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https://www.moxfield.com/decks/p_2ZEjp2HUOCjpnx4vwMgQ the deck is for Azlask the Swelling Scourge, a card leaked for mh3. I'm obsessed with what it can do, and I really want to make a polymorph deck out of it. Problem I'm running into is fixing my mana base and making a value engine so I can grind to the midgame and blow up a spawn for a winning creature. I really like the hull breaker/tudespout tyrant mana rock combo for infinite mana and annihilator on my spawns, but it feels all to similar to another deck I've played with the same combo and commodore guff.
I'm looking for help with 2 things. 1) Making a value engine and 2) help with making a new polymorph combo, or optimizing the old one to include spawnsire to make infinite experience counters and possibly infinite spawns. I'm a MASSIVE fan of The Thing 1982 and that's been the main inspiration for this deck. Criticism is always welcome as I am relatively new to CEDH
EDITS: I anticipate playing against turbo decks and stax heavy decks Budget: anything is on the table except for using all OG duals, I'd prefer to keep those to a minimum of 2, maybe 3
The spoiled card Azlask, the Swelling Scourge† 3
Legendary Creature - Eldrazi (M)
Whenever Azlask, the Swelling Scourge or another colorless creature you control dies, you get an experience counter.
WUBRG: Creatures you control get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of experience counters you have. Scions and Spawns you control gain indestructible and annihilator 1 until end of turn.
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Dauthi Voidwalker, Opposition Agent, Phantasmal Image, Phyrexian Metamorph. Hello all, I'm looking for input on which two of these cards you would pick based on your experiences. I'm running a five color deck that pivots from Turbo into Midrange as needed. The two black pips on Dauthi can make it difficult to cast on turn one, but turn 2 is definitely possible. Opposition Agent is an infamous card for sure, but lately it mostly sits in my hand unless someone casts their own agent on a fetch land first. Phantasmal Image has sat in my hand sometimes when it's mostly noncreature stuff on the board, but eventually there's always a kraum or esper sentinel worth cloning. I am running Ad Naus so metamorph doesn't appeal too much to me, but people are loving their clones right now, and I've still been advised to at least consider running it. Thanks for any and all input on this everyone
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I am aware that this is one of if not the most popular deck in cedh. Every single tier list or ranking puts them at the top. So, everything else the same, your chance of winning a tournament are greatest if you play this commander.
I hear all the time that cedh is not just about high power, it is about playing the most optimal cards to win. Wouldn’t playing any other commanders be going against this idea and be suboptimal?
Sure, Kinnan, Sisay, Rogsi, Tivit, and Najeela are not far behind. In any given game random luck will ensure that all these commanders win some games. But, on average the data shows that Tymna/Kraum win the most, so why not play the best cards when the entire spirit of cedh is to play the best cards to win?
Edit: for some data. edhtop16 filtering for 2024 shows Tymna/Kraum winning 11 of the 64+ person tournaments, and the second most being Kinnan at 3.
Hey all! I'm new to this community, so I hope I'm doing this right. I'm looking for criticism/recommendations to optimize my Lord of the Nazgul spellslinger deck. I'm not exactly looking to stomp the competition, but I would like to provide a formidable challenge to the competition. I've played this deck before in a much less optimized way and did quite well, so I know Lord of the Nazgul can be built to compete. And while it may not get top 3, it would at least be a strong contender with its ability to cycle through many cards and rewarding 3/3 menace bodies per cast just feels so powerful to me.
Thanks in advance!
hey there everyone. i feel like prosper has gotten a lot of new toys in the last year or so and was wondering if there is an active prosper discord. it is my main cedh deck along with magda and i would love to discuss it’s philosophy with other players. thanks!!!
So I've decided to give cEDH a try after having a lot of fun playing some canadian highlander online and with webcam. But a 20 life 1v1 format is very different to a 4 player 40 life one.
I've looked at some decks and I (think) I get a somewhat decent grasp on what I they want to do, but just seeing decklists it can be a bit hard to truly grasp a deck's gameplay patterns (especially since my experience in piloting is mainly DnT or Aggro/Goodstuff Gruul/Jeskai or Boros synth if you've ever played pauper)
I'm aware I prefer more midrange/grindy lists and I have a small bias towards creature strategies and I'm not super good at complex combo lines but It's not like I can't play them. I'm currently looking at Talion or some flavour of Tymna partners (Malcomn, Tana or Thrassios).
