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Any idea when they are going to call in rest of the applicants for 500

2 Comments
2024/09/15
14:25 UTC

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Getting spicy.

16 Comments
2024/09/13
18:32 UTC

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Los Angeles/Long Beach casual list

Hello Everyone,

anyone know what number they're on in the casual list?

Thank you :)

6 Comments
2024/09/13
17:26 UTC

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What are the lengths of all the standard Lashing Rods?

6 Comments
2024/09/13
05:02 UTC

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Beautiful Thursday morning on the Houston Docks

Away from home, Making the ship line CEO’s billions in profits while their at home with their families. Contributing to the commerce in this country while I pay inflated prices at the stores. Getting paid pennies in hostile conditions by stevedores that get incentives on the production we produce. God bless the Longshoreman.

0 Comments
2024/09/12
13:07 UTC

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ILWU standing in solidarity with ILA

Has any ILWU members been told what to do coming up with the ILA possibly striking on Oct. 1st?

Just curious what the leadership has said on the topic. This potential strike is a little nerve racking.

33 Comments
2024/09/11
18:09 UTC

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Card just shipped how long do you think it should take to arrive

3 Comments
2024/09/11
17:47 UTC

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Never forget

Fortunate enough to have a reminder in the RTG today.

2 Comments
2024/09/11
11:10 UTC

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500/502

How long did it take everyone to get in from start to finish?

7 Comments
2024/09/11
07:04 UTC

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Looks like we are hitting the streets OCT 1st

Get With the Times, ILA Tells USMX, And Stop Your Propaganda Campaign; Management Raking In Billion Dollar Profits in 2024 While Offering ILA Longshore Workers 1980-Level Wages and Benefits

NORTH BERGEN, NJ (September 10, 2024) The leaders of the International Longshoremen’s Association (ILA) slammed United States Maritime Alliance in a message to their members over the past weekend, charging that “USMX’s corporate greed has made them delusional – profits over people.” ILA President Harold Daggett and ILA Executive Vice President Dennis Daggett co-signed a message to the ILA’s 85,000 members on Saturday, September 7 providing them with the stark message that the two sides were far apart on many issues and warned ILA longshore workers against USMX’s propaganda campaign “designed to mislead and divide us.” USMX contract proposal, they charged, failed to recognize the current economic conditions, including inflation that ILA longshore workers and their families face in 2024. The ILA leaders attacked USMX’s claim that they were offering industry-leading wages. “Their interpretation of ‘leading wages’ is polar opposite to ours,” the ILA leaders said. “Inflation has completely eaten into any raises and wages. Everything has become more expensive, even compared to six years ago. Our members are struggling to pay their mortgages, rent, car payments, groceries, utility bills, taxes, and in some cases, their children’s education. USMX’s corporate greed has made them delusional - profits over people. They have taken advantage of a low entry wage and a tiered progression system for thirty years. We outright reject their position on the new entry wage.” The union leaders further charged that USMX was “trying to fool you with promises of workforce protections for semi-automation.” “We don’t want any form of semi-automation or full automation,” the ILA said. “We want our jobs -the jobs we have historically done for over 132 years.” The top ILA leaders described another important aspect of the Master Contract Agreement – Container Royalty. They reminded ILA members that container royalty was originally negotiated as a supplemental wage and that all container royalty money belonged to the ILA and its members. “Our members should never have to share their container royalty money with the ocean carriers, who are currently making record profits,” they wrote. The ILA leaders pledge to keep ILA members up-to-date and repeated their warning to disregard misinformation coming from USMX. “Disregard any information coming from management,” they wrote. “These are the same people who circumvent your contract every day and drag their feet in the grievance and arbitration process. These are the same people who act like ‘Big Brother’, watching your every move and creating hostile work environments by putting cameras in our workstations and equipment.” Harold and Dennis Daggett remain confident and inspired by the ILA membership. “As frustrated as we are with our employers, it’s almost comical that they believe our members would fall for this nonsense,” they said. “We are a rank-and-file-first administration, and we are taking on this fight for you and your families! “Stay strong, stay united and we will prevail,” they added. ILA President Harold Daggett and ILA Executive Vice President Dennis Daggett full message to ILA members follows: Letter of Opposition to USMX's Misleading Statement

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

Our employers' association, USMX, recently issued a press release attempting to paint a rosy picture of the current state of negotiations. Let us be clear: this is nothing more than propaganda designed to mislead and divide us.

