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This is a subreddit for the free and open discussion of history related independent thoughts and research. Including but not limited to lost or suppressed historical events, out of place artifacts, fabricated chronological timelines and discussions on the history of history (historiography). Note: This is not a "what if" hypothetical history sub. Redirect your post to r/AlternateHistory.

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This is a subreddit for the free and open discussion of history related independent thoughts and research. Including but not limited to suppressed historical events, out of place artifacts , alternative chronological timelines and discussions on the history of history (historiography).

Independent thoughts and research includes any ideas, events, theories, or research that may go against the official/orthodox teachings and or interpretations of history and what some scholars hastily label "fringe".

This sub is not about "alternate history" which is the fictional speculation of: "what if x event in history didn't happen". These posts are not forbidden here, but we ask you to submit a self post and use the [Alternate History] tag. Alternate History posts must have a tag and be self posts with sufficient context outlining your premise on said topic. Such posts are subject to removal at moderators discretion.

Above all else, we respect everyone's opinions. We hope you find this community to be helpful, informative, and thought provoking.


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Tape 1

The tape 1

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2024/12/01
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In the dusty corridors of academia, a new and unsettling phenomenon is sweeping through the ranks of seasoned archaeologists: Hancock Derangement Syndrome (HDS).

Archaeologists suffering from Hancock Derangement Syndrome (HDS) have become so consumed with proving Graham Hancock wrong that they have lost all semblance of rationality and scholarly integrity. Instead of focusing on actual research or advancing the field, these archaeologists now devote every waking moment to obsessively discrediting every single one of Hancock’s claims—no matter how trivial or unfounded—be it his theories on the pyramids, Atlantis, or ancient cataclysms. They comb through his books like detectives looking for inconsistencies, clutching at any minor error to weaponize in their crusade. Peer-reviewed evidence, data, and even common sense are conveniently ignored if they don't align with their singular mission: to prove that Hancock is wrong, even if it means ignoring the broader questions of history and archaeology. Rather than engage with the substance of Hancock's ideas, these archaeologists have devolved into bitter, overzealous critics, blinding themselves to new possibilities simply to defend the rigid and outdated dogmas they’ve long clung to.

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2024/12/01
01:36 UTC

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Wisdom of Ancient Indian Education: The 8 Limbs of Yoga and Beyond

The 8 Limbs of Yoga provide a framework for ethical living and self-discovery, delving into the real essence of concepts like Brahmacharya, often misunderstood. It redefines principles such as celibacy to mean balanced living and conscious energy use, alongside Ahimsa (non-violence) and Satya (truth). These ancient teachings inspire inner harmony and societal balance, offering a modern pathway to fulfillment by blending timeless wisdom with contemporary life.

Further details in https://drmohit402.wordpress.com/2024/11/30/wisdom-of-ancient-indian-education-the-8-limbs-of-yoga-and-beyond/

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2024/11/30
09:21 UTC

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New Megalithic Site in Peru?

I recently documented this site in Peru and found it remarkably similar to sites like Baalbek and Aswan which I have also been to and documented. The overgrowth prevented seeing the entire base of the blocks to investigate further and discover whether they were attached to bedrock or not.

I’ll be back again soon with better planning to spend more time there. This was a tough site to get to, even for an experienced traveler such as myself, but having been there now the next trip should go much easier and produce even more results.

NEW MEGALITHS FOUND in PERU!? - Megalitos de Capuli https://youtu.be/YrSZzcW9v2c

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2024/11/30
05:06 UTC

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Enigmas de existencia compartida, los doppelgänger, la media naranja o alma gemela, sincronicidad

Sabes que tienes 7 gemelos en este mundo 🌎 algunos piensan que encontrarte con ellos es una señal de mal agüero, hay quienes han encontrado mediante el software dedicado a ello varias coincidencias de sus rasgos físicos es decir a sus dobles más parecidos en imágenes de la red...Mundo Enigma, Misterio Digital, acompáñanos busca tus dobles

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2024/11/30
04:01 UTC

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El misterio los puntos de ensamble en tu destino y sus cuadrantes dentro de ti

Es posible que seamos programas biológicamente diseñados para las diversas ramas de un destino común, es decir somos una congregación de destinos ya diseñados para un propósito cósmico. Es una realidad en donde somos solo piezas programadas, e aquí preguntas y conclusiones del destino humano ...

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2024/11/30
03:11 UTC

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Pre-Historic Underground Megastructure Found in Russia - Khara-Hora Shaft

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2024/11/29
23:06 UTC

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Geological anomaly or…?

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2024/11/29
20:57 UTC

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Fact checking Dedunking Dan's video on the predynastic vases.

https://www.youtube.com/live/b7s_cGqdQsQ?si=5kvcH7izM8_IqQki

At 5pm EST today I'll be doing a live fact check of Dan's video on the vases. This will be part 1 in a mini series that I'm doing on videos trying to discredit the predynastic vases. This Sunday will be part 2 covering Night Scarab's first video on the vases.

