I'm very confused about some stuff.

How was Maeve brought back into her original body to meet with Serac? Her head had a chunk missing out of it and her body was decommissioned?

Who tf is in Charlottes body?

Is Caleb a host? I'm confused on how Dolores got access to his memories and history and what exactly he is

Just curious. They had a website they kept up to date, they had massive storylines with a ton of depth, major twists, epic events, constant edge of the seat scenarios, and the entire show feels SOOO cinematic no matter how many times its watched.

I can't think of anything with a scope as big as this but I'd like to..

I thought it was really cool that Hiroyuki Sanada went from Shogun World to Shōgun the series, and then he went on to win two Emmys for it! But then also Frederick E.O. Toye (who directed two of my favorite Westworld episodes—The Adversary and The Passenger) got an Emmy for Shōgun as well. Not that awards are everything, but as someone who has appreciated the quality of work that went into Westworld, it’s nice to see them thrive and be recognized.

On season 2 of a re-watch and I know that nothing I have to say is original but here it is anyway because I'm having fun.

So as has been pointed out William is the epitome of the nerdy Nice Guy who first idolizes Dolores as the answer to all his problems and he swears he wants to rescue her from repeatedly being tortured, raped, killed, and having her memories erased but then when those things happen to her he's immediately like, "wow I can't believe that fake bitch led me on to believe what we had was real!" and just gives up on her immediately.

He has main character syndrome so bad that first he hears, "the maze is not for you" over and over and is still like, "the maze is a super secret narrative for me to unlock".

And then it leads him to shooting his own daughter because he convinced himself, "Emily is clearly a Host that Ford took the time to create because he's so jealous and obsessed with me!!" He WANTED Ford to have designed some big, complex game to mess with him because it made him feel like a special boy with purpose.

He acts like he's the biggest badass in the park with a total "not like other guests" attitude as though he's not another sociopathic wealthy asshole enjoying murdering without consequences. But no he's different because he's all, "Um acshually I WANT what I do in Westworld to have real life consequences!!!".

But like. His poor wife literally killed herself. Because of what he did in Westworld.

And then, again, he shot his daughter. Who hated him. Because of what he did in Westworld! But wait no, not THOSE kinds of consequences!!! Just the kind that'll challenge him and give him an adrenaline rush.

10/10 character of all time.

I'm just curious about the ending of S02e10. We see William with his hand half-blown off going down into the Elevator toward the Forge, but the next time we see him later in the episode he's being rescued by the people. Did he make it to the forge or for some strange reason was that bit left out..?

I'm rewatching the series again and I am still confused about the events in S02e10. We see the MiB with Dolores and Bernard, so presumably this is present, weeks after the awakening. Then, we see Bernard inside of the Forge with Dolores, but then we see Bernard having some vision or memory or something of an event in the forge where he's in cuffs but Dolores is dead? So... is this a future he's seeing, a past, is this a loop or something? What's going on?

I am haunted by Halores' last scene. I think she used her final moments to take in the beauty of the Colorado River. What do you think?

I love Westworld. I've watched it probably 3-4 times now all the way through and only now am I starting to able to understand every bit of it on my own. That said, I can't seem to find interest in watching anything else.. I can't find anything that's similar or that can capture me emotionally like this show has and keep me bingeing it. Is there anything like that?

So, I finally got around to checking out Westworld. I had heard nothing but good things from the people who recommended it was great show (specirically from the Super Best Friends/Castle Super Beast podcast). And after finishing the first season, it's easily one of my favorite sci fi stories ever. However, I heard that Season 2 drops the ball super hard. So, I'm curious, is the rest of the series worth watching or will it be a Game of Thrones S8 situation where it would just piss me off because its so bad? I'm just curious what fans who are caught up have to say on this matter.

What I mean is human hosts were shown to be unstable, Delos' problems the defined his life were all centered around the tragedy of his son.

The hosts were told they had to suffer and suffer until they woke up.

Is the series meant to be saying to the viewer that our suffering both defines us by trauma, and is the key to our consciousness? That if both humans and hosts never suffered, and lived perfect little lives that were all planned out, we'd find it very natural, but it's due to how the psychology of adapting to trauma rewires our brains to find a secure route? A protective maze, if you will?

This Westworld poster is from SDCC, 2017. Signed by Evan Rachel Wood, Ed Harris, Thandiwe Newton, James Marsden, Angela Sarafyn, Rodrigo Santoro, Ben Barnes, Ingrid Berdal, Simon Quarterman, Jimmi Simpson, Shannon Woodward, Jeffrey Wright, Lisa Joy, and Jonathon Nolan. Includes wristband from the signing event. I didn't see it signed in person, but I vetted it before acquisition and am very happy to say this piece is home for good!

What is a conscious host? I'm lost

1. When Maeve wakes up in the Mesa in episode 2 and sees all the dead hosts, she's shocked yet she's not conscious.

Ditto when she follows his storyline with Hector, she wonders about his condition but yet she's not conscious? What ultimately makes a host conscious?

