/r/bajiquan

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A place to discuss all things related to the study of the Chinese Martial Art "Bajiquan" aka "The Bodyguard Style".

Practitioners are welcome to add themselves to our map:

https://www.reddit.com/r/bajiquan/comments/3iu2zg/rbajiquan_map/

Bajiquan is a Chinese martial art originating from Cangzhou, Hebei province. It has since spread throughout China and is gaining traction in the international stage.

It is sometimes referred to as "Pachi Chuan", and is often taught in conjunction with Pigua Quan (Also known as Pigua Zhang or Pi Kua), and as part of Ma Family Tongbei Quan.

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* An Jian Qiu [5th Generation An Family Baji] AMA

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Is all the Stomping in Bajiquan neccessary?

Please subscribe to the new channel, will update with more content like this!

4 Comments
2025/02/01
10:30 UTC

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I want to learn Bajiquan.

Bajiquan has facinated me ever since I read the manga Kenji. Ive always been a martial arts nerd, and chinese martial arts is particularly facinating to me, and have always wanted to learn a chinese style, and Baji's attack strategy appeals to me. I have a background in Karate, Tkd, tang soo do, boxing, and bjj.

The thing is I live in northern michigan, and the chances of there being a baji school nearby are slim. So I am thinking of at least trying to study on my own until i find a proper teacher.

So my question for you guys, what are some basics I can do for now, as well as any reccomended training exercises? The only move I know is the shoulder smash aka Tie shen kao (i probably butchered the spelling) or as I like to call it the Tetsuzanko.

6 Comments
2025/01/25
19:37 UTC

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Sanda+ Bajiquan

Hello everyone,

I'm in my first month of practicing Sanda with a coach I found here in São Paulo. Since I can afford it and the class has many university students, it seems perfect for maintaining the sparring aspect while I train the taolus and forms solo.

Based on the Sanda scoring system and other combat sports, which do you think is the most advantageous for applying Sanda principles? Some would say Muay Thai because of the elbows.

But I genuinely think that Baji’s specialty in "closing the gap" is more adaptable to Sanda. This is because takedowns are valued in Sanda.

Sambo also seems to me like a ruleset that could be adapted to a Bajiquan practitioner. It follows some similar premises to Sanda, but with more emphasis on takedowns and a closer fighting range.

Kickboxing, on the other hand, seems less suitable due to its "fencing" nature, similar to JKD, where the idea is not to go "all in" on the opponent but rather to engage and withdraw quickly, like in point-based Karate.

What are your thoughts? I plan to combine both in the future to see if Sanda + Baji can work together. Thanks!

2 Comments
2025/01/22
12:55 UTC

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Bajiquan X Piguazhang workshop featured at Wing Chun event

0 Comments
2025/01/15
03:09 UTC

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Baji Quan Trainer App: Any Experience?

https://preview.redd.it/op6fpm7vg7ce1.png?width=588&format=png&auto=webp&s=c821e2d2b04e62c97dd2237cd90c0ede4d87d782

Hello friends,

Have you ever used an app called "Baji Quan Trainer" on the Play Store, developed by "Zhen Style Wing Chun"? They have three apps—one about Tai Chi, another about Wing Chun, and surprisingly, one about our Bajiquan.

The most amazing thing is that the way they control the 3D models is perfect for reviewing the nuances of certain movements. I've made significant progress with some basic structures and wanted to know if anyone here uses or has used it and if they've purchased any of the packages.

Thanks

1 Comment
2025/01/10
17:58 UTC

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Reviving Bajiquan: Uniting Global Practitioners for a Systematic Approach to Mastery

Indeed, it’s time to organize this international community in a systematic and programmatic way.

Hello everyone,

I’m relatively new to the community, but I’ve been scouring the internet for systematic Bajiquan instructions, as here in Brazil, despite a strong Kung Fu tradition, there is no specific master of this art, which we are all enthusiasts of.

While Bajiquan’s spontaneous fame has gained popular appeal, there is clearly a lack of representation.

I commend the initiative in New Jersey and the efforts of some practitioners who, alongside Wushu, keep the art alive in Latin America.

Here in Brazil, there seem to be no representatives near me.

From everything I’ve read about Bajiquan, the legitimate practitioners of this art have never had the marketing ambitions that other Chinese arts have had. Even with its current popular appeal, this lack of ambition to recruit followers seems to be what leaves the scene fragmented… I’d love to hear your opinions on this.

I saw that there’s a Wiki initiative, but it needs to be better organized and should have commitment from the representatives.

Let’s organize ourselves with a clear agenda and methodology, so this movement can grow consistently.

I especially need the help of those who speak Mandarin. Apparently, there are more sources and references in the original language, for obvious reasons, that can be documented, translated, and organized into a structure that’s understandable for Western learners.

A note of hope: I practiced Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (I’m from the neighborhood of the creators!) and over the years I’ve seen people learn a lot by themselves. They understood the concepts, applied them to themselves, and became deeply immersed in the principles and practice.

