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I would love to hear what this group thinks about this piece. Pictures and video don’t do it justice but it definitely has some composite material on it. This is truly a strange piece that I found while exploring a Bigfoot habitation. I know it all sounds crazy. I’m aware. lol. But I also know that I am not experiencing pareidolia.
Is there any chance both hypothetically and theoretically that hollow earth can exist? Maybe not as fantastical as movies portray them with a jungle landscape where prehistoric animals live, but something like the deep ocean where large marine animals live there, but much much deeper than the Mariane Trench?
Happy Saturday! Here are this week's Top 5 ancient headlines:
Archaeologists Reveal Hundreds of Ancient Monuments Using LiDAR — A recent LiDAR survey in Baltinglass, Ireland, known as 'Ireland's Hillfort Capital', uncovered hundreds of ancient sites previously erased by centuries of plowing. The sites include a significant cluster of five cursus monuments, the largest found in Britain and Ireland, suggesting these structures might have had ritual significance or astronomical alignments with solar events, potentially marking ceremonial routes for ancestral veneration.
Early Humans Spread as Far North as Siberia 400,000 Years Ago — Archaeological findings in Siberia's Diring Yuriakh site suggest that early humans inhabited this area around 417,000 years ago, a significant adjustment to previous theories. This location now stands as the most ancient site known for early human habitation in such northern latitudes, pushing back the timeline for human migration into Arctic regions by nearly 400,000 years (from 45,000 years ago). The discovery opens up possibilities regarding the paths early humans may have taken into other continents, as well as how long ago humans crossed over to North America.
Social Decline and Genetic Diversity of the Y Chromosome — A study of 20 years’ worth of anthropological data, primarily in Asia, indicated that the significant decline in the genetic diversity of the Y chromosome 3,000-5,000 years ago was not due to men dying in battle as had previously been theorized. The reduced diversity is actually due to societal changes like the emergence of patrilineal social systems. This led to fewer fathers, but more offspring, establishing a "founder effect" in genetic terms. Another example is the splitting of clans into subclans. These societal changes profoundly shaped the genetic landscape of modern human populations, pointing to a crucial period where social structures and practices influenced genetic evolution.
Carbonized Herculaneum Papyrus Reveals Burial Place of Plato — A recent analysis of a carbonized papyrus scroll from Herculaneum, an ancient Roman town, has uncovered significant details about Plato's burial. The scroll, deciphered through modern imaging techniques, contains about 3,000 words, 1,000 of which were readable. It offers insights into Plato's Platonic Academy, his enslavement by the Spartans, and his burial in a private garden near the Museion in Athens.
1,700-Year-Old Roman Ruins Discovered Atop Much Older Neolithic Sacred Spring — If you’ve been reading the Beat for a while, you know I love the topic of springs. Well, near Limoges, France, archaeologists have discovered Roman ruins from the 3rd century CE, built over a Neolithic sacred spring dating back 4,500 to 6,000 years. From Roman times, the site features a landscaped pool, a protective granite wall, and artifacts including coins and ceramic representations of deities. But the Neolithic is also in the mix thanks to flint offerings, including a dagger fragment. The find highlights the spring's long-term spiritual significance, from Neolithic worship to Roman occupation.
Hope you enjoyed this abridged version of Ancient Beat. Have a great weekend!
I'm reposting this because I've added a whole bunch of things from a certain German philosopher from the 18th century who was far ahead of his time.
Has visto el fondo de los conflictos bélicos?, el de los grandes conflictos sociales?, no son solo los de los intereses convencionales de los que aquí hablamos, sino de lo subyacente los signos y símbolos, los enclaves de poder, las sociedades secretas...Mundo Enigma con Tomás López
Here's new video exploring the mysterious origins of Cyclopean masonry in Japan
Hope you like it
https://youtu.be/axaVLXq3ot8
Been following this guy Billy Carson for some time now. It eases my existential crisis, true or not... Im wondering what are yall takes on him? Is he full of shit? Im just stoned at work listening to him, bs or not, atleast I got an explanation.... Link here
Hi everyone! I've been working on this topic for a research project in my history class. I would like to get more opinions on the granite fragmentations found off the southern coast of India. This is all to help me expand my thinking process on the subject and consider new perspectives. Thanks!!!
