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I’m rewatching The Good Wife, and this is the first time where I’m actually annoyed at a character. Why was Andrew Wiley so insistent on telling Alicia about an affair that was a rumour? I know it was for plot purposes to have Peter and Kalinda to hook-up and Alicia finding out to cause drama, but what was Andrew’s motives?

He was almost annoying about it.

First, I have to say—my favorite romance in the entire series was Diane and Kurt. When I finished the final episode, they were the ones who stuck with me the most. Their relationship had a rocky start, but watching them grow together and stay committed despite their differences was truly beautiful. The final episodes, where Kurt lies for her and Luca exposes the [possible] affair, were heartbreaking. Alicia absolutely deserved that slap. I feel awful for Diane—cheated on and blindsided by someone she respected and considered a friend.

The last episode really made me reflect on just how far Alicia went for Peter throughout the series. I actually had to sit back and think, wait, that was REALLY messed up, because I had become so desensitized to her behavior. I was hopeful she and Peter would reconcile during the governor race—he had so many moments where he showed genuine love and care for her. The show did a great job illustrating that side of him, but Alicia's indecisiveness made the situation worse, just as it did in all her relationships.

As for Will... I think he was a genuinely good guy who never got over his college crush. He sincerely wanted to help Alicia—not just by getting her a job but by building her confidence, finding her path, and just being her friend. Even when the chemistry started, he really tried to respect her boundaries. Eli's actions with the voicemail were despicable, but if Will and Alicia’s feelings were truly that strong, I don’t understand why they couldn’t just talk. Will told her he loved her, and she ran. She dictated that entire relationship, and it’s crazy how she only wanted him as a FWB until he passed—it feels so disrespectful to him as a person. His sudden shift toward being “evil” and out to get her felt out of character and his extreme decisions after read as forced rather than some kind of breakdown.

Jason, was completely disrespected by Alicia. She constantly referred to him as a "boy" or immature and blamed his preference for simplicity as the reason for her indecisiveness—the same pattern she had with Will. Jason went out of his way to support her, respect her boundaries, and give her what she wanted, yet she never seemed to see him as a whole person.

Kalinda and Cary... easily the weirdest relationship in the show. I never liked Kalinda much, but I always felt like she led Cary on. He was genuinely into her, while she just found him convenient. I wish Cary had a more meaningful romance—maybe with David Lee’s niece (I can’t recall her name). That would have been a much more compelling arc.

Eli and Natalie—I know a lot of people dislike the age gap, but I don’t mind it. Chemistry happens in weird ways. That said, I’m glad they didn’t end up together. Eli being “married” to his job just made sense.

One last thing—Lemond Bishop. I loved his devotion to his son, and I think he was done dirty when he decided to leave the business. Also, easily the hottest character in the show.

Those are my main thoughts for now. What did you guys think of these relationships?

I saw a short where a judge keeps a guy who got robbed in prison for 8 months. What ever happens to him? I saw another one where a judge declares he has immunity, does anything happen to him?

spotted him in satc as a fashion stylist and lost it

Do you guys think that if Eli hadn't deleted the voicemail from Will expressing his love for Alicia, would Alicia have called it quits with Peter?...I personally don't, but I am glad that she woke up and realised she shouldn't have tolerated Peter considering the fact that he even continued to cheat after the scandal ..... but hey, she's the good wife and that's what we're expected to do... continuously forgive a man even when he hurts you :/

6 months is nothing, no time at all. He wasn't a bad boss or partner, he was good at his job. Sometimes shit just happens. None of his clients left the firm so it was not a huge scandal.
Obviously they are just trying to advance their own career. But I don't understand how there aren't safeguards for this situation. Also, why would they do a name change when he is only gone for 6 months? The firm is still his? He is just not practicing. Name changes cost businesses thousands of dollars. Where I am from a hospital changed its name and it cost 800k++.
I don't see the logic, but I see the motivations of selfish, disloyal people.

I just finished TGW and now need another show to fill its slot! Should I go with one of the spin offs? I’ve heard elsbeth and the good fight are great (esp TGF). Also open to other shows that just kind of share a good wife sensibility that you liked. Thanks!

