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"What is this about? This wiki is a catalog of the tricks of the trade for writing fiction.

Tropes are devices and conventions that a writer can reasonably rely on as being present in the audience members' minds and expectations. On the whole, tropes are not clichés. The word clichéd means "stereotyped and trite." In other words, dull and uninteresting. We are not looking for dull and uninteresting entries. We are here to recognize tropes and play with them, not to make fun of them.

The wiki is called "TV Tropes" because TV is where we started. Over the course of a few years, our scope has crept out to include other media. Tropes transcend television. They reflect life. Since a lot of art, especially the popular arts, does its best to reflect life, tropes are likely to show up everywhere."

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Is this a trope?

"Foreign food tastes bad or will give you an upset stomach."

Typically seen when a Western character travels abroad to a foreign country that is either less developed or has differing tastes.

e.g. Midnight Express a character in Istanbul speaks longingly for American food and remarks "you should have seen the toilet!" after eating local food. In Bloodsport, the eel the Americans were served at a restaurant in HK is implied to be so bad even the dog doesn't want it.

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2024/04/17
01:11 UTC

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There's gotta be a name for this trope.

I can name about a dozen shows that do this, but instead I'll just give a made up example.

I need a hat, Robert had a hat but he needs an iguana. Sarah has an iguana but requires 6 roof shingles and a lemon drop to give up said iguana. Then it goes down a rabbit hole or grapevine of favors on top of favors where everyone with something of value or need also requires something or value or need, eventually lead back to the first. Most times not even being needed by the end anyways and the whole thing being moot.

I could just swear there is an actual term for this and when I'm trying to explain to it to people it would be so easy to look it at up and show them, as none of the examples I can think of mention it anywhere online besides the plot points. Tia

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2024/04/17
00:25 UTC

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A "Sugar bowl/Sugar Apocalypse" setting, but with a "Heavy Mithril"-like atmosphere. Could this type of setting exist?

I've personally never seen a piece of work combine these two aspects, think of a fusion of Dragon Force or Iron Maiden x Nintendo's Kirby

Pretty polar opposites, however there is " Crapsacchrine World" which are "crapsack worlds" disguised as "Sugar Bowls"

But in this case, the Universe/setting itself is relatively good, so Its not totally "Crapsacchrine", but the vibe is that its like A colorful "Sugar Bowl" setting, but with a High Fantasy rock-theme aesthetic, if that makes any sense.

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2024/04/16
21:26 UTC

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Is there a reverse of "Evil Detecting Dog/Kid"?

That is, where a seemingly villainous looking being is hinted as being benevolent, due to a kid or animal instinctively trusting that being. Such as the ending of the Disney adaptation of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame.", where a little girl embraces Quasimodo.

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2024/04/16
16:59 UTC

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Is there a tv trope where the story begins with the characters at some random place in the world then where they usually start.

Example: the story starts at the characters home town, but in the next story the story starts with the characters in somewhere else like in Paris, or Italy, or in space or in the middle of the sea.

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2024/04/16
11:29 UTC

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Is there a word for this trope? Someone who is transparently Machiavellian/honest about their dishonesty.

I'm watching Game of Thrones for the first time (no spoilers please im only on episode 3) and one character that has stood out to me is Littlefinger/Lord Baelus. He is what I would call "transparently Machiavellian" in that he uses deceit and deception to get what he wants but he also is pretty upfront with the fact that you shouldn't trust him, he literally says this to Ned Stark.

I've seen other characters like this before but can't think of any other examples but was wondering if there was a name for this kind of trope.

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2024/04/16
06:57 UTC

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"Little guy, coming through!" examples?

I have this trope in my head where a "little guy" character small in stature and with a higher-pitched voice has to make their way through some hustle and bustle of normal sized characters who aren't paying attention to the little guy, and the little guy says something akin to "little guy, coming through!". I can't think of any concrete examples, is this trope familiar to anyone else, and can you think of examples?

