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Pir/Toothy in the current meta?

Anyone played [[Pir]] and [[Toothy]] since MH3? The new Bloomburrow card [[Lilysplash Mentor]] seems dope for this deck so I brewed up a list: https://archidekt.com/decks/8429741

Not sure if this is anything close to being a meta contender but the Toothy/flicker interaction is always a powerful one. Mostly in my playgroup I'm seeing blue farm, Nadu, a lot of grixis of various types.

The goal here is to draw a fuckton of cards with Iso/Rev and the one ring and/or flickering Toothy. Winning with lab man, Thoracle, hullbreaker horror loops (plus Narset/Wheels for funsies). Kinnan/basalt/Thrasios lines as well. Not too difficult to pull off given the number or creature tutors available in these colors.

Obviously including the classic Displacer Kitten to flicker Toothy plus a few one-off flicker effects to draw a ton of cards. I've seen some lists that are running additional counters effects like Hardened Scales but this seems like a waste of a slot to me.

Also adding light stax pieces that Toothy doesn't care about like Graf cage and Torpor orb.

Green is fun, and so is drawing cards. Is my post long enough yet, mods?

26 Comments
2024/07/17
05:55 UTC

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KraumBrulee (Kraum and Vial) Grixis CEDH Decklist Help

Hello everyone, this is a deck I have been working on for a long long time (buying the cards and acquiring the proxies) and am trying to get as CEDH adjacent as I can with some stipulations. It started out as an Obeka brute chronologist deck and as you will see has warped into a full blown CEDH decklist more or less. I am hoping to see if anyone has some suggestions on my balance of mana rocks to lands and my sorcery/instant list.

The only stipulations I have is that as of this time I am not looking to run Thoracle combo, my current win conditions are dualcaster loops, kiki loops, and infinite turns with sundial/isochron/final fortune which is the final remnant of my obeka deck and I would like to keep it this way. Hence why I state the deck was CEDH adjacent. I understand that this may not be in the true spirit of CEDH but I do not play tournaments and am okay with a decklist that is at 95% full power.

So please let me know any thoughts about my mana base and my instant/sorcery suite. You can see some of the other cards I own and have been reviewing in the sideboard section at the bottom of the decklist.

I appreciate any help or ideas you can provide in advanced. Budget is not an issue, the only cards I do not own are the original dual lands, mox diamond and mana crypt. I have the gold bordered cards and proxies for the cards previously mentioned above.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/sGtJftEZ8E6Q5cNGRoKt0A

5 Comments
2024/07/17
05:21 UTC

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It's Woot Woot Wednesday! Come Share Your Good News!

Hi there everyone!

Welcome to Woot Woot Wednesday! Use this space for sharing all the sweet stuff going on with your games.

Did you have an awesome play in a game?

A super deep stack of counterspells?

Pick up some sweet bling in the mail?

Make or get a custom proxy you want to show off?

Share your stories and pictures here in this thread!

Good vibes only!

1 Comment
2024/07/17
04:01 UTC

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Blue Farm Need Help

I play Tymna/Kraum, and Im wondering for a flex slot what I should add to the deck

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/gaibSJsoV0yTWrU8BVuB9w

I currently have [[Boromir, Warden of the Tower]] in my creature slot as a flex. He has a plus 22% wr through the cedh analytics website meta game and I’ve seen him recommended. However, there are other creatures I am considering

  1. [[Faerie Mastermind]], the ability to draw me 2-3 cards per turn cycle is okay and evasion for tymna is good but this card doesn’t shut off an opponent and could be quite inconsistent depending on the board state.
  2. [[Archivist of Oghma]], he could give me up to 6 cards if he comes down t1 and everyone’s running fetches but in my LGS that’s sometimes not the case so he could prove inconsistent.
  3. [[Professional face-breaker]], I’m not gonna lie.. this card is somewhat of a pet card for me — 2/3 MENACE that could potentially make 3 treasures on my turn seems really good.. I struggle to see his downside and I’m not sure why he isn’t included as often in top decks.
  4. [[Phyrexian Metamorph]], just another clone that could act as (mainly) [[dockside extortionist]] and [[the one ring]], however other than dockside, this guy just most often comes down as a ramp piece and much like faerie mastermind is heavily dependent on board state.