Obviously I know it’s an editing choice. I just find it funny how every time they enter the elevator the doors open at a completely different location. Sometimes I’m wondering if the courthouse and Lockhart and Gardner are in the same building.

The way he treats Eli at the start of season 7.

Eli is a character that grew on me across the seasons and the sheer betrayal by Peter - and that fucking office - I really hate Peter for that!

It's the one guy who actually stood with him across it all - and it's just disgusting!

I'm on my 3rd rewatch. I prefer her over Kalinda, she's a joy to watch and has more than one facial expression. She should have been the firm's main investigator from day one.

I'm rewatching for the third time, and I can't stand the kids. I know the family dynamics are a core part of the show storyline but I just can’t bring myself to care about these two they’re so dull and they add nothing

It's honestly so funny because she keeps saying she's not a quitter but she hates how long the series is. She's become used to the shorter-season series that we get now.

Keeps grumbling while watching it, about how she's never letting me talk her into starting a new show ever again.

She'd been obsessed with Suits for the longest time (watched it during the lockdown) and I kept telling her TGW is so much better. And I know after watching it that she wants to disagree but can't. I love it.

I loveee all the guest turns on TGW and for the first few appearances Elsbeth started out as one of my favourites which is high praise amongst the other amazing guest appearances. She was quirky and fun to watch on screen as well as being razor sharp. But in the later seasons I found her character so annoying, I feel like the writers made her so dumb and easily distracted by stupid and silly things that was more annoying to watch than entertaining. Like every single sentence had to be followed by ‘I love that hat!’ or something instead of actually showing her quirky personality it was more just slowing down the dialogue with pointless lines?

first one is the silliest: is this generally considered to be a chick show? i get that impression but i can't begin to understand why

i mean, there ARE some soap opera moments, especially in later seasons, some of them REALLY cringeworthy (eye's mind? really?), and it shares one of the principals with sex and the city, but other than that i don't see it as a particularly female oriented show, just like the good fight (which i never had the impression suffered from a similar misconception)

so i guess the actual question would be, is the majority of members here male or female?

on with the second, more serious question: how accurate are the legal details on the show? i don't have a list of all the 'funny' things that happen during the run of the show, starting from the zach episode, to the proxies, to the last trial with peter getting a better deal from the prosecutor AFTER it was proven he was guilty (even though the judge didn't admit the evidence bcs cush trashed kurt on the stand... uh???), but it would be really great to have a running commentary from a US based legal professional (im european so in the dark about most things), much like a medical running track would be a great extra on an hypotethical future release of ER on bluray (so many great shows are still without a worthy homevideo release, including this one, but at least we get friends and seinfeld in 4k, yuhu!)

Who is the adorable new accountant/lawyer at Florick Argos, and why does he remind me of Sam Gamgee?

S1E1:

That slap in the face! I wonder how many times they had to do that scene.

It's a problem I have almost every episode.

Client comes in and asks Alicia to sue X or Y, they show up to court and opposing counsel has completely relevant, and findable information that totally destroys her case.

She could have saved so much time by just doing like 5 minutes of research before going to court. Like establishing facts, for example.

When Cary is fired because he lost the competition with Alicia, that made zero sense since the office was having financial issues and in this situations is best to mantain cheaper employees.

I am in season 1 and this infuriates me. I hate HATE how Peter's mother is sooooo. She thinks his son, just because he apologized to alicia, meant he is already cleared of what he did. AND NO ONE even recognizes the hurt peter did to Alicia even her son and her daughter?!?! Like she had to step up to provde, shielded her children, and had to navigate through wverything despite of it all and what, people think that once her husband apologizes its all over? like he CHEATED ffs. Everyone in her immediate family doesnt know about that especially peter's infuriating mom who patronizes him.

ive seen people saying Alicia eventually becomes evil and I think rightfully so.

I used to love this drama, thinking it was a powerful series with a strong female lead. But a few years down the track, after much life experience, I've been rewatching. Why is it that Peter gets rewarded time and time again after his significant indiscretions - he gets offered govener and eventually VP. Alicia on the other hand gets rail loaded and her greatest achievement is "standing by her husband".