Of course, learning from a master accelerates the process. But just as students have observed masters over centuries, we now have a unique power in our hands: REPLAY

The GIF. The ability to repeat, speed up, slow down.

We can use this to our advantage, reproducing and disseminating content in an engaging and professional way to the world.

We can do this. I count on your help.

One thing is certain: I’ll do it, regardless of others’ responses.

Wishing you all a wonderful 2025!

19 Comments
2025/01/04
12:50 UTC

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RIP Master Li

RIP

0 Comments
2024/12/25
04:24 UTC

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BajiGuèn (Staff) Online Course

2 Comments
2024/12/06
23:42 UTC

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is there a bajiquan club in the Philippines?

2 Comments
2024/12/04
14:20 UTC

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八极拳 - 练习 - Bajiquan Lianxi - Ismet Himmet

11 Comments
2024/11/11
12:17 UTC

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Mabu Advice

Hey all I’m new to Bajiquan and am starting my with learning Mabu. I think my back is straight enough but the stance still looks awkward to me. Any tips?

12 Comments
2024/10/04
00:07 UTC

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Bajiquan!

2 Comments
2024/09/29
17:28 UTC

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Meaning of “cuoti” or “Scrubbing Kick”

Was wondering if anyone knew the meaning behind the characters of this kick so I can get a deeper meaning on what it’s for. I get that it’s for attacking the shin, but I wanted to see if it can be used for more, and I’m looking for some hints in the name.

3 Comments
2024/09/26
23:58 UTC

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BajiQuan LiuDaKai Explained [Baji Wasa]

0 Comments
2024/09/23
13:44 UTC

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Use for “Sanzheng Ti” or “3 direction kick”

https://youtu.be/3MC06wXwJdM?si=99VLMnEySiIHwxV1

In this video, the instructor discusses this kick as being used to hit multiple people at the same time. Upon initially trying it, it didn’t feel very powerful, and the argument that it is supposed to hit 2 people at once is hard to believe.

Does anyone have tips on generating power and potential uses for this kick?

3 Comments
2024/09/22
22:57 UTC

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The BEST Bajiquan remote training platform!

0 Comments
2024/09/21
17:51 UTC

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Lethwei Vs Bajiquan

Haven't seen any exchanges between these two martial arts at all. Curious to know who ya'll think would win. Lethwei rules because it's the closest thing to a real street fight.

12 Comments
2024/09/18
18:36 UTC

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Purpose of Stances

https://youtu.be/tAGClUIu6N4?si=lEOgZRDGymq_NbPA

For the stances described in this video:

4-6 Bow Slope Horse Resting Golden rooster Drop

When would I be in these stances or variants of these stances in a fight? I have my own theories but I wanted to hear what you all thought.

9 Comments
2024/09/15
11:35 UTC

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Looked online and can't find any teachers. Does anyone know anyone who teaches bajiquan in the vancouver area?

3 Comments
2024/09/08
23:40 UTC

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Does anyone know who this might be?

https://www.facebook.com/reel/8185035734875817/

He looks quite solid and relaxed at the same time.

6 Comments
2024/08/20
21:31 UTC

3

Lineages

How many lineages are there for Bajiquan? What are the differences exactly between them?

Where can I learn more?

2 Comments
2024/08/12
04:47 UTC

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March Bajiquan/Piguazhang (八極拳/劈掛掌) sparring after Kung Fu class

0 Comments
2024/08/10
03:49 UTC

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Nian Bu / Grinding Step comparisons

Following a convo in another thread over on r/ kungfu, I figured it's worth opening up some chat!

What have you been taught/observed with regard to this? Usage? Application? Training?

Any insights you can share? Or differences/similarities you've noticed between lineages and/or even martial arts.

Some reference videos:

Let's get some technique talk going

6 Comments
2024/07/05
16:06 UTC

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YouTube channel for Mengcun Wu Family Kaimen Bajiquan

www.youtube.com/@bajiquan4775

For those looking to see how Kaimen Bajiquan curriculum is like, this is the (probably) official channel of the school.

5 Comments
2024/06/20
15:42 UTC

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Controversial question, but where can I learn Baji Quan online?

I've seen a video of this Japanese man, Miyahira Tamotsu from the channel, Kuro-obi world, and Kokoro from Dead or Alive. Baji Quan looks pretty interesting to me. And a new movie, named Twilight of Warriors: Walled In, the character, Cyclone played by Louis Koo seems to use Baji Quan too, but correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm from Malaysia, and from this subreddit's map of Baji Quan, the closest one to me is Taiwan. That's 3000 kilometers or 2000 miles.

I want to delve a little bit into Baji Quan to see if I like it, are there any Baji Quan tutorials online? Preferably forms to start with. How many forms are there? I've heard there's the Small Frame, Big frame and many more. What are the concept for these forms and it's uses? What's the distribution of force in your front and back legs?

I know learning Baji Quan online is not exactly realistic, but I just want to try out the forms to see if I like it or not.

21 Comments
2024/06/04
17:23 UTC

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Bajiquan/Piguazhang sparring after class

1 Comment
2024/06/03
06:17 UTC

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