Are there any creatures I’ve missed that could potentially be amazing or something you guys have tried that I could look into? Should I switch out Boromir for any of the mentioned cards?

(Side note: planning on putting in final fortune just haven’t done it yet)

8 Comments
2024/07/17
02:01 UTC

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What is a good first CEDH deck for beginners?

So I'm new to CEDH. I've played casual edh for a while and I wanna give CEDH a try. I have one deck lined up but I wanna hear your guys thoughts about what makes a good CEDH deck for beginners of the format? Any thoughts and reccomendations? My playstyle is playing stompy boys and attacking

16 Comments
2024/07/17
00:59 UTC

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Can Baylen Turn Naya Around In cEDH?

Primer

Naya struggles in cEDH given it's lack of Black and Blue. Generally Speaking there are limited options when it comes to playing these colors competitively, [[Rocco, Cabaretti Caterer]] is considered the best cEDH commander in this wedge right now, but I think [[Baylen, the Haymaker]] will change that. Baylen adds game-winning payoffs for any token generator in the format, a hugely powerful set of abilities. This deck list focuses on 'Turboing' into a combo and winning from there. I'm using 'turbo' lightly here as I think the deck may be a bit too slow to be considered turbo.

I wrote out some [[Splinter Twin]] and [[Presence of Gond]] combos, but ultimately decided that they were too slow due to summoning sickness. Then for [[Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker]] it felt too expensive to be viable. Ultimately, I settled on [[Dockside Extortionist]] + [[Emiel the Blessed]] / [[Temur Sabertooth]] with [[Dualcaster Mage]] + [[Twinflame]] / [[Heat Shimmer]] for backup.

16 Comments
2024/07/16
22:22 UTC

0

New Combo with [[Dour Port-Mage]] (Spoiler)

!Dour Port-Mage 1U!<
!Creature - Frog Wizard!<
!Whenever one or more other creatures you control leave the battlefield without dying, draw a card.!<
!1U, Tap: Return another target creature you control to its owner's hand.!<
!"Find your mooring and stop clogging the shipping lanes!"!<

This plus [[Dockside Extortionist]] and [[Intruder Alarm]] or [[Staff of Domination]]

https://www.mythicspoiler.com/blb/cards/dourportmage.jpg

12 Comments
2024/07/16
22:13 UTC

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[BLB] Into the Flood Maw (Spoiler)

Nothing to see here. Just the new best blue removal in the entire game.

!"Into the Flood Maw" U!<

!Instant!<

!Gift a tapped Fish (You may promise an opponent a gift as you cast this spell. If you do, they create a tapped 1/1 blue Fish creature token before its other effects.)!<

!Return target creature an opponent controls to its owner's hand. If the gift was promised, instead return target nonland permanent an opponent controls to its owner's hand.!<

https://www.mythicspoiler.com/blb/cards/intothefloodmaw.jpg!<

21 Comments
2024/07/16
21:56 UTC

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Gev, Scaled Scorch - Viable?

Gev, Scaled Scorch

Goes essentially infinite with a sac outlet and Murderous Redcap, or with Putrid Goblin and Skirk Prospector. Most pieces are only 1-2 mana and can be grabbed with recruiter.

I realize that Rakdos is somewhat limiting and you need a way to deal damage as well…

Thoughts?

14 Comments
2024/07/16
21:37 UTC

50

Is Magda going full turbo?

2 new cards have been spoiled in bloomburrow that are changeling artifact creatures. Three tree mascot (2 drop) and barkform harvester (3 drop) replaces elixer of immortality. I have always played a more mid range stax style. But with all these artifact dwarves coming out recently such as roaming throne. Do we just drop most stax and go full turbo at this point? All 1 drop dwarves and all artifact dwarves?

