/r/brakebills

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A sub to discuss "The Magicians": the trilogy by Lev Grossman, the show on SyFy, and the comics by Lilah Sturges and Pius Bak.

Welcome to /r/Brakebills

/r/Brakebills is a subreddit dedicated to The Magicians trilogy by Lev Grossman and the SyFy series based on those books.

Finished some or all of the books and want to discuss them with other fans? Seen the TV show on SyFy? You've come to the right place.

We ask that you keep spoilers out of the titles of your posts, and tag your posts based on what they are about. You can filter out posts that you don't want below.

Please Use the Spoiler Tag

>!Spoiler text between arrows and exclamation points!< now turns into Spoiler text between arrows and exclamation points

Note that this does not work in post titles. You should NOT post spoilers in titles.

Subreddit Rules

  1. We have a 3-strike policy for untagged spoilers or spoilers in post titles. After that, you'll be banned. Anything from episodes of the current season or the novels is considered a spoiler.
  2. Generally, don't be an arsehole. Some people like some things, some people like others. The mods reserve the right to define "arsehole."
  3. No politics, porn, or polemic. The mods would please like one corner of the internet free of political discussion. You are not allowed to link to porn stars you think look like actors. We will not tolerate users starting fights for the sake of it. We don't want this to be a space to gossip about the personal lives of the people involved in the show.

  4. No misogyny, misandry, racism, sexism, etc. No misogyny, misandry, racism, sexism, etc. See rule 2 for more info. We are not OK with you objectifying actors on the show. We are not OK with your sexism. We are not OK with generalizing groups of people based on inherent characteristics.

  5. No repetitive posts. We don't want to see the same tutting videos and questions over and over. Please don't complain that the show is worse than the books or vice versa, ask if you should read the books or watch the show (yes, you should), or ask where you can watch the show (it is available to buy from iTunes, Google Play, and Amazon, and it can be watched on the SyFy website with a cable subscription).

  6. No Piracy. We want the show to last, so it needs good viewing numbers. We are willing to permaban for repeated offenses of this.

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Resources

AMAs

Lev Grossman

2012 in /r/Fantasy

2013 in /r/Books

2014 in /r/Fantasy

2017 in this sub

2018 in /r/Fantasy

Cast & Crew

Jade Tailor (Season 2)

Arjun Gupta (Season 2)

Brittany Curran (Season 2)

Felicia Day (Season 3)

Summer Bishil (Season 3)

Hale Appleman (Season 4)

Mageina Tovah (Season 4)

Stella Maeve (Season 4)

Arjun Gupta (Season 5)

Brittany Curran (Season 5)

Sera Gamble & John McNamara in 2017

Magali Guidasci in 2019

Sean McQuillan in 2020

Wikipedia Pages

The Magicians

The Magician King

The Magician's Land

List of The Magicians Characters

The Magicians (U.S. TV series)

The Magicians Wikia

TV Series Links

SyFy home page

Listings

Physical Kids Weekly Podcast

@HouseAtMurs - fandom twitter

Official unofficial Discord server

Unaffiliated IRC channel ##FreeTraderBeowulf

Episode Discussions

Season 1 (Wrap-up discussion)

Unauthorised Magic/The Source of Magic

Consequences of Advanced Spellcasting

The World in the Walls

Mendings, Major and Minor (Book vs. Show)

Impractical Applications

The Mayakovsky Circumstances

The Strangled Heart

The Writing Room

Homecoming

Remedial Battle Magic

Thirty-Nine Graves

Have You Brought Me Little Cakes

Season 2

Knight of Crowns

Hotel Spa Potions

Divine Elimination

The Flying Forest

Cheat Day

The Cock Barrens

Plan B

Word as Bond

Lesser Evils

The Girl Who Told Time

The Rattening

Ramifications

We Have Brought You Little Cakes

Season 3

The Tales of the Seven Keys

Heroes and Morons

The Losses of Magic

Be the Penny

A Life in The Day

Do You Like Teeth?

Poached Eggs

Six Short Stories About Magic

All That Josh

The Art of the Deal

Twenty-Three

The Fillorian Candidate

Will You Play With Me?