Industry Leading Wages? USMX claims to offer industry-leading wages. However, their interpretation of "leading wages" is polar opposite to ours. Inflation has completely eaten into any raises and wages. Everything has become more expensive, even compared to six years ago. Our members are struggling to pay their mortgages, rent, car payments, groceries, utility bills, taxes, and in some cases, their children’s education. USMX’s corporate greed has made them delusional—profits over people. They have taken advantage of a low entry wage and a tiered progression system for thirty years. We outright reject their position on the new entry wage.

Our work is in a shape industry; we are at the beck and call of the ships. No ships mean no work. The only guarantees our workers have are hourly, daily, or shift guarantees. Our rank-and-file members are not on salary—they work when the ships are docked at the berth, and only if their seniority affords them the opportunity.

Misleading Workforce Protections USMX is trying to fool you with promises of workforce protections for semi-automation. Let me be clear: we don’t want any form of semi-automation or full automation. We want our jobs—the jobs we have historically done for over 132 years. USMX members expects us to trust them? They don’t even live up to the current contract, and they want us to believe that they will honor workforce protections?

These companies have already shown their true colors. They order equipment like RMG’s and CRMG’s, and when we stand firm on our position, they cry about having spent tens or hundreds of millions of dollars, expecting us to feel sorry for them and negotiate an inferior deal. Well, that’s not going to happen! We don’t care how much they spend—a labor agreement should be worked out before they order any equipment. The days of the gentleman’s agreements are over. We want ironclad language, and we want the intent of that language in writing. Bottom line: the ILA does not support any kind of automation, including semi-automation.

These companies cannot be trusted! They continue to sneak in automated programs and eliminate our clerical functions behind our backs. They better get ready for the biggest fight they’ve ever seen. We are done with them unilaterally implementing work processes and having zero respect for our members and their work functions.

Container Royalty: Our Members' Money Container royalty was originally negotiated as a supplemental wage. That’s our members' money, earned through their hard work! Our members should never have to share their container royalty money with the ocean carriers, who are currently making record profits. The very idea that these corporate giants would even consider taking money out of our members' pockets is sickening. This is yet another example of corporate greed and their disdain for the workers who make their success possible.

Cameras in Workstations USMX continues to monitor us by placing cameras in our workstations and in the cabs of the equipment we operate. They say it's for safety, but we know better. They are using these cameras to monitor and control us, making our members feel like they’re being watched every second of the day. No worker, especially a woman, should feel uncomfortable or unsafe because management is stalking them while they’re trying to do their job. These employers are creating a hostile work environment under the guise of safety, and we won’t stand for it.

Retirement and Pension Contributions We negotiated a National Money Purchase Defined Contribution Plan in the current contract, and yes, the employers will be adding to that. But it’s a constant battle to increase the defined benefit (pension) because our man-hour assessment is simply not enough money for us to manage our funds at the local level. Remember, the first five dollars of the man-hour assessment goes directly to MILA. Not to mention that if your port receives a CR5 subsidy (V&H), then your port cannot enhance or improve local benefits, even if your pension fund is 150% overfunded. This is a constant battle with the management trustees. We are now fighting to change the rules around CR5 and increase the man hour assessment so that we can enhance local benefits.

Most of our defined benefit pension plans do not give retirees or their spouses enough money to retire with dignity. Starting a National DC program is great, but that’s for those who still have 15 years or more to go. What about the people who want to retire now? We need to increase our man-hour assessments, and we need a significant increase in our tonnage assessments! Man-hours are flatlining or barely increasing by 1-2% in this modern era, and carriers hide behind withdrawal liability. These employers don’t care about the workers who helped them achieve their historic record profits. It’s time they start giving back to the people who worked hard on the waterfront for decades. Our members deserve to retire with dignity and financial security.

Healthcare Coverage and Hardship Provisions USMX suggests that our healthcare benefits will remain the same. That’s not good enough. We demand better coverage for our members. We want to enhance our benefits, not just maintain them. Our members deserve it, and we will fight for it.

We also want to establish a hardship provision for those rare but heartbreaking cases where members are at risk of losing their healthcare benefits. It’s unimaginable that, during times of crisis, a member and their family could be left without essential coverage. In such situations, lives can be destroyed, or families may be forced into bankruptcy just to manage medical bills. We are committed to making sure those members receive the healthcare benefits they need and deserve when they need them most.

USMX’s Propaganda and Our Unity This propaganda from USMX is exactly what we predicted weeks ago. It’s also incredibly insulting that they think our members aren’t smart enough to see through their tactics. I don’t believe they understand just how united this union is today. When the time comes, we will send out the most accurate and up-to-date information to our membership. In the meantime, disregard any information coming from management. These are the same people who circumvent your contract every day and drag their feet in the grievance and arbitration process. These are the same people who act like Big Brother, watching your every move and creating hostile work environments by putting cameras in our workstations and equipment.

