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Topics of discussion include personal paths of spirituality, issues that are distinct to the Christian Occultist community, and reconciling differences between the exoteric and esoteric sides of your faith.

 

In popular culture, exoteric Christianity is an enemy of anything labelled Occult and often even the mildly esoteric such as basic Christian Mysticism.

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We know all too well the hostility that exists in largely equal measure and equal vitriol between the Occult community and the Christian community at large. We are also aware of the attitude of "My wand is bigger than your wand" in the Occult community and the angry debates of the minutia of belief among Christians that have literally lead to bloodshed. To prevent these forces from becoming compounded here, we will no longer be lax when it comes to people becoming combative over these issues. No hateful language, name-calling, slurs (racial, homophobic or otherwise), nor threats of any kind will be tolerated. You will receive warning before being banned for such behavior but you are not guaranteed a second one.

 

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Help under attack from Lucifer

Can someone please banish, cleanse and ward me up? I am under attack from Lucifer for the past 3 months and everyday I am fighting astral shit thrown at me. Can someone please send a protective servitor or anything that would help me? I can't connect to Michael as the one I am connecting to isn't helping me but instead attacking me. I tried multiple times to no avail. Can someone divine out what's exactly going on? I am not even sure who is attacking me 😭 😭

Can anybody send Jesus or Michael or anybody who can fight off Lucifer?

My evocation seems blocked as every deity and angel I tried to summon attacks me. And even the Jesus I evoked smashed my wards, and that's the last thing the real Jesus would do. But I signed the cross, charged a cross. I even activated the 2nd and 5th pentacle of the Sun? Which would be better for protection against Lucifer and his armies?

Why was Michael & Jesus were attacking me everytime I evoked them? Can somebody asked them ? When I asked my Tarot about Michael I got the temperance card. even though I was experiencing attacks during tarot reading

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2024/11/30
04:25 UTC

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My study on the Book of Job (part 2)

Both Jesus' teaching and the Book of Job say that eagles are at the body of someone or something that has died. If eagles aren't observed gathering physically at all corpses, maybe they still do spiritually gather at corpses. Animals have a spirit in them like humans do. That spirit seems to leave the body upon death.

For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth? - Ecclesiastes 3:19-21, ^(note: a better translation instead of "they all have the same breath" is: "and one spirit regarding all")

So an eagle can be a physical form with its spirit in its physical body. Or an eagle can be only its disembodied spirit. The latter might be what Jesus and the Book of Job were meaning for eagles gathering at corpses. This is better to explain how eagles could be at every single corpse ever. Because, if they were physical, they would have to use some kind of superpower such as time travel or super-speed or spatial portals to be at so many places because there are many dying people and animals at any given time. Though, spirits of eagles might could do this when physical eagles would be limited by their physical form.

The Bible associates eagles with superpowers:

while Moses went up to God. The Lord called to him out of the mountain, saying, “Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob, and tell the people of Israel: ‘You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles’ wings and brought you to myself' - Exodus 19:3-4

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who satisfies you with good,

so that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s - Psalm 103:5, ^(A great question is, how could someone's youth be renewed unless there was some type of time travel involved?)

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He gives power to the faint,

and to him who has no might he increases strength.
Even youths shall faint and be weary,
and young men shall fall exhausted;
but they who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength;
they shall mount up with wings like eagles;
they shall run and not be weary;
they shall walk and not faint. - Isaiah 40:29-31

If this is the case in the Book of Job, that the eagles are spiritual, then what about the other animals? The order of animals there seems random when referring to physical animals. But to God, the order and sequence of things does matter. Remember the importance of the order of days in Genesis 1, or the importance of the Sabbath day being the seventh day of the week. The order of things is significant to God.

for God is not a God of disorder but of peace. - 1 Corinthians 14:33

In order to time travel, spiritual eagles might have to go against the flow of time. Thinking about this, I'm offering a refresher on the flow of time, dimensionally. Speaking of dimensions, we don't just live in three dimensions. Imagine a cube with a person and an environment inside of it, frozen in a moment of time, like a 3D snapshot. Now duplicate or clone that cube, making 2 of them, picturing the other cube like the first, but make some things in the second cube very very very slightly changed from the first cube, in such ways as position of objects, or position the person. Place these cubes touching together. Now extend this idea, cloning more and more cubes, each with very slight changes to the previous, to make a single row of these cubes. Now this is like looking at an overview of a row of frames of a 3D animated movie. When you want to show the flow of time passing, you can look at one cube, then the next cube in the row, and then the next, and then the next, and so on.

