I have a weird intuitive feeling that this episode in particular is about to be crazy?? Don’t actually tell me but why are my little gut feelings going 🚨🚨🚨 right now lol

So it seems literally no one liked my last post so I don’t think I’ll be doing that anymore, I’ll just keep on going with my original style of posting here😁

I’m so excited for season 2! There seems to be 2 different opinions: opinion A is that Westworld completely falls apart after season 1 and the rest is terrible. Opinion B is that seasons 1 and 2 are fantastic, but 3 and 4 are bad.

Am I going to be prepared for the twists to come or am I going to be screaming and crying in all caps while my cat watches me with genuine concern in his little green eyes? Stay tuned!

First time viewer here. Watched S1 about 2 years ago, which I enjoyed. Lost interest during S2.

Now on rewatch (S4E4). Went beyond S2 and I must say, S3 and 4 are finally what I was waiting for!

I think the reason why so many people lost interest in Westworld is because they were confused about the genre-switch. But if you watched S1+2 with half a brain, you'd have to understand that Westworld has never been a cobwoy-show. It was always clear that there was a cyberpunk-dystopian frame around the wild west stuff.

S3 and 4 fulfill this promise. Too bad there's no S5, for it is clear that Nolan and Joy have been working with a 5-act structure. (Have to add, the complexity of these last 2 season's is certainly not everyone's cup of tea, which makes it further difficult to make the show appealing to the masses.)

that Ford was written into a video game

by Arnold as a dream of himself

in a dream of Ford

Written by Dolores

as dolores wrote

in their dreams and digs of coal

figments, bones and wholes

in dreams of Ford and those of Rome

in morbid realms of yore

Question i had is _what_ is will

and what am i

and what i will i am then?

pardon me
i am words come wrote to life

Completely aside from viewership, the quality of writing had completely deteriorated.

I just finished a re-watch up through S3, hoping to see some cohesive throughline I missed the first time, but I can't bring myself to even bother with S4.

S1: Perfect marriage of dramatic storytelling and engaging narrative structure. Every scene was meaningful to the whole. Everything was meticulously planned to fit well together. Extremely rewarding to rewatch. Everyone's motivations made sense and characters grew while staying consistent to themselves.

S2: The dramatic storytelling was there, and the interesting narrative structure (viewing the events out of order through Bernard's de-addressed memories) was there, but I wouldn't call it a perfect marriage. It's almost like Bernard's arc existed FOR the mental exercise, while everyone else's arc was there for the drama. Maeve's capabilities grew, but her arc was weak imo, and it got FAR worse after this season. Dolores' transformation from S1 to S2 was my favorite, showing not only what she had to become to survive, but demonstrating that she COULD shape herself into what was needed. The high moments were still high, like Riddle of the Sphinx and Kiksuya episodes, but the lows got lower.

S3: The IDEAS were still there, but it wasn't enough to save this season. It was an inversion of S1-- most of the humans are demonstrated to be on loops, and Dolores sacrificing her life to cut the puppeteer's strings and "give humanity a chance" was certainly poetic, but I didn't find it to be satisfying. Previously established rules became mere guidelines, previous character growth was cast aside, the philosophy that made the first two seasons great became an inconsistent afterthough. My boy Bernard was done dirty. Honestly, the most compelling version of Bernard was S1 pre-revelation, when he acted with confidence and conviction. He spent practically all of S2 and S3 questioning his own mind rather than acting with any kind of agency. Maeve's motivations were... forgiveable, I guess, but became SOOOO hammy in execution.

S4: S3 wasn't great, but they could have at least honored the plot a little more. S3 ended in a grand sacrifice by Dolores to give humanity a chance, S4 jumps right into "Nah, none of that mattered. Humanity is enslaved and Dolores is back as Christina." I understand she's a different Dolores logically, but emotionally it retroactively ruins her entire arc from the previous season.

Overall, I feel like they should have ended S2 with Dolores escaping the island with some hope in her heart and just called it finished there.

This show is the most amazing masterpiece to ever be put on TV. The reveal that was just revealithed has shooketh me to my CORE.

I feel like I have so many words to say about the man in black turning out to be William but my mind is blanking, it’s like I’m a host and my improvisation is making no sense rn💀

rolls out Royal scroll by Royal decree I shall now rewatch this show over and over again for the rest of my life and continually obsess over it and be mad at it at the same time

Just watched Bernard/fucking ARNOLD shoot himself, so I’m just crying and now I’m watching the season finale. Should I be scared yall😭😭

Also I’m so glad to see I was right about Arnold, I didn’t know he was Bernard, but I 100 percent knew he was someone we’ve already seen. At least I have my ego being stroked as a comfort💀

RIP Bernard/fucking Arnold I guess fly high bro-

OH NOW IM BEING SHOWN DELORES IN HER BUILDING STAGE THATS OKAY I DONT LIKE THAT- OH NO SHES MOVING WITH HER PARTS EXPOSED THIS IS SCANDALOUS MY EYES

1. If the satellite fails, the internet, electricity gets shut off - will the sublime and the hosts in it cease to exist? (unless if Christina reimagines them... I guess)
2. Christina says that she will reimagine everyone, would this be in a simulation or will she be making bodies for everyone she reimagines in the real world on earth?
3. Are Christina and Dolores now one? With all of their thoughts, personalities, experiences?
4. Christina - Dolores said that there would be one last loop around the bend, does that mean that if it fails, she would try again or just concede?

