Hey all, just wondering what the consensus on this trinket's two applications are. Here's a refresher:

Apply on hit: If Fisherman's Net is equipped: Stun (15% chance)

Apply on hit: If Serrated item is equipped: 3 Bleed (33% chance)

So my gut tells me if you have the Net, stun is the more useful application, even at under half the chance of success. I have both an occultist and an alchemist who can hit both ranks 3 and 4 with this, and I have both the Net and a serrated item by the first inn. This is going to be a killer's glow act 3 (obsession) run.

I'll always be able to switch back and forth before battle as the situation calls for, like if something is very resistant to stun I can swap or vice versa. Just kind of curious what other people's experience has been with this trinket and which application they prefer.

Grand slam run, 4/5 complete, last region, just some leagues from the mountain: collector appears. I was running the usual suspects and the collector simply DESTROYED everyone. Dismas' head critted 3 times in a row, one by one everyone was getting stunned and killed.

Feel free to share similar stories and rant about this statanic enemy

Hi guys, just thought I’d share a challenge I set myself and am working through at the moment. I wanted to work through the infernal vitrine, but didn’t want to just use the same comp over and over again (because let’s face it, Alchemist is OP).

So I made myself a challenge that I would do it using each path only once, and grand slamming each torch. The grand slam bit proved to be a little insane, so to prevent myself burning out I made small adjustments and my current rules are:

1. The same hero lineup and paths must be used all 5 confessions, with the exception that only one path change is allowed at the mountain ONCE. This is almost always just to deal with Resentment.
2. Deaths are allowed (so it’s not a true grand slam) but a death ends the run. All 4 heroes must survive the confession boss to count.
3. The confessions can be done in any order.

So far, these are the lineups I’ve used! Most of these are pre-rework as I’m playing on Switch.

1. Torchless: Warlock Occultist, Virtuoso Jester, Wanderer Flag, Ravager Hellion

• Post Rework (PRW), Wanderer Jester is fine, Jester is almost purely there to Encore the Warlock turn 1.

2. Fragile Flame: Sergeant MAA, Wanderer PD, Maniac Flag, Wanderer hellion

*This was PRW Sergeant

3. Despairing Flame: chaplain Vestal, Wanderer MAA, Antagoniste Duelist, Nightsworn GR

*PRW Vestal loses Ministrations, that kinda hurts, possibly hurts too much, I’m sure not sure.

4. Corpse Light: Wanderer HWM, Confessor Vestal, Wanderer GR, Poet Leper

*this was PRW confessor

5. Killer’s Glow: Banneret Crus, Vanguard MAA, Arsonist RA, Venomdrop GR

*PRW Vanguard is technically still fine because the relevant skills in this lineup ie Bolster, hold the line and Defender still do the same things. It doesn’t use any of vanguard’s new toys.

7. Doom Candle: Sharpshot HWN, Alchemist PD, Survivor RA, Wanderer Leper

8. Star Of The Chosen: Physician PD, Orphan RA, Aspirant Occultist, Bulwark MAA

*I did most of this PRW, Bulwark is still fine although it’s annoying to lose access to Stand Fast’s taunt.

10. Hateful Pyre: Deadeye GR, Surgeon PD, Scourge Flag, Carcass Hellion

11. The Stygian Flame: Seraph Vestal, Soloist Jester, Yellowhand HWM, Berserker Hellion

*PRW Jester was mostly here to Encore and Echoing March to access Pos 4. Wanderer Jester will do.

Final notes:

1. Shambler’s spawn is the best pet by far. Some of the other pets have utility but none even come close.
2. Dreaming General>Leviathan>Librarian>harvest child (probably controversial)
3. Don’t really have a favorite flame, they were all different challenges in their own way. Corpse Light was easily the least favorite though, urgh so tedious.
4. I’m going to try and do Bastard’s Beacon but with full access to all paths because I think it’ll be literally impossible with the paths I have left. I’m still gonna try to do it with the same rules though!

