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/r/HaloStory is a place for people to go to discuss the story and lore of Microsoft's hit sci-fi franchise -- Halo.

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Welcome to HaloStory!

This is the place to go if you're seeking discussion related to the Halo universe crafted by Bungie and cared for by 343 Industries. Feel free to discuss your thoughts on anything and everything Halo.

Remember, this subreddit is for the discussion of lore. Some topics may be opinion, so we ask that you respect the posters opinion and debate as you see fit, but do not resort to flaming.

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  1. All discussion must be related to the Halo universe

  2. Spoilers must be properly tagged and are in effect for 3 months following a new release

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  5. Posting fan fiction / fan creations is not allowed

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How strong were Ancient Humans?

Apparently Spartan augmentations bring modern humans 'closer' to ancient human forms. What were ancient humans like exactly? Were they all captain-america tier?

6 Comments
2025/02/01
15:20 UTC

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Adjutant Resolution

What are your thoughts on Adjutant Resolution? I thought he was a cool character. Honestly, I just like seeing monitors. He also had a small character arc of sort.

3 Comments
2025/02/01
11:02 UTC

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What would have happened if Regret was killed/captured on Earth?

We know from both cutscenes and dialogue that the UNSC's original plan was to raid the Solemn Pennance and capture Regret, a plan that obviously failed once he fled to Delta Halo. But I've recently had the thought: "What if he didn't jump?" What if the UNSC succeeded in it's initial plan and either killed Regret or brought him alive?

6 Comments
2025/02/01
08:04 UTC

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Cole Protocol Book

What are everyone's thoughts on this book? I just finished it and honestly was kind of not impressed. I didn't think it was anywhere near as bad as the flood and had a really cool premise but the further I read the more awkward the writing got.

Didn't hate it but it's maybe my second least favorite so far (reading them in release order) it's a shame cause I really liked Buckell's short story in Evolutions

17 Comments
2025/01/31
23:37 UTC

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What was the original plans of the Prophet of Truth motivations before the character shift in Halo 3?

Recently I’ve been watching both installation 00 and Hidden Xperia on the two voices from the Mausoleum Suite track. In Hidden Xperia he thinks that the voice (that people thought or was from Mendicant Bias.) was in fact from the Prophet of Truth or The Minister or Discovery from the short story Wages of Sin.

The reason for the Prophet of Truth is because of a piece of art of him in Halo the graphic novel where he showed to take off his crown holding while torn by internal conflict over his knowledge of the very foundation of the Covenant being a lie

Which got me thinking especially seeing that piece of art from The Halo Graphic Novel on what was the original plans for the prophet of truth and his motivations, especially when looking at halo 2 the game we got along with his original plans and story boards, as well as the book contact harvest which Joe wrote before the character we see in halo 3?

5 Comments
2025/01/31
22:04 UTC

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Why did the Servants of the Abiding Truth attack the Arbiter immediately after the Jiralhanae attack their headquarters?

I haven't read the books (I definitely should) so I'm getting all of the Halo information from Halopedia.

I understand that conflict was inevitable due to rising tensions and ONI's scheming, but it seems odd that their leader, Avu Med 'Telcam, would conclude that his faction must attack the Arbiter immediately after the local Jiralhanae in Ontom bombed their headquarters, whom seemingly have nothing to do with the conflict between the Servants and the Arbiter.

Is there any context I'm missing that led the 'Telcam's decision? Was he under pressure, see an opportunity, have a knee-jerk reaction?

2 Comments
2025/01/31
20:53 UTC

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The Story of Bracktanus from Halo 3: ODST

1 Comment
2025/01/31
20:12 UTC

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Halo 5 - halo infinite.

Hi, I just finished play the all the main halo games, and I was wondering what happened between halo 5 and halo infinite. I looked on Lin but got no good answers to what happened, some people say play halo wars 2 and some don’t some people leave out books while some don’t. Can anyone tell me what happened between the 2 games.

18 Comments
2025/01/31
18:29 UTC

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How Dangerous was UEG controlled space prior to the Human Covenant war?

Was UEG controlled space dangerous prior to the Human Covenant war's breakout? How common were insurrectionist or pirate attacks on vessels? How common was trafficking either guns or drugs? Also assuming the UNSC beat the insurrectionists and the covenant never showed up how many threats would there be left for The Spartan IIs to deal with?

17 Comments
2025/01/31
06:04 UTC

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Any idea what is the lifespan of an ODST once they enter combat?

I was discussing with a friend about Helldivers and ODSTs and he brought up that Helldivers only have a life expectancy of 2 minutes on average. Anyway, is there any info on an ODSTs life expectancy when they enter combat?

40 Comments
2025/01/30
22:07 UTC

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Why did Halo Infinite NOT pickup after Halo Guardians?