You can go down the row of cubes at any speed, and this change of speed is a change of the rate time passes. Like changing the speed of a 3D animated movie. This is like looking at the row of cubes, out of the window of a tiny train that's about the size of the row, that runs parallel with the row. If the train speeds up, then the rate of your perception of time for that row of cubes speeds up. If the train slows down, then the rate of time of the row of cubes slows down. This models the flow of time transitioning from one cube to the next, in the row. Looking at each cube in the sequence of the row of cubes, the cubes representing moments, is going with the flow of time, one way. If you go in the opposite direction in the same row, that is, if you look at one cube, and then the next cube in the row, and then the next... in the opposite direction, then you are viewing the opposite direction of the flow of time for the row of cube-moments. This is like if the tiny train /(that has train-tracks parallel with the row of cubes) went backwards, so that when you looked out of the window of the tiny train, you would see the cubes one by one in their reverse sequence, showing time going backwards for whatever was on the insides of those cubes.

Now imagine that the row of cubes has another row of cubes intersecting the first row, at some point/cube, so that the two rows of cubes makes a "cross" shape. The two rows of cubes are perpendicular to each other. And they intersect at one of their cubes, and together the two rows form a cross. So, this is a cross made out of cubes. Both the first and second rows of the cross have their own cubes. Now again imagine you're on the tiny train, which is going parallel to the first row of cubes, as in the example beforementioned, when the train moves along the tracks, and you look out of the window of the tiny train, you would see the flow of time for the first row of cubes like before. However, when you come to the place where the two rows of cubes cross, the crossing of the two rows of cubes, then you would see one of the cubes of the second row blip by very quickly, that cube appearing then disappearing quickly like a flash, and then you would continue as before to see the flow of time for the first row of cubes. So these two rows of cubes are like two flows of time that are perpendicular to each other.

Where the two rows intersect or meet, in this example is the same cube for both the first and the second rows. The two rows share a cube that is in the middle of the cross. This means that whatever or whoever is inside of this shared cube, can choose to follow the flow of time for the first row of cubes or change directions and flow down the second row of cubes after having gone down the first, like making a 90º degree turn between rows. Now obviously, this is not a 90º turn in 3D space! Because a person or thing in one of the cubes that makes a 3D 90º turn in 3D space will stay in the same row of cubes as before. So if a person or character who is portrayed in those cubes, makes a 90º turn in 3D space, will be seen by a person from the tiny train, that the character will stay in the next few cubes in that same row of cubes without switching rows. But the character will appear from the train to be turning around in the "3D animated movie" of the first row of cubes. If the character having their flow of time portrayed in the first row of cubes actually does make not a 90º turn in 3D space, but in 4D space, then they would make a 90º turn to switch from row 1 to row 2 of the cross. If you were in a tiny train running parallel to the first row of cubes, you would see the normal flow of time for the character in the first row of cubes, but suddenly the character would disappear whenever the train passed the place where the two rows crossed perpendicularly.

So, if eagles are related to time travel, then they might be related to consciousness that can move in another higher dimensional angle, like a 4D angle, like that as described above. Therefore, the other animals in the order in God's monologue in the Book of Job, may correspond to each their own higher-dimensional or 4D angle! And the sequence of animals might correspond to the sequence of angles, like in 2D/3D how 0º goes to 1º goes to 2º goes to 3º goes to 4º and so on until it wraps back around from 359º back to 0º. This would be like the character turning but staying inside the same row of cubes. The animals in the book of Job might be like the angles of the rows of cubes with respect to other rows of cubes.

There doesn't have to be only two rows of cubes. Like a circle in 2D/3D has 360º, a cube can have multiple row-angles, or like how I call them "angle-plus's" or "angle+'s". Each animal in God's monologue in the Book of Job might have their own angle+.