Thanks for reading! Happy to answer any questions about any of the lineups!

the boss fight is pure bullshit but im actually really interested in the lore abt the fanatic. is there a story reason he drops the cure other than being a warning for overinfected rosters? you'd think if he hated the curse that much he'd be handing them out. is he hoarding them for himself or just a case of being "incapable of nuanced understanding?"

So im kinda at the point where I feel ready to enter the first darkest dungeon level. I stopped playing my first playthrough of this game on Darkest difficulty ages ago because I got to around this point and never felt like I was actually ready to do the darkest dungeon and kinda lost interest for some reason. Started a new playthrough a few weeks ago on Radiant because I actually just want to finish this game. But now im at this point again and it feels like im never quite ready. Im worried about going in underprepared and losing my best heroes. This playthrough has gone a lot smoother due to my prior experience and Radiant difficulty making a few thing a bit easier. So I have a lot of good level 6 heroes with some solid locked in quirks and a lot of really good trinkets. What team comp is good for We are the flame? When are you actually ready to go in? I dont care about spoilers too much and I know the boss is basically super shambler. The hardest part of this game for me is just picking what missions and team comps I want to use. I hate getting into a mission and feeling like I fucked up my preparation. I love playing the game itself but the whole preparation part makes me lose interest.

In short I just need some good team comp recommendations for the first darkest dungeon mission so dont end up putting the game down again lol. I dont have dlcs apart from Shieldbreaker and Musk. Id rather not use a Shieldbreaker though because I dont have any level 6 and I cbf doing the nightmares.

So I was about to download this mod called ring master modded class but I couldn't find it on nexus so I search it on steam but I can't download it for some reason so I wanted to know if any one can send me a link to download it.

I love this mod so much I really need this mod on my game it's soooo good.

Is it just me or are some party compositions much easier than others for certain boss fights?

Last week I had my first run in with the Collector (only played DD1 for a few hours so didn't know about him) and he ended my run a few stops before I could do act4 mountain, with my party comp of ravager hellion, crusader, jester and alchemist PD (which I thought was decent as I beat a few lair bosses along the way without much issue). Vestal head healing up the Collector including all the DOTs seemed so OP, and yet killing the heads just makes Collector resummon them. I tried to focus down the Collector but the heads picked off my party one by one.

Today I met the Collector with MAA, arsonist runaway, ritualist occultist and alchemist PD. Managed to kill Vestal while still doing decent damage to the Collector, and the fight felt pretty easy and no worse than a tough altar fight like the exemplar.

Another boss that shows huge imbalance in party comp is act3 FF. I was dreading it with the above comp MAA/arsonist/ritualist/alchemist but managed to taunt my way through the first phase with the seen token only sticking on MAA. 2nd phase saw my MAA knocked down to death's door only once. This boss gave me so much trouble on other teams that didn't have taunt, and the only other time I beat him I was down to flagellant soloing him and killing with blight DOT.

I understand there were recent balancing changes. Is RedHook still planning to make more tweaks?

I’ve been playing for a bit, going between areas for heirlooms and trinkets as I see them, but holy hell how am I supposed to a) make enough money to build dudes so I can use them, and b) treat said dudes when stress is too high/they go butt-fuck insane? I get that it’s supposed to be hard, but I literally basically just went bankrupt awhile ago and had to go in with barely any food and torches and just made do. Barely came out with everyone intact at the end but it got me going again. I just feel like I barely come above breaking even, and end up at a loss if the dungeon went bad. Not to mention that lots of the ones I use are level 2, approaching 3, and if they get there I can’t even use them to go for the boss I’ve unlocked because they’ll have gotten a big head and not want to do apprentices stuff, leading once again to me having to grow new dudes when I wanna try it.

Hey everyone, I'm playing on steam and wanted to play on my Mac. Is there a way to transfer cloud saves or sync up between PC to Mac? It seems like DD2 on M1 has its own saves and won't sync up with my PC saves. I don't know if there's a setting I have to change. Any help or suggestions are appreciated!

When "Face Your Failures" is used, what determines where the spirit is spawned?

