/r/XSomalian

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Ku soo dhawaada xerada bilaa diinta, Soomaaliyey!

This is a community for irreligious Somalis. Whether atheist, agnostic, deist or another place on the spectrum.

Muslims are also welcome to pose questions relevant to our Ex-Muslim experience. Do not post da'wah content here. Take those conversations to r/DebateReligion.

For all those Somalis who no longer believe in Islam, a non-judgmental place for us to meet and discuss things we aren't able to openly talk about.

Ku soo dhawaada xerada bilaa diinta, Soomaaliyey!

This is a community for irreligious Somalis. Whether atheist, agnostic, deist or another place on the spectrum.

Muslims are also welcome to pose questions relevant to our Ex-Muslim experience. Do not post da'wah content here. Take those conversations to r/DebateReligion.

For all those Somalis who no longer believe in Islam, a non-judgmental place for us to meet and discuss things we aren't able to openly talk about.

/r/XSomalian

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Looking for friends with the same interests

I like nice people, music, hiking, poetry, pan-africanists, going to raves, skating, Basketball, reading, science and socialism/ Communism.

I would like to get some new Soomaali non- muslim friends:) I’m 24, I live in Switzerland (Basel), studying Biotech. If you’re in Europe and have some of the same interests (especially if you’re a socialist 😘) , please DM me. We might become friends. hope you’re all doing good mentally and physically.

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2024/05/05
06:50 UTC

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First Time Drinking!

Very first time at a bar drinking. Didn’t really like the taste of beer, I gotta explore more flavors. Any recommendations? 🍻

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2024/05/05
00:57 UTC

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Somali alternatives

Are any of you into the alt scene ? Rock music , goth, emo that kind of shit . If so, how do you get perceived in the community ? I just recently got into the music , my style isn’t very alt in my opinion but just wondering .

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2024/05/03
22:14 UTC

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I lost my virginity and I’m losing my mind

Hi lol this is so fucking emberassing but atleast i can vent here anonymously. Okay so i (f17) lost my virginity a week ago. Its so crazy saying this omg.

Like a month ago i met this older guy at the store, he was looking for cinnamon spice or wtv its called in English. He asked me because i was right next to him and i helped him, he then told me i was pretty and i thanked him. He continued the conversation and I went along. Honestly just to let you all know I’m conventionally unattractive, so one of the reasons why I stayed to actual talk was because i get literally no male interaction so this kinda made me feel special or something. He then asked for my snapchat and i gave it to him. We talked for like couple days, he asked my age and i lied abd told him im 19 he told me he was 25 but he looked older. He then asked to meet me again. I met him and we talked a lot honestly i liked the attention he was giving me plus his face was really nice. He started getting touchy and I went along with it. We started talking sexually over messages and he asked me if i wanted to have sex with him. Which honestly caught me off guard abd was freaking me out but i said yes so he scheduled a date for us to have sex….

The day came(last Thursday night) he picked me up from work and we went to his house and he ordered food and after we watched a movie he asked if it was okay to start touching me. And i sqid yes fucking shaking. It wasn’t the first time he was touching me but this time it was so nerve racking and im not gonna get into details but we did it. And it fucking hurt, it didn’t feel good AT ALL, i bled alot and he finished inside and it felt so disgusting. Being shit ass first time wasn’t even the worst part of it, but he fucking smellled like dog shit it was nasty. His private part looked so disgusting and it was so hairy.

im so disgusted by myself. I honestly don’t know what to do. I started having weird dreams like being on fire and people finding out what i did. I blocked the guy because i just couldn’t bear the thought of what i did. I used to be super religious and I’ve always been told that zina is the worst sin a person could commit. Im not religious anymore but im so ashamed of myself and just so so disappointed in myself. I honestly cannot look at my body without being disgusted.

40 Comments
2024/05/03
19:35 UTC

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What are y’all looking forward to in your lives?

For me it’s moving cities and finding my tribe.

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2024/05/03
17:53 UTC

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How do yall feel about the campus protests and the Anti-Semitic bill

I feel like we're in some collective psychosis. Humanity is lost.
and What is the future of Somalia if our people are strangled by Mo's Fables , our women are treated like it's the 6th century? We can't possibly fight back against a foreign power. Somalia I would say is located geocentrically in a sweet spot.
and Although I've never been to Somalia
my mind is incapable of self-orientalising in hopes that I'll belong,
so I can't help but ponder it sometimes.

13 Comments
2024/05/02
22:21 UTC

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Freaking out

i basically live a double life (17F) and today was no different i changed before i went to skl,( i wore jeans and a tank top) but my last class of the day was cancelled so i decided to just stroll and wareeq to kill time before coming back home ( in hindsight ik it was a rookie mistake), since the area i live in is very populated with somalis, my uncle and cousins happened to see me (i also live with them) so right now, i dont know when theyre going to address it but im freaking out really bad, my aunt and uncle can be pretty abusive and neglectful. They wont let me move out in the future( my birthday is 2 weeks away), theyre not even "good muslims" themselves but theyre so controlling. Sorry for the long vent, i just dont know what to do.

