/r/ChristianOccultism
A safe place for Occultists exiled by Christians and Christians exiled by Occultists.
Topics of discussion include personal paths of spirituality, issues that are distinct to the Christian Occultist community, and reconciling differences between the exoteric and esoteric sides of your faith.
In popular culture, exoteric Christianity is an enemy of anything labelled Occult and often even the mildly esoteric such as basic Christian Mysticism.
We hope to foster a place where even belief structures as "incompatible" as these can live in harmony.
May our goal ever be to nurture personal and collective spiritual development, regular spiritual practice, and a deeper understanding of the Mysteries of God. May the Light of God fill us in all our doings. Amen.
Posts should be related to topics of particular interest to individuals who are into various mystical or esoteric paths of personal development who also identify as Christian or work within a Christian Magickal Paradigm.
We know all too well the hostility that exists in largely equal measure and equal vitriol between the Occult community and the Christian community at large. We are also aware of the attitude of "My wand is bigger than your wand" in the Occult community and the angry debates of the minutia of belief among Christians that have literally lead to bloodshed. To prevent these forces from becoming compounded here, we will no longer be lax when it comes to people becoming combative over these issues. No hateful language, name-calling, slurs (racial, homophobic or otherwise), nor threats of any kind will be tolerated. You will receive warning before being banned for such behavior but you are not guaranteed a second one.
In reference to the previous point, the purpose of this subreddit is to allow extremely different ideologies to stew together. Anyone is welcome to post or comment here, including people who are actively hostile to Christianity as long as you honor rule #2. We hate no one regardless of their beliefs, nor do we have any hostility toward Left Hand Paths, Satanism, Luciferians, Setians, etc. and they are more than welcome to join us in discussions about various occult topics.
Keep in mind that this is a place for Christian Occultists or Occultists working within a Christian paradigm. General Occult topics should probably be in /r/Occult or the proper related sub. However, as many who come here are practitioners of some stripe, Occult questions or topics of any type are welcome. We just don't want this to become a dumping ground for /r/Occult x-posts that aren't in some way Christian related.
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Like my title says, how do yall feel about attending mass or celebrating your own. Just wondering what other people in this space do.
Me personally I celebrate mass on my own (even though I have no formal ordaination). I usually celebrate the Liberal Catholic mass or the Gnostic Breaking Of The bread.
I have the idea that there are Catholic saints that are prayed to for knowledge but that knowledge is limited to religious stuff.
Is there any saint that can be asked for intercession for learning worldly sciences and passing am exam. Passing am exam requires focus, memory, time management, capacity to absorb knowledge. Saints that help with these will also be helpful
So I know Christian Kabbalah was a thing during the Middle Ages and Renaissance, however it doesn't seem like there is much modern information on it that is not based in Hermeticism, so does anyone know where to start with this topic? I am very interested in learning as much as I can about this path so any help is of course very appreciated.
Hey Reddit!
If you’re fascinated by mysticism, esoteric traditions, and the hidden realms of spiritual knowledge, let me introduce you to Charles Williams, an author whose works are infused with profound mystical and esoteric themes.
As one of the most enigmatic members of the famous “Inklings” (alongside C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien), Williams explored deep spiritual concepts in his writing, drawing from a variety of mystical and esoteric sources. His fiction, often categorized as supernatural thrillers, dives into the mysteries of the human soul, the nature of evil, and the unseen spiritual forces that govern our world.
Some key aspects of Williams’ esoteric thought include:
• The Doctrine of Substituted Love: A concept central to Williams’ spiritual vision, where individuals take on the suffering of others as an act of divine love, mirroring mystical Christian theology.
• Imaginal Reality: In books like The Place of the Lion, Williams explores the Platonic world of archetypes, where spiritual and intellectual realities take physical form, radically affecting the material world.
• Mysticism and Ritual Magic: Williams was deeply influenced by the hermetic and occult traditions, having been connected with the Fellowship of the Rosy Cross, a Christian mystical order. His works subtly weave in these esoteric practices, making his stories as much about spiritual initiation as they are about external action.
Among his most esoteric works are:
• “Descent into Hell”: A profound exploration of personal damnation and salvation, where Williams blends supernatural occurrences with the psychological and mystical struggles of his characters.
• “All Hallows’ Eve”: A novel that delves into life after death, spiritual possession, and the thin veil between the physical and spiritual worlds.
Williams was a mystic at heart, and his writing reflects a deep understanding of the unseen forces that influence our lives, from angelic presences to the power of sacrificial love. His unique blend of Christian mysticism, Platonic philosophy, and esoteric traditions makes his works a treasure trove for anyone seeking deeper spiritual insight.
If you’re intrigued by esoteric themes in literature or have been drawn to mystical traditions, Charles Williams offers a rich, rewarding journey into the unseen realms. Feel free to ask questions or share your thoughts if you’ve encountered his works!
