/r/ArtInvesting

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Art investing is as ancient as art itself. Civilizations and their rulers have always invested in art as a symbol of their power. Ancient armies busied themselves with looting the art whenever it could be found. Investing in fine art, paintings, sculptures, antiques, antiquities, etc.

About this subreddit

Art investing is as ancient as art itself. Civilizations and their rulers have always invested in art as a symbol of their power. Ancient armies busied themselves with looting the art whenever it could be found. Investing in fine art, paintings, sculptures, antiques, antiquities, etc.

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Subreddit history:

  • 2016 Sep 16: 1 subscriber.
  • 2018 May 18: 100 subscribers.

Rules

  1. Upvote. Often. Encouragement brings beautiful art.
  2. We prefer art that are already sold, or not for sale. This rule is intended to discourage spam.
  3. Major auction house items, especially newsworthy ones, can be an exception to rule #1, if the mods allow it. Sotheby's, Christie's, and Heritage Auctions are examples of major auction houses.
  4. It is OK for reputable professional dealers to make educational posts to draw attention to their business.
  5. Posts about art to buy, sell, or trade are allowed if moderators approve.
  6. Cross-posting is encouraged, both TO and FROM this subreddit.
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Best Styles/Mediums/Age to Invest In?

I'm a forex/crypto trader, but I used to paint religious icons (egg tempera, gold gilded background and all that stuff) for a living a long time ago. I was always interested in art. Ten years ago I bought 5 watercolor paintings from a local, talented artist. The amount I paid for them is considered pocket money now. So I learned art is actually a very good hedge against inflation.

I'd like to start collecting some artworks, but first I'd like to learn which ones appreciate the most. Which ones give the best return on investment?

Oil paintings, acrylic, watercolor? Small sized artworks or big ones? Paintings that are painted recently, or maybe vintage ones, or some works from late 19th century? Landscapes, portraits, still nature, abstract paintings?

What should I look for if my goal is to buy pieces of art that will increase in value during the next 20, 30 years?

Thanks!

3 Comments
2022/10/26
15:25 UTC

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Where to Store Art Work Purchases?

I’m looking to start buying art work this year. Where do people store art work they purchase as investments? Any advice?

7 Comments
2022/09/24
01:03 UTC

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Do Victor Vasarely originals hold value long-term?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Vasarely

Talking about original limited editions. Specifically sculptures and prints.

2 Comments
2022/09/07
19:10 UTC

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Look like you guys choose the yellow door,twentyfaced and GabTheGayFrog.

0 Comments
2022/08/13
21:40 UTC

1

What was your latest investment and why?

8 Comments
2022/08/13
15:47 UTC

2

You guys choose a yellow door.

0 Comments
2022/08/13
04:09 UTC

3

I just enter The Doors in my dream again...So anyone help me choose this door? It look different,some reason.I guess?

15 Comments
2022/08/12
17:40 UTC

3

Is just me or The Red Doors

2 Comments
2022/08/11
09:02 UTC

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Art Investment Opportunity

What happens if an artist stays true to his craft?

What happens if he is SO obsessed that his art consumes all of his time?

What happens if he is repulsed by the "art" world?

MAYBE he will seclude himself, producing some of the greatest works of our generation...unnoticed.

MAYBE someone who can appreciate the value of his art will end up meeting him.

Maybe that person has no experience in art selling, start googling stuff and end up on r/ArtInvesting.

If you wanna know more about what could the greatest investment of your life, contact me.

