I've been trying to learn khoomei, but I can't really find a good explanation on it. From what I can hear and tell, it's just straining your voice, "almost as if you were constipated." Am I wrong in this assertion?

Link to the song: https://soundcloud.com/tonedeafaimaestro/khen-ch-oloogy-getel-alga-bolzhee

I wanted to create something similar to The Hu, but this is what Suno generated this time. It has a slow start, but the middle of the song is quite powerful. I don’t speak the language of the song, though.

P.S. I’m not sure if this technically counts as throat singing, but I really liked the middle of the song, as I mentioned above. Hope you enjoy it!

Or a sidebar or something? 80% of posts here are “how can I learn?” Maybe some Magnificent Mod could whip up a post with a collection of links to good tutorials?

Please post LINKS to tutorials below. LINKS please.

I’m a guy and I find it very interesting and I was wondering if anyone had any tips or suggestions on where to look for help I know some of how it works but there’s a big difference between knowledge of something and experience

I can do false cords safely with no pain and with imo rather good sound quality. That being said I cannot for the love of gods figure out kargyrra. Each time I try sth that I'd intuitively think to be it I feel pain and have to stop. Since I do screams I think it safe to say that the problem does not lie in my use of false cords but maybe something to do with projection or use of pressure?

Anyone does both of these things and could explain how you move between them?

Hello to all my anxiety sufferers, I want to say I love you all and you are not alone, keep on fighting warriors.

I will start off this post by saying that I have health anxiety. I have been dealing with throat tightness/shortness of breath for the better part of a year. This all started happening after I bathed my dog I felt like I couldn’t breath good after and started to freak out, I tried to take my inhaler but found it didn’t work and I really felt like I couldn’t breath, it felt like I couldn’t talk at all. It eventually subsided once I calmed down so I don’t know if this was an asthma attack or just a very bad anxiety attack. From the time I wake up to the time I go to sleep it doesn’t go away, it has been so debilitating and one of the worst symptoms I have ever dealt with. Out of all the anxiety symptoms I deal with this has to be the absolute worst, otherwise I have overcome a lot of my anxiety and symptoms.

The reason I am making this post is because I truly am at a wits end and don’t know what else to do anymore. I have seen doctors before who all tell me it’s anxiety, I have been a cardiologist and had a echo done, holter monitor (all normal) I have seen a Pulmonologist who did a PFT on me and that was normal. I am pushing for more tests to see an ENT for something called vocal cord dysfunction because I read a lot about it. I’m convinced I have some underlying respiratory problems, absolutely 100% convinced at this point.

I don’t know how to describe it but it’s like someone is always strangling me, I can’t get enough air in. When I try to take a deep breath I find that my throat gets tighter and then I have a hard time breathing. I find it worse when I’m sitting as well. My new doctor gave me PPI‘s, which haven’t seem to really help. I should also mention that I feel food gets stuck in my chest sometimes when I’m eating, which I’ve also seemed to notice with my anxiety and I have to drink water to push it down, I don’t know if this is all related or what but now it’s made me fearful of swallowing and overly alert, it truly is tormenting. I don’t know what to do anymore. I feel very lost and alone. I really can’t live this way anymore.

I’m sorry for the long post, I’ve never posted on Reddit but if you can relate or have any advice please feel free to reach out to me.

Thank you all 🙏🏻😔

Hey everyone, i'm looking for anyone with throat singing technique to be part of a piece im writing for a performance that's happening at Trinity Laban in Greenwich, London, 25th of October.

Its part of a concert series called Rude Health that's put on by the composition department. It's always a great opportunity to network and talk weird music with likeminded people.

It would be collaborative on your behalf since ive never written for such vocals before. you'd be paid for the rehearsals and the gig.

Its a low key gig, no pressure. The part i'd give you would be basic and semi-improvisational. Whether you read music or not, doesn't matter, we'll work it out.

And if you can do Gyuke Tibetan style, that would be extra great, but wouldn't be necessary.

The instrumentation will be probably 3 electric guitars, amplified cello, percussion + you.

Dm me if you want to talk about it more, I'll then give you my number :)

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I’m looking for an old video, two men throat singing in the ice. one of them is playing a one string guitar type instrument, the other one hits amazing lows with his throat

All in the title.

When I was seven years old I had a tonsil infection. When I woke up from narcosis all the kids were doing better than me and were allowed to go home hours before I did. The nurses were annoyed with me refusing to eat popsicles like the other kids. Eventually the doctor looked in my mouth and quickly turned white. He informed my parents that he cut out my uvula and there was no option to reattach it as it had already been too long (not sure if it works like that but this is what my parents told me). Now I am wondering, will this affect my throat singing, or am I just very bad at it? I can’t seem to find the right vibrations.