I feel like I've seen it in animated movies, and I could picture it in something like Monsters Inc. or Bugs Life, where some littler monster or bug is making their way through a crowd. Would love to find the earliest instance of the line or an equivalent line!

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2024/04/16
03:22 UTC

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Looking for Trope name for adjusting someone's grip (golf club, sword, etc)

Where Person A helps Person B readjust their grip or hand placement - sometimes with sexual tension but not always.

Thanks in advance!

Edit: It's Hands-On Approach, thank you u/dyospyr1us :)

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2024/04/15
21:07 UTC

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Is there a name for this type of trope/scenario? When there is a group of heroes, there is a big fight scene where each hero has a 1-1 fight with someone.

One example is the finale of Yakuza 4: each of the 4 playable characters has a 1-1 fight with a major villain.

Or cases where, when there is a group of heroes, there will be an equivalent group of villains. Each hero will be set on defeating an equivalent villain, their Evil counterpart, if you will.

2 Comments
2024/04/15
13:06 UTC

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Tvtrope where the character is going through a transformation of some kind and has to hide it from others?

I can’t find it even through google. Help?

4 Comments
2024/04/14
16:09 UTC

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What is this character trope (cocky casual world beater) and are there more like these? Suggestions?

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2024/04/13
09:13 UTC

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Doubt about this scene

My question is if this scene counts as camera abuse or as a rupture of reality since when looking at it closely there is a scene in which the broken glass is behind the two spheres, if it were camera abuse they would be in front, in addition to that at no point do the spheres collide with the screen or get close to it, that's why maybe I think it's breaking reality, since as far as I can remember, the scenes that I can remember are one from the movie Dragon Ball vs Broly in the one where the fighters bump fists breaking reality, but I'm not totally sure.

I give you the scenes I am referring to, the one above is the scene from Sousou no Frieren and the one below is from the film that I am giving you as an example.

https://preview.redd.it/r3gl121o54uc1.png?width=1176&format=png&auto=webp&s=ca5336499de2f15decdbb08e9a74790a8bad4b2d

https://preview.redd.it/3jl97z8r54uc1.png?width=1051&format=png&auto=webp&s=0872dddcf325ee511e0698a194ada3a4aacc5249

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2024/04/12
21:07 UTC

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What's the trope of the crazy little sidekick like Niffty from Hazbin Hotel/Gir from Invader Zim?

Title. It's a trope I'm sure I've seen more times than just these two. They're small and physically meek seeming side characters but absolute psycho firecrackers with no fear, and always ready to dive into any violent action no matter how over the top it seems.

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2024/04/11
10:23 UTC

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Does TV Tropes have an ideological bias?

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2024/04/11
02:48 UTC

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Is there a name for this trope? Equally matched fighters are fighting, one disarms the other, and then gets immediately disarmed in return despite now having the massive advantage.

Two swordsmen, probably. They're going at it, it's an even fight. First guy manages to disarm second guy. Now first guy has a sword, second guy does not. This should be a nigh insurmountable advantage. Instead, second guy gets some magical boost that lets them fight barehanded and then disarm first guy, usually very quickly. Then they're back to being equally matched with their bare hands.

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2024/04/10
17:12 UTC

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"I'm coming with you" "no you're not it's too dangerous" "I'm coming anyway" "sigh ok fine"

Is there a name for the trope of a character going "I'm coming with you" and then the other person says "it's dangerous you can't come" and then gets convinced in like four seconds to let them come anyway with no further resistance? Is swear this happens all the time

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2024/04/10
16:24 UTC

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What's the trope where a character doesn't know what a simple word means

Like when someone is super greedy and they're told they should try sharing and they go "what's sha... ring?"

Or a love deprived character doesn't know the word "love"

Or so on I can't think of any good examples but I know this is a thing

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2024/04/10
14:19 UTC

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Lurker - How's it goin

I've been lurking here for years, honestly didn't know this was connected to the website, thought it was just another place to discuss tropes. I've seen a lot of seriously intelligent and committed users to this subreddit and TVTropes. Almost every regular is willing to discuss these things with so much intention and depth. Genuinely fascinating how meticulous and categorized all of this is man.