When a person moves their body, they change their focus to a place that is 3D, the space of whatever place of the body they want to move or move to. But consciousness or focus could also be put slightly ahead in time, like for planning out for an action. Or consciousness could be put on a memory of the far past or the very recent past. Or it could be put in something that isn't physically happening, i.e. imagination. Therefore, it could already be common to put focus into other angle+'s, without knowing it. Maybe some people haven't tried putting some of their consciousness/focus into other angle+'s, whereby that amount would "change which row of cubes its in". Making a 180º turn in angle+'s (or 180º turn with respect to rows of cubes, as in the former example) would mean going directly back in time, like 180º to the flow of time. If someone was to start describing how to turn in angle+ directions, then they would probably start with the regular flow of time and work their way explaining each angle+ direction until they eventually got to explaining the angle+ that is directly opposite the flow of time. If eagles are spiritually related to this angle+ or a similar angle+, then it makes sense that the sequence of animals in the Book of Job puts eagles as one of the last in the sequence of animals, because the order of explanation would have at first: "1º+" difference to the flow of time, which may be more understandable to the reader and to Job, and then proceed all the way unto "180º+" difference to the flow of time, which may not just be more easily understood to the reader and to Job, but also be necessary if the action is a higher dimensional rotation, requiring passing the previous degrees to get to the desired one. Like how if you wanted to spin completely around in 3D space, you would have to first pass every single angle before you did complete the spin.

If this sounds far-fetched, consider Ezekiel 10.

Then I looked, and behold, on the expanse that was over the heads of the cherubim there appeared above them something like a sapphire, in appearance like a throne. And he said to the man clothed in linen, “Go in among the whirling wheels underneath the cherubim. Fill your hands with burning coals from between the cherubim, and scatter them over the city.”

And he went in before my eyes. Now the cherubim were standing on the south side of the house, when the man went in, and a cloud filled the inner court. And the glory of the Lord went up from the cherub to the threshold of the house, and the house was filled with the cloud, and the court was filled with the brightness of the glory of the Lord. And the sound of the wings of the cherubim was heard as far as the outer court, like the voice of God Almighty when he speaks.

And when he commanded the man clothed in linen, “Take fire from between the whirling wheels, from between the cherubim,” he went in and stood beside a wheel. And a cherub stretched out his hand from between the cherubim to the fire that was between the cherubim, and took some of it and put it into the hands of the man clothed in linen, who took it and went out. The cherubim appeared to have the form of a human hand under their wings.

And I looked, and behold, there were four wheels beside the cherubim, one beside each cherub, and the appearance of the wheels was like sparkling beryl. And as for their appearance, the four had the same likeness, as if a wheel were within a wheel. When they went, they went in any of their four directions without turning as they went, but in whatever direction the front wheel faced, the others followed without turning as they went. And their whole body, their rims, and their spokes, their wings, and the wheels were full of eyes all around—the wheels that the four of them had. As for the wheels, they were called in my hearing “the whirling wheels.” And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of the cherub, and the second face was a human face, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.

And the cherubim mounted up. These were the living creatures that I saw by the Chebar canal. And when the cherubim went, the wheels went beside them. And when the cherubim lifted up their wings to mount up from the earth, the wheels did not turn from beside them. When they stood still, these stood still, and when they mounted up, these mounted up with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in them.

Then the glory of the Lord went out from the threshold of the house, and stood over the cherubim. And the cherubim lifted up their wings and mounted up from the earth before my eyes as they went out, with the wheels beside them. And they stood at the entrance of the east gate of the house of the Lord, and the glory of the God of Israel was over them.

These were the living creatures that I saw underneath the God of Israel by the Chebar canal; and I knew that they were cherubim. Each had four faces, and each four wings, and underneath their wings the likeness of human hands. And as for the likeness of their faces, they were the same faces whose appearance I had seen by the Chebar canal. Each one of them went straight forward.

Notice that a lion is mentioned as one of the faces, as is an eagle, and also a human (and also a cherub). And that they went straight forward. And the wheel within a wheel connotes implies rotation.

Now look at Ezekiel 1.

Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. And the four had their faces and their wings thus: their wings touched one another. Each one of them went straight forward, without turning as they went. As for the likeness of their faces, each had a human face. The four had the face of a lion on the right side, the four had the face of an ox on the left side, and the four had the face of an eagle. Such were their faces. And their wings were spread out above. Each creature had two wings, each of which touched the wing of another, while two covered their bodies. And each went straight forward. Wherever the spirit would go, they went, without turning as they went. As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, like the appearance of torches moving to and fro among the living creatures. And the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning. And the living creatures darted to and fro, like the appearance of a flash of lightning.

Again the faces are associated with animals, and some of these animals are animals in the Book of Job. If they had faces of specific animals on specific sides, and if they moved "without turning as they went", then naturally each specific animal face would constantly only face in one direction only, because they did not turn. They had a specific animal face for each side, and those sides did not turn. Therefore, the animals corresponded to specfic directions! If these directions were not 3D, they might have been higher dimensional, or angle+'s. Also notice that in Ezekiel 1, the human face and the eagle face were 180º(+) to each other, because the other two sides were taken up by the ox and the lion. Also notice that means that the eagle face and the lion face are 90º(+) to each other, or perpendicular.

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2024/11/28
04:07 UTC

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My study on the Book of Job (part 1)

Why is the Book of Job so important?

2 main reasons:

  1. Jesus references it nearly directly.

Luke 17:37 - Then they asked him, "Where, Lord, will this take place?" He told them, "Wherever there's a corpse, there the eagles will gather." Many translations have "vultures" BUT THAT'S A WRONG TRANSLATION. In the book of Revelation even the same Greek word aetoi means "eagle".

Job 39:27,30 - Does the eagle soar at your command and make his nest on high?...His young ones suck up blood, and where the slain are, there is he.

  1. It contains by far the longest or one of the longest uninterrupted monologues by the maker of the universe in all of the bible! Seems like Jesus definitely wanted his disciples to know the book he was referring to.

Jesus answered them, "Aren't you mistaken because you don't know the Scriptures or God's power? - Mark 12:24

In the monologue at the end of the book, God may have been congratulating Job on surviving the trials that were given to him. He seemed to be congratulating Job for not sinning.

In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing. - Job 1:22

And God commends Job twice at the end of the book for Job saying things that are confirmed. (Job 42:7-8). So it doesn't make sense that God would be mad at Job, because Job survived the trials and didn't sin in the process. Just the opposite, He seemed proud of Job.

Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.” - Job 2:3

So instead, I believe that God was rewarding Job by giving him keys to doing miracles, and associating Job with the keys, even if they're difficult to understand. And this doesn't mean that Job knew what he was receiving either. He could have thought that God was mad at him, like some modern readers did. He may not have known the way to understand what was being said to him.

Notice that Job says:

Therefore I have uttered what I did not understand,

things too wonderful for me, which I did not know - Job 42:3

The word wonderful here is translated from the Hebrew stem P-L-A which is often used in the bible to mean 'miracle' or 'miraculous'. This verse could have been translated:

Therefore I have told and not discerned,

things miraculous from me, and I wasn't knowing it - Job 42:3

So Job talked with his friends about miraculous things without knowing it. So Job (and his friends) brought the topics of discussion, which were about the miraculous (although Job didn't realize this), and then God replied with the knowledge keys needed for Job to understand what topics Job (and his friends) had brought up.

And replied the LORD to Job out of the whirlwind and said: “Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge? - Job 38:1-2

What did God reply about? When somebody replies to another, they talk about what has been done/said before. Job said things that were confirmed (Job 42:7-8) and also without sinning with his lips (Job 2:10), and told about things that were miraculous, so God would have replied about the topic of the miraculous.

"Without knowledge": Job would have been bringing up the topics, and what was confirmed, but without the correct details. This could be like if somebody was saying that there is a restaurant in this town, and they would be correct. They would bring up that topic for conversation, but when asked they might not know what its name is, or what street it's on, or when it's open etc. So, it's not useful unless more details are known.