11 Comments
2024/05/02
19:18 UTC

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Does our atheism mean caasinimo?

I have noticed a bunch of us especially girls on this sub complaining about their parents as if they're buddies or something. Our parents have sacrificed and gone through alot for us particularly those in the west. Completely forgetting that and making a farce about the money we give them is really beneath us.

La xisaabtanka waaridka ha iska deyno walalayal!!

18 Comments
2024/05/02
11:02 UTC

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How do I explain to my mom that her kids aren’t mine?

So basically as most somali oldest daughters know, I am seen as my siblings second mom essentially and there are eight of them. My mom is currently in Africa but she says that when she comes back I will live with her and I will take care of everything. Keep in mind that I am a college student in my third year that also plans to go to grad school. I do not plan on living with my mom ever again and it will be a rude awakening for her. The only reason I have not told her all this is because she is using my siblings as leverage. I really want them back as I miss them and I’m afraid they are falling behind education wise. So whenever I do something slightly bad she says that she will stay there for another 6 years (been there 4 years so far) for a total of 10 years.

I just cannot wait to see her reaction when I tell her that they are not my kids and therefore I am not their mother. It is not my responsibility to raise them. I guess I just would not know how to explain this to her, especially in somali.

12 Comments
2024/05/01
03:48 UTC

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Hypocrisy of Exmuslim sub aka polytheist Brown/'White' supremacist sub.

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2024/04/30
08:32 UTC

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Hellfire

Telling CHILDREN (from a really small age) that if they don't follow this religion and its rules they're going to burn in hell forever is so fucked up. Beyond fucked up.

6 Comments
2024/04/30
12:15 UTC

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Can we talk about the ex Muslim sub?

I thought that was a place for ex Muslims but it turns out it’s not it’s just a place for butt hurt ppl ( and I say that as a person who’s always fighting anti ex Muslim rhetorics) like my brain hurts from the misinformation.. ( they lost me with the israel buttkissing) but honestly not surprised you live and you learn. 🤮

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2024/04/30
08:59 UTC

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Does anyone else find it dumb when someone says you’re not Somali if you’re not Muslim?

Do they not know our ancestors practiced and entirely different religion before Islam?

Are those ancestors suddenly not Somali anymore? lol

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2024/04/30
07:02 UTC

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Does anyone else see no hope for a future for themselves?

It’s been eating me up since i realized i’m not religious at all, never have been and i’ve just been trying to fit in with everyone else (and also not get killed).

i’m Atheist, I’m gay, mentally ill, and i genuinely can’t see myself going building any type of relationship with my parents or other family. Tribal conflict between them is bad and my father is constantly berading my mother in front of me and my siblings. He’s also physically abusive aside from verbally but for some reason it only seems to be aimed at me.

Anytime i’ve shown literal symptoms of mental illness their first thought is always the Quran and Allah. Like a book is going to fucking change anything overnight. They’ve also done numerous exorcisms on me and it just made me feel so invalidated and unheard that i actually thought i was crazy and only Allah can save me.

It makes me even more frustrated because with the way things are looking right now, i don’t know if i can live life the same after moving away and living for myself, there’s also the fact that they’re getting older and even though i have so much resentment and anger towards them the little kid in me knows it’s going to be up to me to take care of them.

And also, maybe that’s when i can live freely? Maybe if they die and i wait a little more i’ll feel less guilty for being myself because i know if my father found out he’ll immediately blame my mother, as if he isn’t one of the main causes of all my suffering.

There’s also the fact that i feel i need to give up my identity as a somali. Islam is so embedded into our country and people i do not think they can be saved with the current mob mentality they have. I have to give up who i am, where i came from, everything just because i want to live a religious-free life. It feels so isolating and anytime family is over, and i go to somali-populated areas it makes my heart hurt knowing i’m never going to do any of these things again.

I just don’t know what to feel tbh. If anyone has moved away from home whats it like? Are you safe? Are you hiding the fact that you’re somali? Is there hope for others like us at all?

13 Comments
2024/04/29
01:55 UTC

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imagine

What if you knew the exact date of your death? For instance, suppose an organization planned to end your life, leaving you with no chance of escape. Against all odds, how would you comfort yourself and make peace with the inevitable? What words would you say to yourself knowing that you will soon leave behind this beautiful thing called life in terror way ?

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2024/04/28
23:48 UTC

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Dating as an ex Muslim

The dating scene is kind of interesting because apart from the religion itself I’m pretty ingrained in the Somali culture in terms of the language, traditional food etc and it’s something I don’t want to let go of

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2024/04/28
21:55 UTC

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Giving on Somalis

Maybe they will be normal in a century from now but as of right now, I have no hope for them.

18 Comments
2024/04/28
18:18 UTC

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Finally someone has spoken for us

I just came across this video on TikTok and I wanted to share it with you guys

10 Comments
2024/04/28
15:08 UTC

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It's (usually) okay to be "Westernized".