1 Comment
2022/08/05
11:34 UTC

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Does anyone know of any art dealers that would consider selling NFTs? I have a few designs I would like to be sold through a reputable dealer

1 Comment
2022/07/25
11:59 UTC

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Dear Investors and art enthusiasts! We are conducting research on how to innovate an art platform as part of our "Business Models and Value Chains" course at CBS. Please fill out this short survey :)

0 Comments
2022/05/26
13:00 UTC

1

Visiting Paris in July

I want to set aside some time to visit some galleries and buy some art. I’m a newbie…can anyone suggest a few galleries? I’m primarily interested in paintings and sketches. Prefer modern and contemporary…

0 Comments
2022/05/19
06:53 UTC

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paranoid. made in 2020 by me (cqlone)

2 Comments
2022/04/01
11:41 UTC

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The biggest Johfra Bosschart collection in the world for sale

Google Johfra and you will find an endless stream of world famous artworks. Many communities write about the major influence Johfra Bosschart has had over the world. From Colombia to Australia, from The United States to his home country The Netherlands. Although many people will recognize the zodiac paintings that have been published as posters in the 70’s, not everyone knows about the absolute pioneer of fantastic realism in The Netherlands and his mind boggling oeuvre. And there is a good reason for it. Not only has the artist struggled with his underdog status all the way up to his death in 1998, but the biggest Johfra collection in the world has stayed hidden in storage for decades.

It is wonderful to see that Johfra’s art has found a new audience and is being talked about internationally. Occult, Fantasy and Sci-Fi lovers around the world are re-discovering his works and are realizing the impact his art has had on movies, comics, videogames and on contemporary art in general.

I am one of those Johfra lovers. After studying art history and working in the art world for around 10 years I met Van Soest in person. Although his collection does not fit into the traditional art world, I was completely captivated by the amazing artworks he has gathered. Names like HR Giger, Safonkin, Kostetsky, Beksinski and of course Johfra. He made clear to me that he had tried to create a museum for his collection numerous times but at the same time had some serious setbacks when it comes to his personal health. I have spent days talking to Van Soest about the artworks but especially about the endless source of wild stories about the artists he forged a personal relationship with. For Van Soest the collection as it stands today is complete by having published the catalog. He sees it as a manifestation of his life work. He is ready to pass it on and is looking to sell the entire collection as a whole and is hoping an investor will make sure it ends up in a place where the public can enjoy a curated selection of imaginary realism. That means the biggest Johfra Bosschart collection in the world is looking for a new home.

Koos Weel - Pathos Gallery

2 Comments
2022/03/11
17:11 UTC

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Jasper Johns as an investment?

I just randomly spoke with an art investor and he told me an artist to invest in right now would be Jasper Johns before he passes away. What are your thoughts?

4 Comments
2022/01/29
03:49 UTC

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Richard Hambleton

Simple question.

Is he overhyped by galleries as a bid for them to make a quick buck? Or do people genuinely think he will be the next banksy, warhol, basquiat with pieces selling for millions?

4 Comments
2022/01/18
23:48 UTC

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Brand new, where should I begin?

I'm a real estate agent and investor and my last client planted a seed in my head about investing in contemporary art. Apparently they out paced the S&P by at least 150% over the last few decades??

Where can I start reading, watching and listening about art investing? I know nothing about art, less than nothing. I skipped it entirely during my formal education.

3 Comments
2022/01/17
14:45 UTC

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Tyler Shield

His prints are beautiful. But what are your thoughts on them as an investment?

5 Comments
2022/01/16
23:34 UTC

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Unique signatures

I’m a Biophysicist with a passion for art. I can create unique microscopic patterns on art work that cannot be copied or altered. This proves the art you purchased is produced by the artist and is not a forgery which in turn, restricts the supply. Due to this, I have kind of been comparing this to an NFT in terms of the protection it provides. Is this something people think could be a good business?

1 Comment
2021/12/23
20:48 UTC

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How do I buy prints from high profile artists like murakami and jerkface?

For most artists buying a print is as simple as buying it off their webpage or a publishers webpage, but for some higher profile artists I see that they have been releasing limited prints and have been unable to figure out where they were released (e.g. https://www.artsy.net/artwork/jerkface-buhbye). Were these sold at the actual gallery show?

4 Comments
2021/11/28
04:00 UTC

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Are vintage limited edition posters like this one worth collecting? I have seen quite a surge for this lately!

0 Comments
2021/08/21
21:22 UTC

2

How about Pink on Teal Marilyn by Warhol😍🥰🤩

1 Comment
2021/08/21
17:50 UTC

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BEST WAY TO INVEST IN ART

1 Comment
2021/07/14
21:02 UTC

1

Margin Call: Group Effort

Margin Call: Group Effort is a Game about investing into various good and bad stocks, crypto, metal, and other various distractions. This is a game about being distracted by every day events, working together and making your own decisions.

