Just a silly theory I'm mulling over: What if Missandei becomes a dragonrider and becomes basically Nettles 2.0?

She's very smart and of low birth, like Nettles. Smart enough to find a way to tame one of the remaining dragons, especially since she's used to them anyway and they already know her as well.

That's it, that's the theory. Or maybe more of an idea. Anyway, it would be cool, and we need to move the story away from "magical Targaryen blood makes dragonriders" anyway.

Assuming the Blackfyre theory is true, then Young Griff somewhat bears a resemblance to Henry VII, the father of Henry VIII.

The Lancastrians (Targaryens) are overthrown by the Yorkists (Baratheons). The main Lancastrian line goes extinct. Edward IV (Robert Baratheon) dies prematurely and his brother Richard III (Stannis) declares his children bastards and usurps the throne.

However, a man called Henry Tudor (Young Griff) descended from the Beauforts (Blackfyres), a bastard branch of the Lancastrians (Targaryens), being sheltered by the Duke of Brittany (Illyrio?) in France, sails to England and topples Richard III with the help of his shrewd politician mother Margaret Beaufort (Varys?) and loyal uncle Jasper Tudor (JonCon?).

Henry Tudor then marries the daughter of Edward IV, Elizabeth of York (Myrcella), uniting the two claims. He seeks to become very close allies with Spain (Dorne) as they possess the closest legitimate Lancastrian (Targaryen) blood in contrast to his illegitimate Beaufort (Blackfyre) blood, culminating in the marriage of Catherine of Aragon to his son Arthur Tudor and then after said son’s untimely death the future Henry VIII.

I had a thought about what might be the "bittersweet" angle that George is working toward for the ending. All of the Stark children, except for Bran, will be dead at the end of the series and will have warged into their wolves for a second life to form a wolf pack (Sansa will warg into a new wolf). Bran will rule by day and by night, he'll slip into Summer's skin and join his siblings, reunited in death. "When the snows fall and the white wind blows, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."

Victarion Greyjoy vs Areo Hotah

The reason I asked this is because these are amongst my favorite POV characters from the books. Also I really appreciate all of your input and opinions. We all hear the jokes that Victarion is dumb as a stump and Hotah is essentially the camera that rides in the books. But seriously that stuff does not matter when it comes down to fight IQ. They both seem to be vicious fighters. As well as very large in size and stature. They are both pretty close as far as equality goes to strengths and size and all that and I believe it would be a good fight.

Who would you choose to win the fight and why? Valar Morghulis

To solve the problem of the show moving away from what the 'real canon' is between the various sources in F&B and so on, they could've made the whole thing Titanic or Hobbit like. By that I mean that the whole show is set as a flashback.

For instance the show starts with Gyldayn sitting in his office, writing F&B, and some curious acolytes or assistants start asking where he's at or some like that. And then they start talking about x and y. And the whole series has those little dialogues sprinkled in between the main story, as Gyldayn moves forward with his accounts. And obviously at some point he says that he's also got those weird accounts from mushroom that picture completely different versions of events. The whole show works around that whole theme, maybe jumping back and forth between Mushroom and other accounts. The watcher is reminded multiple times that Gyldayn himself can't say what's real or not, that even though Mushroom's accounts look like they're total BS some of them might be true. The series ends on Gyldayn finishing the account on the Dance, he and his assistant start talking about the whole takeaway or point or lesson of the Dance and maybe they sprinkle in a bit on the future years, looking at some other scrolls lying around.

I think that narrative could've added a bit of magic to the story. And made fans less angry on changing the real life book canon, by just adding other sources or accounts for events in the show. It's now too late obviously, but what are your thoughts?

What if Brandon Stark had gotten Lady Barbery pregnant after taking her maidenhead, and she ended up giving birth to a Stark bastard? How would this affect future events down the line?

Question was mostly based on jon saying there was just nothing after he died in s6 and me starting to wonder if since lord of light can show the future, if he holds you in a void till you’re resurrected or if there really is no afterlife at all

I feel like it would be interesting to have one evem if only to have a bit more magic/gods type aspects(even compared to books)

"It was not for murder that the gods cursed him, nor for serving the Andal king his son in a pie. A man has a right to vengeance. But he slew a guest beneath his roof, and that the gods cannot forgive."

—Old Nan

What are some possibilities for the identity of the Rat Cook?

