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Binging through Good Wife for the first time after having watched the Good Fight, and while Peter is awful in many respects every time he has scenes with Alicia I can't help but think they have some of the best chemistry on the show. Will and Alicia barely have any when I compare the two... curious if I'm alone in this sentiment

With all the help grace was giving Alicia with her firm. It kinda made me upset she fired her, she got her big name clients, kept her mother from being broke and swamped and held it down with the HOA from getting evicted. Not even a huge thank you or anything just Alicia pushing her out. Really disliked that.

If only…

I think if Crouse the investigator was introduced earlier we would have gotten some pretty good dialogue and scenes between kalinda and himself. I would have preferred that over Robyn plus I love him from supernatural. What do you all think?

My favorite involves a garden hose.

Anyone else just despise that one lawyer that comes up all the time Nancy Crozier. The woman that defends the 3D Gun Printing guy?

First time watcher and I’m nearing the end of season 3. Is it uncommon to be disappointed with their relationship, how it played out and how it ended? They both like each other a lot, maybe Will more so, but the relationship never got out of the ‘friends with benefits’ stage. 2 seasons of build up just for a affair no more than what Peter had with his prostitute. The ending of it also never made sense. How does your daughter being missing and you not getting her calls since you were at work lead to breaking off a relationship that had nothing to do with what happened. Could they not have had the relationship mature with Will coming to the house meeting the kids as a work friend’, and have it ultimately broken off at the end due to the kids feelings or Peter’s campaign. Ofc I’ve got more to watch but wondering if it’s a popular thought.

In the episode after Will dies she fires Bob Klepper as a client and mentions that Florric Agos Or Lake and Tordello will not take him either and that he can get lost with his files.

What moment was your favorite?

Back when it first aired, I was in an anti-network tv phase and wasn’t even aware of this show! But a few months ago, desperate for streaming binge options, I started watching it on Paramount + and OMG, I was addicted to!

I was atched the first season of Elsbeth before encountering her in TGW and actually prefer her character in TGW. There’s something different about her in the spin off. Maybe it’s because Ridley Scott isn’t involved? She detects the perp too readily without development of her process IMHO. It’s just a bit too formulaic, lacks the sophistication of the original shows.

I am now burning through The Good Fight. It felt very different but I’m eating it up and enjoy the appearance of characters from the first show. Top notch actors involved in both, high caliber guest actors.

So, are there any other serious I missed that are equally satisfying must sees?

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Been rewatching for a month now (on season 4 ep 15) and I miss Will, Kalinda, and Elsbeth so much. They’re my faves. I know Elsbeth has a tv show, but it’s not available where I am 😭

Will being killed is still one of the best plot twists ever. NEVER saw it coming and not having him around was so sad. The show was never the same. And I really wanted him and Alicia together 🥹😫

Also hated that Kalinda kinda fell on the wayside because of Julianna’s and Archie’s alleged fighting. Finding out that their last scene together wasn’t even them being in the same frame was so disheartening and a loss.

Seasons 1-3 are rock solid in writing, character arcs, Lockhardt-Gardner lawfirm arcs, performances, court cases. Watching in total continuity it is easier to assess how "filler episodes" populated by super annoying characters like Martha Plimpton and Cary's investigator -- who individually and together turn babies in strollers into absolute dread... same with growing annoyance every time seeing F. Murray Abraham and Rita Wilson. For me, by contrast, Michael J Fox's "Mr. Canning" was more cleverly annoying and his development more in depth. And of course we all love Elsbeth and Carrie Preston's ADD performances - without any character or storyline ever once referencing what she was doing.

Season 4 began to lose my attention, the bankruptcy arc with Nathan Lane really grew tedious very quickly, though there were numerous strong episodes in the season featuring Military Court and Amanda Peet. Introduction to NSA was awesome.

But Season 5 is almost completely annoying -- It's been so many years since I enjoyed the original run, I just didn't remember fast forwarding and skipping through multiple episodes (of course on network broadcast TV you simply could not do it anyway). More boring uninteresting plotting -- but I enjoyed Cary's journey and could never fast-forward his scenes, nor Kalinda's. But Alicia's arc moving toward her "Breaking Bad" destiny was so strident and loud she began losing all sympathy from me. Jackie's development was way over-dominant in screen time, she too descended into yet another annoying cartoon. Eli with America Ferrera was just embarrassing and pathetic.

I just got to Season 5, episode 11, and just seeing F. Murray Abraham in opening frames made me stop to come write this. I just don't remember it being this weak... of course I know what's to come in just a handful more episodes, and I look forward to that. But if the high annoyance factor of overused characters persists, I just might have to skip to Season 6.

The Good Wife went from a show of empowerment to a show of belittlement. It literally killed characters just to make women seem more important when they were the problem. Alicia is the worst character of the show, and they empowered her and Diane at the expense of all the men in the show, like Cary and Will. Even Peter wasn't entirely in the wrong after they got passed the scandal. Saint Alicia always had or be seen as innocent, even when she wasn't. This is most obvious when she basically cuts off her son and then demands he be a good little boy for any comments about mommy running for states attorney and to say she was just a wonderful effing parent. Ugh. She disgusts me with her entitlement and self righteousness.