Season 4

A Flock of Lost Birds

Lost, Found, Fucked

The Bad News Bear

Marry Fuck Kill

Escape From the Happy Place

A Timeline and a Place

The Side Effect

Home Improvement

The Serpent

All That Hard, Glossy Armor

The 4-1-1

The Secret Sea

No Better Safe Than Sorry

Season 5

Do Something Crazy (Live)

The Wrath of the Time Bees (LIVE)

The Mountain of Ghosts

Magicians Anonymous

Apocalypse? Now?! & Oops!...I Did It Again (Live)

Acting Dean

Garden Variety Homicide

Cello Squirrel Daffodil

Purgatory

Be the Hyman

The Balls

Fillory and Further (Live)

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Hiatus Book Club

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4

Is there a lot of magic in the books?

Is there a lot of magic in the books? I've been thinking about reading the books. I doubt I've read anything like it. I like the magic school trope and magic (cooler the better) in general. I've heard that the books are pretty grim and that the characters are pretty repulsive. But if there is a good amount of cool magic that's written well, then there will be a higher chance of me enjoying the books.

11 Comments
2024/12/04
07:38 UTC

5

Does anyone remember how The Beast got his name?

Long story short I'm creating a homebrewed, school based DnD campaign and I'm borrowing some story elements from The Magicians. Does anyone remember how Martin got the name "The Beast?" While its definitely not going to be a direct 1:1 into the campaign, the first big bad is going to be heavily based off him and I'm having trouble remembering where in the books/show they started calling him that and why.

12 Comments
2024/12/03
22:35 UTC

92

Penny is such a main character

Anyone else feels like Penny is involved in everything. He had so many, so many pivotal tasks. He's also apparently quite charming - he got with Kady, Alice, and Julia. Margo thought they were gonna bang too.

Like even though Quentin, Alice, Margo, Eliot and Julia have strong storylines and roles in the series, Penny was involved with the Beast before Brakebills, the bank heist, the order, the key quest, the underworld etc. I just feel like he gets a lot of scenes. Maybe it's because he's a traveler and we follow him around a bit sometimes.

26 Comments
2024/12/03
22:12 UTC

249

Season 3 is full of iconic moments!

1 Comment
2024/12/03
10:30 UTC

36

"I have done a lot of bad things, I have hurt people, ok, and the one thing I hold onto is that I know deep down that I was doing my best. Were you doing the best that you could?" "Unfortunately, at the time, yes."

5 Comments
2024/12/03
01:15 UTC

0

quentin

i just started the show and i really like the dude cast and the world building. but i despise quentin , he's such a pussy and he's bad at everything. does it ever get better?

11 Comments
2024/12/02
22:57 UTC

72

"This world, it's not just the bad things or the ones who wronged us. There is...there is such beauty in everything."

I'm currently going through a particularly difficult spell with my mental health, in part because my physical health isn't great. I watch the finale of S4 almost as I watch A Life In The Day (S3E5) and the scene in A Mountain Of Ghosts (S5E3) where Alice and Eliot are at the well. When depression is taking the reins, I only see ugliness in the world, in myself, in everything.

But there clearly is beauty in this world that I can keep coming back to this episode. I have a peach tattooed on one ankle and a plum on the other. It was my most recent ex who introduced me to The Magicians, he is one of my closest friends, and we've talked about how glad he was that I "got it".

I also feel for The Monster in this scene. I don't disagree with how the narrative plays out but you witness his development and the contrast to his sister. I know they needed to get him into The Seam, but I truly do believe he was learning empathy and was just a hurt, abandoned entity at his core.

I also notice new things in every rewatch I do (e.g. Hades playing Untitled Goose Game). In this instance, it's that when the rest of them head off, there's a last look exchanged between Q and Julia. And then the camera lingers on Julia. It hadn't clicked for me that this was the last time she saw her best friend.

I know I'm rambling. I suppose in typing this I'm just trying to do some minor mending on myself.

10 Comments
2024/12/02
11:08 UTC

5

Highly recommend the Caraval trilogy!