Let's explore people or entities that are not House Frey related.

Could the truth be different than what the fandom has generally accepted? GRRM is known for twists and subleties. Could there be a big twist? Or echoing Freud, sometimes a rat is just a rat?

When it came to letting her family know that she thinks the Lannisters killed Jon Arryn. She writes to Catelyn, who she hasn’t seen in years, and who without Ned being named hand wouldn’t even be able to anything about it. Meanwhile the Blackfish has been in the Vale for over a decade, guarding the Bloody Gate for Jon Arryn. Why not reach out to him instead? Or at the very least also let him know? When she returned to Vale after Jon Arryn’s death, she literally would have seen her uncle at the gate. Did she just ignore him?

... piss and shit? If he just... vacated everything, one would think he would mention it in his pov... idk, kinda random question that me and my sister were asking.

You are transported with all your knowledge into Westeros

What do you do?

As a commoner or noble. And which region.

As I asked. Assuming George were to release TWOW and ADOS, how would you want all the remaining villains to die? Can be brief or add context. For me:

Walder Frey - It may piss people off but the idea of him dying of old age and revenge coming from his family tearing itself (or being massacred) is what makes the most sense, to me. In a cruel, cruel world at least one villain needs to slip away free of consequences.

Roose Bolton - I am in need of a reread of the series, but when I read the books last, I remember in ACOK, when Ramsay tricks Theon and leaves to get more men, before coming back and revealing himself, I recall Theon giving him silver from Winterfell. We don’t know how much so this may be a major stretch and my memory could be failing me. Book Roose is far more cunning than his show counterpart, and with the escape of Jeyne and Theon, he is going to be done with Ramsay’s shit. What if, Ramsay paid off the Bastard Boys to gain their allegiance and he uses them to turn on his father? Roose would never allow Ramsay a chance to do what happened in the show, but perhaps men he thinks are his could get him to let his guard down? In any case, him being slaughtered by men he thinks are his would be fitting.

Ramsay Bolton - There are basically two scenarios I would like to see. One is a scenario where Ramsay has Theon at his mercy and harms him in the presence of the hounds. We know the hounds have taken a liking to Theon, so it would be cool if they defended him by mauling Ramsay to pieces. The other option would be Theon, who should still have enough finger left to use a bow, saving either Jon or Asha from Ramsay. Both would be vastly superior in combat skill to Ramsay, but Ramsay is a filthy dirt fighter who would stoop to unfathomable lows to win after fight. After Theon finds a chink of armor, this gives the chance for Ramsay’s opponent to mercilessly brutalize him. If it’s Jon, perhaps Ghost has Ghost maul him and eat his heart.

Petyr Baelish - I think Harry the Heir dying by accident could start a cascade of problems for Littlefinger. He would suspect foul play from the Lords of the Vale, they would be extra suspicious of him in return. With all the death surrounding and trailing Petyr, he is finding it harder to play his game. Eventually, the Lords of the Vale and the Riverlands join up with the North and everyone goes to Winterfell. Sansa used Petyr for her own ends, while convincing him that he is using her. Eventually, through her own wits (she literally witnessed Lysa’s confession) she pieces together Littlefinger’s involvement in Jon Arryn’s death and puts the puzzle together. At Winterfell, and losing influence over everyone and everything, Baelish starts to make risky moves trying to sow discourse and chaos amongst the united regions. Seizing an opportunity, Sansa uses his own game against him and frames him for an attempted assassination. Perhaps against Robert Arryn or maybe even Jon or Rickon. Littlefinger is framed and executed for a crime he didn’t commit and is beheaded and his head mounted on Winterfell’s walls. If Arya makes it back, she can be involved with Sansa’s scheme, but Bran shouldn’t be involved, at all. Whatever happens, it needs to be more layered and complex than the show. Baelish’s moves are risky and bolder the more he is phased out, but he still plays the game like a competent schemer.

Cersei - Everyone wants her to be killed by Jamie, and that’s fine with me, but I would love if after the Others invade, and (F)Aegon invades King’s Landing, she is forced to flee with Tommen to casterly Rock. It would be really awesome if someone Tommen gets turned into a Wight and strangles her to death. We don’t know how far South the Others will get, of course.

Euron - Being slain by an Other would be cool. The forces he is trying to control backfiring would be cool somehow. A Kracken killing him, idk something with a supernatural or lovecraftian edge to it.