I used it on a Jester that only has solo which can target the front line, and the ghost appeared in the front line. Yeah safe to say I died. I am now traumatized and want to know I'm good to go as long as I don't have a non-damaging move targeting that spot.

In other words, will the game hard lock you by spawning the ghost somewhere the chosen hero cannot target, or nah?

I already know it will spawn if there is a move that targets that spot even if it does no damage cuz.. yeah

I really need a guarantee that the spirit for my crusader won't spawn in the backline if none of his moves target that last slot.

Edit: I see on the character sheet, the "target" bubbles are filled when certain moves like rallying cry are selected, despite it not targeting the enemy team. Will this affect the ghost spawn possibility?

Ive been wanting to play the Darkest Dungeon franchise for a while now and heard that DD2 was very much like a roguelike. As someone who loves those sorts of games (Dead Cells, Risk of Rain) and turn based games in general, would DD2 be best to start? Any responses would be greatly appreciated.

There is no action to choose on the scroll, and there are no special interactions on the graveyard

It seems to me that regardless of what role I want the leper to take, hellion does it better.

If I want a tank, carcass seems better than poet for managing stress, keeping herself at the front, and consistently easy access to block tokens.

if I want a frontline damage hero ravager can use combo to match his damage, i dont have to worry about blind tokens if i didnt get a combo up, and the cherry on top is sniping the back spot with iron swan. Leper seems inconsistent and can only hit the front spots.

I want to use him because hes just cool, but whenever I try building a team with him I cant see why I wouldnt just replace him with hellion for the sake of consistency and flexibility.

just looking for advice because I feel like Im missing something there

Hello there (general kenobi!).

I have around 800 hours in dankest dungeon 2, and probably most of them have been spent using dancing teams (and almost all of them on shambler pet). I'm not the best player, but i have some decent experience. I have to point, i lack experience with reworked jester (i don't really like the rework), so i can't provide much info about how to use him or comps that work with him. Also, i almost only use shambler pet, don't ask me too much about other pets. Feel free to add whatever you want on the comments or ask about stuff

Things to consider when playing dancing teams: Be mindful of how rotations work, if you're not, you may get a hero stuck in a bad position, and reduce their utility or damage, consider carefully which skills will be used in different situations and how they will affect rotations. This is probably one of the foundations of dancing teams, some can be really strict on skill usage and have a set rotation to avoid heroes losing their turns (some comps still have flexible skill usage). Be creative and you can have create a myriad of different teams and combinations

Dancing teams can be really vulnerable to the death of one hero, totally disrupting the movement of your hero and the odds of surviving until the inn.

You will usually lack a tank, and your ability to absorb hits may be average or below.

Remember: you can use non dancing heroes on dancing parties, as long as they're kept on the needed positions, i find seraph and alchemist (she is just op, strong on any comp until the rework comes) particularly good in this case, and flagellant for the front rows.

Heroes (or paths) that are usually used as dancers on this teams:

Grave Robber: My favourite hero. All paths are viable, I specially enjoy nightsworn, and i would say that deadeye is the worst for this as it limits her positioning. She may not start as the strongest, but has a huge potential with good quirks (specially deadly), trinkets (like jealous whisper, silent treatment, nautical compass, +crit trinkets) and upgraded skills, she can be the damage carry on most teams. I usually equip her with the following skills: Lunge, pirouette, thrown dagger, shadow fade, absinthe. Lunge and pirouette are mandatory, thrown dagger can be changed for another skill that you fancy, but i like it because it reaches position 4, shadow fade can be replaced for repartee on nightsworn and absinthe can be replaced by the grave eating skill if you like it more, i prefer absinthe because it works on bosses or when there are no corpses. Despite her low HP she has great sustain with absinthe and grave eating. She is also the fastest hero.

