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The Son of God

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2024/11/01
20:27 UTC

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All Saints Church, Oil on Canvas, Camille Pissarro, 1871.

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2024/10/31
10:25 UTC

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Luce has the power of God and anime on her side [by @CaptainVatican]

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2024/10/29
14:55 UTC

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Lil Devil with a Halo

I am Son of God, the Lil Devil with a Halo who carries the Light of God in my Heart, as the Spirit of Jesus is bonded in me, while Holy Death follows.

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2024/10/29
02:58 UTC

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Japanese Madonna and Child

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2024/10/26
01:18 UTC

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"Archangel Saint Raphael" charcoal on paper, 20 x 30" 2024

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2024/10/25
16:20 UTC

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Why Almost All Filipinos Use a White often Blue Eyed Mary Statues despite lack of Blanqueamiento in the PH? And esp in face of poor Latinos worshiping white skin but still using Mary artwork that resembles their local and social classes nonwhite physical appearance (as seen in Lady of Guadalupe)?

Post I saw on an archived web page someone linked to on Skype before it was eventually deleted.

Multiple posters have mentioned so many times of how Latinos worship white skin which is why the Hispanista movement is foolish and also a few have mentioned one advantage is that Blanqueamiento was never instituted n the Philippines an very few white Europeans lived in the country and intermarried so while pale skin s still seen as ideal, being dark skinned n the PI isn't seen as despicable as it is across much of Latin America........................... At least the Philippines (because of far fewer Iberian colonial influence), a dark skinned male can not only work across Span's colonial system to at least rise up in wealth classes and eve if he plays his card rights, rise up the social caste system Spain enforced in the country. For males at least, while light skin is preferred, dark skinned males are not denied being considered hot and there were brown celebrities who were sex symbols. In fact some of the earliest male leading actors were dark skinned (or at least not Caucasian levels of whiteness thus appearing dark n some shots).

Yet in a paradox........ For all how much Hispanics worship white skin and the mostly European descended castizos and Criollos who are the ruling class of Latin America and have their movie stars, divas, and beauty queens as white females................. its been a tradition across Latin America for people who use a Mary Statues that reflects their ethnic, regional, racial, and socioeconomic class in physical appearance.......

So in other words in Cuba for example the Blacks who are the bottom of the social ladder often worship Our Lady of Regla who is basically a black Virgin Mary. Dominican Republic has their own local black Marys. Our Lady of Mount Carmel, a pale Virgin Mary, is worshiped very frequently across Chile which has a larger proportion of light skinned Mestizos than many LatAm nations. The Indios create Mary often to resemble Incan and other pre-conquest Indian civilization ideals of beauty.

In fact in some nations with a more balanced outspread of light skin pigmentation you may even see variety of a specific Mary. The Lady of Guadalupe was specifically seen as being very Mestizo. So while most depictions of her are stereotypical Latino brown, its common to see her with lighter shades of skin in statues and paintings across Mexico. One cartoon show depicts her as olive that can appear darker or lighter depending on the scene and who she's standing next to and I seen Guadalupe statues that are milky white. As well as some as dark as your typical black American. As well as "redskin" Guadalupe Its a common thing for Mestizos and other lower classes in Mexico to choose a Guadalupe with skin color similar to themselves or more commonly closer to how their own mother or grandma or some female matriarchal figure appeared. So you'd have pale girls from poor working class families worshiping a crayon brown Guadalupe because their mom is a typical Moreno as well as well swarthy men who work as janitors choosing yellowish Guadalupe because they were born with Southern Italian olive skin and thus identify with tanned but still light skinned variations (even though ma and pa is dark skinned). So their is variety of representation for anyone to choose for Lady of Guadalupe.

In fact many churches in the country feature dark skinned Guadalupe and more popular European tradition like Lady of Lourdes to accommodate everyone in Church. Some Churches even intentionally will try to leave a white Jesus Christ with only a brown Guadalupe statue because the local priest wants to encourage integration and fight against racism. In some cases the Jesus will intentionally be painted iron or be made out of bronze or use some color associated with metals that do not exist in humans sometimes with ambiguous facial features in order to further prove equality of races in the Catholic Church right next to the Guadalupe statue.