And the action of replying makes sense, especially with more details because He is God and would know those sorts of things, when you consider that many of the concepts that God talks about are brought up before His monologue. Both Job (and his friends) and then later God talk about: Leviathan (Job 3:8, 41:1), and lions (Job 4:10, Job 38:39-40), and stars, and eagles (Job 9:26, Job 39:27-30). So it's not like the replying was about general things, but replying about specific concepts that Job (and in Job's replies to his friends) brought up. And because Job talked about miraculous things, the reply would have been about the miraculous. So, I believe that the Book of Job contains useful keys of a mysterious method of how to do miracles.

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2024/11/26
16:28 UTC

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Mass prayer against Wars

During these unholy, corrupt, and chaotic times all around the world, we may be experiencing the beginning of WWII. I’m an occultist who would like to share prayers and hope that many more people can help pray. If you are interested… repeat like a mantra daily.

For safety during war Psalm 60

For protection in time of war Isaiah 43:1-2

Against national war Psalm 149

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2024/11/25
16:48 UTC

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Does anyone think Spirtiuality/Magick/Mysticism/Occultism is very neglected in European swordsmanship (and martial arts in general)? Seeing how so much swordsmanship is steeped in Christian tradition such Catholic Saint devotions (esp prior to the Reformation)?

I just got a book by mail The Sicilian Blade by Vito Quattrochi.

Quattorchi's main specialization isn't martial arts but occultism. Specifically Catholic devotions. His most famous book is Benedicaria: Magical Catholicism which is basically about local Italian magick all revolving around the Roman Catholic framework.

Throughout his book on Sicilian knife fighting he frequently mentions prayer to Saint Michael. Even in his Benedicaria and other occult books, frequently he says to call Michael the Archangel not just for defense against demons, but even for physical protection (one of the prayers in the Benedicaria mentions something about praying to Michael to let the enemies knife miss stabbing at you).

So I think this is a very underlooked topic. I'm not a Roman Catholic but I was raised Anglican and one of my relatives specialized in the Anglo-Catholic tradition. So I'm quite familiar with basic Catholic stuff from his tutorship and in Catholicism many Saints are given patronages of not only war but even certain weapons like Sebastian bow and arrows and Maurice swords.

Without going into a ramble about Catholic theology, you seek a saint who is patron of a specific subject like say Raphael for healing and ask them in a prayer to intercede on your behalf (they pray to God asking for your request related to the subject). Hopefully God answers them. The stronger the Saint is a patronage of a subject, the more likely a response from God.

In addition being raised in an Anglican-Lutheran hybrid school of thought in my household, I read through lots of stuff about Protestant Reformation and plenty of stories about prayers to the Trinity for victory not only in battles during major conflicts like The Thirty Years Wars but prayer before and after duels, hanging biblical verses outside of barracks (and so I would assume same for fencing schools), holding the cross while resting, etc in the various stuff I was forced to read, watch, and so on as a child all the way to College Years. Nothing involving saints BTW since Lutheranism normally doesn't believe in intercession of the Saints.

I mean even ISIS are known to have an Imam quote Quranic verses not only before battle but even during training as well as play Adhan before and after training sessions. So if Iraqi swordsmen today are even using Islamic spirituality as part of their fencing traditions, why does HEMA and most Western fighting traditions seem to completely ignore this often very associated part of Asian martial arts?

I mean in a HEMA site they were even pointing out some Medieval and Renaissance schools have patron Saints and not only had prayers and candle devotions but blatantly used Christian symbols as part of their logos as well as Biblical verses in local languages!

If there's one reason that irks me so much about the lack of exploring occultism and mysticism in HEMA and western fighting traditions in general, its not the fact some local familial styles like Vito Quattrochi's family style is steeped with Christian tradition..............

Its the fact in a far away Eastern country in Asia called the Philippines often has devotions to Saint Michael as a common thing across their local arts' schools. Esp schools existing prior to "Eskrima" being created as an all-catch codification of Filipino martial arts, already predecessor styles Saint Michael statues commonly in whatever the Filipino equivalent of a dojo is called.

So why does HEMA as a whole and even Western fighting arts tend to neglect the religious and occultic aspects of European martial arts? Esp since intercessions of the Saints was so ubiquitous in Medieval and Renaissance society it permeated not just swordsmanship and unarmed martial arts but practically all across European society? I mean even illiterate peasant farmers knew about prayers to local Saints and how to light novena and the nobility saw it necessary to honor Mother Mary or else!