Crusader: Banneret is the only path you should use. Holy lance is a really nice skill, he can heal on any position (albeit he has a rather mediocre heal, specially unupgraded), heals stress from any position. While most of his stats are average, he fits anywhere and has both utility and decent damage. Don't expect him to be the carry, but he will always perform. I like him with bloodthirsty. For trinkets i like wounding words (quite risky), seaman's boots, nautical compass and reverberating redoubt (remember to keep his speed below or equal 2). Signed indenture is also great and will greatly improve your team's defence, footman's grog is also useful for utility, given his low speed. You will usually lack defensive token generations, unless you use his taunt, so he may be more vulnerable than it seems, still his hp is above average.

Highwayman: All paths are viable, but i would advice against sharpshot as it limits his positioning. I specially like rogue and yellowhand (for the riposte). Bloodthirsty is probably the best quirk for him. For yellow hand i like using duelist's advance, open vein, point blank shot if he is expected to be in position 1 from time to time, highway robbery and pistol shot for reach. Double cross is also a great skill. For rogue, i use Duelist's advance, wicked slice, highway robbery, point blank shot or grapeshot blast and pistol shot for reach. Don't forget about double cross if you like it. The highwayman suffers from the lack of self heal, and that may be a problem from time to time, don't forget you have pass heal if you really need it.

Duelist: I really like wanderer or intrepide (extremely risky), but all paths are viable. She has really low HP, and may explode if you're using intrepide, she lacks a self heal and has decent damage. I usually go for touche, feint, fleche, meditation and some other skill i fancy using (like coup de grace, flick or disengage). I advice locking defiant on her, as it really helps her avoiding quick deaths. Her stance trinkets are really useful to quickly get meditation online, or start with a high damage fleche.

Jester: As i said, i lack experience with him. He brings lots of utility, potential high burst damage with finale, damage over time and is a funny guy. He can be rather complicated to use and i don't really have him figured out. Quirks to lock: Bloodthirsty or defiant. (I some times cry remembering how busted old virtuoso was)

Occultist: Aspirant is the path you want to use if you will have him moving around and it's really fun. Warlock, ritualist and wanderer are viable if you lock him in the back. For aspirant, binding shadows is mandatory and wyrd reconstruction is too. The rest of the skill, you decide as it suits you best, don't forget to avoid curses. For warlock and ritualist, play him as usual. He brings decent damage, and extremely high potential damage with burning stars, a non cooldown, any position infinite but unreliable heal and fairly good hp with aspirant. He lacks defensive token generations and the self burn makes him really vulnerable, probably the most of all heroes. Wyrd reconstruction without upgrade is probably the worst healing skill in the game, specially on dancing teams as they tend to have rather low hp and will usually result in an overall negative healing with the bleed, upgrade it as soon as you can, though i advice against upgrading it on the first inn. Bloodthirsty is an extremely good quirk on him, or defiant if you want to offset the risks of his playstyle. I advice against using shambler's eye on dancing teams as he is one of the few healers you can get, but if you're feeling daring it's really fun.

Man at arms: Also known as dude with weapons. Bulwark will be the preferred path. He brings stuns, position disruption, guard and riposte. His damage is low, but has high hp and generates block tokens. His main problems will be reach (shield skills only reach 1 and 2). Avoid having him locked in position 1 as he will be unable to use hold the line. Despite his high defence and hp, he will not usually fulfil the role of a tank as you want to use the block tokens on his attacks rather than redirecting hits towards him. Defiant, breacher and the jinx will be the quirks you want for him. As for trinkets, price of pride, calibrating censer, seaman's boot will all generate block tokens. Reverberating redoubt will give him extra actions. Remember to keep his speed below or equal 2 to get the most out of your trinkets.

Runaway: Probably the weakest dancer, but she can still dance. All her paths are viable. Upgraded smokescreen is a really strong skill and you should always use it when available. She brings dot, low direct damage (unless you're using orphan on the first position), conditional healing and utility. Lock defiant, deadly or tactical thinker on her. She is fun nonetheless.

Other heroes that are useful despite not moving:

Vestal: Seraph would be your preferred path, brings a lot of token generation, infinite but long cooldown healing and she is really angry. Lock defiant on her. Be mindful on where you put consecrations to get the most out of them and avoid losing them.

