Hey guys, hope you've had a good weekend.

For the last 14 years or so, I've been working hard on this format, playing and designing mostly on Magic Online. When decks have proved both fun and effective, I've built them in paper as well.

Over time, I've populated my Youtube channel with hundreds and hundreds of games of CEDH, played competitively and mostly 1 vs 1. I figured fans of this format might enjoy my content, particularly if they're aiming to improve their deckbuilding and their play.

Here are links to a few specifically intense games I recently added to the channel, as well as some deck techs. I welcome all comments and feedback, and I'll reply to all constructive inquiries.

Insane game featuring Rograkh/Tevesh vs. Gut and Agent of the Iron Throne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbqaiTfokM

Intense game of Rograkh/Tevesh vs Skithiryx with a huge win streak on the line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnDz5UyYVAc&t=1s

Crazy comeback with Omnath, Locus of Mana vs Imoti, Celebrant of Bounty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmWgGdX56pc

Recent Minsc and Boo deck tech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-0NDpW7rlY&t=3044s

Thanks for your interest!

Return the Favor {R}{R} Instant

Spree (Choose one or more additional costs.)

• {1} — Copy target instant spell, sorcery spell, activated ability, or triggered ability. You may choose new targets for the copy.

• {1} — Change the target of target spell or ability with a single target.

This is a no-brainer for Godo, and might be worth considering for other low-color red shells.

For Godo it's a trigger doubler like Twinflame, Heat Shimmer, Cursed Mirror, Jaxis etc. Let's us grab Hammer of Nazahn first, and then Helm which auto equips from Hammer. Reduces the combo cost to 9.

But it's got a ton of other versatility in one card slot. It's a counterspell, can copy a tutor, redirect removal. It just does a lot for a single card slot in red.

Magda might like it to copy someone's dockside ETB and win at instant speed, or reduce the need for treasures by doubling a Magda search.

I suspect some other low color red decks should give it a look, like rakdos or maybe boros. Doubt we will see this cropping up in 3+ color shells unless there's some other specific synergy. But it's probably a card you should be aware of from OTJ.

In this week’s video, we have an action-packed game with members from the cEDH discord!

Hit us up for a game!

Video: https://youtu.be/ngk7Xu7XM68

Sisay: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/3LytnjqtN0GH0YpvL0vukg

Ms. I’m gonna use all 5 colors like a boss

Malcom/Kediss: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/K4R8FLKs1ECjGeRF3qZIEg

Treasure city and value engines!

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Just wanted to throw out an invite over to the Etali Primal Conqueror Discord. We are about a 100 strong and growing. Come and share you deck lists for feedback, talk about card selections, and generally share in the joy of Dino Stomping a cEDH pod on T1!

Invite Link Here

Anyone know of tournaments in the Boston/Northern Mass area that draw larger crowds? Looking for tournaments that are all day rather than just the typical friday/Saturday night stuff. I’d prefer if there were cash prizes too rather than just store credit. If anything comes to mind, please let me know!

Howdy Y’all! I hope everyone is doing well. I was wondering how (or if) everyone is looking over their interaction/removal package as the meta has slowed a bit and value engines have become more prevalent (TOR, Talion, etc…). Personally, I’m up on more flexible countermagic and a bit more removal. I have a write-up on my thoughts linked here, where I make a bit more a detailed case for doing so. Thoughts?

https://commandersherald.com/cedh-interaction-in-a-slower-meta/

[[Hazezon, Shaper of Sand]] [[Kodama of the East Tree]] [[Arid Archway]] <— New

This combo works through rule of law, arguably the most powerful stax piece. It works at instant speed with things like crop rotation, archdruids charm, and elvish reclaimer. It’s free/uncounterable if Hazezon and Kodama are in play. There’s tons of utility pieces to use with 1/1 tokens, like skull clamp, goblin bombardment, and blasting station. This is also an insane gaea’s cradle deck. Kodama also helps break parity by cheating in an extra piece per turn.

Hazezon just got a huge upgrade.

Ghired, Mirror of the Wilds

RGW

Legendary Creature - Human Shaman

Haste

Nontoken creatures you control have "Tap: Create a token that's a copy of target token you control that entered the battlefield this turn."

3/3

I'm not sure if this is gonna be a competitive deck, but I figured it might have at least some fringe use, and his ability is so open ended that there has to be something cool to do with it. He's in the colors for getting extra tokens from [[parallel lives]] and related cards. My first thought was if you use cards that make token copies of other permanents, like [[helm of the host]], [[bramble sovereign]], etc, you can start making token copies of any creature with good ETB effects. Being able to make loads of token copies of [[Dockside Extortionist]] is a hilarious mental image.