Bonus question-anyone who is Christians do you attempt to add back European mysiticism into your practise of HEMA esp Catholic devotions? Do any of you light novenas to Saint Michael the Archangel or read verses from a Calvinistic bible in between breaks at sparring sessions?

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2024/11/15
00:12 UTC

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I heard by a jewish occultist that the book of St Cyprian, the Grimoire of Pope Honorius, and the enchiridion of Pope Leo are pseudepigraphical. What do you think?

He was talking about "fake" grimoires that shouldn't be practiced because they're "fraud" and mentioned these books. He also said that the Christian Kabbalah contradicts itself because the christian church and the bible condemns magic and mysticism. He argues that Jewish mysticism shouldn't be mixed with christianity.

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2024/11/09
18:48 UTC

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Vittoria Ferrone Compagni's essay on Agrippa's Christian Magic.

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2024/10/27
20:37 UTC

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Attending or holding Liturgy/Mass/Service

Like my title says, how do yall feel about attending mass or celebrating your own. Just wondering what other people in this space do.

Me personally I celebrate mass on my own (even though I have no formal ordaination). I usually celebrate the Liberal Catholic mass or the Gnostic Breaking Of The bread.

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2024/10/26
03:08 UTC

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Which Catholic saint should I pray to for passing exams?

I have the idea that there are Catholic saints that are prayed to for knowledge but that knowledge is limited to religious stuff.

Is there any saint that can be asked for intercession for learning worldly sciences and passing am exam. Passing am exam requires focus, memory, time management, capacity to absorb knowledge. Saints that help with these will also be helpful

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2024/10/13
19:55 UTC

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Christian Kabbalah resources?

So I know Christian Kabbalah was a thing during the Middle Ages and Renaissance, however it doesn't seem like there is much modern information on it that is not based in Hermeticism, so does anyone know where to start with this topic? I am very interested in learning as much as I can about this path so any help is of course very appreciated.

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2024/10/13
01:43 UTC

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Introducing Charles Williams – Master of Esoteric Wisdom and Mystical Literature

Hey Reddit!

If you’re fascinated by mysticism, esoteric traditions, and the hidden realms of spiritual knowledge, let me introduce you to Charles Williams, an author whose works are infused with profound mystical and esoteric themes.

As one of the most enigmatic members of the famous “Inklings” (alongside C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien), Williams explored deep spiritual concepts in his writing, drawing from a variety of mystical and esoteric sources. His fiction, often categorized as supernatural thrillers, dives into the mysteries of the human soul, the nature of evil, and the unseen spiritual forces that govern our world.

Some key aspects of Williams’ esoteric thought include:

•	The Doctrine of Substituted Love: A concept central to Williams’ spiritual vision, where individuals take on the suffering of others as an act of divine love, mirroring mystical Christian theology.
•	Imaginal Reality: In books like The Place of the Lion, Williams explores the Platonic world of archetypes, where spiritual and intellectual realities take physical form, radically affecting the material world.
•	Mysticism and Ritual Magic: Williams was deeply influenced by the hermetic and occult traditions, having been connected with the Fellowship of the Rosy Cross, a Christian mystical order. His works subtly weave in these esoteric practices, making his stories as much about spiritual initiation as they are about external action.

Among his most esoteric works are:

•	“Descent into Hell”: A profound exploration of personal damnation and salvation, where Williams blends supernatural occurrences with the psychological and mystical struggles of his characters.
•	“All Hallows’ Eve”: A novel that delves into life after death, spiritual possession, and the thin veil between the physical and spiritual worlds.

Williams was a mystic at heart, and his writing reflects a deep understanding of the unseen forces that influence our lives, from angelic presences to the power of sacrificial love. His unique blend of Christian mysticism, Platonic philosophy, and esoteric traditions makes his works a treasure trove for anyone seeking deeper spiritual insight.

If you’re intrigued by esoteric themes in literature or have been drawn to mystical traditions, Charles Williams offers a rich, rewarding journey into the unseen realms. Feel free to ask questions or share your thoughts if you’ve encountered his works!

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2024/10/11
23:37 UTC

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What are people's reactions when you tell them you are a christian occultist?