As frustrated as we are with our employers, it’s almost comical that they believe our members would fall for this nonsense. We are a rank-and-file-first administration, and we are taking on this fight for you and your families!

Stay strong, stay united, and we will prevail!

In solidarity,

Harold and Dennis Daggett International Longshoremen's Association

16 Comments
2024/09/10
20:28 UTC

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Ports in US that hire into the union quick thinking about relocating

Anyone know of any ports in the US that hire into the union after a short probationary period? Doesn’t have to be longshoreman Boilmakers teamster’s whatever I’m from Philadelphia

15 Comments
2024/09/10
17:31 UTC

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Checkers/Stevedor vs long shoremen

Hello everyone as far as Pay goes it seems that checkers in Longshoremans both have the same pay cap. What are the benefits of doing one or the other and also it also seems as if primarily most Long Sherman are black and checkers and Steveador are primarily white. this is not a racial question just wondering long-term it I’m just curious why that is and is being one better than the other or at the end of the day as long as you’re in the ILA doesn’t matter what you’re doing, long-term it I am black btw and my friend sponsored me and I’m a steveador A was

21 Comments
2024/09/08
14:07 UTC

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ILWU Royalties

Does the ILWU still recieve royalties? I’ve heard from a couple of people that they gave it up a couple of years ago for an hourly pay bump.

8 Comments
2024/09/08
12:00 UTC

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Safety and sexual harassment training .it was due on the 30th. I was a day late and I had work on the due date. will I be removed from casual list indefinitely ? Local 54

10 Comments
2024/09/08
09:31 UTC

9 Comments
2024/09/07
17:28 UTC

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Or so they say...

20 Comments
2024/09/07
00:37 UTC

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With ur guys experience how long should it take to get my Twic card

Pls lmk

25 Comments
2024/09/06
20:23 UTC

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Local 500 - Trades Apprenticeship

Hey guys. I'm a casual at local 500, and I'm considering doing a trade in the meantime to have as a backup plan. I've spoken with a few executives, and Jason in training, and they've suggested either HD or Electrical (for the long term). HD work is short a LOT right now, but electrical not so much since they hired a ton of guys recently. But I'm more focused on which trade will be more in demand 10-15 years from now?

Any info would be greatly appreciated! Also, Jason told me the BCMEA only approved 1 HD, 1 Millwright, and 3 electrical apprenticeships since applications for that were open last month 😂 he said it's a struggle every day to fight for more, so that isn't really something I'm counting on. I think I'll likely pursue the schooling myself and maybe put in for apprenticeship once I move up the boards a bit.

11 Comments
2024/09/04
18:14 UTC

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Message from ILA President Harold Daggett

25 Comments
2024/09/04
16:37 UTC

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Beautiful labour day

6 Comments
2024/09/02
16:26 UTC

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Pension

Hello all I’m a casual I’m 35 years old starting reading this week once I make my hours year in and year out. What are the retirement perks? Is there a pension if so what are the requirements? And how much will you get paid? Also is there 401k match if so how much? What other long term perks are there?

19 Comments
2024/09/02
13:28 UTC

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500/502

When are they gonna do the hiring for more trades people?

7 Comments
2024/08/30
18:23 UTC

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East coast Ila new contract pay

Hello everyone I’m a casual and very new I’m training atm but I’ve heard with the new contract that the pay will increase dramatically for everyone even new people my pay is $20 atm but I’ve heard with the new contract my pay would go around $50 ish is this true even with me being so new?

22 Comments
2024/08/29
23:08 UTC

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Any news on the seattle lottery.

Just asking, I'm in the 600s and just waiting. Any news?

5 Comments
2024/08/29
15:19 UTC

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Local 23

4 Comments
2024/08/29
04:54 UTC

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New Zero Emissions Ship

The new zero emissions ship from Maersk. This picture is from a Facebook group page called On The Waterfront. I'm gonna check it out tomorrow. They're giving free tours as well. The ship is docked at the Port of L.A. Huge ass ship!

30 Comments
2024/08/29
04:27 UTC

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Another beautiful night at the harbour.

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2024/08/29
03:25 UTC

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Next lottery?

Any news of when the next lottery will start for local 23 port of Tacoma?

6 Comments
2024/08/28
22:48 UTC

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LA/LB casual process 147xx

Any word about lashing test? Or any other training coming up? Thanks in advance

14 Comments
2024/08/28
07:03 UTC

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