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Done just tried and I succeeded on reaching the target city I think but I had no clue how to go about finding the depot gave up and looked at the map
Hey guys, as the title suggest, I made a delivery to Walbert and the green icon was there and everything, only I couldn't make the delivery. This is the second time this has happened and I've just had to abandon the run and start another one. I tried quitting and reloading, closing the game, none of that worked. I park over the green icon in several different ways but don't get the prompt to press "enter" and then go drop the trailer. Am I Doing something wrong? there's nothing I can do about it now.....but for future reference would be nice.
I searched around and couldn't find one that outlined or solved my specific issue and the ones I DID find were from like 5 yrs ago. Thanks in advance
Did scs just chuck down a highway without worrying if it were accurate? That doesn't seem like them.
I recently got into ATS and am playing on a keyboard and was wondering if I should upgrade to a wheel. If so what wheel? I live in Australia and my budget is around AUD$500 to AUD$1000. And i've been looking at the Moza R5 Trucking bundle.
That way you really get tired of a new area very quickly. At least I do.
Hello everyone Im trying to complete an achievement from the West Balkans DLC. I have to do deliveries in a certain order and to complete it I need to ship Camper Vans from a company called Larus.
I‘ve been waiting quite long but I never get this cargo. And what trailer do I need to see camper vans on the freight market?
I wanna buy my dad the Logitech g29 wheel and pedal with the shifter for Christmas because he recently got a gaming pc and loves playing American Truck Simulator. Would this wheel work with ATS? TIA!
whats everybody’s favourite
Hi, I wonder if anyone has a working link to BBC Radio stations, I have been online all day watched a pile of videos and I just can't seem to make the ones I find online work. Any help would be appreciated.
What is your favorite modded paint scheme (and on what truck) in any game, and specify the game please
Every day, we see complaints of scale and missing places in every new DLC. This is because the states grow smaller, and they cannot be equally as depicted as the larger western US if we kept the road density of current DLC status. Now, as a question intriguing me since 2021, I tried to wonder... what was the feasibility of this region? So I decided to delve into a heavy trance of studying and observing dimensions to proceed the final result.
I realized the Northeast literally had no room. Long Island was only a few interchanges thick. I figure this out by using Trucker Mudgeon's game map online and overlaying two images of it without changing the zoom radius. So I make a couple of posts on the forum about it, and yes, the discussions went very heated. Most people were too wishful to understand the complications, and just said, "poof! I hope Allentown makes it!" It is resemblant to every other DLC, "I hope this makes it!" Then later, "aww man it was cut, but that's scale anyway." SCS DLCs are nothing but mere depictions of an area. East Coasters would have the worst of it all.
The next argument people bring up is the Benelux and Rhine-Ruhr density argument. This argument suggests that these regions are just as dense as the Northeast, which is true. However there is an error with judging both Rhine-Ruhr and West Balkans when it comes to logistical structure. It is far different. For example, 100 square km of urban density could mean 10x10, 5x20, 1x100. The most nightmarish would be 1x100.
In this image, the left will be more tough than the right.
Think of it like burger patties in a pizza box. 32 patties distributed evenly is going to fit, more than the impossibility of a 32-patty single burger in a pizza box. The 32-patty burger resembles the I-95 corridor and the surrounding cities. Small state lines also make limited space, and since the states are in 1:20 also, no space can be cheated. You can't make the pizza box larger without a shrink ray, sure. Take a hint of even ProMods Benelux not adding everything; Ghent and Eindhoven are missing, ruling them out.
The issue is not how proximate these cities are, but how large they can get. The user Travismods on the forum said around the time Oklahoma released, "needless to say, the east coast simply can’t be a good representation of IRL due to the limitations of a 1:20 scale. Its simply not possible since it means they will have to either delete whole cities and major highways or represent them with a handful of buildings you can‘t even access. A technique people are already complaining about in reviews."
"West coast worked because IRL there are large spaces of nothing you can truncate down. That won‘t work on the east coast. Elephant in the room. Its too dense. I‘m sincerely worried how ridiculously small and off the east coast will feel at this scale. How is even NY as a metropolis going to fit, next to NJ and Philly with room to spare for highway driving? I don‘t expect reviews to shine as SCS leave out more and more cities either. People are gonna complain as that happens. Remember, the problem with the east coast is not only that its smaller but that its host to most of the big cities, compared to the west coast. How are they going to fit that at 1:20 without cutting out the rest of the cake?"
As the guy mentioned, the only reason why the West Coast worked was because there was large patches of nothing that can be condensed under a 1:20 factor and the player would still get the immersive feel. That will not work in the Northeast, where there is nearly a house every block within the state limits, and truckers heavily depend on backroads as equal as highways. The biggest highlight that also makes Rhine-Ruhr irrelevant are the sizes of the cities featured. Come on. New York? Philly? Washington, DC? These cities are pretty massive compared to the typical German city, much less the Slovenian city.
This takes the other point. The distances on the Northeast will simply feel too short. I'm from Texas, and have driven the Northeast plenty of times. In my area, Dallas, you can drive for 2 hours and still be in the same metropolitan area with the concrete eight-lane highway. This is not the East Coast. There are cities so close, but yet culturally different. Philly is culturally different from DC (100 miles away). Portland, ME is culturally different from Boston (120 miles away). I've driven between these cities, everything is so short but varied. SCS cannot merge all these characteristics into one city; it will not blend well. This is unlike the Rhine-Ruhr, which is five cities in one. There is cool scenery between Newark, DE and Baltimore (two entire different metro regions). And with the current trend of town spacing this approximate distance, Wilmington will be 1 minute away from Baltimore.