UPDATE: The consensus as to what caused the failure of Infinite seems to be these;

  1. Halo 5: The Guardians game was 343 industries second attempt at rallying the halo fans to another entry into now THEIR franchise. The game’s general plot and impact onto the franchise at large was so widely felt to be garbage that were was almost no chance at continuing the series.
  2. Cortana: Mainly the treatment of this character, as well as of the other characters in the story, was to blame for 343’s Halo’s Hate. In Halo 5 the character is resurrected, turned against the protagonist and wort of all, written terribly. The treatment of this character’s story being put front and centre is likely why the community at large felt there was no possible recovery from 343’s grand mistakes.
  3. 343 Studios: Seeing as every major mistake in the halo franchise can be contributed to one studio, and that studio having literally no other projects to praise, it is quite easy to approximate that the leadership of 343 has been almost the sole cause of halo’s downfall. Having created an original continuation that people did not adore, then an instalment people hated astronomically, and finally following these two projects with a 3rd complete rejection of all passed media, 343’s halo didn’t ever really have a chance itself to get off the ground.

(OG POST):

Title.

  • I ask this because 343’s logic should have either been; ‘okay, Halo 5 was a bigger letdown because of its departure form the trilogy. so you’ll know what we’ll do? we’ll stay more grounded and actually finish the story we’ve started so that the halo community feels they can really be invested in the story again this time because the next game will have a BETTER connection.’ OR, their logic should have been; ‘okay, we made Halo 5 because we liked the idea, and therefore, we are going to continue that story, because it’s good or we like it’.

Either way, WHY do they SKIP CORTANA’S END. If 343 hadn’t done that, the game might have had a CHANCE of succeeding critically. instead we got a MESS™ when we could’ve had one of these;

Ai uprising; technological cold war; galactic tyranny, a new dark age, EVIL cortana (or SAVED cortana, but not ‘do I trust you, do I not’ cortana from halo 5 - which they repeat anyway, so no growth there), or ANYTHING ELSE. Instead they go with: new race because other races are boring, new precursors because forerunners are lame, new halo because old halos are weak, and new ai because f*ck you one more time.

obviously halo infinite has its issues, all of which have been covered throughly, but just to add context, I will include my memories of the cons that the game included below, to jog your memory:

technical:

  • so much content was cut
  • halo is not an open world game, what are you doing
  • multiplayer advancement was insane

narrative:

  • why time jump from Guardians dude
  • banished from halo wars 2, sure, why?
  • there’s an ai that’s after the insane rogue ai cortana, and she IS cortana, but not, because her name is different and she a has a different directive, but wait a minute she actually IS CORTANA and we’re SCARED NOW, but it’s okay because it turns out, once again - she is NOT CORTANA! YAY! let’s call you CORTANA and CORTANA is DEAD. (bruh).
  • oh maybe the HARBINGER is the big bad guy all along! oh wait no, she loses? and I’m supposed to guess about what her actions cause in the next game - and care about that? and supposedly her race predates the godlike race that predates the futuristic race that is humanity? got it. of flood gone now too? cool, thanks 343.
57 Comments
2025/01/30
16:11 UTC

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What exactly is the artifact under Sword Base and why is it "crucial for our survival", also why do we deliver Cortana to POA but apparently chief already has Cortana?

I hear it is a ship that has coordinates to forunner megacity but how is this needed for our survival.

Also if it's a forerunner ship why is it buried 2000 ft underground? What is the point of that.

Also how does that relate to Cortana being created in the game at the end.

54 Comments
2025/01/30
15:43 UTC

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A Full Breakdown of The Battle Above Installation 04 - Halo Lore

11 Comments
2025/01/30
07:51 UTC

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Ai Comparisons (Halo X Bobiverse)

For those who know what the Bobiverse book series is, I can't help but wonder how Robert Johansson (Aka Bob #1) would compare to Cortana considering how similar they are, both having been born from an actual brain of a human or, in Cortana's case, a cloned brain, the process destroying said brain. The base of my curiosity is this: How can Bob last form 2133 till the present of 2345, having died and his head frozen in 2016 and replicated in 2133 yet Cortana starts to enter rampancy within 8 years, was it all due to the torture of the Gravemind? Or is rampancy just bound to happen to smart Ais?

49 Comments
2025/01/30
06:24 UTC

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The Story of Bracktanus from Halo 3: ODST

2 Comments
2025/01/29
22:11 UTC

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Could The Grand Edict be the Master Juridicial?

the guy in the Legendary ending and a few voicelines in Infinite, apart of the party that were judging The Endless. It feels like it would be fitting for that context for him to be that role. Very fitting too since Bornstellar is there as the new gene Supreme Commander, and if hes there surely Chant-To-Green is as well as the new Lifeshaper. (Hell shes probably one of the female voices that isnt Pyre). Now we just need a new gen not evil POS Master Builder lol.