[[Midnight Guard]] can be used to make infinite copies of any token creature. Tap guard to make a token creature, that creature causes Guard to untap. [[Village Bell-Ringer]] and [[Hyrax Tower Scout]] both work too, if you can make them into tokens first. Making infinite dudes, there's payoffs with [[blasting station]], there's probably ways to set up making a ton of [[craterhoof behemoth]] tokens too as another finisher.

I'm sure there's loads more to do with this guy that I'm not seeing atm. Right now I think there's probably too many moving parts to make it a super high-tier cEDH deck, but I think there's some cool potential in here, and I'm curious what else people might think of that I've missed.

Have anyone’s eyes been on a CEDH viable commander from OTJ?

A buddy and I are looking for some cedh players or playgroups to jam some games with. Went up to ttd recently and no one was playing cedh so thought I'd better ask reddit lol

Hello!! After seeing the new Izzet precon commander for outlaws of thunder junctions, I wanted to try to build it as a cEDH deck. I wanted advice about what the deck needs to be cEDH viable as a commander

Please see for the deck list: https://archidekt.com/decks/7191482/stella_lee_sharp_shooter

As the commander isn’t out I haven’t had a chance to pilot it, but a LGs near me just started cEDH nights so I’m hoping to try it out when I get it. My budget for individual cards is 50 bucks so please let me know if I’m missing anything

I'm working on a project in regards to cEDH, and in that regard I'm trying to figure out what archetypes there exist in the format.

The Fandom wiki article (yeah, apparently cEDH have one of those???) have them as:

Major archetypes:

• Turbo Naus/Turbo
• Midrange
• Stax/Hatebears
• Control

And then in minor archetypes they have:

• Polymorph
• Tempo
• Reanimator
• Hulk
• Storm
• Evolution

I'd argue there's also:

• Winconless
• Odball as "minor" archetypes.

Am I missing any here? Does the "minor" and "major" distinction make sense to people? Lemme know your thoughts, and especially if I'm missing any archetypes

Edit to add - the project I'm working on is a website/database like the DDB but with a focus on fringe.

Archetypes are good to have as tags for easy overview and for building a search feature around

Edit 2: as a commenter said "minor archetype" is much better described as "Strategy"

Hi there!

I recently got into CEDH, and it's been a nice experience so far. I started piloting Krrik, which is really fun, but evetually I got sick of being KO'ed by a well timed counter. So I managed to put together a Najeela deck, which is basically the Pongo list (https://www.moxfield.com/decks/jT8Y9X4tlUmeNZ2AjkD1Vg) , but with 4 budget related adjustments:

1. Swapped LED for [[Mox Amber]]
2. Swaped [[Mox Diamond]] for [[Force of Negation]]
3. Swapped [[Intuition]] for [[An Offer You Can't Refuse]]

However, after 15 games with the deck, I still find myself not being able to pilot the deck properly. Mulligans are always hard due to the fixing, Najeela gets hated out of the board all the time, and the deck's combo lines are hard to pivot into. Does anyone have any advice on how to pilot this deck besides "git gud"? I would be very thankful, I'm really struggling here. Thanks!

Kaervek, the Punisher - 1BB

Legendary Creature - Human Warlock

Whenever you commit a crime, exile up to one target black card from your graveyard and copy it. You may cast the copy. If you do, you lose 2 life. (Targeting opponents, anything they control, and/or cards in their graveyards is a crime. Copies of permanent spells become tokens.)

3/3

Monoblack, commit a crime to give a black card in your grave Flashback.

It's a strict upgrade to [[Toshiro Umezawa]] (not a cEDH commander, just the most comparable option in black). With [[Katilda and Lier]] (the next closest comparison I can think of) seeing fringe play, I'm curious if this has legs.

My initial thoughts are going towards cheap spot removal and/or targeted discard effects, which should allow us to double up on tutors without being mana intensive. [[Thoughtseize]] and [[Raven's Crime]] aren't worth it on their own, but them sticking Flashback onto our important cards is promising.

Additionally, you can reattempt wins after being stopped if you have the mana for it and the game goes long. I play in a Stax-heavy meta, so this is definitely relevant for my playgroup.

Speaking of Stax, the deck will also be running hate pieces like [[Chains of Mephistopheles]] (a personal favorite of mine), [[Desolation]], [[Contamination]], etc.

For finishers, I'm thinking [[Professor Onyx]] + [[Chain of Smog]], with [[Bloodchief Ascension]] + [[Mindcrank]] serving as the backup. If there are better alternatives, I'm open to ideas.