Varys - I’m fine with him being roasted alive by a Dragon, but the way it was done in the show is abominable. I’d be fine with him surviving and disappearing without a trace, too.

The combatants are lining up for the Trial by Seven. Lyonel Baratheon, Raymun Fossoway, Robyn Rhisling, and Humfrey Harding have already arrived. However, instead of Humfrey Beesbury, a slender knight in Dornish heraldry volunteers as Duncan’s sixth champion. They raise their helm to reveal their smirking face.

“Tanselle!” Duncan gasps.

“What madness is this?” Baratheon yells. “You are a woman!”

Tanselle drops from her horse and plants her spear in the ground. The rising sun makes her hair glow like a halo. “In Dorne, women fight as well as men.”

It seems like so many people were upset by the fact that Bran ends up being king, as if it comes out of nowhere and makes no sense.

But it does make sense if you think about it. If you look at the royal line of succession:

• Robert has no heirs
• Stannis had no heirs
• Renly had no heirs
• Daenerys had no heirs

So the only claimant available would be Jon, being of Targ descent, but he refuses the throne. So it would pass to his closest male relative who would be Bran.

The only other alternative would be Tyrion who was the last king (Tommen's) uncle. But probably, however the next king is chosen, Tommen will be considered a bastard, so illegitimate.

What I don't understand, is why didn't D&D realize that? It seems like Tyrion's ridiculous "he has a good story" line was the first draft they came up with and they went with it. I've never seen someone point it out when talking about the show's finale.

I feel like this is probably how it's going to go in the books if we assume that fAegon is taken out of the picture somehow.

How much would history have changed if Sansa and Theon had gotten closer after he was taken in as a ward at Winterfell and liked each other? Would Ned and Catelyn approve of that? Would Sansa have stayed in Winterfell in the beginning?

We often hear about King Aegon the Fifth's smallfolk reforms that were repealed by Tywin when he came to power as Hand, but do we know any details about these reforms and how they might have affected the smallfolk? Is there any mention of particular new laws and decrees?

So curious, and I don't know if Its been discussed before as I'm relatively new here, but according to Marwyn theres a "Maesters conspiracy" where they are actively working to rid the world, or at least westeros, of all things magical because it has no place in the world they are trying to build. But what world would that be?? What does it look like?? If they were advancing technology I'd understand their reasoning but so far there's no implications that they are. So this is a convoluted mess to say that why are the Maesters doing what they're doing??

I see that they’re the sworn sword and mystery knight but for the life of my I can’t find anything other than a knight of the seven kingdoms on audible. Anyone have any help?

Visenya is described as stern but sensual, passionate which are juxtaposing how can someone show little emotion but be passionate? Her description of sensual is always left out so if she is so would she really be ok with Aegon only entering her chambers once every 2 weeks roughly? Moreover she is seen as unforgiving but we have no example of her being so except with dorne which is understandable- all though we know she did not defy Aegons orders and did not dare attack it again once he died. In fact she interceded following the first revolt against Maegor so the first born sons of nobles involved could be spared and took the Vale without bloodshed. The idea that she is someone who is some cutthroat, relentless and emotionally void woman with no compassion seems flawed to me. What do you guys think ? I have always found this description of her so interesting as I don’t think she is so extreme as one may think

Yeah, basically the question

The Characters will be entering your house without any weapon, but they will retain their personality, soo yeah

So I recently came across a hatched Targaryen dragon that I had no previous knowledge on.

Laena was the daughter of Baela Targaryen and Alyn Velaryon (formally Hull). She was presented with a dragon egg upon her birth in 135 AC, but it hatched a blind and wingless wyrm, white as a maggot. After the "monster" tore a bloody chunk from the infant Laena's arm, her father hacked it to pieces.

Baela's dragon Moondance died in 130 AC, around the same time her sister's egg hatched into Morning. She was from one of the three dragon eggs that Rhaena brought with her to the Vale, a clutch produced by Syrax.

Prince Viserys II had an egg placed into his cradle in 122 AC, and it's assumed that his and Aegon III's eggs were laid by Syrax. His egg never hatched and in 135 AC when he was 13 years old his brother sent the egg away to Dragonstone after hearing what had happened to baby Laena.