I did already take a look at the EDH top 16 lists and did help a bit but if there's any good suggestions either between the decks I mentioned or the many ones I likley missed entirely, I'd appreciate any pointers.
Hey all,
I was curious if anyone had seen this card played or what it’s main plan is, if it’s just hunting for Breach combo or if there’s something I’m missing here? Like if anyone has seen Narset go off and then take over? It seems slow because of the needing to attack, and the everything has prowess would be cool, but getting enough tokens out to swing for lethal with prowess damage would seem like it should just be an infinite token combo.
I have been curious about the card for high power edh for a while, but if there’s a chance she’s cEDH playable, I’d love to hear why or how.
I’ve been working on optimizing my Baral list for high power play, and didn’t quite want to cross the power threshold into cEDH territory yet. That being said, I wanted to make sure that my list isn’t too strong for a high power table, so I’ve left out stuff like [[Mana Crypt]], and made a couple other suboptimal inclusions like [[Sapphire Medallion]]
Here’s my current build: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/hsQlc5hEXkOJ2_ej_4U3AQ
Where does my deck currently lie on the power scale? Thank you in advance for your insight!
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I've decided to give this project a title to avoid confusion. here's a preamble I've worked up to explain:
cEDgen, or competitive/degenerate EDH, is a project that aims to bridge the gap between degenerate EDH and true cEDH, by creating for each color identity a series of decks ranging from truly competitive to fringe builds. the goal of cEDgen is to produce for each deck a fully optimized build, designed to be as competitively viable as the limitations of a given commander will allow, and ultimately to assemble a collection of decks that together will cover the entire spectrum of power level within the competitive and degenerate metas
with that out of the way, the goal of this thread is to discuss options for Partner commanders within the Jund color identity. I'm interested in the strengths and weaknesses of each combination, as well as anything unique to a certain pairing
bear in mind that for the purposes of this project, picking the absolute most powerful pairing may or may not necessarily be the point, but rather we want to discuss all the main options and compare the differences between them
some Partner pairs I'm particularly considering are:
let's discuss these pairings and any others you may find interesting. I appreciate any input you guys may have
Hello! As the title states, I am looking to optimize my Yidris wheels-themed deck. I usually play in high-powered/cedh pods with my playgroup. This deck is my pet deck but lately I don't really have much fun playing it. What I find is that whenever I am trying to go for the win, it feels clunky, takes a long time, and it doesn't feel "clean." I have been tweaking my list constantly to try and fix this problem but whenever I try out my changes, it still feels clunky. I am also trying really hard to stay within the wheels-theme but I feel like I might have to switch to cascade or go full on Yidris storm to achieve my goals with this deck. Thank you for your time and I appreciate you taking a look.
I'm at a standstill, would it be better to choose Hulk lines or the Ad Naus line with the addition of Chain of Smog + Witherbloom?
I have no fast mana on the deck. Just dorks.
I have picked up Tymna/Tana recently and played this deck alot during the past couple months. I made alot of modifications and playtested multiple stuff to fit my local meta. What worked best for me was playing grindy stax.
While researching and reading comments from long time bloodpod players, they all seems to have put bloodmoon and magus of the moon away. At first I didnt think about it too much and just listened to what "pro" bloodpod players said.
I decided to playtest bloodmoon and magus and focus my plays around bringing them out as much as possible to see how bad it really is. I changed my mana base and fetched for basics every game so I can play around my own moon. To my suprise it was super powerful and very effective at shutting down almost everyone. Each time it showed up on the table everyone was focus on it. Much more then every other stax piece ! (exept maybe OPagent).
Maybe its just my local meta that mostly play 4 and 5c decks with no basic lands or maybe im just missing something, but I had alot of success with it.
Im trying to figure out why bloodmoon isnt played in bloodpod anymore ?