I'm also interested in knowing what do you respond to those people who say that magic, esotericism, and occultism are condemned by the Bible, the church and by God. What are your arguments and reasons to be a christian occultist?

These questions come from someone who's deeply interesed in this, I don't have any intentions to attack your beliefs and your practices.

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2024/10/11
22:33 UTC

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Magic System

Good evening brothers and sisters.

I am in the process of reconfiguring my magic system and was wondering if you would like to share your own magic system. What are your practices that you follow? Do you have a ritual? What tools do you use?

Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

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2024/10/09
23:21 UTC

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Best resource for working with the Shemhamephorash angels?

I want to start working with them, but it seems complicated and confusing. Does anyone know a good source of accurate information on traditional practice? I did find this paper and was wondering if it is accurate or useful in any way.

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2024/10/08
12:49 UTC

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Ars Magica is a Christian Occultist Dream RPG, I'm getting super into it

Okay - I'm so, so, SO new to the world of RPG. Like, I'd heard of "LARPing"/LARPers in a pejorative sense lol and I'd only ever heard of Dungeons & Dragons. But a viral tweet about Habitica (habit tracking app that's got a D&D vibe) got me hooked and I've been in deep reading about various games and their impact.

Ars Magica looks amazing and I wonder if anyone here plays it? I was googling to see if there were any tabletop RPGs that allowed you to play as a Nun without having to incorporate more fantastical elements like "Nuns with Guns" or vampire hunters etc. Ars Magica really seems realistic in a way that I haven't noticed with other games (remember that I'm literally a week into this new hobby though so, take that with a grain of salt of course).

There is the Order of Hermes, made up of mages, who live and work in covenants (which are absolutely functioning as a convent as well in that there's a community element and the Hermetic Vow). That was enough to pique my interest, and now I'm looking through the supplementary reference book called Realms of Power: The Divine, which details the mechanics of how the 3 Abrahamic religions, God, The Church, angeles, saints, demons, all come into game play and strengthen/weaken your characters. I'm blown away at the quality of the research the writers must've done. Some of it reads like actual theological texts!!

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2024/10/04
18:08 UTC

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Do you recommend the Heptameron?

Looking for an angelic grimoire tradition after dwelling a while in paganism and coming back to christ.

I’ve been recommended the Heptameron as a very good classical angelic christian Grimoire and was wondering if anyone around here has experience working with it and would recommend it.

Edit: I’m well aware that prayer, faith and intimate connection with God, his angels and the saints is more than enough to work wonders, and I’ve received inmense blessings through this methods. I just think it wouldn’t hurt to also have in view a more structured system of working woth God’s angels.

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2024/10/02
17:56 UTC

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How to get started?

Hey everyone, I've been interested in the occult for a long time and I've been recently looking for how to get started learning it within a Christian (and more specifically Catholic) framework. How would I go about doing this?

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2024/09/29
19:53 UTC

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How do I read psalms for someone else

I’m 17 & new to reading psalms. Every night I light a white candle & pray psalms 91 & 23 out loud but I also wanna do some protection work for my mother so how would I do that?

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2024/09/16
23:02 UTC

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Angelic experiences

Have any of you had any direct experiences with Angels that you'd like to share? I'll start with my own. So about two years ago I met up with a friend of mine for a tarot reading and psychic reading season, we finished them both after about 25 minutes or so, and then she proceeds to bring out a crystal pendulum, invoke the name of the Archangel Raphael, and started speaking in Toungs for about a minute saying a prayer only intelligible to her, the angel, and her creator. after coming out of a trance she asks the Archangel questions on my behalf to be answered by a swirling of the pendulum right for yes, left for no. She asks it a few questions and the pendulum was moving slowly but was moving yes, every time. she asked a very personal question for me and the wing began to pick up immediately and started moving the pendulum in the opposite direction as it had for the other questions. After that she finished, and couldn't remember speaking in Toungs, or being entranced or any of the angelic work she'd done. I know my words probably aren't doing it justice, but it was truly one the most profound, supernatural spiritual experiences of my life that I'll never forget. Raphael has been my guiding angel ever since. (Coincidentally, in the late 1950's my mother, when she was a little girl, had contracted polio. I have heard the story my entire life how she says her mother took her into church, put a hand on her head and another in the air and began speaking a prayer in Toungs between only her and "her creator" as she put it, and she was cured of the illness within the year. Knowing that Raphael is the Archangel of healing I can't help but wonder now if there is any connection...) Anyway, just thought I would share, as this seemed like the proper community for it.

