/r/thegoodwife
Subreddit for the CBS All Access show 'The Good Fight' as well as its predecessor show 'The Good Wife', which ended after 7 seasons.
Subreddit for the CBS All Access show 'The Good Fight' as well as its predecessor show 'The Good Wife', which ended after 7 seasons.
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I’ve been wondering about this for a long time now. Why was will so in love with Alicia? Was it their history? Or the fact that she was the one who got away? What are your thoughts?
Hey everybody,
I left a post a few weeks ago about the show. Pleased to say mid way through season 3, it seems to get better by the episode, im glad i stuck it out.. Some thoughts...
I didn't really like anyone that much during season 1. Guess that's why I asked about what I should expect because I disliked so many of the primary characters, it felt like hate watching, even though the script and the actors were great. Anyway.
Kalinda is probably my favorite character so far, followed closely by Alicia. Tbh, their beastie breakup hurt worse than anything else lol. I feel nothing when Peter is on screen with Alica except rage lol and I hate him even more after trying to make her feel bad about Will (before they even really got together).
Otherwise, Kalinda's ability to seduce anyone within 10ft of her should be studied on a scientific level. That girl's game is like MJ's during the bulls dynasty. Good lord.
My favorite litigators are Cary, the lady with red hair that got Peter and Alicia out of hot water and Alicia.
I'm conflicted about Eli Gold.
What about ya'll? Who are ya'lls favorite characters and why?
Also.... maybe I just was lost in the sauce of my early 20s but the show called out so many of the issues we had then but are like on steroids now. Almost makes me wanna study law deeply, just for my own sake.
I've been rewatching the show recently and I'm curious what the consensus is here. Did you support Alicia getting back together with Peter or were you anti them getting back together?
This post contains spoilers for 5x15 (just in case)
So I’ve been wondering- considering that Will’s death was the first step for Alicia to leave Peter- even if it was first just in the form of the arrangement her and Peter had- what would have motivated her to leave him if Will wouldn’t have died?
If Josh Charles had stayed on the show, what do you think would have pushed Alicia to eventually leave Peter?
It took a year or two, but I finished S7 today.
The ending being left ajar is ok with me, by the end Alicia was so indecisive it makes sense that we don't know what became of her (aside from the throw away line in The Good Fight). It feels like all other threads were wrapped up neatly, and the characters we loved most returned in some capacity in the spin-off. (Where is the Kalinda cameo in Elsbeth though??)
Apart from Buffy, this is the only series I've ever rewatched in its entirety. It's easily one of the best things I've ever seen from its arcs to its continuity and casting - including bringing people back from time to time as life does.
The wheels did start to work loose after S5, but it was still leagues ahead of most other shows that were airing at the same time. Great from start to finish.
Alright, so I’m a newbie to the show and I’m currently on episode 15 of season 3. Here are my thoughts on the characters so far:
Alicia: I absolutely love her! I want to protect her at all costs and I’m so happy with how she’s grown as a character.
Will: Love, Will… He just got disbarred, so I’m not sure what this means for my lawyer crush. 😭
Diane: Diane is a boss, and she’s just amazing! She can do no wrong in my eyes.
Cary: Cary is a bit of a mixed bag. I liked him in seasons 1, but I hated him in season 2. However, he does have some redeeming qualities S3, especially when he was looking out for Alicia.
Kalinda: Kalinda is a bit of an enigma. I think I like her, but I don’t trust her. The costume designer obviously has it out for her.
Eli: Eli is Alan Cummings, and need I say more? He’s my favourite! Honorary mention to Parker Posey who plays his ex-wife!
Peter: Peter is the worst. He’s a misogynist, power-hungry man who has nothing redeeming about him.
Grace: Grace is a bit of a pain in the neck, to be honest.
Zach: Zach is also a bit of a pain in the neck, but I guess he’s tolerable.
David Lee: David Lee is not my typical character, but I love his honesty and snark.
Blake: Blake is a total jerk, and I’m so glad he’s gone.
Becca: Becca is absolutely loathsome, and I’m so glad she’s gone.
Jackie: Jackie is diabolical, I can’t stand her.
Elsbeth: Elsbeth is the most quirky lawyer on this show and she always brings a smile to my face when they bring her in the mix!
So just started this show, it’s doing what it needs to do to be binge worthy. But without spoilers does Alicia ever stand up for herself??? Kalinda was spot on when she said she was a push over. Peter weakly apologizes, constantly lies and I’m not convinced he actually loves her, but what having her does for her career. Alicia seems so smart but when it comes to herself it’s driving me crazy. Doesn’t seem like she loves Peter, clearly loves Will… like it’s getting pathetic watching her live her life and apologize for other peoples mistakes! So please tell me she grows.
Rant done, still starting season 2
Side notes
Can we have an appreciation post for Kalinda. She's just amazing and always get the job done. Plus she's sexy.
Lot of times Alicia breaks down when she's calculating expenses. Peter lost a lot of stuff during his trial and wasnt earning. So after he is realeased, are all the expenses of the children still handled by Alicia alone?
I know this probably for another sub but if you haven't seen Elsbeth it's sooo good!
Does anyone have tv drama recommendations that have an equally enticing romantic story line to the good wife? I’ve rewatched it 8 or 9 times because it’s so hard to find a show that lives up to the Alicia-will-Peter love triangle 😭
I’ve watched the good fight, elsbeth, both were enjoyable but lacked the romantic aspect that the good wife was so strong in! Any reccos are appreciated!
When Alicia decided to make a very dumb choice and give up her partnership to join Cary. Her mother put up 140k for a beautiful office yet when they were caught and fired there was no office they worked out of Alicia's Apartment what happened to the office?
