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without getting too personal, i'm absolutely the opposite and i'd assume many other posters here are, too 💀 wish i could explain it but they'd never listen anyways.

what a depressing worldview they echo at each other... it really makes me sad for people who go there hoping for community, only to wall off so many other opportunities for connection and happiness.

also if you're feeling hopeless and thinking of joining, don't. trust me, your identity does not need to circle around being celibate, nor will joining a community of people who bond over being single and celibate help you to make others want to be around you. (if anybody's looking to talk or vent, feel free to message me! i promise there are ways out of this rabbithole if that's something you're struggling with).

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Self respect is the foundation of all other virtues. Why? Because people who respect themselves recognize the value in treating others as they want to be treated.

And if it’s one thing obvious about incels it is that they fucking HATE themselves.

Getting one to knock off the fucking self pity for ten minutes to have a real conversation is such an epic quest that you half expect to decide what cup is actually the holy grail at the end.

I feel gross taking screenshots of their content, but I don't know that sharing links is much better. Can we share links here?

Anyway, one of them was talking about wanting to titty fuck a woman. Maybe other men have other experiences, but even as a man who loves boobs, titty fucking is awkward and requires you to be especially well lubed. I got to titty fuck my fav boobs I've ever played with, and it was all just so dry that it takes you out of the moment. I'd also say it was physically uncomfortable. On top of that, even if you're well lubed, imagine the feeling of other fatty areas of a body on your dick, that isn't some kind of internal penetration. It's not that much different, and it's sort of just ok.

It's one of those things that sounds great when you hear it, and maybe looks exciting in porn, but in practice you pretty quickly want to move on to other things.

I remember seeing a thread somewhere once that said that if incels finally got laid, they'd see how they were making too big of a deal out of too much. Reading that incel just drool over titty fucking made me think of that.