Hi all! Love the music of Huun-Huur-Tu. The song Eerbek Aksy always resonated with me, and I thought I had a reasonable translation until I realized today there are three translations online that differ WIDELY. Wanted to see if anyone out there would be willing to give their take on the translation (original and English transliteration below):

Ээрбек-Аксын

Ээрбек-Аксын Сайыр-АксынЭэн куруг кагбаан-на менЭрге кара эжикейдеЭэледип кагган-на мен

Оорарган Сайыр-АксынОңга куруг кагбаан-на менОртун кара кулугурнуОлуртуп-ла кагган-на мен

Ээрбек-Аксын Сайыр-АксынЭэн куруг кагбаан-на менЭрге кара эжикейдеЭэледип кагган-на мен

Оорарган Сайыр-АксынОңга куруг кагбаан-на менОртун кара кулугурнуОлуртуп-ла кагган-на мен

Eerbek-Aksyn

Eerbek-Aksyn Sajyr-Aksyn,Een kurug kagbaan-na men.Erge kara ezhikejde,Eeledip kaggan-na men.

Oorargan Sajyr-Aksyn,Oŋga kurug kagbaan-na men.Ortun kara kulugurnu,Olurtup-la kaggan-na men.

Eerbek-Aksyn Sajyr-Aksyn,Een kurug kagbaan-na men.Erge kara ezhikejde,Eeledip kaggan-na men.

Oorargan Sajyr-Aksyn,Oŋga kurug kagbaan-na men.Ortun kara kulugurnu,Olurtup-la kaggan-na men.

Anyone have lyrics for any of their songs? Other than song The Memory of Nomadism, I can't find any.

So, I've more or less got khoomei down (I think) (like, 95% sure, but I might just be crazy and there is something I'm missing overall instead of just with kargyraa) but kargyraa still eludes me. I think I've gotten close to actually getting it a few times, but I can never really tell if I'm doing it right or even going in the right direction, since all anyone ever says more or less boils down to 'do random shit until you get it, because you'll know when you did it right.'

1: I think I've just kind of known how to do stuff with my false chords, but it's hard to specifically do it in the way most people suggest for kargyraa. I get really sputtery, and I don't know if that means I have to somehow try to relax my actual vocal chords or try to add extra pressure or what.

2: Are you supposed to actually vocalize at all, or just rely on your false chords for some reason? My first assumption is that you're 100% supposed to vocalize because it'd sound weird and dumb otherwise, but every source I've seen talk about it basically just tells you to do a metal growl or clear your throat, then magically does some shit themselves that they don't tell you about to actually make it sound right. Or that's what it seems like because the tutorials never really clarify enough or say enough about what you're actually doing with your throat muscles.

The one that's really burning in my mind right now and I can't figure out is the sputtering thing. Because I feel like that could be one of a few things whether it be mucus or me constricting my vocal chords too much or not or whatever.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm a total fucking newb at this and have been properly practicing for maybe the last hour and a half and have otherwise just been dicking around with it when I get a wild hair up my ass at midnight and decide I want to try it again, so cut me some slack, eh? I legit have no clue what I'm doing.

Hello, I’ve been throat singing for about 7 years… first style I learned was Khargyraa… i put the Khargyraa on hold while I learned other styles. Until recently, I’ve been able to do the Khargyraa on command until I trained myself to do these very clear overtone sounds in every other style, and now suddenly I cannot produce any Khargyraa sounds anymore without sounding like I have aqua lung or sound like I’m gargling a mouth full of fiery charcoal…

Has anything similar happened to anyone?

I'm curious. What muscle is being moved to what position? Is it somewhere in the throat that can't be felt, or is it literally impossible without practice? I'm confused as to how practice would help with doing something objective with the throat, vocal chords or chest.

The particulate in the air has been bad around where I live and there were two days that I had not been able to get a strong vibration drone going. It can be felt trying to that but just doesn't "catch."

Anyone else have this occur?

I've recently started learning khoomei throat singing (which, as I discovered, was a thing I've been doing since I was a child without realising) and practising usually puts no strain on my voice. However, yesterday I decided to try and learn the kargyraa style, and I practised for an hour or so. I didn't immediately get vocal fatigue, but this morning I do. Should I stop practising kargyraa? I don't know what I'm doing wrong.