Since I have this strong urge to teach my friends about investing, and I still have the bug to play games, this seems like a match made in heaven. I know a lot of people out think the same way, so I am giving this game away as a JPG file as soon as I obtain the ™ rights of the name and logo (I have already paid and scheduled an appointment with an attorney). After that, I am comfortable sharing my baby with you.

The game is played as a 1v1 as well as up to 8 players. The entire first edition will come together in a box complete with over 280 unique cards, game explanation, rules, dice and other helpful props once I gather the funds for printing and production.

At the moment I have completed:

  • All card concepts and text
  • Rights Application
  • Multiple playtesting 1v1 and multiplayer (3 player)
  • Rules and gameplay

I still need to complete:

  • Remaining illustrations
  • More multiplayer testing

At the moment I have commissioned artists to make:

  • Logo
  • Card back illustration
  • Box cover and playmat illustration
  • 18 card illustrations
  • Card Frames

I still need to commission artists for:

  • Nft design ($1kish)
  • Remaining illustrations ($2kish)
  • Rules and gameplay booklet ($20)
  • Chits ($5)
  • Dice emblems ($5)

I made a Kickstarter to crowdfund the process. It is fully funded by the grace of one person who believes in what I am giving to the world. I honestly lowballed the number, because I had a negative outlook on my expectations. This person that donated has reached out to me and has given me a full load of inspiration to complete this project ASAP.

At bare minimum, even if this doesn't become a real “store shelf” game, I will at least have something that I can give away to help other people in the process of showing their friends the possibilities in investing their money, rather than wasting it or even letting it sit still (not financial advice). However, in order to make this a physical game with nice and presentable game pieces I have a long road ahead of me. These are some numbers that most people with the same idea as me dont take into consideration at first:

  • Box to put the cards and game pieces in 1= $9ish
  • Poker size cards 18= $1.60ish
  • D6 dice 1=.72ish
  • Medium size booklet 1= .80ish
  • Large chits 80= 8.10ish

I would need to make probably 1000 copies for this to not cost me a whole lot more. When all those above are added together, comes to around $6000 just to make it a real thing.

My Kickstarter link

Margin Call: Group Effort by Kyle Chandler — Kickstarter

You have no idea how far even $1 will go

For those of you who would like to contribute to this project, I am gladly accepting help! I need:

  • backers/support
  • Artists
  • Literary majors
  • playtesters

If you wanted to maybe learn a little bit more about the game, please sign this nda and email to kbchandler86@gmail.com

Nondisclosure Agreement

0 Comments
2021/06/13
16:01 UTC

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Painting that is attributed to an artist without provenance?

A local online art auction has some pieces I enjoy. If I pay below $1000, I would still be happy with them in my home. However, I know the attributed artists don't have proof of provenance available. These are by circa 1940s abstract expressionist painters from NYC who are in high demand and original sell at very high prices. However, as convincing as the photos appear to be from the era and style, the works available are posted as "limited provenance from a southern Italian estate". I'm new to auctions and investing in older works, so I take this to mean it is most likely a fake. The painting may be real, but not actually done by the artist it's attributed to be?

Question 1: Is this gamble a worthwhile investment, or am I setting myself up for failure? The works are estimated to sell between $1000 - $2000. This seems like a lot if there is no proof. However, if they are deemed original, they would sell in the low millions at auction. Should I stay clear or take the gamble? Also note the price would also cost an additional 21% buyers premium on top of the sale price, 13% taxes and about $250 for shipping and handling.

Question 2: How much would it cost to have the painting appraised?

Question 3 I can see from the photographs that there are also hairs, fingerprints and a possible finger nail clipping on one piece. How likely accurate would having this forensically analyzed be and cost? The artists in question have deceased and the paintings allegedly were painted in the late 1940's.

3 Comments
2021/05/04
15:42 UTC

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