/r/brakebills

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A sub to discuss "The Magicians": the trilogy by Lev Grossman, the show on SyFy, and the comics by Lilah Sturges and Pius Bak.

Welcome to /r/Brakebills

/r/Brakebills is a subreddit dedicated to The Magicians trilogy by Lev Grossman and the SyFy series based on those books.

Finished some or all of the books and want to discuss them with other fans? Seen the TV show on SyFy? You've come to the right place.

We ask that you keep spoilers out of the titles of your posts, and tag your posts based on what they are about. You can filter out posts that you don't want below.

Please Use the Spoiler Tag

>!Spoiler text between arrows and exclamation points!< now turns into Spoiler text between arrows and exclamation points

Note that this does not work in post titles. You should NOT post spoilers in titles.

Subreddit Rules

  1. We have a 3-strike policy for untagged spoilers or spoilers in post titles. After that, you'll be banned. Anything from episodes of the current season or the novels is considered a spoiler.
  2. Generally, don't be an arsehole. Some people like some things, some people like others. The mods reserve the right to define "arsehole."
  3. No politics, porn, or polemic. The mods would please like one corner of the internet free of political discussion. You are not allowed to link to porn stars you think look like actors. We will not tolerate users starting fights for the sake of it. We don't want this to be a space to gossip about the personal lives of the people involved in the show.

  4. No misogyny, misandry, racism, sexism, etc. No misogyny, misandry, racism, sexism, etc. See rule 2 for more info. We are not OK with you objectifying actors on the show. We are not OK with your sexism. We are not OK with generalizing groups of people based on inherent characteristics.

  5. No repetitive posts. We don't want to see the same tutting videos and questions over and over. Please don't complain that the show is worse than the books or vice versa, ask if you should read the books or watch the show (yes, you should), or ask where you can watch the show (it is available to buy from iTunes, Google Play, and Amazon, and it can be watched on the SyFy website with a cable subscription).

  6. No Piracy. We want the show to last, so it needs good viewing numbers. We are willing to permaban for repeated offenses of this.

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Resources

AMAs

Lev Grossman

2012 in /r/Fantasy

2013 in /r/Books

2014 in /r/Fantasy

2017 in this sub

2018 in /r/Fantasy

Cast & Crew

Jade Tailor (Season 2)

Arjun Gupta (Season 2)

Brittany Curran (Season 2)

Felicia Day (Season 3)

Summer Bishil (Season 3)

Hale Appleman (Season 4)

Mageina Tovah (Season 4)

Stella Maeve (Season 4)

Arjun Gupta (Season 5)

Brittany Curran (Season 5)

Sera Gamble & John McNamara in 2017

Magali Guidasci in 2019

Sean McQuillan in 2020

Wikipedia Pages

The Magicians

The Magician King

The Magician's Land

List of The Magicians Characters

The Magicians (U.S. TV series)

The Magicians Wikia

TV Series Links

SyFy home page

Listings

Physical Kids Weekly Podcast

@HouseAtMurs - fandom twitter

Official unofficial Discord server

Unaffiliated IRC channel ##FreeTraderBeowulf

Episode Discussions

Season 1 (Wrap-up discussion)

Unauthorised Magic/The Source of Magic

Consequences of Advanced Spellcasting

The World in the Walls

Mendings, Major and Minor (Book vs. Show)

Impractical Applications

The Mayakovsky Circumstances

The Strangled Heart

The Writing Room

Homecoming

Remedial Battle Magic

Thirty-Nine Graves

Have You Brought Me Little Cakes

Season 2

Knight of Crowns

Hotel Spa Potions

Divine Elimination

The Flying Forest

Cheat Day

The Cock Barrens

Plan B

Word as Bond

Lesser Evils

The Girl Who Told Time

The Rattening

Ramifications

We Have Brought You Little Cakes

Season 3

The Tales of the Seven Keys

Heroes and Morons

The Losses of Magic

Be the Penny

A Life in The Day

Do You Like Teeth?

Poached Eggs

Six Short Stories About Magic

All That Josh

The Art of the Deal

Twenty-Three

The Fillorian Candidate

Will You Play With Me?