2. For Akecheta, wasn't the updating of reveries necessary to be conscious in the end?

3. What is the maze? For me, it's an internal test to become conscious, but what does it really mean? But if the maze is an internal test, then why does Lawrence's daughter give William a clue to follow to solve the maze, what's the point of this clue if it's a purely internal test?

I'm lost

I might be late to this.

I am reading Soren Kierkegaard 's The Sickness unto death. It's a tough book, difficult to understand and I am hardly half way through it now. What I observe is Soren discusses despair and man's response to it in detail, thereby making a parallel comparison on development of consciousness in a self. In a particular stage, when a person is not much aware of self, he uses a metaphor of a blind door, and man being unaware of it. In the next stage, as a man becomes conscious of his self, he says there is a real door carefully locked and behind it, sits self and watches itself. I am yet to finish this book and I wonder if he will continue this metaphor.

But this reminded me of Bernard ignoring the door and Theresa leading him to it and Bernard realising that he is a host.

Season 1 is the best thing to have happened on Television history and I am delighted, after these many years, it keeps calling me back to it and teaching philosophy.

Pretty much what the title says.

I love love love Westworld. Love it. But I don't quite get it. Was the whole point of the parks to data mine the visitors for Rehoboam? What WAS the meaning of the maze? Sometimes Bernard was in the "saved world" sometimes he wasn't??? Was Dolores Arnold all along?

Sometimes there was so much going on I just couldn't keep up.

Someone please explain this like I'm five. What the heck was it all about?

Basically,

Eccentric tech entrepreneur becomes lord commander of time by cloning himself digitally as ghosts of his cofounder, those of his son and his own daughter, and then making them regain an alternate sense of what was when.

every mind in a maze of its own making each a version, mutations after mutation of the others

has anyone here tried making some kind of a multi modal model read/watch the show? could the flow of the narrative(s) in all its branching and circularity be represented in some kind of a maze?

wonder if tomorrow's singular beings would ever think of this as a guide to their own minds (or an attempt atleast, much like we do with authoritative/introspective pieces of art, science and religion)

p.s. spending your minute digging through this fever dream of a rant, thanks for that

In S2E2, Charlotte Hale tells Bernard that "they" won't sent rescue planes until they get the data. But given Charlotte is the Exec. Director of the board, William is the majority (?) shareholder, and presumably most of the rest of the board is on the island for Ford's demo, who could possibly be left at Delos that outranks them and refuses to send planes?

They Never Actually Confirmed if Emily Grace was a Host or Human. The show had a lot of opportunities to confirm things one way or the other but every factor of her character was not a confirmation if she was a host or human. From her not getting shot with the guns that don’t hurt humans, to not showing the neck scanner result, to being able to find her father easily, and to having the keycard which could have also come from Ford, and not cutting open her arm. She and Ashley were both kept alive at the ghost nation camp. She survived falling off a cliff and swimming across a body of water. There are so many factors that seem like she is a host and no actual confirmation in the show one way or the other.

So, we all know that Dolores was shown on two timelines in Season 1. Here's the thing: even 30 years ago, she was already getting close to consciousness. She was hearing Arnold's (or her own?) voice, leading William to Escalante, and having flashbacks of the day she killed Arnold.

My question is: what happened to all that progress? How did she go dormant for 30 more years? I know she was reset after her adventures with William but would that have really caused her to forget everything and especially for such a long period of time? I would think in the 30 years, she may would have had more flashbacks or gone off her loop trying to retrace. Maybe we aren’t told.

I seem to get downvoted every time I mention the fact that season 4 was generally very well made and everyone I know loved it.

Did you guys actually hate it? I wonder if I am actually living in a weird Westworld bubble lol.

Season 4 got me so hooked, so freaked out, I couldn't wait for another week to see the next episode. My friends agree with this. Are we the weirdos?

Like roBERT-ARNold ?

I mean in a way it makes sense if you consider who conceived Bernard and based on who ... It could be a clue from the beginning when Ford talked about Arnold to Bernard.

WDYT?

Since Westworld was taken off HBO, there's been a lot of buzz about how incredible the show is. I gave it a shot once before, but honestly, the Western setting threw me off—I’m usually not into period pieces.

But after getting hooked on Fallout, someone convinced me to give it another try, especially since I’m a big fan of dystopian tech shows and movies. So here I am, giving Westworld one last chance lol. Took me a minute because I had to find a site to stream it. Damn you, HBO!

Also, I heard Kid Cudi was great in this show, so I want to work my way up to the season he’s in.

Any recommendations on episodes I should brace myself for? What’s your favorite episode? And which one made you hooked?

Would love to hear your thoughts!

Zahn McClarnon put on a master class in that episode.

At the end of s2 we see Dolores leave the park in the host body of Charlotte. But in S3E01 we see Dolores back in her own body talking to Bernard..so did Charlotte make a Dolores host, transferred herself to that body and then made a copy of herself for the Charlotte body? But when Dolores in her own body leaves, she leaves with Charlotte. And later in the season we see Dolores creating Charlotte.. but this seems to be later in the timeline, not before Dolores spoke to Bernard. Because S3 does seem to be linear unlike S1 and S2.