Here is the list I have so far. I was originally going for High Power Casual instead of cEDH, so please excuse the obvious cuts I've overlooked while I'm switching it over.

1UBR 2/5

MENACE

whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player, you get that many additional upkeep steps after this phase.

Discuss! This effect is unique enough that it's probably worth trying. Courts are obviously value here, and cards like mechanized production become infinitely more easy to abuse. Which other effects do you see? It's Grixis, so definitely usable, if not S tier.

Edit : a quick look tells me that Darksteel reactor, mechanised production, hellkite tyrant and chance encounter are slightly off; but could work. However, a FUN card that could make it work... Triskaidekaphile! There's no way that thing survives a full rotation, for sure, but is it impossible to keep it alive for a turn ? That's another beast.

Edit Here is my base list in a VERY WiP state.

https://youtu.be/bL-8hmP4dNw

cEDH is a complex format, and today we're going over some of the mistakes players regularly make. From rules issues newer players might not understand, to tips and tricks with format staples experienced ones may not know, we're going over it all. First, I break down some types of issues that apply to rules in general like targeting, priority, and understanding triggers. Then I go over some card specific tips and interactions with a ton of cEDH staples.

Let me know down below what mistakes you see players make!

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Archmage's Newt

{1}{U}

Creature — Salamander Mount

Whenever Archmage's Newt deals combat damage to a player, target instant or sorcery card in your graveyard gains flashback until end of turn. The flashback cost is equal to its mana cost. That card gains flashback {0} until end of turn instead if Archmage's Newt is saddled.

Saddle 3

2/2

This definitely looks more like a Tasigur card than the other one. If Tymna can get through, this one should also, right?

Right?

Kambal, Stern Mayor" {1}{W}{B} Legendary Creature — Human Advisor

Whenever one or more tokens enter the battlefield under an opponent’s control, create a tapped copy of each of them. This ability triggers only once each turn.

Whenever one or more tokens enter the battlefield under your control, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.

2/4

So this guy is an outlet for Abdel Adrian loops as well as Painters Servant + OG Teysa. It can run a decent stax package as well as crazy value engines like tithe and Lotho. You get necropotence, black tutors, and white control. With a low enough curve, Ad Nauseum is viable here.

Definitely not S Tier, but definitely fringe viable imo. I always get excited for cool Orzhov drops.

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/234/taii-wakeen-perfect-shot

Taii Wakeen, Perfect Shot {R}{W} Legendary Creature — Human Mercenary

Whenever a source you control deals noncombat damage to a creature equal to that creature’s toughness, draw a card.

{X}, {T}: If a source you control would deal noncombat damage to a permanent or player this turn, it deals that much damage plus X instead.

Boros holds it back for sure but this looks at least brewable. Card advantage, conditional infinite mana outlet, and burn enabler all in the command zone for 2 mana is pretty good. The ability being for all non creature damage for the rest of the turn opens up some fun storm potential as well.

Hello,

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Right now I have two izzet decks and I want to make one cEDH (Krarkishima) and the other fringe cEDH (Locust god). I want to know what cards would be used to optimize both decks. Budget is hopefully under 50 per card, I cannot afford cards like wheel of fortune or gilded drake for the time being. My playgroup is playing high powered winota stax, yuriko, and a fringe vhal deck.

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Any advice would be very appreciated

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Krarkishima: https://archidekt.com/decks/6645655/feeding_gremlins_cereal_after_midnight

Locust God: https://archidekt.com/decks/4654551/locust_god

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https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ucxtUdG9VE6xRdXcB-_VzA

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I've been playing cEDH for about a year now, and I've recently taken an interest in finding fringe commanders and building with new ideas that nobody has discovered yet. I created an outline for a [[Magar of the Magic Strings]] Rakdos Control deck, aiming to leverage Magar's ability to repeatedly cast spells out of your graveyard for continuous removal and control of the board, until finding either a one-card combo with [[Savage Beating]], or as a backup, either [[Dualcaster Mage]] combos or [[Wheel of Fortune]] + [[Lion's Eye Diamond]] + [[Underworld Breach]] to mill your deck and use Praetor's Grasp to steal an opponent's combo win. This is something I just finished outlining last night and I'm looking for suggestions on how to improve the deck, a second set of eyes if you will. Notably, my playgroup's typical decks are [[Winota, Joiner of Forces]] and [[Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy]], but I'm not super concerned about building the deck particularly to counter these. Just figured including my meta would be helpful.

I'm not particularly worried about budget. My playgroup is proxy-friendly.