Heard the site was maybe going to shit a few times. Forgot where or how but I think there was a YouTube video essay on it? Have seen a few posts on here too. What's the dealio ??? This is the laziest post I have ever made in my entire life and I will delete it at the slightest indication of annoyance

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2024/04/09
23:16 UTC

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TVTropes is now an example of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" taken to a logical extreme

This is a rant on my part because I'm fed up with the BS and need to get it out of my system, but I wouldn't put it past the mods on the main site to boot me for it if I said it there.

I'm a long running (circa 2008) user, and in the past year and change, there have been so many unnecessary changes that it's both nigh impossible to keep up with it and impossible to avoid getting yelled at for using a now-disambiguated/renamed trope. (I'm not gonna even get into the folks that hover over pages and remove completely valid tropes that they themselves didn't add, rather than doing something productive.)

They did something to the search function so that it's barely helpful, if at all. There's now chatter that they want to do something with spoilers (not quite sure about the specifics there) so that it's much harder to stamp them out without a good rationale, because (paraphrasing) nobody should expect to avoid spoilers. That's completely antithetical to what TV Tropes was designed for: examining common tropes in media - which would include things that surround spoilers. It's already pretty dumb that you now can't spoiler stamp tropes themselves, but there can at least be a case made for it for the sake of organization.

Not even talking about the admin drama, although that probably factors into my gripes because the moderation team and decision making apparatus is like a chicken with its head cut off. Letting Fighteer back and then letting him continue without punishment for that hideous comment a while back is pretty indicative of the leadership on the site.

I remember back in the days of FastEddie when the site was fun. It was conversational and informal. Troper Tales was a nice way to get to know other users. Now it's an unpaid, corporate bureaucracy where busybodies hover and try to nitpick any little thing. I'm pretty tired of it - I deal with enough middle managers at work.

I know this won't force any sort of changes but I needed to get the rant out before I lose my marbles.

16 Comments
2024/04/09
21:38 UTC

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What's wrong with the Search function?

Sometimes I'll search the title of a show, movie, or trope and get a bunch of useless and irrelevant results. I'll turn off the "New Search" feature.

But other times I search for something and get a bunch of useless results so I have to turn on the "New Search" feature.

4 Comments
2024/04/09
15:52 UTC

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Looking for Trope Examples: Child Boss

Hello.

I'm doing a term paper on a specific media trope, and I would love some help finding more examples. The basic outline of the trope is that of a child who takes over a business (often a family business) while thinking that the previous boss or family member had been unfair. In doing so, these children learn the hardships of running a business, whereas the previous boss learns that they were too mean before.

Here are some modern-day examples of this trope:

Gravity Falls S1 E13 "Boss Mabel"

Amphibia S1-E11 "Sprig vs. Hop Pop"

DuckTales (2017) S2 E23 "The Richest Duck in the World!"

I'm looking for kids media in particular with this trope, and I'm looking for about 9 more examples. I assumed that this trope was common given that these episodes have such similar plots, but I'm having a hard time actually searching for examples.

Thanks!

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2024/04/09
15:21 UTC

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What’s this trope called?

So say two people are planning something, and they don’t want others involved but people start to weasel their way in. I can remember someone saying “I want in”. What’s that trope called?

Thank you!

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2024/04/09
12:39 UTC

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Thomas Midgley: a prime example of scientist Condemned by History

As this awesome Veritasium youtube video shows, Thomas Midgley was a chemist working for Dupont and General Motors living in the first half of the 1900s. Two were his inventions: Tetraethyl Lead and Chlorofluorocarbon Freon.

For his discoveries, he won honors such as Nichols Medal, Perkins Medal, Priestley Medal and Gibbs Medal, and two honoris causa degrees. In 1944, just before his death, he was nominated president at the American Chemical Society.

While he was alive, Tetraethyl Lead was cleverly marketed hiding any reference to lead poisoning and took off in popularity, being almost everywhere by the late 1920s. Freon also became ubiquitous in fridges and propellents, replacing flammable compounds that were used before.