If anyone can bring me some insight and experience playing with or against moon that would be very nice 🙏
Thx
So, I just finished the tournament at my LGS and it went alright. It's my store's first time running a cEDH tournament and so I didn't know what to expect in terms of meta. Unfortunately for me, my first pod was with 2 Yuriko decks. My stax deck did not win but I managed to take 2nd place at the table. As I learned, my stax pieces were ineffective against their decks besides slowing the game to a crawl. But, the second pod went better against another Yuriko (yes, there were 4 Yuriko decks out of 9), a Sythis stax deck, and a Ur Dragon combo deck. Took 4rd place there but overall, taught me what my deck is lacking so I'm hoping the store runs another tournament next month.
All right so I'm back with another wacky deck idea, this time it's Kiki-Jiki, but not the usual list, instead it is chock full of win cons ranging with three separate lines for Kiki, several underworld breach lines, and a tad bit of stacks. However this deck is only has four creatures over three mana, this allows for you to polymorph any of your three drops using Lukka to find any of your one card win cons through kiki Jiki or godo helm. The deck is running many rituals to explode for a win out of nowhere, with a tad bit of stacks to get us there. This a turbo deck that is highly dependent on your starting hand as mono red really struggles to grind out the game so you will want your opponents to control the game, but with decks like Talion and Tivit running around it makes it pretty easy to prevent the other players from winning, but you do have to lookout. This is just the first rendition of this deck, so you can change the list as you like, but here's the link, any feedback would be appreciated https://www.moxfield.com/decks/SaV6HtCzEE6knN4fY__I-Q
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As title says, I think Taii has the potential to be really competitive at cedh level and net a good % win rate. Her draw AND infinite outlet + cheap cost to play turn one is really strong.
I built a combo focused deck with a few ping spells and i already won in different combo approaches to win the game . (Playtested on xmage, next week I ll have the cards in paper to test on spelltable/discord)
I can post my link if allowed :-)
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Edit:
Link to decklist:
14 Creatures + 14 Sorceries + 23 instants + 20 artifacts + 3 enchantments + 25 (+2 mdfc) Lands
U play your commander at turn 1. The next turns you are searching for combo pieces either trough:
In best case scenario we want to achieve infinite mana and kill our opponents with the help of our commanders' second ability.
Dual Caster Mage package (infinite dmg) u/ryancryptic & u/no-cap708
Bomberman package (infinite dmg) u/round_classroom_2351
Delney (double the draw ability) u/eco_33
Splinter Twin (inf. damage with Goblin Sharpshooter -> another 1/1 creature to kill needed) u/vanderzee94
Guilty Conscience (cheaper and more efficient than blazing Sunsteel --> infinite damage with brash taunter to all 3 opponents, to 1 opponent with stuffy doll) u/jackgallows4
ranger captain
-Stuffy Doll / Brash Taunter / Blazing Sunstell / Blasp. Act (inf. damage)
-Stoneforge Mystic / Steelshaper's Gift? (its a tutor for 2 combo pieces = blazing and Mithril Coat)
-Mana Geyser/ path of the pyromancer / cursed mirror / primal amulet (sometimes too slow?)
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https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/volo-itinerant-scholar-master-chef-cedh/
I’ve been editing and play testing this list for a few weeks. Play cheap dorks and X cost creatures for free with Master Chef on the field to power up the Journal. Then draw out the deck in any way you see fit.
There are lots of winning lines, and you will usually have multiple in hand, with the mana to play any or all in a turn by the time you’re looking for a win. Drawing the deck with untap effects like [[Seedborn Muse]] / [[Freed from the Real]] and playing [[Laboratory Maniac]] or [[Thassa’s Oracle]] is often what does it. Making infinite mana with [[Misthollow Griffin]] and [[Food Chain]] or IsoRev provides other options. You’ll have played [[Walking Ballista]] as a free throwaway card, and with infinite mana it turns into a win con. But you could also spend infinite mana on your [[Hydroid Krasis]] and draw out for a Thoracle/LabMan win if you’re short on untap effects. With infinite mana I often find I can play more than one winning line on the same turn, avoiding counterplay.