This is just for discussion. I personally prefer the mid range stax way. I'm just curious of people thoughts on how speed can be an option with 14 artifact dwarf possibilities when you include cursed mirror, the liquid metals and transmogrant.

32 Comments
2024/07/16
18:25 UTC

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Inalla, tips and tricks?

Hi,

Ive been tweaking a inalla list and was wondering if you guys could give me some feedback on it.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/309cynYXdkaFqUe8AV-qEQ

The list feels quite good, not a tournament winner, but i do feel like it can win any pod if im on my best game.

What im doubthing:

  • Mana Drain: if it goes of and i get to my turn, i will have the mana to win. But double blue for a single counter feels like alot.
  • Fierce Gaurdianship: If i do cast inalla, its because the game is slowed down and al win attempts are stopped and hands are empty. Maybe flare of denial in its place?
  • City of traitors: most of the time its a one round afair, and if i dont go off that round, im screwed
  • Daze: while once in a while it may slow someone down, it feels like such a setback and while i stop someone else from winning its not winning me the game. Its allows someone else to take it, because if they see daze, the know i got nothing else.

Anyone can help me with cards to fill those slots with?

11 Comments
2024/07/16
17:53 UTC

0

Building my First Bant Cedh Deck

I'm looking to make a bant Cedh deck with the commander [Helga, Skittish Seer] thats coming out in the next Bloomburrow set. I figured I'd Build it as a Food Chain deck but aside from that, im not sure on what i can do with it. If you guys can help me out with a Bant Cedh Deck Template that would be much appreciated.

For context, I come from a more Simic Background. So I love being able to play Turbo/midrange. But for this deck i would like to try some new things:

  1. Im looking to make the deck as a Midrange Deck.
  2. Im not used to playing stax, since this is my first time playing white in general, but its welcomed.
  3. I thought about having an enchantress package for the deck, since having more power onto my commander not only gives me access to swing for commander damage, but it also indirectly gives me more mana via my commander's skill.
3 Comments
2024/07/16
17:01 UTC

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Gyruda a good cedh?

I love this deck so much in high powered edh. When i try to upgrade it to cedh. Its actually not bad. I thought it would be a disaster. Anyway, for gyruda/cedh players out there, how many clones should i run in my gyruda for cedh, i think as of now i have 9-11 clones i cant remember. And yeah i run thassa oracle and demonic consultation, and mortuary too.

If there is any tips, would love to hear your insights.

25 Comments
2024/07/16
13:29 UTC

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Aragorn Aluren Combo Tuning

So I'm working on what I would call a "tier 1.5" deck idea featuring Aragorn, the Uniter as its commander, and using Aluren as it's main win condition. I think I have a pretty decent package set up with this list, but I'm not terribly experienced with Aluren outside of Legacy play.

Do any of you fine folks have suggestions as to what I might be able to fit in or take out to optimize the deck? In some proxied play-testing, it's worked pretty well, but I'd like to get a more objective opinion / set of ideas.

Thanks!

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/0gb0uafZ1Eadyse9UZOjHg

17 Comments
2024/07/16
13:14 UTC

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Tevesh/thrasios

Im looking for a deck that utilizes gaea's cradle as it is my favorite card and this deck looks like it would be pretty good with a loyalty ability that makes tokens

I havent heard or seen this deck alot and was wondering how it fares in the meta from people who play it

Thanks!

5 Comments
2024/07/16
13:04 UTC

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Dour Port Mage

https://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/dour-port-mage/

A big piece for blink decks like Aminatou, I can see this making a lot of blink decks start to show up.

10 Comments
2024/07/16
11:09 UTC

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Moxfield Bug?