Bird Lady: Also known as Plague doctor. Alchemist is just op.

Flagellant: Keep him on the front ranks. Scourge is a busted path and brings dot, a tank and healing.

Pets: I love shambler and crocodilian. They are probably not always optimal though. Consider what's offered on the first inn and your own preferences when you choose the pet. Crimson tick is also really strong

Some comps i really like.

Aspirant, banneret, nightsworn, yellowhand or rogue: Has decent access to healing, high damage, stress healing, may struggle with reaching position 4 with high damage, making it bad for act 2.

Aspirant, banneret, duelist, yellowhand. Lots of riposte, high risk on the duelist. Similar to the previous

Aspirant, Banneret, Duelist, Bulwark. Lower damage, but stun and more average hp.

Seraph, nightsworn, rogue or yellowhand, banneret. Generate lots of tokens, be happy.

Be creative and create your own funny comps. Also, feel free to ask if you want some insight on a comp

Not the other way around. Back around 2017 I bought the game with the Chrimson Court DLC and said to myself that I would beat the game in bloodmoon, and would settle for nothing else. This is the only difficulty I know the game by (also bought the other DLC when released), and I never beat the final boss. After literal years of on and off trying it just hit me.

I know it's an unforgiving game (I love hard games and challenge runs), and I tend to go into the DLC dungeon rather than gun for the ending, but still, of all the games I have ever played, this one might actually be the only one I will never see the credits for because I could not beat it. Granted, I have begun playing some Nethack (notoriously impossible to beat), so it may not stay that way forever, but I gotta admit it.

I'm pretty new to DD2. It took me what felt like quite a few runs to beat the first boss. Now I've tried the second boss several times, and this second level feels like quite a jump in difficulty, especially because I have to collect a trophy. It seems that collecting a trophy is not a trivial matter.

My question is, if I'm feeling hard stuck do I keep at Level 2, or should I re-do Level 1? Redoing level 1 seems to get me a lot more candles/hour of play. So presumably I could unlock more stuff to get stronger for level 2. Or is that the wrong mentality? Do I just need to git gud and learn to optimize my tactics?

I can't be the only one who's spent so much time on this game and never had their torch go to 0, initiating a cultist combat with an Examplar? Right? Is this common knowledge to everyone?!

When start DD1 there'll be un-skippable Red Hook logo, click the campaign button, click your save file.

Everything seems very complex, I want to try the game but I’m a bit confused. Could I get some starting advice? Also should I turn the dlc off for my first play or is it fine to leave it on?

I recently decided to give DD2 a try again, so I made a new save and started up the game, after finishing the tutorial and the 1st region, when I tried to enter the 2nd Region (Tangle in this case), I would get a Unity loading pop-up during DD2 loading screen, and after a bit the game would crash. This didn't happen when I first played the game, I've tried to continue that expedition like 7 times so far and I always crash during the loading screen, and I'm 99% I don't have any mods. I verified the game files and re-installed the game and it's all the same.

Anyone got any clues at to what eldritch bullshit is going on?

What's the best obtuse comp? Off the bat I'm thinking the back line paths for MaM and Crusader and the more hearty PD, Runaway or Occultist paths.

Is there a way to make this work or is it destined for mediocre everything?

Honestly, I have no idea how to fight her at this point. The fact that her Song of Desire is now completely unaffected by debuff resistance (which I didn't learn until after the fact) makes her fight feel very unfair. I lost my best PD, Occultist, and Leper (who died first), while my Abomination died after the fight ended with him on her side.

Having the Abomination on her side wasn't too bad because my Occultist got consistently good heal rolls until the Leper croaked. However, knowing that her song is now almost a guaranteed hit and unaffected by debuff resistance - which makes the Holy Water strat utterly useless - I don't know how the hell to beat her now. Occultist was on debuff duty in trying to lower her DODGE but the other dumb part is that her Blight Resistance is, IMO, too high at 80%.

Who do I take to kill her?