To me that's absolutely disgusting. I respected Alicia so much more when got together with Will. I wish she told Peter to get F'ed and did everything in her power to ruin his life. Now that would be a great series.

Hiw can we still be finishing lead female roles into either a scorned woman/b1tch or a doormat who tolerates absolutely filth from their husbands.

Any recommendations for a truly powerful female lead series? No standing by pricks.

What became of Kalinda's criminal drug dealing husband? Did he just skip town or did Kalinda whack him because of his threats???

On season 1 episode 20, I hate Jackie. Peter is exactly the way he is because of her. I hate Jackie and Peter.

Watching Chicago P.D. and the actor who played David Lee is a priest. Loved his grumpy character on TGW, but it made my head spin to see him with a collar. Ha Ha.

Season 4 episode 12

He is the most adorable judge on the series and I just love his character!

Just finished watching season 7 episode 17 with gun violence and the way he goes around the law to favour the guy who lost his daughter is just poetic justice!

Every time I get posts from this sub showing up on my feed, there’s so much admiration and interest in the character of Kalinda, and annoyance about the whole feud with Julianna, and the effect on her participation in the show.

But I really… don’t get it? She was such a boring character. We knew almost nothing about who she was, what she cared about, what she felt. And the actress played her so stiffly. She didn’t feel like a real human being. I get that a certain amount of mystery is interesting, but too much mystery, and you just become a blank space. I was never convinced that there was anything tangible behind that cryptic facade. By which I mean that it didn’t seem like the writers had bothered to flesh her out into anyone real. She’s just a hot badass hyper competent woman with a knack for seduction, which is so so boring.

I think she stuck out to me so much, because in general, the show is really good at giving characters very distinct personalities and perspectives. Characters like Diane, Cary, and Peter clearly live and breathe as human beings, regardless of whether you like or enjoy them, or know every detail about them. Even a lot of the fleeting guest characters just made sense. In contrast Kalinda was- flat, cardboard.

Can anyone help explain her appeal to me?

And for what it’s worth, I’m a bisexual brown woman. I wanted to like her! And I’m not the type to be very critical about representation that’s relevant to me. So it’s extra weird to me how distasteful I find her character, when so many others love her. I’m wondering if I’m missing something.

OH MY GAWD I MISS KALINDA

Season 7 😭

I do love the NSA melodrama narrative is back 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🥳

Spoilers! But as any of us who have watched Season 5 know - Peter screws Diane over by taking away her judgeship. I just don’t understand why he would do it when it actually hurts both him and Alicia? Yes it makes sense from a you helped screw over my wife so I’m going to punish you politically sense BUT, all it ends up doing is keeping Diane at the firm when Alicia and co were planning to take some of her clients especially.

We as the audience obviously are aware that Diane was more cordial during it all, she refuses to testify against F&A and Alicia made a point of not voting to remove Diane. They had a silent respect for one another. Peter doesn’t know this like we do but did he not think to talk to Alicia about it first? Alicia had planned to take a good amount of her clients + Lockhart and Gardener would have been weaker losing her. Peter taking it away only opened him up to starting his path of being an unethical governor and pushed Diane to stay at L&G which:

• United Diane and Will
• Kept a strong lawyer in the game who is now firmly against Alicia
• Lost some of F&A’s planned clients because some of the clients only wanted to join F&A because Diane was leaving.

I know Peter is presented as an irrational decision maker when it comes to his family but they also show he’s politically savvy so I just personally felt his decision to do it without talking to Alicia was stupid and was curious if anyone else had thought this? Or has reasons why he did it that justify it?

I’ve binge watched The Good Wife, then The Good Fight. I’d say both started off good, but lost me towards the end. Ultimately I saw them both through, but I was ready for it to be over.

Kalinda’s departure from TGW was kinda wack to me, and I was surprised she didn’t pop back up later on. AnywHOo, I’ve been watching some shows on Apple + TV. They’ve got some good stuff. As I’m watching a series called Hijack, I was surprised to see Miss Kalinda! Still looks the same, and rocking the same hairstyle. The star of the series is sexy behind Idris Elba, so that’s another plus. I highly recommend it.