Does anyone else have an issue on Moxfield where the group by type and tag option only groups by tag? Maybe I am misunderstanding the term but I assumed it would that is I for example had a creature and an artifact, or any combination of card types, with the same tag it would separate them. Instead it just throws all the cards together in one group for just the tag, regardless of type. Forgive me if I am missing something obvious and am being dumb here but I don't understand why it doesn't just say group by tag if it doesn't also separate the card types.

1 Comment
2024/07/16
07:37 UTC

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Deck Feedback for Tasigur, the Golden Fang

Decklist Here

I started playing in Fate Reforged, so I would like to make Tasigur as competitive as possible.

Shop allows for proxies in the non-tournament CEDH pods hosted weekly, so budget is a complete non-issue.

As it stands, the deck is trying to use Tasigur as a one card win condition with [[Neoform]] finding Scholar of the Lost Trove and eventually [[Hoarding Broodlord]] The deck also can win using Tasigur as an infinite mana outlet, which I have [[Devoted Druid]] and Effigy combo, IsoRev, and [[Hullbreaker]] lines which I can also Pod into. Most of these lines finish by drawing the entire deck and winning with [[Thassa’s Oracle]] but with infinite mana you can also loop [[Orcish Bowmasters]] with Hullbreaker Horror to finish off each opponent.

The deck is supposed to be a fast combo deck backed by some powerful card draw engines. I’m sure its worse than blue farm variants, but again, I would like to make Tas work. I feel like the deck has been running smoothly and would like to keep the win conditions as they are now, but would love feedback on the rest, interaction suites, removal, etc.

Metagame is: Kinnan, Thrasios/Rograk, RogSi, Blue Farm, Sisay, and some others.

Having played it; I feel like the deck can be good, but can also end up at times getting Tasigur out early with nothing to do and nothing but mana, especially if you keep a hand with a tutor that gets countered. Tasigurs card advantage is slow, and I would not like to go towards a version that capitalizes on it with Seedborn; the deck felt very weak in that configuration!

5 Comments
2024/07/16
03:56 UTC

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Optimize My Blue Farm Deck!

  1. https://archidekt.com/decks/8352739/blue_farm
  2. No budget
  3. Usually play at LGS so blind meta: Sisay, Kinnan, Najeela, etc
  4. Get ahead early and combo with underworld breach or thoracle, can grind midgame if needed
  5. Willing to change anything
  6. Have not tested the deck yet

Some cards I am skeptical about:
Smothering Tithe

Culling the Weak

Borne Upon a Wind

Talismans

Phyrexian Metamorph

Phantasmal Image

Final Fortune

Fire Covenant

3 Comments
2024/07/16
03:35 UTC

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Looking for advice on this Orvar cEDH list.

I don't have the time in my life to do tournaments, I just have a lot of friends that play cEDH and I want a deck that can hang well enough to have fun. Plus I like him as a commander and playing Orvar in casual, even high power casual, just feels unfair.

This is entirely proxies, so budget is irrelevant. The meta is..all over the place. Whatever my friends feel like playing and have built/brought with them.

The main idea of the deck is to get Whim of volrath down to a single blue with buyback, than make infinite islands on the endstep right before my turn into infinite value on that turn, hopefully a draw engine to draw my deck and play thassa's Oracle. Making infinite peregrine drakes with whim or clockspinning or just infinite mana with treachery are backup plans, throne of eldrainse goes infinite with orvar and whim by itself, colockspinning needs one cost reducer.

I've played it at a couple of commander nights, but a 3 man pod against a turbo Nadu and a turbo Godo...didn't go well for me.

https://www.topdecked.com/decks/orvar-cedh/f58dfe55-784b-4402-bc17-da75b604481b

14 Comments
2024/07/16
01:59 UTC

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Help Optimizing Niv

Hey y'all!

I have a tournament at my LGS on August 10th and was looking for some help optimizing my list.

I'm going into a completely unknown meta, but it's supposed to be cEDH. Up to 10 proxies are allowed.