That's something I've had to slowly accept as an immigrant after years of hearing "Western" as an ideological slur in Muslim communities. The reality is that it's completely natural for folks to engage in cultural exchange including of ideas. When folks live with each other or even see each other's communities and different ways of thinking, it's natural for them to change and rethink and maybe find new words for experiences of their own. When you're not violently controlling folks (and this includes Western colonialism) then it's natural for people to convert back and forth across communities, experiment with their beliefs, and try new things.

So now when I feel guilty that I'm somehow "Westernized" because I'm "culturally Muslim" and fell out with the religion theologically, I remind myself that cultural change is natural. Yes I was challenged by my encounter with the "West", and I rejected some things (deeply colonial and racist ideologies, hyper capitalism) while accepting others (experimenting with queer communities for example). If we're going to reject ideas and social critiques just because they're "Western" then we're just like people who reject Islam because it's "Arab" lmfao.

I think the greater difficulty with the "Westernized" accusation is more human tbh, which is that immigrant families fear loss of shared values with their children and that their kids won't be connected to their LIVING heritage aka communities back home. How to deal with that - a story for another day 😅

3 Comments
2024/04/28
13:23 UTC

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Somali discord servers are so retarded

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2024/04/28
08:21 UTC

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Queer shame at weddings

Hey guys,

I just got back from a wedding and I’m spiralling a little. It’s so hard seeing other Somali girls in my community all get married one by one while I am too scared to start living my life for the risk of shaming my family.

It’s lovely to see the joy and the smiling and the dancing, but a part of me feels so incredibly sad knowing I will never experience it.

I see the bride dancing with her friends, sisters and parents, and can’t help but envy how happy and supportive everyone is ( as they should be) because I know no one will ever support me like that if I marry who I truly want.

Every time I go to a wedding, I convince myself that maybe marrying a man wouldn’t be so miserable, that maybe I can endure and push through the intimate times, if it means I give my mother the wedding and grandchildren she wants.

Does anyone else deal with this? How did you overcome? Did you stop going to weddings? I’ve limited the amount of times I go because I’d be in a funk for a few days following the wedding.

14 Comments
2024/04/28
00:45 UTC

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Question for People in Kenya?

What do you guys do for fun, like clubbing? Do you see other Somalis there, and if so, do you acknowledge each other or just act like they’re not there? Also, which clubs do you guys go to, or are there private parties?

Edit idk why I put a question mark on the title

11 Comments
2024/04/27
16:28 UTC

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someone help me please?!

Im 19 years old living somalia haven't parents and siblings im living my relative i need to learning new skills i need some brothers somali are help me for the fee please i need help !!!🥺🥺 Note my english isn't good sorry for that.

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2024/04/27
08:39 UTC

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The new fees for hajj

I just saw a news about Saudi Arabia allowing hajj for syrians in Syria this year after 12 years and the fees are as high as 13,000 USD, and I am just thinking the average salary in Syria is around 20 USD a month, yet Saudi is willing to charge them as high as there whole life income just to go around a rock! Isn't that crazy? People are literally starving and living in tents many worse off than Gaza, yet Saudi will always try to profit from hajj, now that many countries are moving away from oil and looking for greener energy alternatives, in the future without haj revenue this oil rich country might go back to the stone age with sand covering most of the country as migrant workers go back home due to lack of funds, most Saudis never worked hard in their lives and rely on immigrants but will the immigrants stay now that they increase the fees on them? Only option is to try an get alternative sources of income and that's Haj.

14 Comments
2024/04/27
10:50 UTC

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I returned to Islam and I am so scared

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2024/04/26
20:10 UTC

6 Comments
2024/04/26
00:16 UTC

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Muslims the new scapegoat

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2024/04/25
05:20 UTC

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Xsom Discord server invite!

Hello everyone!

Xsom is a discord server STRICTLY for Exmuslims/Atheist/Agnostic Somalis. It’s a safe space for fellow Somalis who have left Islam and any other organised religions to interact and communicate. For obvious reasons, we require vetting of individuals before joining to prevent trolls and other unwanted guests.

HOW TO JOIN To join, you should Private Message this account/comment on this post with “I want to join” and a Moderator from the server will reply to you. [ 1 - 4 days reply time ] NOTE :

  • Make sure your DMs are open. Please check your settings:

User settings > Chat & Messaging > Who can send you chat requests > (click on Everyone)

  • Reminder, this is the only account you can contact regarding joining the server.
  • Joining Xsom requires you to make an account on discord (https://discord.com/), if you haven't already got one and be available for voice vetting.

Any questions about the server or the process, please DM this account. Welcome!

3 Comments
2024/04/24
14:13 UTC

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Tips to increase your emotional intelligence.

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2024/04/24
06:18 UTC

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Somali parents

So I have a uncle who has three daughters and two sons. He has been married for 30 years why all of a sudden this man decided to go back to Kenya and marry a 23 year old. The same age his kids, and guess what he wants his sons to fund his marriage and life back home, also the mother took her daughters Fafsa money to buy gold wallahi some Somali parents see you as an ATM, and think you owe them for having you.

28 Comments
2024/04/24
02:38 UTC

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