I haven't started the good fight yet, but in the good wife they throw in am affair Kurt had with his student the blond one. Where did this come from? Did I miss hints to this earlier in the series, I know there was preferential treatment but not to the point where they were having an affair. And if there were no other hints why did the writers create this? I feel like Kurt was too honest of a man to have an affair, his love for Diane seemed really pure, it was supposed to help overthrow the grand jury but in the premise of the episode it did nothing but cause discourse for Diane.
Binging through Good Wife for the first time after having watched the Good Fight, and while Peter is awful in many respects every time he has scenes with Alicia I can't help but think they have some of the best chemistry on the show. Will and Alicia barely have any when I compare the two... curious if I'm alone in this sentiment
With all the help grace was giving Alicia with her firm. It kinda made me upset she fired her, she got her big name clients, kept her mother from being broke and swamped and held it down with the HOA from getting evicted. Not even a huge thank you or anything just Alicia pushing her out. Really disliked that.
If only…
I think if Crouse the investigator was introduced earlier we would have gotten some pretty good dialogue and scenes between kalinda and himself. I would have preferred that over Robyn plus I love him from supernatural. What do you all think?
My favorite involves a garden hose.
Anyone else just despise that one lawyer that comes up all the time Nancy Crozier. The woman that defends the 3D Gun Printing guy?
First time watcher and I’m nearing the end of season 3. Is it uncommon to be disappointed with their relationship, how it played out and how it ended? They both like each other a lot, maybe Will more so, but the relationship never got out of the ‘friends with benefits’ stage. 2 seasons of build up just for a affair no more than what Peter had with his prostitute. The ending of it also never made sense. How does your daughter being missing and you not getting her calls since you were at work lead to breaking off a relationship that had nothing to do with what happened. Could they not have had the relationship mature with Will coming to the house meeting the kids as a work friend’, and have it ultimately broken off at the end due to the kids feelings or Peter’s campaign. Ofc I’ve got more to watch but wondering if it’s a popular thought.
In the episode after Will dies she fires Bob Klepper as a client and mentions that Florric Agos Or Lake and Tordello will not take him either and that he can get lost with his files.
What moment was your favorite?
Back when it first aired, I was in an anti-network tv phase and wasn’t even aware of this show! But a few months ago, desperate for streaming binge options, I started watching it on Paramount + and OMG, I was addicted to!
I was atched the first season of Elsbeth before encountering her in TGW and actually prefer her character in TGW. There’s something different about her in the spin off. Maybe it’s because Ridley Scott isn’t involved? She detects the perp too readily without development of her process IMHO. It’s just a bit too formulaic, lacks the sophistication of the original shows.
I am now burning through The Good Fight. It felt very different but I’m eating it up and enjoy the appearance of characters from the first show. Top notch actors involved in both, high caliber guest actors.
So, are there any other serious I missed that are equally satisfying must sees?
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Been rewatching for a month now (on season 4 ep 15) and I miss Will, Kalinda, and Elsbeth so much. They’re my faves. I know Elsbeth has a tv show, but it’s not available where I am 😭
Will being killed is still one of the best plot twists ever. NEVER saw it coming and not having him around was so sad. The show was never the same. And I really wanted him and Alicia together 🥹😫
Also hated that Kalinda kinda fell on the wayside because of Julianna’s and Archie’s alleged fighting. Finding out that their last scene together wasn’t even them being in the same frame was so disheartening and a loss.
Seasons 1-3 are rock solid in writing, character arcs, Lockhardt-Gardner lawfirm arcs, performances, court cases. Watching in total continuity it is easier to assess how "filler episodes" populated by super annoying characters like Martha Plimpton and Cary's investigator -- who individually and together turn babies in strollers into absolute dread... same with growing annoyance every time seeing F. Murray Abraham and Rita Wilson. For me, by contrast, Michael J Fox's "Mr. Canning" was more cleverly annoying and his development more in depth. And of course we all love Elsbeth and Carrie Preston's ADD performances - without any character or storyline ever once referencing what she was doing.
Season 4 began to lose my attention, the bankruptcy arc with Nathan Lane really grew tedious very quickly, though there were numerous strong episodes in the season featuring Military Court and Amanda Peet. Introduction to NSA was awesome.
But Season 5 is almost completely annoying -- It's been so many years since I enjoyed the original run, I just didn't remember fast forwarding and skipping through multiple episodes (of course on network broadcast TV you simply could not do it anyway). More boring uninteresting plotting -- but I enjoyed Cary's journey and could never fast-forward his scenes, nor Kalinda's. But Alicia's arc moving toward her "Breaking Bad" destiny was so strident and loud she began losing all sympathy from me. Jackie's development was way over-dominant in screen time, she too descended into yet another annoying cartoon. Eli with America Ferrera was just embarrassing and pathetic.
I just got to Season 5, episode 11, and just seeing F. Murray Abraham in opening frames made me stop to come write this. I just don't remember it being this weak... of course I know what's to come in just a handful more episodes, and I look forward to that. But if the high annoyance factor of overused characters persists, I just might have to skip to Season 6.
The Good Wife went from a show of empowerment to a show of belittlement. It literally killed characters just to make women seem more important when they were the problem. Alicia is the worst character of the show, and they empowered her and Diane at the expense of all the men in the show, like Cary and Will. Even Peter wasn't entirely in the wrong after they got passed the scandal. Saint Alicia always had or be seen as innocent, even when she wasn't. This is most obvious when she basically cuts off her son and then demands he be a good little boy for any comments about mommy running for states attorney and to say she was just a wonderful effing parent. Ugh. She disgusts me with her entitlement and self righteousness.