Currently I am building a [[Tymna, the weaver]]/[[Malcolm, keen-eyed navigator]] deck and I thought about adding [[enduring curiosity]] do you think it's good enough. I think it might be worth it because of it's ability to return as an enchantment but with 4 mana it's relatively expensive. So I would be interested what other people think

Hi all , just wanted to know what upgrades do i get for my Pre-Con 40k Calgar Deck?

I bought this deck when it came out and this was my 7th deck before i stopped playing due to work. I just got back since work has been steady and i wanted to know what cards do i get and remove from the deck to optimize it?

Preferably budget upgrades but i dont mind expensive cards either , ill just upgrade it slowly.

For gameplay wise , ive played with this deck a couple of times and it seemed very slow but since its a pre-con deck its expected. I wanted to make this deck a bit faster while utilizing the commanders ability and controlling the opponents cards .

Also the friends and group im up against are usually running Mono Black , Staxs, Mono Red and White/Blue Control. So i need a bit of protection while also being agressive

Thank you for the advice in advance

Thanks for the Advice.

Hello, I've been intrigued by Magda, Brazen Outlaw for a while and I was hoping for some opinions from existing Magda players. I've been perusing different lists that have done well in tournaments, looking for inspiration to improve my own deck, and I have run into a couple questions.

-First, most lists seem to have a decent density of 1 mana dwarves. This seems fairly self-explanatory, but it makes it feel like the game plan is to get Magda out on turn 2, otherwise that dwarf is incapable of creating a treasure token. In my experience, though, Magda seldom makes it through a whole turn cycle, and turn 2 victories are not frequent. How are people using these turn 1 mana dwarves to the greatest effect?

-Second, related to the above, if/when Magda gets removed, how does one recover, especially card-wise? In some of the most successful Magda lists, I don't see much actual card advantage.

-Finally, and I'm sure this is mostly a matter of preference... what do you gamble for?

Hey Folks, as the title says.

Im throwing together a TnT list and im wondering peoples thoughts on trying out Derevi in the list. I havent seen it in any of the top lists for TnT.

But it seems ok as a way to untap ToR , Cradle, dorks,rocks etc.

All my experience with cEDH is in either RogSi or Kinnan so i'm coming to you folks on your opinions . If nothing more than to test at least?

cheers,

Today, we talk about a card that was seen in Joking101's BlueFarm list that topped the SeaDH championship!

Drana and Linvala works as more than just a stax piece. When used properly, you can use your opponent's creatures against them to gain advantage or win the game.

With the rise of creature-based combos, Drana and Linvala is a cool meta pivot to give you an edge against some of the titans of the format: Thrasios, Kinnan, Magda, Sisay, Najeela and more!

What list are you excited to test Drana and Linvala in?

Have you ever won in a unique way by stealing your opponent's abilities?

https://youtu.be/-3RJbkjiNOM?si=qe2llsDk_hqnuRpk

I'm currently building a Fugitive doctor/vislor turlough food chain deck, and the deck has basically no creatures, other than bowmasters. Considering that dorks are more meta now, could Death Match be good enough? Or is 4 mana too much or is it too bad to give opponents power to remove Stax pieces on creatures of other people too?

Hello everybody,

I'm thinking about starting a new deck, and was looking for turbo options outside of rogsi. Options I was considering are glarb, dihada, rakdos the muscle>>>what else am I missing??? Plus, more in general, how do you feel about non rogsi turbo decks after the ban? At my lgs we are all more or less playing midrange and stax, wanted to bring a fresh breath of air!

I'm in the middle of building the 14th doctor and im torn between going 5 color with Vislor to use tutors or staying 4 and getting to use k9 or adric for extra value.

What are peoples thoughts on [[Vadrok Apex of Thunder]] . It's an EDH deck that's been on the back burner for a while now, and like all my back burner brews, I look for any cEDH potential. I see a little bit of potential. Being able to recur some value pieces like [[mystic remora]] and [[rhystic study]], coming back from a combo that got countered [[underworld breach]], being able to use [[brain freeze]] to dig for card instead of just being a combo piece and, of course, the ability to recast tutors.

