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Discussion of individual terpenes, the entourage effect, advancements in the field, etc. and the many applications of terpenes.

/r/Terpenes

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Citral: my thoughts on its effects

I'm currently trying pure terpenes on their own and in blends to see how they affect the high of cannabis. Here's my report on citral!

Methods (feel free to skip, boring)

Someone requested more detailed information on the methods and preparations of the terpenes. After experimenting with the beta-caryophyllene and the d-limonene, I decided that transdermal application was quite risky, as it poses the risk for allergic contact dermatitis, a permanent allergy that can develop if terpenes or essential oils are used on the skin too frequently or at too high of concentrations. While experimenting with beta-caryophyllene, I also discovered that oral dosing was quite inefficient without the addition of sunflower lecithin, an idea I had based on research about using microemulsions to enhance terpene oral delivery. The use of lecithin greatly enhanced the absorption of the beta-caryophyllene (and now the other terpenes tested), so much so that initial effects can be felt within 5 minutes and peak rapidly, lasting approximately 2-3 hours before effects fully fade. Thus, due to both safety reasons and efficacy, I now choose to test with an oral route of administration, of approximately 25mg for a strong dose, and 12.5mg for a half-dose. This dosage range seems to be relatively consistent for the terpenes I've tested thus far. For this test, I consumed 25mg of citral in 100mg MCT oil, with an eye-balled amount of liquid sunflower lecithin thoroughly mixed to enhance the oral bioavailability (critical for effective systemic absorption).

Also, quick side note for my future reports: I'm realizing it's going to be a real pain to make cannabinoid blends for every terpene I want to test. So I think for my future tests, I will form my opinions of the combined effects by simply inhaling from a 100% HHC cartridge (versus 98% HHC + 2% terpene ratio I was using before) and ingesting the terpene separately. In my previous two tests where the HHC was blended with the terpene first, the effects were very similar to consuming them separately, just slightly milder, so I think it will be a suitable method to determine how the terpene affects the high.

What's it feel like on its own?

[6.25mg x4 titrated]: My first time using citral on it's own, I was confused by its effects, as it seemed to feel both uncomfortable and comfortable, oscillating between these states. For about a period of 10m, I'd experience dysphoria, body chills, mild intestinal distress, and anxiety. Then, suddenly I'd feel a wave of relief, euphoria, warmth, emotional and pain relief, and sensory enhancement. In the "euphoric" periods of the experience, I'd enjoy the soft texture and warmth of a blanket, and musical enhancement. My mind felt very quiet.

[25mg]: The next few times I tried citral, I made sure to do a full dose all at once, rather than working up to it (as I like to make sure I do not overdo it on my first test). These experiences seemed much more consistent, with a distinct "come up" phase that lasted about 30 minutes, followed by the same euphoric stage that remained for the rest of the experience.

Truthfully, if I had read a report like this from a stranger on the internet about a terpene that's commonly found in lemongrass, I probably wouldn't take them too seriously. But I can truthfully say that I found my experience with citral to be not too dissimilar from taking a very low dose of a psychedelic, albeit much milder.

What's it feel like in blends?

Citral combined with HHC was actually quite pleasant. The "come up" period was still present but less uncomfortable, including stimulation, temperature fluctuations, and sensory enhancement. I definitely noticed some strong music enhancement during both phases, and my high was very clear headed and lucid. After the initial 30 minute come-up period, the temperature fluctuations are replaced with a steady warm and cozy feeling, and the stimulation was replaced with more relaxation. An anxiolytic and antidepressant feeling was prominent. I'd describe the experience as being in my own world, engaged in my sensory activities. I honestly didn't think this combination would go well, but I was surprised.

Closing thoughts

Overall, citral was an absolute shocker of a terpene to try. I did not expect these reactions whatsoever, but after giving it a chance, I do really enjoy it. This would be great for watching a long movie, or listening to music, or any sort of sensory experience. I would like to just warn everybody that the come-up period can be uncomfortable, but used in low percentages, I think it would still be manageable for most people.

Would love to answer questions or hear comments, thanks for reading <3

9 Comments
2024/11/14
04:44 UTC

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FAVORITE MASS TERPENES

Based on my previous post, floraplex terpenes are not it, and I have read good things about mass terpenes so I think I’ll give them a try and order 20 or so flavors that I can cut down to a total of 10 flavors for a brand I’m working on. Let me know flavor recommendations, trying to stay away from strain specific terps

10 Comments
2024/11/13
06:33 UTC

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Can’t find terps that work

Creating a brand, need a solid lineup of 10 flavors, currently tried 20+ terpenes from floraplex and don’t necessarily love any of them. Tried different versions of my recipe to see if that would make a difference but not too much luck. Current recipe I’m doing right now is 70% distillate 23% resin 7% terpenes. Is it the recipe or the terpenes? Any terpene websites you guys recommend? Thanks

8 Comments
2024/11/13
00:00 UTC

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How does one get some free samples?

Been busting out hundreds of carts the last few weeks and it’s only getting busier.

Tried Denver Terps and Mass Terps. I’m loving the CdT from Mass Terps, but i can’t lie, after seeping Denver Terps for a week in the cart, oh my they are some tasty carts.

I’d love to test out some other companies.

10 Comments
2024/11/12
19:44 UTC

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ANY RECOS

Im looking for flavorful terps with a smooth hit. TYIA

2 Comments
2024/11/12
15:35 UTC

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List of Gassy terps. Agree, or no speaka da terpanese?

propane-1-thiol

S-methyl ethanethioate

propane-2-thiol

methylsulfanyldisulfanylmethane

ethyldisulfanylethane

S-prop-2-enyl propanethioate

1- ethylpropyl hydrosulfide

3-sulfanylbutan-2-one

2-methylundecanal

2-hexylthiophene

2-ethyl-5-methylfuran

(Z)-hex-4-en-1-ol

5-methyl-2-sulfanyl-4-heptanone

Everyone around here speaks a different language, just trying to find some common fucking ground.

