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I recently finished the manga, for me is the best rom-com ever made, but I'm not here to talk about how good it was. I'm making this post in search of enlightenment about the story and character of Kashiwagi, Tsubasa and Maki.

Needless to say I just finished reading it for the first time, so there's things I won't remember and things I didn't get, since I haven't yet done the full "research" that I do with every manga.

The manga sells you the idea of Nagisa being mature and emotionally intelligent. Her descriptive trait on the character sheet is literally "mature", she even noticed how Kaguya and Miyuki liked each other before anyone in the council. But then, when you look at her actions, I don't see any of this supposed maturity.

When Nagisa first met Maki, she took her as role model, sticking to her side and copying her in everything. Before Tsubasa confessed to Nagisa, she and her group messed and made fun of him, all in imitation of Maki, since she's a tsundere that tried to get the attention of the guy she liked. But Nagisa was never interested in him, she only did as Maki, and only accepted to date him for the pressure she was subjected to by the nature of Tsubasa's declaration.

Nagisa then went to seek council on how to break up with him, before even trying to make it work, and had to be told how to act to give this relationship a chance. This started a trait for her, whenever she's facing a problem, her first reaction is to move away from it and let the rest solve the issue without facing it herself.

Later on, when she finds out Maki was in love with Tsubasa, her first reaction was the same, to leave without explanation and avoid the problem. She broke up with Tsubasa without giving him a reason and then tried to lie to Maki to make herself look like a bad person so she would not feel guilty for dating her ex. You may think this was mature, sacrificing herself for her friend, but this is easily the worst thing she could've think of.

For wanting a quick solution, Nagisa left behind two people she loved and hurt them deeply only to step aside and let them solve the problem she herself caused. It was because of Maki, who had a big evolution thanks to people like Ishigami, Miyuki and Kaguya, that this problem was sorted out. It wasn't because of Kashiwagi doing the right thing, it was because Maki moved on (or tried) from the boy she liked but who didn't like her back in the same way.

Nagisa finished this story the same way she started it, leaving the problem for others to solve instead of facing it herself, and being happy that everything returned to the status quo. (except for the pregnancy part, I still don't know what to make of it)

I don't see the progression of her character, nor any sign of evolution. It's not like Fujiwara, who stays the same through the manga since she's the personification of youthful joy and childish fun. Nagisa, as far as I see/remember it, doesn't learn anything from her mistakes, and I'm sure she'd run away the moment another problem like this appears.

Please, if you do not agree, share why you think I'm wrong. I'm no hater, I want to like her. But as I see things now, I can't.

What if kaguya accepted the proposal of mikado to be saved by him?

To that heights of the manga its impossible to shinomiya do something lime that, but what would happened if she accepted, how could she tell to the studen council about this?

Will kaguya sama ever get a season 4 I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS MAN

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This is a fun one there are naive characters like tsubasa or the generic ones in we want to talk about Kaguya but then there interesting cases like Ishigami who's stated to be able to see through people really well yet is also stated to fall for feminine charms a lot

A weird question, but do you think the student council will stay friends forever, or will life drift them apart in the future? I know in the extra chapters, Aka said Shirogane will need his friends from high school and college to help him achieve something, but still.

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Miko: Why do I dream about him?😫

Kaguya x Shirogane is the best Ship for those two it's canon for a reason but what's the 2nd best option for our favorite romcom MC

I just finished the whole series + movie now I would like to start the manga, Wich chapter would be a good start???

Just re-watched the anime movie (First kiss that never ends) after a long time. And everytime, its like I've never seen love portrayed in such purity ever before..

What makes my heart ache is that most of us will never get to experience this :(

I just wish I had that, if only for a moment...

Mine is by far hayasaka she so SIIICKKK, pres gotta be second and kaguya third

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Mikado was a great character introduced late into the series and had a pretty big role to play in the final arc( despite not getting much free time) yet he never got his own ship funnier is he only interacts with 3 characters so if you could have had any Mikado ship be canon which one would it be

If she saw that then do everyone knows about Miyukis and kaguyas confession as they are the newspaper guys? I never read the manga so does the school knew that the phantom thief was shirogane and he did that all to confess to kaguya

Who is he? Do y'all manga readers have anything about who he is and any more details about him? I rlly want to know more about this guy.

He has such a ominous and Maybe even sinister vibe to his character and his smiles too

So I checked there is a movie on Kaguya-Sama , which is a sequel after season 3 , but I can't happen to find where should I watch it. I found it on Netflix, but it is divided in 4 episodes so I am a bit confused, why crunchyroll and netflix both divided the movie into 4 episodes instead of 1 ? Is it worth watching on Netflix or crunchyroll?

Quick question to the manga readers(i haven't yet decided to read the manga because I'm delusional that season 4 will come out)

Does chika get any kind of development? Throughout season 1-3(and the first kiss that never ends) i noticed how chika had never had a development arc of her own throughout the series(if you count her ramen adventures as development) and it's like aka only made her to be just there to ruin shirogane and shinomiya's plans of getting Each other to confess, it's got to a point where even shirogane had to make a plan to make chika not a problem in his confession

And in the kiss that never ends arc, now that they've actually kissed and like are together, i feel like she's gonna get sidelined because that was her whole purpose, wasn't it? To ruin their plans of confession? Now that they're actually together, i feel like she's gonna get sidelined and forgotten throughout the next 150+ chapters that's still unanimated.

I mean like we got a hayasaka arc, amazing development for yu ishigami, shirogane and shinomiya's amazing story, all of those but what about chika? I mean like it's gotten to a point where i think maki has had more development than her

What if we had a rewatch club like the Toradora! fandom at the end of year. Seeing how they split the movie into 4 episodes, we could line up the 3rd episode on Christmas Eve. Just throwing the idea out there.

I love Kaguya Sama but it's depiction of school life is less than accurate how long do you think the characters would survive

i think shirogane and Ishigami would do some atrocious things while there drunk I get the vibe of normally smart people but share one brain cell when around each other