I am aware that Dan has issued a retraction for this video, but he only retracted the claim about them fudging the digital scan data, and clarified that he stands by the other statements and overall conclusion of that video. So I'll be covering the other statements to see if any of them hold up to even a slight amount of scrutiny.

I won't be opening the phone lines for this episode, but I typically host a live call in show. After I finish the mini-series I'll return to the open lines format, if anyone wants to share their thoughts on the vases or anything else.

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2024/11/29
19:09 UTC

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Where’s Australia’s Megaliths?

There’s megaliths in Africa, Europe, Asia and the Americas.

Where are Australia’s megaliths?

We’ve got the DNA crossover of Australian aboriginals with South Americans: Science article: DNA links

And we know Australia aboriginals have been on the continent for at least 65,000 years, with some evidence to suggest way longer than that: Aboriginals in Australia

It just doesn’t make sense to me that someone didn’t build something massive at some stage…

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2024/11/29
17:27 UTC

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Creating an AH Instagram Account.

Hiya, everyone. For years now I’ve had an interest in alternative history, and an obsession with unraveling hidden truths of our world’s past. I truly believe many recordings have been altered to hide certain aspects of our existence, such as purpose, advanced technology, and potential spiritual connections, just to name a few.

I marvel over the idea of creating a page in which like-minded people can converse and come together as a unit, teaching, learning, and growing from one another’s ideas and perspectives.

I write this post to see if anyone has any advice on how to go about this, or if anyone is interested in following, or contributing towards the pages creation. What could be a page ran by just be, could rather be a page ran by this quite unique community. Thanks guys.

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2024/11/29
15:07 UTC

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I Discovered a Civilization OLDER Than Ancient Egypt!

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2024/11/29
01:22 UTC

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Tales of pre-Columbian contact

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2024/11/29
00:11 UTC

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Any reccomendations...

Hi there. Ive just joined this forum as a result of doing some research and thought I might ask a question to members here.

When I research ancient history, ancient texts and ancient figures, I have a very hard time grasping timelines. For example, when did Alexander the Great reign in relation to the bronze age. Or when was Plato alive in relation to when Moses was alive. What I think would help a LOT is a mapped out dateline of all this, IF one exists. Does anyone have a great dateline that they refer to which you would recommend. I hope this all makes sense.

I've thought of making one, but it would take a very long time and drive me nuts, especially if there is already one that exists. Surely, there is such a map out there already? Thx for reading.

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2024/11/28
23:03 UTC

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Ancient Global Civilization Across Asia and South America?

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2024/11/28
15:57 UTC

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Pelasgian, the sea peoples:

One of the sea peoples of uncertain origin invading Egypt in the Bronze Age Collapse are, in Egyptian, called the -> PELESET.

These are often said to be referring to the Philistine or Palestinian, invading the Levant around that time at coming in from a place unknown. Could be. 

Very interesting is that the Greek word for Sea is -> PELAGOS

As the island of Lampedusa is part of an archipelago called, by the greeks -> PELAGIE

It is not a big difference from only a letter S different from Pelagos to  -> PELASGIAN

PELASGIAN, are the early population and the creators of cyclopean walls, in places like Athens or Pyrgi. The Pelasgian have a very uncertain origin and the word Pelasgian is also unclear in its meaning. 

Gaining an "s" in the name, could have happened easily for those who lost so much, being overridden all around Greece (at least).

https://preview.redd.it/np6udjgadm3e1.png?width=1182&format=png&auto=webp&s=49724b4b1cb057c93fd15bb1f0419df8d0e216ad

Theory.

The creator of Cyclopean walls or Pelasgian are literally the Sea-Peoples. Pirates, escaping the expansion of the Indo-Europeans.

Like this: https://youtu.be/Xb8w3JEjYDU

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2024/11/28
10:28 UTC

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A true wiki encyclopedia for alternative topics of all kinds (alternative history, aliens, conspiracy theories, etc.)

For anyone who might be interested, this editable encyclopedia is an attempt to compile information on alternative topics, exotic technologies, conspiracy theories, aliens, and all kinds of speculative topics that aren't "well-sourced" enough to be on Wikipedia, including topics that Wikipedia covers in what many people believe to be an unbalanced way due to alleged systemic bias in "mainstream" secondary and tertiary sources. As of now, you can make edits without creating an account. Currently, the topics mostly center on aliens, but it is intended to cover history (including "alternative" history) as well. Feel free to create new articles and contribute to existing articles. As of now, you can create and edit articles without creating an account (although it will log your IP address). Here is a small subset of topics that the encyclopedia is intended to (eventually) cover:

Topics in natural science, archaeology, philosophy, etc., on which paranormal and ET-related sources offer notable perspectives that are distinct from prevailing theoretical and/or empirically determined explanations, such as the “hard problem of the nature of consciousness”, conservation of energy/the 1st law of thermodynamics, entropy maximization/second law of thermodynamics, spacetime, the nature of biological life, the nature and etiology of certain psychiatric disorders, the history of terrestrial human civilizations, the history of the evolution of life forms including humans, the history of the Solar System, nature of quantum phenomena, etc.; topics considered pseudoscience and/or pseudohistory; allegations of deliberate non-investigation and/or suppression of empirical evidence on related research topics (Göbekli Tepe excavation, Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.).