I'm also interested in knowing what do you respond to those people who say that magic, esotericism, and occultism are condemned by the Bible, the church and by God. What are your arguments and reasons to be a christian occultist?
These questions come from someone who's deeply interesed in this, I don't have any intentions to attack your beliefs and your practices.
Good evening brothers and sisters.
I am in the process of reconfiguring my magic system and was wondering if you would like to share your own magic system. What are your practices that you follow? Do you have a ritual? What tools do you use?
Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
I want to start working with them, but it seems complicated and confusing. Does anyone know a good source of accurate information on traditional practice? I did find this paper and was wondering if it is accurate or useful in any way.
Okay - I'm so, so, SO new to the world of RPG. Like, I'd heard of "LARPing"/LARPers in a pejorative sense lol and I'd only ever heard of Dungeons & Dragons. But a viral tweet about Habitica (habit tracking app that's got a D&D vibe) got me hooked and I've been in deep reading about various games and their impact.
Ars Magica looks amazing and I wonder if anyone here plays it? I was googling to see if there were any tabletop RPGs that allowed you to play as a Nun without having to incorporate more fantastical elements like "Nuns with Guns" or vampire hunters etc. Ars Magica really seems realistic in a way that I haven't noticed with other games (remember that I'm literally a week into this new hobby though so, take that with a grain of salt of course).
There is the Order of Hermes, made up of mages, who live and work in covenants (which are absolutely functioning as a convent as well in that there's a community element and the Hermetic Vow). That was enough to pique my interest, and now I'm looking through the supplementary reference book called Realms of Power: The Divine, which details the mechanics of how the 3 Abrahamic religions, God, The Church, angeles, saints, demons, all come into game play and strengthen/weaken your characters. I'm blown away at the quality of the research the writers must've done. Some of it reads like actual theological texts!!
Looking for an angelic grimoire tradition after dwelling a while in paganism and coming back to christ.
I’ve been recommended the Heptameron as a very good classical angelic christian Grimoire and was wondering if anyone around here has experience working with it and would recommend it.
Edit: I’m well aware that prayer, faith and intimate connection with God, his angels and the saints is more than enough to work wonders, and I’ve received inmense blessings through this methods. I just think it wouldn’t hurt to also have in view a more structured system of working woth God’s angels.
Hey everyone, I've been interested in the occult for a long time and I've been recently looking for how to get started learning it within a Christian (and more specifically Catholic) framework. How would I go about doing this?
I’m 17 & new to reading psalms. Every night I light a white candle & pray psalms 91 & 23 out loud but I also wanna do some protection work for my mother so how would I do that?
Have any of you had any direct experiences with Angels that you'd like to share? I'll start with my own. So about two years ago I met up with a friend of mine for a tarot reading and psychic reading season, we finished them both after about 25 minutes or so, and then she proceeds to bring out a crystal pendulum, invoke the name of the Archangel Raphael, and started speaking in Toungs for about a minute saying a prayer only intelligible to her, the angel, and her creator. after coming out of a trance she asks the Archangel questions on my behalf to be answered by a swirling of the pendulum right for yes, left for no. She asks it a few questions and the pendulum was moving slowly but was moving yes, every time. she asked a very personal question for me and the wing began to pick up immediately and started moving the pendulum in the opposite direction as it had for the other questions. After that she finished, and couldn't remember speaking in Toungs, or being entranced or any of the angelic work she'd done. I know my words probably aren't doing it justice, but it was truly one the most profound, supernatural spiritual experiences of my life that I'll never forget. Raphael has been my guiding angel ever since. (Coincidentally, in the late 1950's my mother, when she was a little girl, had contracted polio. I have heard the story my entire life how she says her mother took her into church, put a hand on her head and another in the air and began speaking a prayer in Toungs between only her and "her creator" as she put it, and she was cured of the illness within the year. Knowing that Raphael is the Archangel of healing I can't help but wonder now if there is any connection...) Anyway, just thought I would share, as this seemed like the proper community for it.
I am looking for some advice on this and would like to hear from someone who is currently living with an open heart from unceasing prayer.
Keeping my heart open all day via unceasing prayer is a bit intense energetically and am wondering how a person goes about handling it or if they only open their heart certain times a day during devotion.
(As per The Way of the Pilgrim)
Thanks!
So I am considering beginning occult practice and from what I have seen medieval theurgia seems like a promising path for me, however I am struggling to find much information on it. Is there anyone here who practices theurgy who could shed some light on the details of what it is and how to get started? I also would like to know how it differs from solomonioc ceremonial magick and what the later entails as well. I prefer to work with primary sources so any medieval texts on the topic would be appreciated.