Unfortunately Vadrok did take a hit with the banning of [[Dockside Extortionist]], losing not only a combo line but also a means to address the mana intensive mutate requirement. This is one of a few issues I can see:

1. Mana intensive; the need to cast Vadrok as well as a creature to mutate on.
2. Getting 2-for-1'd; a Mutated Vadrok is 2 cards combined. Removal hits us harder.
3. The need to run Mutate creatures; outside of [[lore drakkis]], they kinda suck.

The other reason I wanted to measure Vadrok's ability to compete is due to a few combo lines I found, and I didn't want to make another combo EDH deck. The combo line was [[angels grace]] and cards like [[final fortune]] and [[chance for glory]], the later giving my creatures indestructible permanently. Because this was the combo line, I was looking into using [[sunforger]] as the tutor engine. Not only can it assemble a combo, but it can also tutor for protection pieces if need be. However, 4 mana to re-equip each turn isn't the easiest thing to accomplish now that [[mana crypt]] is banned.

Please, if you have any experience or insights with playing with/against Vadrok, I would love to know. Thank you in advance for your input :)

https://youtu.be/gq1GUW31q_0?si=9CikuaoMkriX6m7w

Hey folks, we're Things in the Ice and we're back with some more cEDH gameplay! We're friends who compete every week to see who the best cEDH player is at the table.

This week we have some very special guests: Kyle and Yah from That's A Good Card! If you haven't heard of That's A Good Card, it's a podcast where each week one of the hosts brings a card to discuss and tries to convince the other that the card is good for CEDH. We highly recommend you check it out!

Yah brought an awesome Will/Lucas deck that has some incredible graveyard strategies, Kyle was on Korvold, a lands-matter Jund deck that REALLY impressed, and then Jeremy is on Talion and John is on Tivit!

Thanks so much for checking us out, we appreciate your support!

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This is where im at currently:
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Z4pdWpWh8ECHjXnfXCYcYg

I definitely think that its a lot more interesting at the very least than something like Godo, and considering godo has been around forever and decent I sorta am pretty interested in it.

For the different paths (mostly cuz a-mod):

Reanimate: I think there is a way to build this that is just focused on getting the line at any cost. But considering i dont have many discard/entomb style effects I didnt put in the work to find space for it. Plus if I did go an entomb route, I feel like I would be encouraged to play big dragons which the only one besides broodlord that feels playable is astral dragon since its a double clone on etb and not an attack trigger.

Stax: Honestly I originally intended to go more the stax route, but I couldnt figure out which dimir stax pieces were worth running. I definitely think brainstorm + counterbalance should go in this deck but currently I didnt know how much I should build around that. I do think that version would likely cut naus as its already especially greedy.

Wheels/Draw Hate: Im sorta comboing these together since just wheels are lacking in amount in these colors, but I like this and since it just so happens to hit the best cards in the format im here for it. Unsure how deep I should go here, but I def think the draw hate part is stronger (and easy stax) than the wheels half. Especialy since I cant discard broodlord.

Ad Naus feels super greedy here and I felt like this was the only build (aka not many big dumb dragons) that its playable. But as its not turbo naus it feels super risky with these cmc's.

Also thought that isorev is sorta needed here due to the massive mana requirements but maybe im just wrong. I am a big more newer so I do end up putting isorev into most of my blue decks until I cut them.

Metawise super unsure about this deck in general, but if godo can I dont see why this cant be atleast a fun non-meta deck.

(Its gonna be proxied so def no worries about price)

How much success are you having with blue farm in the current meta? I'm interested to hear from any farm players the problems you are facing at your tables or any notes in general that can help a fellow farmer :)

I played in a smaller tournament and got top 4 with a deck that’s only had 1 other tournament submission (winter)but the tournament has every decklist as unknown. Is that something the location has to fix or is there no hope?