Midgley had contracted saturnism from the lead compound he added to gasoline to prevent spontaneous ignition, and hid it, often not appearing at talks, and at a factory of tetraethyl lead there had been eight deaths, but General Motors and Dupont cleverly hid all of that for years and still used his lead compound in gasoline.

Many years after Midgley's death, however, Clair Patterson measured Earth's age and found out that lead in the atmosphere had had a steep rise corresponding to when Midgley's leaded gasoline started being used. This had utterly destroyed any good memories of Midgley that people might have had... And in the late 70s it was found out that his CFC Freon also caused the reduction of the Ozone Layer, further compounding Midgley's damnatio memoriae.

Midgley is nowadays known only as "having had the largest impact on the planet out of every living being".

Hence, he should be in the Condemned by History trope.

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2024/04/08
18:24 UTC

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Trope Screen Shake

I need help to understand this trope, because I'm thinking right now, I know that this trope is related to everything that has to do with shaking, but I see that in the camera abuse trope there are things that relate to that trope. trope, like for example one of the Incredibles movie in which the girl is crashing the plane with turbulence, a normal thing in real life that everything shakes, the same thing happens, with a series of Kiddy GiRL-AND, in which the sight of The camera is on the ground and when the girls step on the ground everything shakes, something normal, if when you step hard you create vibrations in the ground, I don't know if these cases are errors, but it is not assumed that it is only the camera that abuses the person or object. Do they collide or touch the camera? or is Sreen Shake Camera Abuse?

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2024/04/08
16:03 UTC

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Can a woman count as "Mama Bear" simply for having maternal energy and affection for a child character and being vigilantly protective?

Because I noticed that, there are several cases of a female character fitting that description: She has maternal affection for a child character (such as hugging them, saying encouraging or sweet words, caring about well being), and also using any and all combat abilities, that are often enhanced or driven by genuine care for her charge.

Is simply having those two characteristics consistently, enough to qualify for that trope? Even if said character hasn't had that trope added yet?

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2024/04/08
15:09 UTC

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Request to edit a page: VideoGames/AerithAndBob (an unreleased game has now been released)

From the page VideoGames/AerithAndBob:

"Four party members have been revealed for the yet-unreleased sixth Star Ocean RPG: Raymond, Elena, Laeticia and Albaird. Laeticia is pronounced like Leticia (which is a real name, though rare amongst English-speaking people), and then there's Albaird. Albaird's Japanese name could be romanized as Abelardo, which is an obscure Italian name that is now no longer in use."

This game, Star Ocean the Divine Force, has been released in October 2022 and on the page there's still "unreleased"

3 Comments
2024/04/08
00:36 UTC

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Nobody believes the main character over new character

Please help me with what this trope is called because it’s been bugging me forever.

There will be a character (let’s call them A) who has lived in the town forever. They will have grown up there, everyone knows them and their parents etc. A new person (we’ll call them B) will come into the town and falsely accuse A of bullying or something. Everyone will automatically believe B, despite only knowing them for a day, over A who they’ve known their whole lives. Everyone will shun A and nobody, except maybe one close friend who realises (eventually) what B is.

2 Comments
2024/04/07
09:00 UTC

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What is the trope in which a film is a remake that pretends to be a sequel?

Like: The Force Awakens or Jurassic World.

2 Comments
2024/04/06
19:53 UTC

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So this broken base entry is telling us that people like this episode the same reason that people dislike it when it says while others still consider it funny in its own right?

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2024/04/04
17:23 UTC

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Lady falls into a vat of acid and goes insane trope?

Hey just noticed a couple pieces of media riffing on this idea as like a trope, such as in Cats and Dogs 2: Revenge of Kitty Galore, and MLP:FIM S4 Ep 6 - Power Ponies.

Is this a weird coincidence or is it a trope? And where did it originate? Google is only giving me the generalised “vat of acid trope”. It just seems weird to see two parody villains with the exact same backstory in such separated pieces of media.

10 Comments
2024/04/02
15:10 UTC

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