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2024/11/28
00:07 UTC

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Richat Structure - Discover this amazing geological formation and what caused it to form.

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2024/11/27
01:33 UTC

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2024/11/26
18:18 UTC

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Lion Gate at Mycenae is more famous than understood.

a) Minoan.

The current main idea for the Lion Gate at Mycenae is that it portrays a Minoan Goddess, with two lions, called the “Potnia Theron” or the “Lady of Animals”.

This Minoan hypothesis has the advantage of being contemporaneous to Mycenae, around 1500 BC, but does not make sense that the Mycenaean main entrance would be decorated with a foreign god from their rival city. 

b) Older Lady of Animals

The representation of a lady with 2 lions could be older since it is seen as early as 6.000BC, in Çatalhöyük. Sometimes called the Cybele and being replicated until recently in Madrid.

An older goddess being recovered could explain why the Lions in Mycenae seem broken or there is no room for the heads. If the stone was robbed from somewhere else, it makes sense it was damaged.

  1. Stone of Asante

There is a much more similar carving in the Stone of Asante, in Phrygia, Turkey. That stone has two lions and one column in the middle is more similar than the Lady or Potnia. 

The problem is that the Stone of Asante is usually dated much later, but it could be older, from the time of the Hittite, those not only liked the 2 lions theme in the Hattusa doors they were contemporaneous to Mycenae.

  1. Lord of Animals

Also interesting is the hypothesis of the column representing not a missing female goddess, as is currently preferred, but a male god. The “Lord of Animals”, one idea that has many other representations in ancient times, going all the way to India and the 4th millennium BC.

  1. Column is a Phallus

No other coincidence is as tantalizing as the masturbating man sided by two lions or leopards in Tas Tepeler, near Gobekli Tepe. The masturbation and the columns could have the same meaning, if it wasn't for the 7 or 8 thousands year difference to Mycenae. 

https://preview.redd.it/bkt6ud8gj93e1.png?width=572&format=png&auto=webp&s=7640d9faabbd8e68b5057c7eccdcd7e0c54b4904

What could it be? 

More about Mycenae: https://youtu.be/inwUqq9IJBI

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2024/11/26
15:19 UTC

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A Lost Civilization Older Than Egypt? - The Osireion at Abydos

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2024/11/26
03:54 UTC

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A Bit of Etymology and a "Nephilim Adjacent" Theory

First off, this has to do with a Biblical group called the Anakim. The word itself is supposed to mean "giants".

From wiki:

The name may come from a Hebrew root meaning "necklace" or "neck-chain". They were also a Rephaite tribe according to Deuteronomy 2:11. Their formidable appearance, as described by ten of the twelve spies sent to search the land, filled the Israelites with terror.

Now here's the etymology part:

In the Iliad, βασιλεύς Basileus was the word for a small king, while ἄναξ Anax was the term for a great king.

In Mycenaean times, the (W)Anax or wa-na-ka was the king (like Nestor in Pylos), while the qa-si-re-u was a kind of village administrator or guild master. However, the Mycenaean kingdoms disappeared around 1200 BC and new lords with very small territories replaced them. For these lords, the title qa-si-re-u was used which developed to basileus. Hesiod writes that these basilees acted as judges or local lords.

So Anax sounds a lot like Anak. It's from a different language, but one that is in the same region (Eastern Mediterranean). Anakim is simply the Hebrew plural of Anak.

The Philistines (aka Peleset) may have been a group of Sea peoples related to the Greeks (peleset = Pallas?) The Anakim may have been something similar.

Anak or Anakim would simply have referred to King/Kings, or been used as a name for the people. The Israelites checking out the promised land might have learned the local word for "King" and named the people after it.

The timing is about right too. The Israelite entry into the Promised Land was supposed to have taken place somewhere around 1400BC. This would have been the same time period as the Mycenaean Greeks (who used the word Anax for King).

We know the Greeks liked to sail around the coastline of the Mediterranean trading and setting up colonies. So it's entirely possible that the Biblical Anakim were descended from/related to a group of Bronze Age Greeks.

Edit: Downvoted to 25%... I guess I should have included some alien-human hybrid stuff. Oh well.

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2024/11/25
22:16 UTC

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Cyclopean Walls Origin

The original Cyclopean walls are to be found in the ancient city of Mycenae, Greece. 

Being the origin for this mysterious construction technique, Mycenae is filled with surprises. 

Comparing the different styles of Cyclopean wall in Mycenae with the undying ancient stories set in the city could reveal the true polygonal masonry History.

Hope you like the new video:

https://youtu.be/inwUqq9IJBI

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2024/11/25
12:48 UTC

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