I got a lot of thoughts but my first one is Eli Gold, I LOVE him. His character is so funny and make me laugh many times. Easily one of my fav characters!!

Actually he was the reason I continued after will, everything after him was just.. ugh. Alicia making a new firm and barely gets it going before she wants states attorney? Hanning starts at the original firm, chilling with David? Peter wants president?? 😕

I know I am supposed to be rooting for Alicia, but I can't help but feel sympathetic towards Prady. Maybe it's because it's DHP (Niles Crane is still the best sitcom character of all time), but also because he does genuinely seem to be the better person.

Anyone else like him?

If u had to make the decision in Will and Diane' s place who would u let go and who would you keep. Would you have done the same thing that the firm did or would u not hire 2 to fire one in the first place?

Since she blew it with both Jason and Diane, did she stay with Peter? I always wondered.

They always have clients (high revenue generating clients).

Billing is hourly basis (how much time u spend on the case for both seniors and juniors).

There's a systematic process for how expenses are dealt with.

So I don't get how they're always broke, are they just really stupid with money?

They don't even listen to the dude who gives them good advice on how to manage their money.

I'm on season 2 episode 15 and I really don't like the kids. Grace and Zach just don't listen, they're so annoying. I just watched the scene where Grace watches that YouTube video and I'm really just sick of her with that. How can anyone, even a teenager watch that video and think that any of that bullshit makes sense. Why would she hate the mother that worked hard for her and literally did everything for her while her father was in jail and then stayed with him, like she asked. Also, Zach should've literally just stayed away from Becca's crazy ass forever. It's not that hard, just AVOID her. Literally a few episodes after he apologized to his Mom for dating her he starts talking to her again. I'm sick of them both because it's not hard to just not talk about their situation with strangers, don't keep secrets from your parents, and stop talking to bad people. I don't understand how Grace can even think that Jesus wants her to do drugs, commit anarchy, hate her parents, and get bad grades in school. What sense does that make? Even when you're a teenager like Grace doesn't make sense.

Why was Alicia mad at Peter? Did I miss something? Koztko tries to set up Peter because Childs has something on his son, but Peter doesn't fall for it. Then Alicia sees Koztko leave and gets upset?

On e20, First watch through so maybe she explains later.

My goodness! The more I watch this show the more I want to throw my remote to the TV when Jackie appears. I couldn’t imagine having and dealing with a MIL like her.

I really wish they created a Maia Rindell and Roland Blum Spinoff. I would have loved that, seeing how they can twist and bend the ethics of the law.

I think it would be similar to Better call saul, just more chaotic and alot more comedic. Also both Rose Leslie and Michael Sheen are fantastic actors, who played both their parts magnificently.

I really think it'd be something else. And i'd love to see it.

I'm new to The Good Wife, and have been binging it. I got up to episode 18 Doubt before I felt the desire to discuss it online. Since I could only find a single post, from 4 years ago, and I know there must be people who're watching season 1 (again, or for the first time) I wanted to see what others thought.

Personally, I can't believe they glossed over the fact that the defendant had a hand gun - in Illinois - at college. I don't recall if they ever even said if she had a permit to carry or was even over 21. But she not only kept it an in easily accessible location, she kept it LOADED with a chambered round. This is fine WHILE you're concealed carrying (in a safe holster), you DO NOT store it in that condition, and you DO NOT store it loose in a drawer.

I'm not a gun control advocate - I'm a believer that the Second Amendment should be considered everyone's license to carry, no matter what state you live in. But I'm amazed that not only did they gloss over all the legal implications, but they wanted you to feel sorry for her getting 10 years. If it had been her visiting 13 year old brother who was shot because he was snooping through her things while she was in the bathroom, I'd expect a minimum of 10 years for her negligence. Does anyone disagree?

Hey, this is my first time watching this show. Usually tune in during my lunch break. I didn't really know anything about this show going into it other than my ex really loved it, I just want to know why. We usually liked the same kind of shows. That said, what can I expect from this show?

Mind you, I'm only on episode 5. I'm at the part where Peter finally talks to Alicia after his mom alludes to her getting cozy with Will (even though from my view, she is not doing that, she's just working lol. I audibly boo'd at the screen during Peter's "woah is me" monologue.

How far into this show am I gonna have to deal with Peter trying to relove his way back to Alicia? Is Alicia gonna disappoint me a go back to him after he apologizes and eventually gets out of jail? How much of this show is gonna be extremely predictable? Also, what is yalls favorite season? Season 1 is alright so far but it's slow... but in a good way.

I'm just into Season 7, but the first episode was already more engaging than nearly all of S6, where it feels like they were buckling under the loss of Josh.

The bell curve of the whole show, from the one-word titles in seasons 1 and 7, two words in 2 and 6, etc, pairs quite nicely with Alicia having to prove herself again in bond court, kinda like she did in S1.

I thought JDM ruined the show.

Anybody else watching Elsbeth? Season two just premiered and I noticed that Nathan Lane (Clarke Hayden) was recast in Elsbeth as Phillip Cross.