Season 4

A Flock of Lost Birds

Lost, Found, Fucked

The Bad News Bear

Marry Fuck Kill

Escape From the Happy Place

A Timeline and a Place

The Side Effect

Home Improvement

The Serpent

All That Hard, Glossy Armor

The 4-1-1

The Secret Sea

No Better Safe Than Sorry

Season 5

Do Something Crazy (Live)

The Wrath of the Time Bees (LIVE)

The Mountain of Ghosts

Magicians Anonymous

Apocalypse? Now?! & Oops!...I Did It Again (Live)

Acting Dean

Garden Variety Homicide

Cello Squirrel Daffodil

Purgatory

Be the Hyman

The Balls

Fillory and Further (Live)

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Hiatus Book Club

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Quentin didn’t skip the line

I am on my 7th rewatch of the series and always wondered how Quentin got to move on immediately. The I remembered that in s2 ep5 him and Julia have already checked in to the underworld. So, he was already at the front of the line just not dead yet😂

11 Comments
2024/05/02
01:15 UTC

89

I thought I needed a new Lock Screen so I made one

I think about him a normal amount

11 Comments
2024/04/30
00:47 UTC

55

All that hard glossy armor

Love this episode. May be because I’m a huge Margo fan. The music is a nice touch. Mostly, just love it giving her so much depth.

3 Comments
2024/04/30
00:42 UTC

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Can someone explain the in-universe purpose of tutting?

It’s my favorite type of casting mechanic throughout fantasy, and I have been wanting to use it in my own creative writing, but I get tripped up on the pragmatics. My understanding is that magicians draw energy from around them and combine it with internal drive (usually pain), and direct it with tutting. But it doesn’t necessarily seem like certain movements are connected to certain phenomena. I’d love to hear people’s thoughts!

15 Comments
2024/04/28
17:48 UTC

15

Charlie

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Charlie looks like an evil Ed Sheeran?

7 Comments
2024/04/28
05:17 UTC

64

Small annoyance about the show

When Kady and Penny are talking about tattoos, she shows Penny a tattoo on her wrist that makes her have 20/20 vision in the dark, but when she and Julia are searching for information about gods in dark alley ways, she uses a flashlight

27 Comments
2024/04/26
12:08 UTC

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Just finished season 2 episode 8: I cannot stand Julia

I find her so unbearably conceited, self centred, annoying, and just generally a dick. She constantly does things only for herself without thinking about how her actions affect others and shows no remorse for the result. I didn’t like her in season 1 but now that she’s lost her shade she’s absolutely unbearable. I am open to having my mind changed lol

49 Comments
2024/04/25
02:31 UTC

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How did Zelda know about Janet Pluchensky?

Spoilers for multiple seasons of the TV Series!

So I’m doing my annual rewatch right now, and I just don’t understand how Zelda knew about Margo being called Janet back in season 1 if it happened AFTER the great blank spot, and AFTER they defeated the beast? They didn’t defeat the Beast in any of the other timelines, and in some Margo even died. So logic is telling me that timeline 40 is the only one where the blue potion from Dean Fogg was used on the main cast. Right? Am I thinking too hard about this?

35 Comments
2024/04/25
02:13 UTC

101

The kids know

8 Comments
2024/04/24
21:00 UTC

119

I really hope its happening

Apparently there are 9 different types of shows they can create out of the magicians that will be just like or better than it I don't care what they put out as long as it's the same people that wrote the first ones!!

56 Comments
2024/04/24
15:00 UTC

18

Brakebills U website?

Does anyone know if there is a working copy of the Brakebills U website that Syfy hosted during the airing of the show? either that one can download, or is live on the internet? The wayback machine has plenty of captures, but they appear to use features that way back does not support. Or perhaps newer browsers no longer support them? I know it was a very complex website. Any method that anyone knows to access that content in any way is much appreciated.

4 Comments
2024/04/24
14:44 UTC

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Alice Quinn the Wise Playing Card

I made this maybe someone needs it, I can share files if someone wants to make it better

https://preview.redd.it/1gtgptpznawc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=9a016483caa0539770c1a380c298418a9d92b304

1 Comment
2024/04/23
21:09 UTC

50

I need help

I think I need some real help, I finished the series month or two ago then not even a week or so later started from start again and finished a week or so ago and now I’m contemplating starting again and I think I need some help I have an obsession, if anyone has another show similar the magicians to suggest please do

103 Comments
2024/04/23
17:27 UTC

100

Q’s Discipline

Quentin has a history of breaking things when he was a child e.g. his father’s model airplane and his mother’s ashtray. His Discipline of Minor Repair of Small Objects is definitely fitting especially since so many things in the series are broken, specifically the characters. Since you can’t fix the big things, you just fix small things because those count too, maybe even more.