Please note that I'm fully aware this is just worse [[Kess, Dissident Mage]], and I chose Magar specifically for the challenge of building Rakdos in cEDH using an unpopular commander. Any suggestions or questions are appreciated, thanks!

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We have a new cEDH Gameplay Episode featuring special guest FreedomWaffle! If you enjoy the video, please like, subscribe, and share.
https://youtu.be/YKSH1jI19Qc

list: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/HmiNSmFXj0ypN01fvY_Waw

Recently I’ve been taking a small break from Florian and instead toying around with [[Extus, Oriq Overlord]] at the helm of a classic mardu turbo shell.

Extus offers a unique engine as well as an infinite mana outlet in the command zone. He enables more flexibility for entomb effects, has powerful synergy with some staple creatures in the format (Dockside, Ranger Captain, Dauthi), and possesses many noteworthy synergies with infrequently played cards (as do many commanders).

The greatest issue with Extus will be that your value engine, should you be leaning back on it after failing a naus, requires extra setup. Extus as a value piece possesses a low floor and high ceiling - it can generate a large amount of advantage, but requires additional resources to set up compared to something like Tymna.

Some notable inclusions:

[[Children of Korlis]]

• Powerful synergy with Bolas’s Citadel and Necropotence, and can be utilized multiple times in the same turn with Extus’s recursion.

[[Dauthi Voidwalker]]

• Partly a meta call. Dauthi usually won’t show up in turbo lists, but using its ability potentially multiple times is very powerful.

[[Street Wraith]]

• Despite hurting off of ad nauseam, Wraith more than makes up for it in its various uses. It’s not only a great enabler for Extus, but can also help with Bolas’s Citadel, as well as making better use of topdeck tutors.

[[Unmarked grave]]

• Usually used to fire up Extus, but can also help assemble breach lines.

[[Village Rites]]

• Pitching an unnecessary creature for card advantage isn’t bad at all. Useful with dockside.

[[Worthy Cause]]

• A unique combo with Dockside and Extus that has more synergy than [[meticulous excavation]]. Since sacrificing the creature is part of the cost of casting the spell, it will be in your graveyard by the time you receive your magecraft trigger.

And some considerations:

[[Doom Whisperer]]

• A hard to counter life sink that fills the graveyard for Extus. Works best with Children of Korlis and Past in Flames.

[[Past in Flames]]

• Similar in functionality to [[Yawgmoth’s Will]], only it doesn’t disable breach lines or extus loops. Works well with Doom Whisperer.

[[Soul Partition]]

• A removal spell that can also let us reuse Dockside. Replaces lightning bolt once I either fix my printer or get my hands on one.

That’s most of what i’ve got for now. I believe extus is a capable commander, even if it’s generally worse than a tymna pairing, and can pull off plenty of tricks to snag many games.

If you have feedback, please speak your mind. Whether it be questions about the deck, specific cards, or other inquiry, I’d love to answer.

Thanks!

Hey everyone!

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Welcome to Free Talk Friday! Is there anything you've been meaning to talk about that doesn't quite deserve its own thread? Do you wanna tell us about the good or bad beats you've had this week? Do you wanna show off some cool new cards you acquired for your deck? Or do you just wanna say hi? This is the place. Everyone's welcome here! As always, be nice to each other.

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Feel free to talk about non-EDH topics as well.

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That's all for now. Have fun!

It is a very short game! I just wanted to familiarize myself with the editing software I am using.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS-wkmHs__M&t=1s&ab_channel=RhysticTrigger

edit: New link.

[[Ghired, Mirror of the Wilds]]

This card feels very similar to me tk Kiki jiki. Any potential this could be a commander with like pod effects and pull out [[zealous conscripts]] or something similar to make infinite hasty bois? The ability to copy your dockside seems very valuable as well

What do people think of this? [[Kellan, the kid]]

GWU

Flying. Lifelink.

Whenever you cast a spell from anywhere other than your hand, you may cast a permanent spell with equal or lesser mana value from your hand. If you don't, you may put a land from your hand onto the battlefield.

3/3

To me this seems like a way to make a lot of the adventure/rebound effect cedh viable. The land bit is so strong and the permanent part is also really strong.

https://mythicspoiler.com/otj/cards/smugglerssurprise.html

Smuggler's Surprise - instant

G

Spree

+2 - Mill four cards. You may put up to two creature and/or land cards from among the milled cards into your hand.

+4G - You may put up to two creature cards from your hand onto the battlefield.

+1 - Creatures you control with power 4 or greater gain hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.

Seems great in Tasigur and the rates on each ability are pretty good. Not a format staple but could definitely see play.

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