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2024/09/14
03:56 UTC

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Has anyone been successful at the unceasing prayer of the heart?

I am looking for some advice on this and would like to hear from someone who is currently living with an open heart from unceasing prayer.

Keeping my heart open all day via unceasing prayer is a bit intense energetically and am wondering how a person goes about handling it or if they only open their heart certain times a day during devotion.

(As per The Way of the Pilgrim)

Thanks!

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2024/09/09
01:04 UTC

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Join me as I investigate Kierkegaard's notion of the Nothing in relationship the Kabbalist idea that inducing a state of nothingness precedes ascent to the Ain Sof, and their relationship to the occult spiritual and practical journey to self-awreness.

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2024/09/07
22:42 UTC

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Wanting to learn about theurgy/solomonic magick

So I am considering beginning occult practice and from what I have seen medieval theurgia seems like a promising path for me, however I am struggling to find much information on it. Is there anyone here who practices theurgy who could shed some light on the details of what it is and how to get started? I also would like to know how it differs from solomonioc ceremonial magick and what the later entails as well. I prefer to work with primary sources so any medieval texts on the topic would be appreciated.

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2024/09/04
18:05 UTC

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How does food and drink offerings in front of religious art like Crucifix and Mary statues as practised by lots of non-Western cultures go? Is it ok since so many priests in 3rd world places such as Latin America tolerate people doing it in private at home and Chinese ancestor rites is not idolatry?

I know now that Chinese ancestor rites is now considered fine to do by the mainstream Church but as someone of Southeast Asian origins, in my house my parents put plates and cups of food and drinks in front of the Crucifix and Mary statues at the home altar and other religious arts across the house.

I'm wondering if a mortal sin is being committed? I know that priests are known to tolerate a similar practise by poor people across Latin Americans doing it in private in their residence. So I'd assume this is not necessarily outright idolatry? Especially with Chinese ancestor Rites having good offerings done in front of deceased relatives?

In particular how does it go when done with intercessory prayers asking for petitions from the figure featured in the particular artwork being used?

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2024/09/02
14:13 UTC

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Are there any Rosicrucians in here?

I think I’d like to join the Rosicrucians. I’d like to talk to one if possible. If you’re open to some questions please let me know :)

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2024/08/27
17:57 UTC

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kabbalah of sagemode

  • There is a divine ray within the human being. That ray wants to return back into its own star that has always smiled upon it. The star that guides our interior is a super divine atom from the abstract absolute space. The Kabbalistic name of that atom is the sacred Ain Soph.

The Ain Soph is our atomic star. This star radiates within the absolute abstract space full of glory. Precisely in this order, Kether (the Father), Chokmah (the Son), and Binah (the Holy Spirit) of every human being emanate from this star. The Ain Soph, the star that guides our interior, sent its ray into the world in order to become cognizant of its own happiness.

Happiness without cognizance of happiness is not real happiness.

The ray (the Spirit) had cognizance as a mineral, plant, and animal. When the ray incarnated for the first time within the wild and primitive human body, the ray awoke as a human being and had self-cognizance of its own happiness. Then the ray could have returned into its own star that guides its interior.

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2024/08/27
12:34 UTC

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Everybody here is welcome to interview to join a monastery I'm starting in Kentucky

Lwctheory.blogspot.com

I want it to be a sort of pacifist Christian version of Kamar Taj from Doctor Strange.

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2024/08/22
14:26 UTC

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A complete system of Christian occult and esoteric practices.

Hello everyone, I’ve been reading various books on occult and esoteric practices, combining different elements and essentially creating my own system by gathering and applying what I’ve learned. However, I’d like to start following a complete and tested system based on Christianity. Are there any books that offer a complete system? I would really appreciate your answers. Thank you.

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2024/08/18
20:42 UTC

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What do you believe happens when we die?

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2024/08/18
01:21 UTC

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