So I'd have to ask why in the Philippines the Mary statues are overwhelming the ones used in Europe? In particular the blue eyed Mary in white headcloth and blue cloak? I mean the country is relatively liberal about dark skinned people esp males advancing in the social stratas even during Spanish colonialism and at least its possible for a male to be brown yet still become a sex symbol and even A list celeb despite the entertainment industry's preferences for light skin.

So how come unlike Latin America, Philippines use almost exclusively white Virgin Mary? Even despite the Church openly unveiling dark skinned ones in a few locations? Why isn't the local equivalents of Guadalupe popular for personal household use?

Indeed now that I think of it I do have to ask myself. Why is white artistic representations of Mother Mary so much the norm in the Philippines unlike other nonwhite countries that suffered under colonialism? Why did no equivalent of local Lady of Guadalupe ever come to be the symbol of the Philippines as the quoted text points out? Afterall other countries with Catholics as a tiny minority such as Vietnam and Morocco have Mother Mary artwork used in reverence that looks like the commoner of said countries or at least fit the very much non-white ideals of beauty as seen in the case of Vietnam where La Vang pretty much ideal features not common in Vietnam such as pale skin while still wearing Vietnamese clothes with physical features that are unmistakenbly Vietnamese in overall physical appearance.

So why are the artwork so commonly used in religious worship of Mary in the Philippines of all things a blue-eyed undoubtedly European looking woman? Shouldn't it at least be a Mestiza artwork in the vein of Liza Soberano that dominates since thats Philippines ideal beauty standards while still also having the vibe of the Pilipinas vibe in the appearance? What happened in the PH's history that made the physical representations used by the colonizers the MO in worship unlike in Latin America and the rest of Asia where worship of Marian statues and other artworks resembling the majority populace in the vein of Our Lady of Guadalupe or at least local ideals of beauty a la Our Lady of Arabia is the standard?

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2024/10/21
04:18 UTC

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FINISHED! My new drawing of the "Immaculate Heart of Mary" charcoal on paper, 14 x 17"

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2024/10/18
16:25 UTC

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Archangel Saint Michael Casting Out the Rebel Angels, Charcoal on paper 20 x 30"

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2024/10/12
16:00 UTC

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The Church at Auvers, Oil on Canvas, Vincent van Gogh, 1890.

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2024/10/12
14:40 UTC

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Picture I drew of St Archangel Michael

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2024/10/11
21:49 UTC

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Reflexion

If youre a catholic gamer, youll love our unique Youtube channel dedicated to God. Help me reach this goal: 1000 subs. https://youtube.com/@thelouisixorder?si=avnPc-2y_5szaXJo

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2024/10/05
10:35 UTC

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My drawing of Saint Matthew, charcoal on paper 18 x 24”

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2024/09/29
17:05 UTC

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2024/09/25
00:49 UTC

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St Louis, King of France, pray for us! Sketchbook collage from last night

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2024/09/23
00:49 UTC

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The Inquisition Tribunal, Francisco Goya, Oil on panel, 1812–1819

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2024/09/21
15:48 UTC

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A Heavy Heart to Carry

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2024/09/20
14:45 UTC

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Procession of Flagellants. Produced by Francisco de Goya between 1812 and 1819

In the foreground is a procession of Roman Catholic men dressed in white, wearing pointed hats and whipping their bared backs in penitence. Their backs are bleeding and they pull over-life-size statues of Nuestra Señora dela Soledad, the Ecce Homo and the Crucifixion of Christ. Other devotees, who are kneeling and wearing black hoods, line the route. On the right a man is impaled and all are carrying banners, crosses and lamps.

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2024/09/20
12:31 UTC

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Finished: "The Seven Sorrows of Mary" charcoal on paper 18 x 24"

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2024/09/16
13:40 UTC

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Drawing the Seven Sorrows of Mary

Day 2: The Seven Sorrows of Mary, charcoal on paper 18 x 24” 👉Available for purchase tomorrow.

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2024/09/14
16:18 UTC

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View of Saintes-Maries, Oil on Canvas, Vincent van Gogh, 1888.

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2024/09/09
10:25 UTC

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drawing timelapse

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2024/09/09
03:33 UTC

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The Blessed Mother stepping on “La Santa Muerte”

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2024/09/02
06:11 UTC

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SCHMITZWAVE

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2024/09/01
01:19 UTC

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