13 Comments
2024/04/22
23:21 UTC

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What do you guys think of this edit i made? Think i did a pretty good job since i haven't done any editing in about 4 years

4 Comments
2024/04/22
14:29 UTC

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thought this belonged here ✨

1 Comment
2024/04/22
08:17 UTC

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Lampreys found to possess a proto fight-or-flight response neural structure

2 Comments
2024/04/22
00:07 UTC

56

Just a Behind the Scenes fact

Did you guys know that IRL Quentin's actor was married to the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.

15 Comments
2024/04/21
03:35 UTC

35

Just a rant about the end of 3rd season

Hi all,

I am watching The Magicians again after a long time, and man, I can't comprehend how could >!Dean Fogg betray everyone (except perhaps Alice) so badly.!<

Like, what the actual fuck? How could he let >!The Library to keep all the magic to themselves after Quentin and others killed the beast and especially after Julia became an actual God who was not only friendly but cured Fogg's own eyes which nobody else could fix before?!< I can't remember how the story continues, but I really, really hope that >!Fogg!< was forced to do this or he has some pretty good damn explanation for what he did.

19 Comments
2024/04/20
11:19 UTC

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Magicians TTRPG Collab Effort?

First, I will be very up front with this. I have ADHD. I recognize this could be one of those things that sounds really awesome to me now and fizzle in a week. Sort of hoping turning it into a collab project will help keep the flame alight and honestly, I feel more confident and world build better with people to bounce ideas off of.

This is all very ethereal right now. Was thinking I could find 4-5 people to try and build a system that is fun and feels authentic. My current thoughts is about 20% combat max with 80% narrative. I was also thinking a tier system, well not sure if that is the right name but sort of what whitewolf has where you have 4 circles filled for tutting, so you can do these sort of spells instead of having a stat that you roll each time. Or maybe a FATE d6 system. I just feel like d20 doesn't fit this world well.

I do got a lot of bits and pieces jumbling around in my head.

  • Two possible starting points with maybe a 3rd advanced one, Hedge Witch, Magician, and Self-Trained
  • A character can have a limited number of memorized 'spells' and then its a check to remember one you don't have memorized or to find it. My thought is that you will only easily remember spells you use every day. Sort of like math, there are so many obscure niche topics you may have learned that if you haven't used it in a few months to a year, you likely need to at least glance at its structure to figure it out again
  • Hedges would get bonuses to social skills, contacts and memorizing spells
  • Magicians would get things that relate to language, finding spells, and circumstances
  • Not sure if disciplines should be random or chosen, I see merits for both
  • Think disciplines would just be a blanket decrease in spell difficulty outside of knowledge, knowledge I think would fall under more nuanced things like finding spells, a global but lower difficulty in circumstances or being able to shift a spell to do something outside its normal scope
  • Languages I do not want to get too complex into, thinking maybe have it cost more to raise then other things but its only three levels. Native Only -- Living Languages -- Dead Languages.
  • Likely have an exotic tier that would be a list since those should be super rare like Fillorian. No matter how smart you are on earth, you are not learning Fillorian easily if at all.
22 Comments
2024/04/19
03:52 UTC

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Graffiti Walls

Does anyone have/know where to find pictures of the graffiti walls from each season? I kind of want them as wallpapers for my computer but I can only find low quality images of them and I don't really want to screenshot them while watching the show (I will if I have to tho)

Also if this is the wrong flair can someone let me know so I can change it?

8 Comments
2024/04/19
03:00 UTC

56

one true love...

I just want to say that till now I haven't found a show similar where I can transport to fillory land and feel like I live there, and be emotionally so much involved, I can't, it's like a first kinda love, god damn, now I'm like why did I even watch it, if I'm gonna compare all other shows with fillory, and never get that satisfaction after watching a show, ughhh, but anyhoo I have already created episodes on what happens when Margo presses the button😏

9 Comments
2024/04/14
18:56 UTC

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Do you think this will take me to Fillory?