Massive spoilers ahead for Season 1 and 2

!What happened to Dr. Ford at the end?!<

!As a human, biological thing, he is killed, but what happened to his identity?!<

!Is it really destroyed both in the guest vault and when Bernard deleted it? Did Ford cut and pasted himself to Bernard, or that was more like copy paste? What about Maeve, when she was on the table?!<

!Is there really not a single copy left?!<

!Maybe I'm missing something, but if you consider Robert dead in all instances, the ending of season 2 becomes very sad -- too much like the feeling of remembering your passed away loved ones, and the old days that are slowly fading into the past -- not in that Universe to ever meet them again.!<

I hadn’t heard of Westworld before I started watching the show a few days ago and I’m currently at this scene where we figure out Bernard is a host, or at least I’m 99 percent sure that’s what’s happening, and my heart went WHOOM, straight down. I can’t even believe this I can’t process this lol, OMG WAS HIS BACKSTORY HAVING A SON WITH CANCER?!😭😭

I just finished watching season 1 and was starting season 2. At the beginning of the very first episode, when Bernard is on the beach, I was already questioning what was really happening - considering everything that had been revealed through season 1 and all of the confusion.

I found myself thinking, ‘you cant trust anything you see in this show’.

And at that exact point I realized that the writers had done with my experience of the show, precisely what they had put the characters through. I don’t know what’s real and what’s not, or what’s a part of a time loop, part of a narrative or if someone is in control. Pretty much exactly what the characters were going through during season 1. This added a whole new dimension to the viewing experience for me, where I have to question the reality presented - making the focus on the perception of reality during the show all the more relevant.

They sneakily referred to this idea by having Charlotte Hale say to Lee Sizemore (as far as I remember), ‘show - don’t tell’.

This might have been spoken about before but I’m too nervous about S2 spoilers to investigate! Any similar insights?

Took me way too long lol. The hosts were all on loops, but Dolores (and a few others) was the one who repeatedly strays from her loop.

The humans are also on loops, but Caleb (and the other outliers) was flagged by Rehoboam because he repeatedly strayed from his loop.

Hi, I first watched the show when it came out but only watched the first 2 or 3 episodes. Then in the last two weeks or so I began watching the show again from the start. I am now at season 2 episode 7.

I have browsed this subreddit and found some info on the later seasons I find frustrating. Are the entire events of the show just a simulation and nothing is real? What happened in the real world? So the board meeting massacre in season 1 was not real? I am so confused. Please help.

If it turns out to be all "just a dream" it will be frustrating for me, but I guess it is the case and I should learn not to care about anything at this point.

Also, I am watching this show with my brothers and so far we are liking it and are rooting for Bernard, Elsie and William to make it. I tried to not be invested in any characters this time around but it seems that I can't. I fear the dissapointment of the later seasons will sting even more because of this.

Can someone please explain what is going on in the real tangible world in the show?

Halores says it is the end of sentient life on Earth, but what about the rebels? Frankie escaped... I don't get it.

Has anyone watched the series in reverse?

As I understand Rehoboam was feed data from the park. What I wonder is was there another AI within the park. Dr. Ford and Bernard created the park but only the hosts were "AI" possible. Was there another AI entity that was the "Master"?

https://preview.redd.it/m52cxr1wj7zd1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=1af0277e609c8293fb1045676e6c1979ca69d3cb

Source: Gage Skidmore, Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported, Wikimedia Commons

Something about the intro music always sounded familiar to me and today I finally caught it! If you’re familiar with UK garage music, Artful Dodger have a song ft Lifford called ‘Please don’t turn me on’ that literally has the exact reference section 😃

To catch it you have to listen to the original, the remixes don’t have it included.

Is there a FAQ for this group?

Just watched the scene after the first saloon heist, when Elsie walks over to Dolores, who is hysterical because Teddy was shot during the heist. Before she shuts Dolores down, Elsie says "Soon this will all feel like a distant dream.." but Elsie knows better than anyone that the hosts get their memories wiped at the end of the day.. so she knows that wouldn't be the case. Dolores wouldn't remember any of it. Was this foreshadowing of her freedom?

Just a head up for my fellow fans, tubi is playing all episodes of westworld on their 'watchlist' channel. It's not available on demand, so the episodes are scheduled, like cable.. but if your like me and had to resort to watching YouTube clips ever since they took Westworld off Max, this is awesome.

Who is the actress? I'm not good with remembering names

https://preview.redd.it/nf9y6iv6kvyd1.jpg?width=783&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f80f67cbcdf13dd0ccdf7098314eadb9eab934e9

I know I would have loved it a huge open world and you could do all the adventures they do in the show and maybe more backstory on things..... Would have been fun to fight Maeve, Dolores, or William as the Man In Black. I think that would have been fun.

You could start the game as normal as a park visitor and use the hosts just like people do on the show but after each visit they change till they become hostile, maybe on the 4th or 5th visit as it's a game to give you a time constraint.

Do you think this would have made for a great video game?