Ben van Kerkwyk from UnchartedX and Mark Qvist from UnsignedIO have done tremendous work on the vase analysis, demonstrating the ridiculous precision with which this vase was designed and built. We see similar ridiculous tolerances in the construction of the Great Pyramid of Giza.
Yes, there are questions about the vase's provenance. ... but there are no questions about the provenance of the Great Pyramid. Or are there? If we have to believe the experts, the pyramid was built around 2613–2577 BC.
But...
Then... why is the orientation of the Great Pyramid off compared to true north? It is off by about 3.4 arc minutes. And why is it not located at exactly 30 degrees latitude? These pre-dynastic Egyptians were no slackers for detail. They would have built it perfectly aligned with true North, and exactly at 30 degrees latitude.
So... what if we take precession of the Earth's rotational axis into account? If we assume the Great Pyramid to have been built with its axis exactly parallel to true North, and exactly at 30,000 degrees latitude, then when was it built?
I have experimented a bit with Chat-GPT, but it is not smart enough and just starts to add precession degrees to latitude degrees. I found this paper modeling precession. Unfortunately, math was never my forte. Is there anybody here who can model a) the latitude of the Great Pyramid as a function of age and b) the orientation of the Great Pyramid as a function of age, taking precession into account? This should give two cosines, which only overlap at times when the Great Pyramid could have been built, if we were to assume the pre-dynastic Egyptians had an eye for detail.
In the far reaches of our solar system, beyond the orbit of Neptune, a mysterious and yet invisible world may be lurking in the darkness. Nicknamed “Planet 9” or “Planet X,” this hypothetical celestial body has been the subject of intense scientific debate and speculation since its existence was first proposed in 2016.
Now, a new study published on the preprint service arXiv by a team from the California Institute of Technology, Université Côte d'Azur, and Southwest Research Institute has provided compelling evidence supporting the presence of this enigmatic planet.
https://www.ovniologia.com.br/2024/04/e-agora-nao-era-um-mito-a-ciencia-comprovara-nibiru.html?m=1
Dibble's evidence caused Hancock to re-define his "civilization" to the point where it was no different than all the other hunter gatherers that lived around the ice age. Cellestial awareness is not unusual but a normal human capability for those spending their entire lives outdoors. Dibbles evidence around seed structure evolution shows that agriculture is not something that was "invented" but something that arises when humans decide to locate themselves, seasonally or permanently, near sources of food plants. Hunter gatherers probably were more sophisticated than we give them credit for, but that is likely true of all of them, not some special "advanced" group. To bad the discussion wasn't more cordial like the typical Rogan podcast.
Kawachiya Jihei was a the last cyclopean builder.
He created a new technique, Turtle shell. That combined tight fitting with curved surface. This ensured extraordinary resistance, even against sea waves. To prove it, there's this breakwater dated from the 17th century.
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A tour inside the Abu Simbel Temple, carved into the mountain, an engineering masterpiece, evidence of the greatness of ancient Egyptian civilization. For the tour from here
Just wanted to get others’ opinions on this.
If there was a major discovery, of almost any nature, ET Life, human origins (alternate history timeline, pre-ancient civilizations, etc.), space anomaly that invalidates mainstream thinking, etc… would the institutions/communities (NASA, CERN, etc.), world governments, etc. even alert the public?
Think about it. Why would any major power want to figuratively unearth main stream belief with such profound information? It would just cause a public upheaval and invalidate much of the work that’s been done in the meantime. I know I’m not being specific but here’s just a simple and far-fetched example… let’s just say some kind of purposeful piece of architecture was found on Mars, like a temple or something, (not saying there’s temples on mars, this is just a simple example)… by letting the world know of such a discovery, people would freak the f*** out and question everything they’ve ever been taught. Chaos would ensue in one way or the other would it not?
We all know there’s so much we haven’t been and aren’t being told but I guess my point is.. don’t hold your breath for major news (on par with the Mars example) to come out. Because even if something huge is found or discovered or realized, the public will by no means be aware of it. It’s best to keep us in a bubble.