I'm on the third one and its giving me a lot of the same feelings the Magicians did. Without giving too much away, it has a lot of the dark whimsical "everything isn't as it seems" energy that Fillory has. It's aimed at more of a YA crowd but the writing is excellent in my opinion.

4 Comments
2024/12/01
03:17 UTC

28

Dune Prophecy Casting!!!

Just wanted to point out that Julia/Stella Maeve was cast as a bene gesserit (actually not bene gesserit yet, this is before they were called this) truthsayer under the employ of Duke Richese. She’s stunning!!!

I tried ss it on max, but it is copyright filtered and adds a black/blank photo to camera roll… if anyone wants to add her photo in the comments, please do!

Here is the timestamp where I noticed, her conversation between her and Mother Superior Valya. Because the mobile app player is trash and has zero functionality and utility, I can only provide the negative runtime since it shows the time left (what a stupid ass feature).

-35:20

I’ve added the ss here. Max is a stupid app. When you pause, it adds a rating overlay, and you can’t even ss on iOS app switcher. They very thoroughly do everything they can to prevent anyone from copyrighting.

Also, this is from Episode 2. ~30 min in after Valya speaks to Hart in his suspension cell. They are speaking inside of a cone of silence so the first few seconds her mouth is moving without sound and then it cuts in as the camera zooms into the space and you can see a good profile that proves it’s her.

They discuss the need for her to reign in her Duke because he is acting out of intense emotion—I won’t spoil why.

25 Comments
2024/12/01
02:15 UTC

16

Book 3 best so far!

Really impressed with this trilogy! I have liked each book more than the prior. I’m only 1/4 though with magicians land so don’t spoil anything. Just delighting that it’s not like many fantasy series that start strong and fizzle out. I really enjoy the many layers of nerd in this series, and the way he plays with literary genres and fantasy tropes is so cool.
Also started the show and gradually getting used to the characters who look very different from their descriptions in the book.

6 Comments
2024/11/30
01:05 UTC

1,479

50 Years! Who gets a proof of concept like that?

Just experienced this once again and now i am feeling lonely and pathetic

117 Comments
2024/11/29
17:35 UTC

12

How are the books?

Would like to read this series looking for your opinions

15 Comments
2024/11/29
00:19 UTC

24

Missing pages in book 1

Apparently a misprint in the rebranded/new cover art books. We jump from page 340 to 357 -- now I have to figure out how to read those pages without buying a new book 😞

10 Comments
2024/11/28
23:46 UTC

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How much would u spend on your fav magician prop?

100% authentic. I’m torn to get this prop that’s I’d super tell you about but I don’t want u stealing it from me 😭🤣😜🥲

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9 Comments
2024/11/28
07:21 UTC

18

A paradox?

First I just want to start by saying that I've watched the show repeatedly. It's to the point where I just about know all the lines.....

So here's the fuckery I still cannot figure out.

-When they lose magic it is said that magical creatures who don't rely on the wellspring, can still do magic. They even specifically name vampires & werewolves are part of this caveat. However Josh fkd a werewolf, which turns him into a werewolf. Hence he should still be able to do magic. Yet when magic is turned off, he can't. WTF am I missing? (FYI: I haven't read the books, but I just ordered them!!)

14 Comments
2024/11/28
06:04 UTC

161

I'd like to see a spin off of *The Magicians* showing what Alice did & saw as a niffim.

She said she was in the mirror world, saw the cozy horse, killed a family of lampreys etc. I'd really like to see a mini series about that.

31 Comments
2024/11/27
18:47 UTC

28

The Magicians Void Rant

The Magicians is my favorite show by far

I love the way this story is told and it feels incredibly unique among other shows (and I've seen A LOT)

Yes, there are other shows that I enjoy like but they are different (like Downton Abbey, for example)

The Magicians creates this world that you completely immerse yourself in, it's what we all secretly would want I think
Even being in our 20s and 30s we sometimes wonder what magic in our world would look like

Like many people of this sub, I gave Kaos a go and even though it's different, I felt like it filled that void at least a little bit and ofc it got cancelled

By the way, it made me think about something - I'm almost 100% sure that if The Magicians were released today, they wouldn't survive and would be cancelled as well

It's niche, dark and doesn't have mass audience appeal
Are there even ways to create anything like this now? Or we can enjoy one season wonders like Kaos for the rest of our lives (at best)?

p.s. another show that kind of did it for me was 3% on Netflix if anyone is interested (it's complete)

11 Comments
2024/11/27
15:48 UTC

20

So happy to be back!