I’m curious as to what deck I should switch to. I’ve been playing Tivit, Kinnan and Veryan Voice of Duality. I enjoy having Kinnan for fun flips and a little more flexible of a plan. Spell slinging is always fun to me, love dumping my hand just to wheel at the end refill and go again next turn.

The problem stems from my Tivit deck, I love Esper to death but the deck seems too slow and too reliant on connecting. Then it feels boring to simply go around for “infinite” turns since unless I get stopped, there’s no stopping the loop. It feels boring and cheesy to me.

I was thinking of switching to either RogSi or Tymana + something or maybe even Shorikai. Let me know what you guys think based on my thoughts.

Went to a local near me held at a LGS, 65 entrants, 5 rounds of Swiss before top 16, judge was there in an official jersey thing. Had an absolute blast and am hooked on tournaments now.

I was playing [[grist, the hunger tide]] based heavily on the grist 12 entombs list from the database, I’ll put my decklist below if anyone is interested. Went 1-2-2, one loss was due to a purely stupid mistake I made and will never make again (didn’t realize walking ballista was an artifact and tried to execute my ballista combo with [[stony silence]] on opponents board) but despite that mistake it was some of the most fun I’ve had playing magic or any game for a long time.

Games where everyone is taking things seriously and passing prio in order on every spell and politicking was such a cool feeling. Almost everyone I played with and talked to was super laid back and cool. Even the draws when the game was staxxed out still felt fun because the table stayed engaged and was looking for outs and ways to work together instead of just hopping on their phones or scooping the way we might playing with friends around my kitchen table.

TLDR: went to my first tournament and had a great time, huge shout out to the cEDH community and if anyone on here is considering finding a local to go to their first tournament but nervous or not sure it’s for you I would highly recommend it.

Decklist: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/uS8SWuBIIkymMmN2hX0fsQ

Through some feedback and 60+ Yuriko games on my old primer i posted in here a few months back, i’ve made some changes that have greatly improved the performance of my version of Yuriko!

I realize in my last primer I made some strong statements without much explanation on my decisions in this deck and received some nice feedback!

Since making my changes i’ve played on a few different cEDH shows, MagicCon and some local cEDH events and have been feeling much better on this version!

I hope you enjoy it, and happy flipping 🥷

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Lo9INgdoeEqeYrflZ7Mcpw

Hello, does anyone know of any chatterfang cedh discord groups?

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We’re back with another fun episode.

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Why is the card tanking? it is around 15 bucks now

As the title said, yesterday I competed in an in person tournament and won. It wasn't a huge tournament so no topdeck.gg or mtgtop16 stats to report. Next year I hope to start grinding the tournament scene so this was a good confidence boost for that. I just wanted to brag about an accomplishment of mine so if you made it this far I'd like to hear about what your first tournament was like

Hello Everybody, finally the time has come many of you have been asking for. Finally I have reached the point and can upload Post September EDH Ban Gameplay videos. The journey was long but we are here so enjoy this video, subscribe to the channel to not miss the all new stuff coming soon and who knows, maybe watch some old one for nostalgic value xixi. Welcome to December everyone!

Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phwGIG2RjX4

Hi, Brago was always a commander I wanted to play, but back when he was a thing in cEDH I didn't have a playgroup where I could play him. Now I started playing cEDH and I feel like even I completely forgot his existence... do you think he can still be playble in some way?

I'm working on getting an Izzet cEDH deck. I'm unsure what the commander(s) will be(suggestions appreciated) but I'm starting with the land base first. I'm unfamiliar with how common non basic land hate is but I know that utility lands have become so damn strong in the last 3 years.

What are the must haves for Izzet decks outside of all the usual suspect dual lands? It's not really a ramp color, so having a large number of basics doesn't seem helpful, yeah? In any case I appreciate any help. Thank you.

https://www.archidekt.com/decks/9381648/pain_in_the_masses

The idea of the deck is to quickly assemble a combination of ritual mana, copy effects and burn damage to nuke the table, using Kess to be able to be a bit more risky/wasteful and to abuse graveyard spellslinging

Are there ways to more efficiently deal direct damage? Better drawing methods I could be using? Other sorceries/instants/synergies that might have been overlooked?