Oh and I think "The Criterion" Is the new Council.

2 Comments
2025/01/29
19:40 UTC

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Discussion: The Covenant made progress through the study of Forerunner artifacts, but their basic technology is the result of their own civilization's development.

Just a few thoughts on recent articles, most of the information below comes from the 2022 Encyclopedia.

The Encyclopedia again states that the Covenant made advances through reverse engineering, which is unquestionable, but the Encyclopedia also states that the Covenant species first created their technology on their own.

The reactors commonly used by the Covenant come from the plasma knowledge of the San'Shyuum combined with the gravity technology of the Sangheili (but yes, gravity technology has been greatly improved after reverse engineering the Forerunner technology)

And the Sangheili were not ignorant, as the production blueprints for Covenant technology were clearly marked as being designed and maintained by the San'Shyuum and the Sangheili, and carefully refined over thousands of years.

Reverse engineering requires the executor to have a certain level of technical foundation to be able to implement it, just like the UNSC can reverse study the Covenant technology, but I believe that Stone Age humans cannot do this. The same principle applies to the Covenant. They cannot Complete reverse engineering without any prior knowledge.

10 Comments
2025/01/29
19:25 UTC

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With Sydney gone, which city would you like to become the UNSC new capital?

Personally, I would like Rome, although I wouldn't mind Boston either.

101 Comments
2025/01/29
15:46 UTC

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Looking for a fanfic about spartans creating their own society

So a few years ago i read this story where spartan 2's and 3's including: kelly, linda, fred, tom and lucy, were tasked to train the next generation of spartan's the catch being these were spartan 5's and ONI had decided to go back to its roots and kidnapped a bunch of children, they agreed but later came up with the idea of having their own children and then making them spartan's for some reason ONI didn't like this, anyway eventually the spartan 2's, 3's and the new 5's absconded with Infinity after lasky was sent to arrest them, and went about creating their own society using their own children and the children of some human's they picked up along the way. Also ONI blackened their names in the media and made them public enemy number one.

If you need more details just ask i cant be bothered to write everything i remeber out

6 Comments
2025/01/29
15:12 UTC

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Blue Team

I’ve been watching a lot of videos about Blue Team lately and I’m curious. When were they introduced into the canon? Was it in the books first?

Cheif is amazing (no shit right) and I love his more or less lone wolf arc in the games, but when he’s with Blue Team…that’s just bad ass🔥

19 Comments
2025/01/29
14:49 UTC

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Which first? Divine Wind or Rubicon?

Hey crew - just finished Epitaph and am looking into which book next. I’m pretty into all H5 and beyond story rn and I’ve read the other Ferret books prior to Divine Wind.

4 Comments
2025/01/29
07:04 UTC

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If you become part of the flood, are you denied entrance into Halo's afterlife?

Now I know what you're thinking, halo doesn't have an established afterlife, I'm basing this off of the assumption that the domain or some other neural physics based technological horror created by the precursors before they hate all life collects the essences or souls of every living being after they die, after all the galaxy in Halo is seemingly a "biological simulation" as it was artificially created using abilities that tamper with space and time and all the life in it was Created.

The flood seemingly contains all the knowledge and experiences of all the beings it's devoured, would it stand to reason that they're all really apart of it.

The lynchpin of this theory is that when the Primordial told the Ancient Human scientists the true nature of the universe, they immediately killed themselves, maybe that wasn't to die because life is pointless but instead to ensure they get to the domain and not captured by the flood for eternity.

(Sorry for my bad grammar I work at a dispensary and I never had a chance)

64 Comments
2025/01/29
03:31 UTC

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Halo Books (specifically audio on Spotify, are they a good listen?)

19 Comments
2025/01/28
21:00 UTC

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Do we know what the first aliens humanity encountered were and their reactions to not being alone in the universe?

I'm not talking Kig-Yar or any other intelligent alien species but rather alien fauna of the worlds that they colonized. It'd be such a pivotal moment to learn that you aren't alone in the universe so I was curious if there is any mention of such an event occurring within the lore.

6 Comments
2025/01/28
10:30 UTC

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The Insurrectionists are not the good guys.

Like a lot of people think that the innies are the good guys as they are rebelling against the UEG so they must be bad guys. Yes the UNSC and UEG are not the "good guys" either though against the Covenant they are. The UNSC has got blood on their hands and skeletons in their closet like Nuking Far Isle. But the Insurrectionists also nuked a city too, the Haven arcology bombing. Also theres ONI who are definitely bad guys such as using child soldiers for the Spartan II and III programs. But the Insurrectionists have used children as suicide bombers. The insurrectionist have also done truck bombings, bombing civilian spaceships and spaceports and have use people as human shields. They continued to fight the UNSC even after the Human Covenant war broke out. They also tried to sell out Earth and other colonies locations to the covenant thinking that they would be spared, though they were not obviously not. The innies are not the good guys.