I think it's safe to assume that Laena's maggot was from one of the eggs Rhanea had with her in the Vale. The other unaccounted for egg could possibly be the one given to Aegon the IV or it could've been the Last Dragon.

Why did Laena's dragon hatch so deformed, Morning was alive and well, Silverwing was alive. Was it due to the dwindling magic? All the other disfigured hatchlings are all described as decrepit poor things that die quickly after birth. Yet this one seemed quite aggressive, could this just something that has happened before? Hatchings attaching the baby Targs, but no one would speak about is because it would weaken the image of the dragonlords?

The classic example for this is Jamie originally being intended to become king through killing everyone In his way. Are there any other main examples of this?

I don’t quite understand the part in the chapter where Tyrion meets Haldon Halfmaester and Rolly Duckfield, and I have a few questions:

• Do they know that it’s actually Tyrion? It seems unlikely, as otherwise the Yollo/Hugo Hill alias would be pointless. Tyrion even thinks he needs to be cautious around Haldon, perhaps because Haldon seems too sharp to be easily deceived. But then, Tyrion’s identity is revealed to everyone shortly afterward by Illyrio’s letter. So was the alias pointless? (We don’t get much description of the reactions to this reveal from those present, which makes the whole chapter feel somewhat strangely written.)
• If they don’t know he’s Tyrion, then who do Haldon and Duck think he is? They must have been told something about him. Both have strong ties to Westeros, so wouldn’t they recognize the famous, ugly, blond dwarf of House Lannister? Why would they think Illyrio sent him along if they didn't know he was significant? They must have been given some reason or clue that "Hugo Hill" is someone of importance.
• Also, why does Haldon challenge Tyrion with questions on Westerosi history and lore? What does this test prove? Yes, it might indicate that Tyrion is from Westeros, but that doesn't confirm his identity. Plus, Haldon’s questions are oddly specific, and Tyrion's detailed answers make it harder to believe he's just some random bastard.
• Then there’s the moment when Tyrion makes a joke about Cersei, to which Haldon responds, “You are a little fellow, Yollo.” Is Tyrion being careless here, or does he already suspect they know who he is? If so, why was he so cautious just a few moments earlier?
• Or could Haldon’s questions be intended not to test Tyrion’s knowledge of Westeros, but his knowledge of dragons? As the chapter implies toward the end, Tyrion’s potential value to Daenerys lies in his knowledge of dragons. Could Illyrio have told Haldon and Duck that this “dwarf has valuable information about dragons"? If that’s the case, Martin’s storytelling is a bit unclear. And even if Tyrion’s cover story was needed initially, it still seems strange to bother with it if his true identity is going to be revealed so soon afterward.

How tall do you guys think he is? I know he’s described as tall and powerful but I always imagined that he’d be around the same size as Jaime. Like 6’2-6’3ish, somewhere in that realm.

Then I came across this piece of art on him, posted by GRRM himself on twitter and he looks closer to 7ft than 6’3 lol. So do you guys think he’s Jaime tall or The Hound/Robert tall

Notes:

Any and all outside control on Skagos is nominal at best.

In ADWD, Jon allows Stannis to settle free folk on the Gift, so it can be thought of as a condominium between the Watch and Stannis.

Here's a list of all the houses House Targaryen have married into.

Hightower - 3

Costayne - 1

Harroway - 1

Westerling - 1

Velaryon - 7

Farman - 1

Baratheon - 2

Arryn - 3

Royce - 1

Martell - 2

Corbray - 1

Dondarion - 1

Penrose - 2

Dayne - 1

Blackwood - 1 (2 if mistresses are counted)

Stokeworth - 1 (Mistresses)

Bracken - 2 (Mistresses)

Mudd - 1

Targaryen - 15

It's no surprise that the most marriages were with the Velaryons as they were close in kin and power, but it's interesting to see no Northern Houses (I don't know if I can count the Blackwoods). I'm curious to know what made Maekar marry Dyanna Dayne though, what did that alliance help with. Are there any houses you expected to see more of?

Edit: Changed 3 Penrose's to 2

Is that possible that the one to cast down Cersei is Taena. I was reading AFFC for the first time and in one of the chapters of Cersei, She thinks Taena looks younger. We know that Taena is attractive, even to Cersei. Also, Cersei trusts her and share with her. I don't know what happened to her in the last book since it's my first time read. I didn't see anyone come up with this theory. Do you think it's silly?

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