I haven't had access to Netflix in a little more than a year, but as of an hour ago I have it back, and obviously I immediately put on s1e1 of my favorite show in the world . Coming back to the show feels like meeting up with an old friend. It's just so fucking great.

I've seen this show so many times through, and it never gets old. If my anxiety is through the roof, if i'm in so much pain that I want to stop existing, if I'm just bored and need background noise, this beautiful show always gives me exactly what I need.

The actors all look so young, or maybe I just feel much older since last time. But it's still the same comfort as it was, it's so reliable. Sorry for my weird rant. I'm sure there's a couple other weirdos here that understand what I'm saying but most of you are probably trying to figure out how to throw me in the hospital Quentin was in when we met him in episode 1.

6 Comments
2024/11/27
11:04 UTC

19

Inevitable crashing into Earth

Rewatching ep.2 theres a line Quentin says when he's get called back in by Sunderland, "Theres nothing I can do in this moment to stop the comet from crashing into the Earth, is there"

Then for the lunapocalypse in Oops... I did it Again Szn5 is all about them not being able to stop moon, in chunck-like comet likings from crashing into the earth.

Idk some1prbbly alr caught this similarity but I just found it cool how they had Quentin's words foreshadow what was to come. ty

7 Comments
2024/11/26
20:50 UTC

127

Played…

Hi everyone! I made a strange connection to The Magicians today. I just finished like my 8th rewatch last week and i wanted to start again immediately. (I know shocker) But in the last season we hear that when Quentin finishes a story he goes back to the first page. I feel like the writers totally bugged my brain with that line because now every time I finish the show it makes me want to just start over and watch the show on repeat forever. Anyone else feel this way as well?

16 Comments
2024/11/24
17:21 UTC

284

Looks like Alice finally finished her senior thesis at Brakebills…

13 Comments
2024/11/24
14:54 UTC

21

What time magic is this?! 2 minutes to watch whole series on DVD

4 Comments
2024/11/24
07:38 UTC

15

(SOMEONE HELP PLÀZE) Julia wicker rings

Can somebody help me find the rings Julia Wicker wore. Mainly when she was a hedge witch. like the amazing metallic thumb cover and other accessories. I’ve scoured Pinterest and Google and I cannot find it. I can’t even find a good picture of it, but I keep trying. so if anybody can help me, find it or tag places, I can buy it that would be amazing.

4 Comments
2024/11/23
00:25 UTC

145

Penny signing the contract with the Library

3 Comments
2024/11/22
19:23 UTC

195

OLU

On the premiere of this season of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I couldn’t help but think that Garcelle Beauvais’s costume was giving her OLU Persephone character vibes. (Yes she’s the actress they played Our Lady Underground).

27 Comments
2024/11/21
20:47 UTC

97

The Mosaic

I have a theory that Jane Chatwin sent Quentin and Elliot the peaches and plums and allowed them to remember… Just a theory, no actual proof, but it seems like something she would do. 🍑

9 Comments
2024/11/21
16:27 UTC

16

Were there multiple versions of the final scene of the series?

I've been having the magicians on in the background whenever I cook or clean where I can hear the show. The final scene isn't exactly what I remembered so I'm wondering if I saw a different version. I am also probably senile.

6 Comments
2024/11/21
05:22 UTC

8

Has anyone seen this youtube retrospective?

I feel like I am loosing my mind! A couple of months ago I came across a small youtuber who had retrospectives on 2 or 3 seasons of the Magicians. They were in the style of Mike's Mic and she was a university student I believe. I have spent about an hour searching for them and thought maybe someone here might have also seen them? At the time I think she had also uploaded a video about the first GoT season. Does anyone els know this youtuber's channel?!?!?

6 Comments
2024/11/21
04:10 UTC

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