I was walking through my backyard and came across this button washed in from the heavy rains. I'm looking for the door to open. Hopefully, I can send a rabbit to my family to let them know I'm queen and I haven't made any fairy deals. #themagicians

6 Comments
2024/04/13
23:54 UTC

76

Do we have another series that is just like The Magicians??

I finished the series a while ago with my dad and watched it again after that myself. I really really love the series. Is there a series that is like The Magicians? Just the same random storyline where you never know whats next and the same drama and amazing characters.

67 Comments
2024/04/13
21:28 UTC

19

Question regarding Rupert Chatwin

So in season 5 they say rupee bonded himself to filling and Martin put him in an internal sleep, then when the surges happened leading up to harmonic conversion but why didn’t he wake when magic shut off the eternal sleep was a curse and we saw that magic off stops curses like with q’s dads cancer and pick allowed to sit upon the fillorian throne, I mean one could also argue why he was still tied to fillory since that was magical

22 Comments
2024/04/13
02:32 UTC

51

Say after me

Slowly learnin' that life is okay

Say after me

"It's no better to be safe than sorry"

Quentin Coldwater Lives

7 Comments
2024/04/12
22:59 UTC

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Timeline 41

Timeline 41: Please feel free to actively Challenge me with known knowledge of both the books and movies.

Hear my out, The Books are ground 0 (AKA timeline 1) the tv show is timeline 40 with space for all the extra timelines in the book and all the direct timelines in the show leading to the last episode. Book 1-3, Timeline 1-40 all leading into the present moment, which I’m Dubbing timeline 41. where the magicians are being punished for pissing off the moon. And The New Class have to fix whatever has been broken, on top of our own shit. 

With The Multiverse becoming comprehensible to the “Muggles” it isn’t a coincidence that nature always has a loophole. And as a punishment to the High Kings & Queens Of Old Fillory (Plus Penny) for the moon’s destruction, Natures Loophole manifested as Fen (Oh how we love Fen) who isn’t the brightest chicken in the coop.

When she asked for the best of Fillory and the best of earth. No one put into a thought in the moment that there are INFINITE Earths throughout the multiverse and only ONE! Fillory (Now New Fillory). Due to it being created by Two Lesser known Gods. And as we learn about Magic, it is very literal.

So now we have Team “New Fillory” stuck there as we don’t know what happened after the last episode. And we can Assume that Fillory Being Fillory, even with the Best of ♾️ Earth’s and itself Combined are gonna have its own sets of problems. And from a firm magically educated guess (Even as a Filthy Hedge Witch Like Myself) the only logical explanation and magical clue given leads directly into The Magicians: New Class. 

Which I almost died multiple times trying to get my hands on a copy multiple times and quickly figured out that the same spell placed on the Team during The Completion of The Seven Keys Quest has been placed on me. But luckily I did manage to get some help from Timeline 0 (Ground 0) Alice in her Niffin form, as our Alice of timeline 40 was the only Niffin Alice to be brought back.

So from my understanding and research (Correct my BRUTY IF I AM WRONG, for my Fellow Knowledge Disciplines, “Check My Meta-Math!”)!!!! Meaning everyone who stayed behind has been warped into this new timeline somehow. And the Summer Bishil we know is a Rebirth of Margo, Watch Jupiter Ascending to understand (With further research I found out ones Jupiter Ascending can even span The Multiverse). And due to the already wack time difference between Fillory & Earth, there could be no telling how much time will be Wacked before New Fillory lets them back to earth. My theory is New Fillory has taken a page from Narnia book, meaning when Margo was going through her solo time loops it was like an Encanto level miracle allowing her to literally plan….So Which means, even if a lowly Hedge Witch like me can figure this out. I’m sure others can as well But anyway, a Message from High King Margo Of New Fillory….. Who’s Ready To Endgame This Shit💯🫶🏼

P.S: The Eclipse On Book One Matches Up With The Eclipse Season Happening Now.

15 Comments
2024/04/12
02:24 UTC

59

What now?

I'm late to the game and just finished the tv series...I loved the show...very sad to be done with it...any suggestions on what to watch next in a similar genre?

99 Comments
2024/04/11
12:13 UTC

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Did a thing. Part 2

Since I am technologically challenged today, I decided to just scrap the other post I made and repost here. I went and got some ink for my birthday and decided to get Julia’s finger tattoos along with the Empath symbol.

9 Comments
2024/04/11
03:41 UTC

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