I know now that Chinese ancestor rites is now considered fine to do by the mainstream Church but as someone of Southeast Asian origins, in my house my parents put plates and cups of food and drinks in front of the Crucifix and Mary statues at the home altar and other religious arts across the house.
I'm wondering if a mortal sin is being committed? I know that priests are known to tolerate a similar practise by poor people across Latin Americans doing it in private in their residence. So I'd assume this is not necessarily outright idolatry? Especially with Chinese ancestor Rites having good offerings done in front of deceased relatives?
In particular how does it go when done with intercessory prayers asking for petitions from the figure featured in the particular artwork being used?
I think I’d like to join the Rosicrucians. I’d like to talk to one if possible. If you’re open to some questions please let me know :)
The Ain Soph is our atomic star. This star radiates within the absolute abstract space full of glory. Precisely in this order, Kether (the Father), Chokmah (the Son), and Binah (the Holy Spirit) of every human being emanate from this star. The Ain Soph, the star that guides our interior, sent its ray into the world in order to become cognizant of its own happiness.
Happiness without cognizance of happiness is not real happiness.
The ray (the Spirit) had cognizance as a mineral, plant, and animal. When the ray incarnated for the first time within the wild and primitive human body, the ray awoke as a human being and had self-cognizance of its own happiness. Then the ray could have returned into its own star that guides its interior.
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I want it to be a sort of pacifist Christian version of Kamar Taj from Doctor Strange.
Hello everyone, I’ve been reading various books on occult and esoteric practices, combining different elements and essentially creating my own system by gathering and applying what I’ve learned. However, I’d like to start following a complete and tested system based on Christianity. Are there any books that offer a complete system? I would really appreciate your answers. Thank you.
I did a lot of daemonology qabalah stuff in my early years of 14-20, I think when I was 21 or 22 I started doing hoodoo and praying to saints because I was curious due to the rumors from friends online and in real life who swear by its simple power. Fast foreward 10 years. I did workings with whatever (I started with chaos magick and moved to LHP, so morally the powers I worked with were... Diverse?
For most my twenties. I did a 3 years of devotion to Ishtar, due to my interest in Mesopatamian history. Eventually I felt like I was being decieved, maybe even estranged by the force I was constantly providing energy and devotion to.
I even made other talismans, played with egyptian hieroglyphs and made ankh's out of clay (I still like the Ankh, its a cross right?), made some small eye of horus amulets, passed some on to friends, buried some in pet funerals, etc.
And since I just felt abandoned and like my voice was falling into the empty void with no response, I've just gotten tired and... I met a lot of people who swear by God.
My first experience of christian spiritual presence was in the county jail. I went to catholic bible study and he performed with us a Eucharist. When I consumed the wafer I felt a sincere presence of peaceful energy envelope my mind, and I think theres gnosis and some kind of power with God and Christ that gives people a peaceful spirit after a while.
I am interested and if so what are your experiences and warnings
I can't find anything about the Mariology of Hong Xiuquan and his Taiping Heavenly Kingdom online. So I ask for help. How exactly did they approach the Mother of God in their unique interpretation of Christianity? Did they venerate Mary just like Cathodoxy do? Was she viewed as the Queen of Heaven as standard in ROman Catholicism?
Yesterday I came across the "Biblical Tarot" deck, which seems to be quite new and independently published. You can find all information here: https://thebiblicaltarot.com/
At first sight I thought: "Wow, that's almost exactly, what I was looking for years!! A complete Tarot deck with clear and beautiful references to the Old and New Testament!" It seems to be well done - beautiful images, thought provoking bible references.
But than I thought: "Wait a minute! These images remind me of something..." And the more I considered these images it became clearer and clearer. I've been dabbling with AI for quite some time. And these images are clearly all made by AI - all these faces, the colours, that's exactly how the pictures Dall-E created for me looked like. This is supported by the fact, that no artist is given on the deck - AI generated pictures are public domain.
I don't know, how this feels for you. But for me AI generated imagery lacks the soul, that only a human artist can give the pictures.
What do you think about this deck?
I know a lot of you are probably well versed in occult matters but I feel like it's important to keep a solid balance with more Christian and less occult ya know? I'm actually a late in life Christian so I'm not your typical cookie cutter Christian at all but there needs to be revernt fear of God so we don't lose site of our place. However I'm very interested in deliverance ministery and think demonization is far more common than people think, what are your thoughts on the subject? I feel like TV, music Internet, drugs and alcohol and especially the wrong type of rituals opens people to slowly be compromised.
I’m a busy mom that can’t really sit down and read/study at this point (feral toddler, hah) but I can listen to videos, audible, podcasts in the car.
I hate to admit this but it’s difficult to read books are hard to follow at this stage of my life with my whole 19 brain cells so I love more modern language and explanations.
Any recommendations for exploring magick? (I think this is how you folks spell it) 🤣