The idol has a great story and makes sense unlike europhia that’s way more sexual and graphic and has way more drugs nudity and everything, and the story on europhia especially season 1 made no sense or their wasn’t much of one. The idol has a proper story and makes sense and it’s not as graphic yet it got way more hate

Anyone know if lily performed I’m a freak live and if so anyone have footage of it.

Is there potential for the show to reboot for a second season? or it’s a dead dream at this point, because HONESTLY I would love for a second season. I really feel like it just reached the wrong audience. Watching the first time I cringed for a lot of scenes but then rewatching it and listening to the sound track its really NOT that BAD! I can see where they were going for the show but the backlash for it was sooooo damaging I see why they cut it.

what was tedros character like in amy’s version of the idol?

What i mean is about the struggle to do good music and get inspirated. Joss had "World class sinner" and wasn't sure about the song being succesful, then she re-recorded the song and add moans. early Abel music was light r&b and called "the noise" then when he went to work with Jeremy rose, they wrote "the morning" and in that version Abel moans. Abel get inspirated when he is on drugs and Jocelyn when she is having rough sex without bondarings. Those things are different but both are destructive.

Rewatching for the first time since it came out - 9/10.

The Weeknd is perfection - skeevy from the second you clock that rat tail on the dance floor. The idea that anyone thought his cringey performance was bad acting - rather than entirely intentional - is clownish in retrospect. (My personal favourite being anyone who thought a guy from Canada who speaks fluent French would accidentally mispronounce "carte blanche" as "cartay blanchay.")

Lily Rose-Depp has such depth and nuance. She is a far, far better actor than I ever thought possible when watching her early work.

From directing to dialogue to embodying these characters, the show builds layers on layers. None hit better than the dinner scene: Classic cult manipulation embedded in what seems like juvenile bullying and naïveté. This is exactly how cults operate and exactly as awkward and conventionally uncharismatic as their leaders tend to be in real life.

It's the job of art to hold a mirror to humanity and The Idol does just that, trading in the sloppy realities of seduction, fame, power and manipulation instead of the standard issue Hollywood cardboard cutout caricatures that tell the audience "oh, he's charismatic manipulator" and "she's naïve victim who'll reclaim her power in the third act."

The shows has a lot of flaws and i think it got some good things as well. But the fact, they decided that Tedros couldn't sing wasn't a good idea, Abel has a sweet voice and the entere show, he is trying to talk like if he were in a ASMR or when tedros wants to fight with Rob, he makes melodic noises. The plot twist of the show should be that Tedros is a good singer but wasn't attractive enough to caugh atenttion from the audience or he losing his voice after trying to compete in a talent show. The writers needed to use the talent that every cast had and use them as part of the plot. They were miss opportunites

Does anyone know where I can buy the red dressing gown Jocelyn wears in episode 1?

They're actually so fucking amazing?? Void anything else

This show is insane and I'm here for it.

It's far from perfect. There's a bunch of plots that go nowhere. And cringe choices.

And I want more.

I remember Quentin Tarantino asked on an interview why he has so much gruesome blood and violence and his answer was "because it's so much fun!"

I feel the same way. I don't need nudity to be justified thematically every time it's on screen. I'm more than happy starting at Lily-Rose Depp's ass and she seems to be having fun on camera. That's more than enough justification for me. I want movies/shows that are basically dark fantasies that don't always hit the mark.

Also, Lily-Rose is genuinely a good actress and I hope she gets more work.

I just came from watching Euphoria and this show gave me more of what I wanted. A show with intense themes, plenty of nudity, and it's fun to watch. I liked somethings about it, I didn't like others.

This backdrop was from the original version of The Idol.

https://www.tiktok.com/@annahartzog/video/7333765515216932142

I had never heard the name before watching The Idol and now he’s my UberEats driver 🤪. Thought I would share this funny coincidence with people who’d understand.

so i just finished the 3rd episode and im trying to figure out did tedros hurt joss with a brush?! like im sooo baffled and confused

If this is supposed to be a representation of Hollywood and the music industry…. And THEN be called entertainment at the same time …. Then it’s no wonder Epstein And others alike got away with shit and others will continue getting away with it . What a circus. And so cringy to watch. Hollywood is so messed up!

Just started the show and so far, I’m really enjoying it… but to be honest- all the hate is what encouraged me to start it. What inspired you to start it?

Overall, I didn’t like the show. I thought it was needlessly graphic — all shock, no value — and the story could have been told without so many violent and/or sexual scenes.

That being said, with the exception of The Weeknd, I thought the acting was EXCELLENT. The featured musicians showed up and showed OUT. Especially Troye Sivan singing My Sweet Lord. The performances, both musical and theatrical, really carried the show and I think each actor did an incredible job with what they were given.

SPOILERS AHEAD

In the last episode when Jocelyn is out on her own living her pop star life, Tedros returns and she seemingly takes him back and/or thanks/credits him? Leading up to this scene, I was envisioning a bigger twist — specifically, a revelation that Jocelyn was pulling the strings the whole time and Tedros was actually her pawn/prey. I hoped she had already clocked Tedros, his harem of musicians, and his cult leader persona. Maybe Jocelyn knew she had to act a certain way to lure Tedros in and make him think that he was controlling her.

I really think this would have been a more satisfying ending to an underwhelming and, frankly, uncomfortable season.

What are your alternate endings or edits to The Idol?

I don't mean the songs that the Weeknd produced together with Suzanna Son, Lily Rose Depp, Jenny, Moses Sumney and Troy Sivan, that ended up on his streaming profile, but the music that gets played by Mike Dean for example or Chloe (both Piano) or the remix of World Class sinner that Jocelyne listened to in the studio, or the One of the girls version that is more gently and generally just the credit music/music that gets played within each episode.

Does anyone know if there is a playlist or where I can find the tracks that I am looking for?

Thx in advance

UGH so much cuntery going on everybody slept!

my favorite part is when they’re shooting the music video and joce is going again and again for the perfect take. that’s my energy for the new year

I know art, I live in a family of artists, I've had 2 loves who were both artists, I come from a long line of singers and performers, everywhere I look around me I see beautiful things, and that's what I saw when I watched this show. I was mesmerized the entire time. The music was tantalizing, the story was provocative, and Lilly Rose Depp, she was, like a goddess gracing my 83 inch OLED. The show constantly describes itself, being raw and taking risks. And yet they did, and the risk, well sometimes risks turn sour. Probably more telling of the times and the Plethora of critics who feel the need to virtue signal. The unfortunate resurgence of puritism because everyone feels they either need to be a victim, or are afraid they are promoting something that could be translated as victimization. This was the second worst reviewed show of the year and yet, it is the show that will stick with me for the next decade. If anyone that worked on this show by chance ever reads this I say, sorry for taking so long to watch it, but thank you very much for that intoxicating experience.