103 Comments
2025/01/28
06:44 UTC

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The more I think about it the more convinced I am that Edge of Dawn is an original trilogy novelization.

Starting with the most on the nose. The title. To me, referencing dawn without some kind if tie in only serves to set people up for disappointment.

Next is the timing. Halo books pretty much always set up a game in one way or another. A chief story makes sense to be leading into the remakes. It could be setting up infinite 2 but I feel like 343 has learned not to continue the main story in a book. It could of course be a tie in to the battle royal but there is so little info that that my money's on the remakes.

And lastly the characters. I know blue team aren't Troy Dennings characters but it would be strange to hand the characters he's put so much work into over to another author. We know of 2 times chief went solo, Halo 1-4 and Infinite. Coincidentally part of that time period features one of Kelly Gays main characters heavily. Again spark isn't hers but her and Greg Bear really made spark who he is.

Of course there are a million other possibilities but I'd love to see this. It would be a great opportunity to set up some new supporting characters or flesh out old ones. Maybe we can see how stacker, dubbo, and Dustin Echoes escaped alpha halo.

11 Comments
2025/01/28
01:41 UTC

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Halo YouTube Copyright

So I’ve been wanting to get into Halo lore on YouTube and start my own content. Im a little hesitant just due to copyright strikes and whatnot from Microsoft.

How is it that HiddenExperia, Installation00 and the alike are about to post clips without being struck? Does it all just fall under Fair Use as long as you’re not just playing 10 min long scenes with no change?

I appreciate all help and info in advance. Here’s to a great year of Halo in 2025!

26 Comments
2025/01/28
00:42 UTC

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I finished reading Epitaph not long ago, and while I really loved the book, the last scene with Cortana is confusing and mess up the battle of Zeta Halo even more

So, we know that the assault on Zeta Halo lasted an entire day, from December 12 to December 13. So let's start with my first problem. This line: "The Didact’s focus narrowed. It didn’t take much inquiry for him to discover that the monitor had been masking the approach of the Infinity for some time." And this other one: "It didn’t take long to identify—a very large, very powerful Jiralhanae warrior moving down the corridor." They implied that the holographic projection of the Infinity that Cortana saw was not in real-time, so this mean that for an entire day a battle have raged over and on the surface of Zeta Halo, in which at least one or even more Guardians were destroyed, and Cortana, for all this time, was completely unaware of it because of Despondent Pyre. This for me is very, very difficult to believe. I know that in fiction sometimes you have to sospend your disbelief to enjoy a story, but this is just too messed up to do it. But that's not even the worst.

There is this other line: "As he glided along these pathways, the distinct impression of being watched filtered through his senses. He reached out but found no discernible presence to account for the suspicion. But he did find several blocked paths, which forced him to locate alternative channels and relays, a few of which then closed behind him. While he could not detect a presence, he felt certain that something was closing off routes the closer he came to the Silent Auditorium."

So, obviously this is The Weapon locking down Cortana, but if that's true, this mean that she waited at least several hours, at worst an entire day, to lock her down. We know that The Weapon was remotely deployed almost immediatly after the Infinity arrival and the Banished attack, so my question is: why she waited so much time to lock down Cortana? It doesn't make sense. Cortana could escape at any moment or even just leave the Auditorium and hide inside the ring's infinite network. Basically, if Epitaph is to be believed, The Weapon was like "Yeah, I will relax a few hours or even an entire day before locking her down. I'm sure Cortana will wait for me"

I know that fans have complained about how little sense the initial assault at Zeta Halo made since the release of Halo Infinite. It seems that 343 made that scene with the intention of clearing things up a little, but they ended up making things far far worst and more nonsensical.

21 Comments
2025/01/27
16:20 UTC

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If the war somehow never happened how was the covenant supposed to integrate humanity into itself?

The covenant never ran into anything as big and wide spread as the UEG. The grunts and brutes were either already primitive or had nuked themselves to the Stone Age. The Hunters Jackals and drones had some inter system or interstellar colonies but nowhere near the same extent as humanity. And the prophets who were almost extinct. Hell most of the covenant’s already existing colonies were sangheili owned and I believe in Outcasts it’s stated that they were “equivalent” to that of humanity’s colonies. So what would a humanity under the covenant empire even look like? Would they fight tooth and nail to conquer and indoctrinate every single human world to follow the great journey? Or would it be more like how the Jackals are “contracted” to work with the covenant and are more autonomous?

12 Comments
2025/01/27
06:33 UTC

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Best Reads Ahead of Empty Throne?

I’ve been all over the place reading all the books but I’d like to actually prepare for this one’s launch and join the convo at release! What books directly and indirectly lead into this one?

14 Comments
2025/01/26
22:12 UTC

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