I am currently running a "Budget" Niv-Mizzet, Parun Blue Moon list.

The goal of the list is control the board until I can pull off one of the [[Curiosity]] combos. I love the idea of using stax pieces to slow my opponents down, but if that is not optimal for unknown metas I can happily change that!

My budget for upgrades is around $350 and will be ordered over a couple of weeks.

Thank y'all in advance for all tips, tricks, and optimizations! Also hopefully I have formated the post properly

Edit: I've also been playing one form of Niv-Mizzet control since I got into commander in 2016, just not in a fully competitive format

17 Comments
2024/07/16
01:23 UTC

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Webcam Tournament Sunday

Hello Friends!

We are excited for the next event in the Arcane Series. It is this Sunday at 11am Eastern Time.

The event is proxy friendly!

You can register for the event and learn all about it here: https://topdeck.gg/event/Tk4TdxwBlDQmY2yFbXZO

You can join our Discord at https://discord.gg/Jkn5FpTASv

We hope to see everyone there! The more people that attend the better it is.

3 Comments
2024/07/16
01:22 UTC

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Yuriko Primer!

Been playing Yuriko for 4 years and fell in love with this deck a long time ago. With the new inclusions and complexities to this deck I wrote up a text primer! If you like please give it a like on Moxfield or drop me a follow, it means a lot!

I want to credit the Yuriko discord from having. great jumping off point on there primer, it’s very detailed and great for formatting!

This list focuses on resolving Thoracle lines but differs with some backup wincons that some people seem to cut. I’ve been seeing a ton of positive results with the inclusion of Doomsday and Nanogene Conversion in this deck, especially in our midrange meta now.

This list is not including Gush, Flare of Malice or Sheoldred the Apocolypse like many decks, while fun, i feel like they take away from the strategy!

Open to feedback and opinions! Love hearing people’s thoughts!

Happy flipping!

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Lo9INgdoeEqeYrflZ7Mcpw

23 Comments
2024/07/15
22:54 UTC

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IsoRev and Hullbreaker Horror in Raffine?

I'm working on upgrading my Raffine deck, in the hopes of it one day becoming my first cEDH deck (currently just high power, working on getting good counterspell package mostly, as well as some staples like Drannith Magistrate or Grand Abolisher, along with Rhystic Study. My play group doesn't allow proxies unless you own at least one copy of a card). Looking at lists online, I see a lot of people obviously using Thoracle + Demonic Consultation, but not really much other 'instant' win cons? I'm curious if it would be viable to include [[Hullbreaker Horror]] or even [[Isochron Scepter]] / [[Dramatic Reversal]] in the deck, along with replacing a couple of the fringe creatures with a [[Basilica Screecher]] or something (Extort keyword would be possible to drain enemies while doing IsoRev/Horror loop right?). In my high power I've experimented around even including Sun Titan, whose ETB allows us to bring Isochron Scepter back from the graveyard.

From the little knowledge I have, I think IsoRev just might be too fragile against counterplay? Is this not the type of deck to usually include these types of combos? Any insight is helpful

3 Comments
2024/07/15
21:01 UTC

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Blue Farm Uses Steal Enchantment to Grind Midrange.. Should Other Lists Follow Suit?

Steal Enchantment has been seen in some extremely successful uFarm lists, including the winner of Cowtown Throwdown (Shoutout Isaac)! This potent piece is seeing success in one of the best decks in the format, but other decks haven't quite seemed to follow suit. In this week's episode, Kyle tries to convince us that it's time your blue deck to consider Steal Enchantment.

What other CEDH commanders could benefit from running Steal Enchantment?

https://youtu.be/jMLylGvLS9c?si=j7k80MD4kJb3dpin

35 Comments
2024/07/15
20:32 UTC

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Is Kitsa, Otterball Elite good enough for cEDH?

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1e40ap1/blbkitsa_otterball_elite/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Spell copying ability seems really good and draw + discard ability could be used as a way to empty deck for Oracle finisher.

