later that evening. “His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable. That’s all I meant to say. The comments at that rally don’t reflect who we are as a nation.”

When CNN asked for an explanation on the president’s comments, a White House spokesperson insisted that Biden had meant “supporter’s” rather than “supporters,” arguing that he had actually said this: “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter’s – his – his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American.”

“The President referred to the hateful rhetoric at the Madison Square Garden rally as garbage,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said.

Harris’ campaign was quick to try to publicly defend or explain those remarks publicly. But in private, both inside and around the campaign, plenty of Democrats were quietly buzzing with frustration and concern about the president’s remarks.

Senior campaign officials were fielding messages of exasperation from supporters – some of whom suggested that perhaps the president should find a way to disappear from public view altogether in the final six days leading up to Election Day, sources said.

“The Biden gaffe yesterday is just so infuriating,” one former administration official said. “Nobody wants him out there.”

Biden’s remarks have undeniably become an unwelcome distraction. Trump and his allies quickly seized on them to accuse Harris and her campaign, by extension, of looking down on Americans who back the former president.

Democrats are forcefully making the point that Biden is not the presidential nominee, and Harris has been abundantly clear that she has respect for all voters – regardless of whether they support her. They also have lashed out at what they see as a double standard, given Trump’s long history of racist, misogynistic and offensive remarks.

“We won’t lose a single voter because of it,” said one adviser to the campaign, dismissing the significance of Biden’s comments.

As CNN has reported, there had been growing wariness among Harris campaign aides about Biden’s propensity for gaffes, at a moment when the campaign does not want to take any unnecessary political risks. Tuesday night’s “garbage” comments from Biden only ended up confirming those existing concerns for many Democrats.

Earlier on Wednesday, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Harris’ vice-presidential running mate, said in an interview with CBS News that Biden’s comments a response to the “frustration with Donald Trump’s rhetoric of division,” and rejected the argument that they undercut a central message of the Harris campaign to unify the country.

“I think there’s– the frustration we’ve seen since January 6, the frustration with Donald Trump’s rhetoric of division, it does fire passions, and I think … President Biden was very clear that he’s speaking about the rhetoric we heard at that. So, it doesn’t undermine it,” Walz said.

In an interview with ABC News, Walz said that Harris’ remarks in Washington, DC, on Tuesday should be the message voters focus on, noting that Harris is the candidate at the top of the Democratic ticket, not Biden.

“The president’s clarified his remarks, but let’s be very clear. The vice president and I have made it absolutely clear that we want everyone as a part of this. Donald Trump’s divisive rhetoric is what needs to end. He called this a garbage country, and continues on from ‘the enemy within,’” he said. “What you heard Vice President Harris say, and what I say is, there’s a place for all of us here, and I think that’s the one– she’s running for president, she’s making the message, and she delivered that speech on the Ellipse that showed what we can be as a country.”

What do we make of Harris and Walz’s response here?

Personally I was upset to hear Biden’s remarks. This was not the news story the Harris campaign needed at the moment, and one of the strengths of her ticket is being above this sort of rhetoric.

That said, I believe her and Walz’s responses have done all they needed to do: reiterate that Biden clarified his remarks, and recommit to not engaging in the sort of language that was seen at the MSG rally.

This might actually give her something to distance herself from Biden with, which could eke out to an important win for her campaign less than a week out from the election.

As an aside I do also believe in Biden’s clarification. Perhaps others may see me as a shill but I think confusion over the “Trump supporters” vs “Trump supporter’s” is believable considering Biden’s lifelong, but rapidly increasing propensity for gaffes. It still was not a good comment though, as is illustrative of why he is not in the race today.

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2024/10/30
19:10 UTC

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Biden's 'garbage' comment due to 'missing apostrophe': White House

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2024/10/30
17:28 UTC

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Europe should learned to stop worrying and love the military

Forgive the bad play on a famous movie quote. [edit: damn typo in the title. lol]

Looking at the election in the US and it is conceivable that Trump wins the election. This brings up the topic of the Ukraine/Russia conflict. A lot of hyperbole is being thrown around and it's just sad reading the misinformation coming from the left.

First, my opinion: The US should continue to fund Ukraine and degrade Russia at the cost of no American lives. Something that I believe Reagan would be in favor of. We get to test our military assets against Russia and see the new military tactics in the age of drones and AI.

However.... This is not the position that Trump is taking. He sees any US involvement as transactional. Ukraine doesn't provide anything to the US so the US is being taken advantage of. Some might believe that he is a stooge of Putin, and I don't buy it.

This is where EU/European countries can navigate a new course that takes their destiny into their own hands. Build up your own military, increase military spending, encourage european defense companies to grow. They have had nearly a decade to prepare..... What a decade?

Yes, Trump has been talking about Europe needing to defend themselves, NATO countries not contributing enough, US not supporting countries that are "parasites"....

Trump has additionally said that buying Russian natural gas was enriching the very nation threatening them.

In almost every way in these issues, I'd argue that Trump was right.

2018: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44780489

Mr Trump said Germany was "totally controlled by Russia" because of the high level of natural gas it imported, and this was a "bad thing for Nato".

2017: https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-world/article/full-transcript-of-interview-with-donald-trump-5d39sr09d?region=global

And the other thing is the countries aren’t paying their fair share so we’re supposed to protect countries but a lot of these countries aren’t paying what they’re supposed to be paying, which I think is very unfair to the United States. With that being said, Nato is very important to me.

2018: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44799027

US President Donald Trump has urged Nato allies to commit 4% of their annual output (GDP) to military spending - double the current target.

Trump has a point the Germany/Europe guzzled at Putin's natural gas, funding his eventual invasion of Ukraine. Skirted their obligation to 2% GDP funding of NATO (some notable exceptions). Abused their relations with the US to avoid building their own military capable of countering Russia.

Now, Europe has to take their own destiny into their own hands.... Stop worrying about the US funding Ukraine, they are capable of doing it themselves. Combined European GDP is almost 10 time larger than Russia. They just have to get their priorities straight... they have had nearly a decade to do it....

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2024/10/29
12:26 UTC

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More on the Diploma Questions in Adams v. Gulley, the Case Where a Judge Ordered the Removal of Reddit Criticisms of a Public Commentator

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2024/10/29
17:35 UTC

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