The Texas DLC had plenty of criticism with it. This included the lack of character in Dallas and Fort Worth, "and they were two large cities close to each other so SCS just screwed them over." DFW is huge in the real world, but is small in the game. The drive from Dallas to Sherman is 60 miles and Dallas to Denton is 42. Here is that "42 and 60 miles."
SCS hastened the ugly attempt to work with whatever space was available south of the Oklahoma border, which in result is very minimal due to the size of Dallas itself. This is why in game, it takes 1 minute to drive from Dallas to Sherman. For 60 miles? Hell nah. In real life, I live in Plano (non-existent in the game), and it takes at least 45 minutes to get to Sherman.
Look at the Mississippi floodplain in Arkansas. When I first traveled along I-40 there irl, I was stunned at how open it was. This is seemingly, the 120 miles in this scale:
Then you have the all-time complainers on Steam coming back for the Arkansas DLC, "the drives are too short! Lots feel left out." I don't remember Prescott being the only town along I-30? Malvern, Arkadelphia? What happened to the Red River bridge near Fulton? Did it vanish, and isn't it needed to go into Louisiana to serve its tributary for the Mississippi?
This problem will be far ever more prevalent on the East Coast, where the borders are much tighter than anything along an I-35 corridor in Texas or I-5 in Washington. A lot of people agree that nothing can feasibly get denser than anything along the I-35 corridor. This is where the issue comes in. Compared to LA, DFW, OKC, and Phoenix, a drive between cities on the East Coast is like walking to your neighbor's house. 80 miles between Philly and NYC (two entirely different metro regions), similarly with DC to Philly. The other issue are the landmarks.
What did scenic I-35 in Texas offer from Dallas to San Antonio in that 4-hour drive?
A very compressed area of I-35E south of Dallas (40 miles cut to an exit). A Hillsboro gas station exit, West, north Waco, central Waco, New Road, I-14 (half interchange), Parmer Ln, Austin skyline/Cesar Chavez, TX-71/US-290 (full interchange), Canyon Drive (small exit)... you're pretty much into San Antonio by this point. Only one full interchange between Dallas and San Antonio on that corridor, while the rest are mostly small exit ramps over overpasses only.
Now let's do I-95 and what the average player "hopes".
If we start from DC and end at NYC, also 4 hours, we have the Capital Beltway (which could add three more interchanges to access the US-50 and the north end), the DC skyline and Potomac River/Wilson Bridge, I-695 interchange from I-70, the McHenry Tunnel in Baltimore, its toll booth, a rest plaza, the Susquehanna Bridge, the toll booth to the Delaware Turnpike, DE-1 to go to Dover, Wilmington skyline... an exit depot in south and north Philly, I-76 and Philly skyline, I-276, Trenton Bypass, NJ Turnpike through lanes, Newark airport... sigh. The worst is the George Washington Bridge if it was depicted in 1:1 scale.
Above is the perspective based on how small Maryland's game borders are. Let's see some more.
Here is DFW over NJ:
We need an accurate depiction of New York. There is a high possibility that SCS will choose the nasty route and start cutting huge cities from the maps.
Solution?
How to possibly approach the East Coast has become a very controversial and fatiguing topic within the forum and SCS Discord servers. Some people think that a map distortion for these little states would be a terrible idea. This is because in ETS2, places like the Balkans can go unnoticed since there can be land stretched back to normal on both sides. For example, we can cheat Cape Cod to the East, but not to the south due to the barrier of Long Island and length of New Jersey. Massachusetts will look more like a breadstick. If we inflated the New England and Mid-Atlantic regions, it would make other regions either feel too long or too short of a drive. Examples include Ontario and Quebec, western Pennsylvania and New York, and the Carolinas.
Let's look at what the forum user kmarci did (I do not know how to upload widgets to this tool myself despite using it a couple of times). This is if every state was 1:20 including the Northeast. Normal looking map borderlines.
In 1:17, Connecticut and Rhode Island do not look much larger, the knob of Delaware, as well as the distance from Philly to New York City.
Okay, this is a little too much.
In order to add at least 50% more road, the scale would have to be around 1:13.333, which is still too large for a distortion. Even with this, the George Washington Bridge length would still take up 1/3 of the total distance spanning New Jersey from the Delaware River to New York City. This implicates that loading screens, like the 1:15 UK did connecting with the rest of the 1:19 base map would also be a poor choice. However, again a larger scale for a region in general that does touch the rest of the map would look out of proportion, which is why it was dismissed for many.
This is why I simply think it just has an impossible nature. 1:10 would have actually been more feasible if you compare the size of California in that projection, and yet somehow if the game had started from the East, the West would not be such a problem either.
Travismods on the forum, "Not that I think it will happen, but I honestly would suggest they drop the east coast as an ATS project at 1:20, rehaul their engine and tools and start developing a new game starting from the east coast at a grander scale. The only way out in this situation. ATS and ETS2 are incredibly outdated anyway, in terms of technology. They really made life hard for them settling on such a tiny scale for such a huge country."
This guy also has an idea, "for an American Truck Simulator, I don't see the hype for getting all 50 states," as if the game is only renowned for being set in the West, not the East, and that SCS would require to shift their focus to the chassis of American trucks. Other people are pessimistic, and did not want SCS to ruin the map, and just allowed to work with whatever 1:20 space is available. This takes the entire route of deleting cities that are in the way, including state capitals like Annapolis and Trenton. East Pennsylvania would also suffer, with probably Harrisburg, Allentown, and Scranton missing.
So that's why I call this a nuclear meltdown of SCS's mapping.
Full highway closure during special cargo. saving and reloading did nothing and after some time the support vehicle would just crash and soft lock me in the same spot. 15,000$ down the drain
As title says, I am playing on steam deck and use my own settings for key binds on ats. Just bought ets2. Any easy way to transfer controller settings? Thank you.