28 Comments
2024/07/15
20:14 UTC

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First cEDH event hosted on Brainstorm TMS by Bastion Games

Hello again we are back with some spice, Bastion Games have kindly let us use their event as a showcase so lets see what the system can do!

First of many!

On Saturday Bastion Games in Chilliwack hosted an cEDH tournament on on our platform Brainstorm TMS! There were a total of 17 players in the event which was fully designed and organized on the system. The tournament was Swiss with a cut to top 10, a fairly popular structure for cEDH events. Have a look here

For those who are curious how an event of that structure would be designed on the platform here are the details...

🔨 Build it how you like it

The event was built as a 3 stage design with a stage for Swiss/Top 10 and Top 4, this makes for a very clear stepped structure where byes can be allocated to the top 2 quite easily to take full advantage of the auto pod generation strategies for each stage with auto qualify moving players between stages with ease. Take a look at each stage below.

Swiss

Top 10

Top 4

The primary auto pod generation strategy used for this event was standings based with quad grouping which is very effective in ensuring pods are evenly balanced based on their stage standings.

🤔 What did we learn

We received a lot of suggestions based on how the event went, main issues were UI related where seat ordering was not very clear and many flows could have been simplified for the players. We have changed around our feature list based on this feedback in hopes to make future events much smoother to run! Player result submission has been moved to the top of the list which will come with a redesign of some UI for mobile improvements!

🤜 Join us!

Hopefully this will show that the system can pull through on an event and its only the start for us! Please join us on Discord. We have recently made a test server available for anyone to practice with fake events before running live so there is no risk in trying it out in full, details on our discord.

Finally a MASSIVE thanks to BG Nate and the team at Bastion Games, it takes major courage to trust a full event to a totally new system so we appreciate the support. If you find yourself in Chilliwack please check out the store. They will also be hosting an cEDH RCQ+ event on the 3rd of August with Brainstorm so register now to save your place!

1 Comment
2024/07/15
20:10 UTC

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Which Budget Commander Deck Should I Choose

Have to play on a 500-buck budget due to LGS Rules which call for no proxies. Sadly it's the only one in my area, but I have narrowed down the decks I am looking at to these two:

Malcolm/Kediss: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/8puaLdVjn0OmmvAriXNMmQ
Yuriko: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/7MvGgpPoMkOtZiPoPUzARA

Which one would you pick for a first-timer? I love both of these in Goldfish, but I want advice as to which one to pick for a relative newcomer to CEDH.

38 Comments
2024/07/15
17:38 UTC

0

Competitive Werewolf?

So this just me, and probably just me wanting for my favorite tribe to do well but I love werewolves and would love to see werewolf be CEDH like Tovolar and I think he would work. He has card advantage, he gets werewolf on the field and protects them and does alot of damage.

The only bad thing I can think is that the day and night mechanic which is the day and night mechanic which is the weakest out of there and there is stuff to mitagate that like some artifacts and Tovolar ability but I'm just curious would it be possible. I think I know the answer which is probably a solid no lol

14 Comments
2024/07/15
17:36 UTC

3

Two Time Top Tournament Talion Takes on the Team - Things in the Ice

https://youtu.be/XQx31rp4OTQ?si=RV304tLdDaTTxLAz

Hey folks, we're Things in the Ice and we're back with some more cEDH gameplay! We're 5 friends who compete every week to see who the best cEDH player is at the table.

Today we're joined by our friends Daniel and Eric, the latter of which is a local cEDH tournament grinder! Daniel is bringing back the 5-color combo queen, Sisay! Eric is piloting Talion, a spectacular value and control deck that he has a lot of experience with. Jeremy is on his Cormela brew that can turbo out some very intriguing lines. And Kyle is playing Atraxa, another food chain deck to feed his insatiable hunger!

Thanks so much for checking us out, we appreciate your support!

0 Comments
2024/07/15
15:15 UTC

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