I think I’m going to cut [[Rhystic Study]] and add another dork. It’s just almost always better to tap Volo again than play Rhystic. Usually ends up costing the same (0-1 mana for an untap effect and 1-2 mana to tap again) while drawing roughly the number of cards I would have drawn with Rhystic Study on the turn cycle, and I get the cards now rather than later.
Still not sure about the [[Chakram Retriever]]. It’s a new addition, but feels like it could end a game off of a counterspell war alone. So idk. If you test the deck and find that the doggy wins it for you, let me know. If not, maybe another dork or creature tutor could take its place.
If you have ideas for edits, or especially if you have ideas for sideboard options, lemme know. No budget.
Best opening hand I’ve played: [[Mana Crypt]] [[Minamo, School at Water’s Edge]] [[Jeweled Lotus]] [[Forest]] [[Birds of Paradise]] [[Biomancer’s Familiar]] [[Seedborn Muse]] + draw [[Teardrop Kami]]
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Ux2t9OvZpUq3PXfawAf5_g
Not sure if anyone remembers me but I posted like a week ago about an upcoming cEDH tournament at my LGS despite no one knowing much about cEDH to begin with. Well, the tournament is tomorrow and I know that there are going to be 8 people, grand prize is a whole booster box of the newest set, and of the 8 players one is playing minotaur tribal with Mogis and the other is a high powered Urza artifact deck. The other 5 players are all casual players who want to try to compete against cEDH decks. So, all that said, I run a Marath cEDH deck but it is missing a few key pieces mainly because of the cost (Mana Crpyt, Jeweled Lotus, ect.). But besides those key pieces, I think I have it as optimized as I can with my budget and my collection but it never hurts to have another couple of eyes on it. So, any ideas what it could need that I might have lying around? Super excited to play tomorrow since the last cEDH tournament I went to, I got stomped by some pretty heavy hitting decks.
Edit: Should have mentioned in the original post that I had to change the deck a lot from its original cEDH status since my LGS is 90% casual commander only. Didn't want the deck to un-used so I brought the power level down and haven't looked at cEDH in a while. Improvements are definitely needed.
Hey all, how competitive is Emry, Lurker of the Loch and what combos work the best with her? I know about miran spy and the like, but what would you guys reccomend.
I normally play 8cast in legacy, so I figured this wouldnt be that hard of a switch.
Does Emry work or should I stick to Ragsai or something.
Hey everyone!
Welcome to Free Talk Friday! Is there anything you've been meaning to talk about that doesn't quite deserve its own thread? Do you wanna tell us about the good or bad beats you've had this week? Do you wanna show off some cool new cards you acquired for your deck? Or do you just wanna say hi? This is the place. Everyone's welcome here! As always, be nice to each other.
Feel free to talk about non-EDH topics as well.
That's all for now. Have fun!
I'm building Najeela and I see people are running Underworld Breach + Lion's Eye Diamond + Brain Freeze, but I don't understand what it really achieves, is it another thassas thing or what?
i've done some research and narrowed my options down but know i can't decide between:
any opinions are welcome!
(not technically a question so if i need to retag please let me know)
Edit: for context im normally a very storm-like and combo heavy player in my high tier casual pods and would like something that might be somewhat close to that
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I've seen a few games with this commander and I've been wanting to build something new (currently running Niv and Stella kinda feels the same but just slightly different flavor). I like the sac outlet that's built into the command zone and given that sac outlets are generally pretty hard to deal with, I wanted to see what others have thought about this commander.
Hi, since cEDH is now a format played in MTGO, I wanted to get started there but got stopped quickly. I thought I just can import my Moxfield list and start playing but it seems like the cards have to be in my "collection". So, do I really need to own all those cards online to play cedh in mtgo? Or is there another way to just import decks and start playing cEDH
I’m trying to get into the format. I’ve been playing casual commander for about a year now.i do in joy the every one getting to cast spells but i don’t play to my best cause not wanting to pick on any one and generally wanting every one to have a good time. Which has lead to a lot of lost games. So the appeal of we are playing to win in c/edh has been calling me. Out side of my self mill graveyard golgari deck I mainly play combat driven decks. Which I know is less then desirable in this type of play. So I’m debating between a midrange Yuriko or a stax Grand arbiter deck. Just to get my feet wet and try and figure out how to play competitively.