I'm open to any suggestions and other commanders if they still allow for a similar play pattern

So I have competed locally at $100 competitive events and in my local playground semi competitively for about a year now. My main deck is a $100 Marwyn deck, I’ve also played Najeela, Urza, and Magda. I’ve also helped friends on various other decks as well. I was wanting to dive into cEDH gameplay but am finding that I am having a hard time building a cEDH deck that works. I’ve heard that learning how to play a cEDH deck is something you need to learn and understand before building your own deck, so I was wondering if anyone had a cEDH deck that would be good to learn on. I typically have practiced playing decks for weeks to months before I am confident on a $100 deck anyways so I have some experience spending time to learn a deck. I was thinking Kinnan may be a good one for me since it seems to be 40% elf ball and 60% Urza. I have played those two colors often and have played out basalt , hullbreaker, and Isorev combos in Urza. I could see less colors being easier to learn at first too. I was also thinking blue farm (not original, I know) may be good because I could get better exposure to some of the demonic/thoracle, devoted Druid etc. combos and potentially get exposure to some of the cards in the format better. Although I am leaning towards Kinnan. Let me know if my thinking is on the right track and if you have any advice or lists you think would be good for someone to learn on. Hopefully I am going about this the right way but let me know if I’m way off base here. Thank you all!

I've been working on some Sultai deck ideas, both Thrassios/Tevesh and Glarb, so I've been examining the Valley Floodcaller Combo to see if I want to include it. For those that aren't familiar, Valley Floodcaller with Banishing Knack or Retraction Helix and a tappable Bird, Frog, Otter or Rat (including Valley Floodcaller itself) plus a mana positive rock = infinite mana. I see some pros and cons of this combo:

Pros:

The cards are relatively good outside the combo. Valley Floodcaller allows casting noncreature spells with flash, a great effect. Helix and Knack can act as bounce spells outside the combo. Mana positive rocks are generally a auto-include anyway.

The combo can be fully cast at instant speed, but only if you have another bird, frog, otter, or rat in play that is tappable or a source of haste for Valley Floodcaller. But Birds of Paradise, Glarb, Mockingbird, Pollywog Prodigy, and Derevi all work as well.

Cons:

If you don't have another bird, frog, otter, or rat in play, and no way to give Valley Floodcaller haste, then the combo doesn't work right away and you have to wait to untap with VF. (This is helped somewhat by VF having flash, making it easier to untap with it.)

You also need a mana positive rock. Not a huge downside, but with the removal of Mana Crypt, that's one less option.

You need to be able to do something with infinite mana. Not a downside at all in Thrasios lists, and Glarb can infinitely surveil if he's tappable and not being used for the Knack/Helix. But as with any infinite mana combo, it needs an outlet.

Overall, I'm thinking it's a solid include in either Thrassios/Tevesh or Glarb, but I'd like to hear your experiences of it in actual play. Thanks!

https://archidekt.com/decks/10301327/cedh_pirates

Hello,

Saw some one with a similar list and been brewing my own version of it. I know Malcom/vial have been throwing up some numbers and I'm wondering if sans black is an option. For me the upsides are the intuition combo, as well as smothering tithe, turn protection with silence/grand abolisher/ranger captain.

I think the biggest things from black i would miss is the easier tutors, OBM and naus.

White makes the list a little grinder and I've included some cards to make non pirates into pirates. With maskwood, i can storm off with playing other peoples creatures with breeches and lightning rig or just win with reckless fireweaver. Mistform mask and trickery charm are something i want to try but could see dropping for being dead cards.

maskwood also lets me tutor out either creature win con. I think its kind of slept on and with magda in the list 10 treasures just lets u win.

the tap and untap enchants for lightning rig can also be used with magda to infinite treasures with delney, ive considered maybe xorn or roaming throne.

Idk maybe im too lost in the sauce. let me know your thoughts.