Not what I'd call fucking "gassy" but it's a lot better than the shit your AI Chatbot or your hemp dealer is feeding you.

Normal fucking people would refer to alkanes as gassy but all the shitty growers with toxic vinyl benzene terps don't want you to think about the cause of your future cancer.

1 Comment
2024/11/12
04:02 UTC

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FREE public, open source database for essential oils and terpenes

Hello! The mods of r/Terpenes said it was okay for me to post this so potentially this can be of use to someone now or in the future.

I basically found a website, https://essentialoils.org/db, that has a massive database of essential oils and their terpene constituents. I basically wrote a program to scrape this website so that we can use this data on personal projects, whether that be making your own database or just browsing through it.

Here is the scraped data on my Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HmjcVaIhtg4c2q-NvdNyJe1vhSM4VFAw?usp=drive_link

  • all_oils_terps.json: Has the breakdown of terpenes in each essential oil
  • all_compounds_terps.json: Basically the other way around, has a list of terpenes and which essential oils it is found in and at what %
  • oils-archive-essentialoils-dotcom-XXX.zip: RAW data scraped from the website's API including a table of contents JSON file, and then a huge folder of every essential oil's data.
  • compounds-archive-essentialoils-dotcom-XXX.zip: Basically the other way around but for the terpenes.

Note, the raw data files have additional info like citations, oil/terpene synonyms, etc. that you may find interesting. The first two files are just very conveniently made to help your searches.

I'm not sure how many people will find this information useful, but maybe if someone searches for it on Google in the future it may be useful. Thanks peeps <3

0 Comments
2024/11/12
03:19 UTC

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True terpenes quality

I've been trying multiple terpene vendors for mixing disty carts at an 8-10% by weight ratio. I orderd the "live resin" options and tried them at that ratio in my ccell EVO model 1mls and was very disappointed with the flavor basically non existent when you open the bottle for both live resin options. The permanent marker had a faint sharpie vibe which is okay but it was very faint and not appealing really. The grandaddy purple had no smell. One of there hr people sent me an email pertaining to my purchase and my satisfaction. I gave my honest opinion and asked for there most skunky/pungent and a cheesy terps. I got sent two products that smell nothing like what i wanted and get this its "5" ml but it smells like nothing, the donny burger had a slight smell. The two live resin ones that i mixed up were harsh so i didn't even bother mixing these up if my nose says no. Sometimes the nose don't lie if its that 🔥. I emailed the HR rep back and communicated my experience and my concern they dilute there products. They gave me the typical "we care about consumer saftey and pride ourselves in quality" but they could not send me a COA, isn't that funny and ironic? I've had good exoerinces with Abstrax they are straight gas and economical that bacio gelato really impressed me, it had a good gasey/pungent smell that I'm still waiting to try while it sits. I still have like 12 from them i have to try but they actually have good noses on there products when you open the bottle unlike true terpenes I'm breathing though my nose so hard trying to find some smell that's not there.

11 Comments
2024/11/08
23:06 UTC

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My terpene collection so far! I've got terps from all over.

30 Comments
2024/11/08
03:05 UTC

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D-limonene: my thoughts on its effects in blends

I'm currently trying pure terpenes on their own and in blends to see how they affect the high, and now I've come to some opinions on d-limonene.

What's it feel like on its own?

I was not a fan of d-limonene on its own. I found it to be very intense and for little to no positive effects. It makes me feel warm (to the point of discomfort), very dumbfounded and loopy, a painful amount of headbanding, and some mild body tingling somewhat akin to a CBG-rich blend's body high but milder. It was just way too intense to be useful for anything in my experience using it by itself in sizable quantities.

What's it feel like in blends?

D-limonene in a low concentration in blends (1-5%) is mild in flavor, it tastes citrusy like lemon or orange. In terms of effects, what stands out the most is the very intense headbanding it adds, which can get borderline uncomfortable at times. In higher amounts it can make me feel very warm temperature-wise, almost like I'm overheating. I found it to be quite stimulating, almost serotonergic-feeling (not sure if that's what it actually is though). D-limonene is pretty dumbfounding as well, almost loopy, which can be overwhelming. I didn't notice much anxiety relief or mood boost, though.

Closing thoughts

Honestly, I was not a big fan of the way d-limonene feels in blends (or on its own for that matter). However, if you're someone who loves the headband effect of certain marijuana strains, this is probably the terpene for you.

7 Comments
2024/11/07
19:23 UTC

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Beta-caryophyllene: a valuable tool on its own & in blends

I've spent some time experimenting with pure beta-caryophyllene and feel confident enough to give my opinions on it.

What is beta-caryophyllene (BCP)?

Beta-caryophyllene (BCP) is a naturally found terpene found in cloves, cannabis, and black pepper. It's a CB2 full agonist (Ki = 155 nM). You can buy it pure and use it for it's effects.

What's it feel like on its own?

On its own, I actually think BCP is pretty incredible in terms of its effects. It gives me a pressure behind my eyes, it's deeply physically and mentally relaxing, somewhat buzzy, lightly disinhibiting, and actually quite stoning. It's almost like being high, but with much less euphoria and not much psychoactivity. It's like a nice body high.

What's it feel like in blends?

In my opinion, BCP feels very similar to CBC, minus the warm, fuzzy mood boost and emotional enhancement. It's intensely relaxing, somewhat buzzy (similar to a CBG body high imo), and is decently stoning. You can really feel it in the eyes. It's like "dark mode CBC" (my favorite way to describe it).

Closing thoughts

I was extremely surprised by the effectiveness of the BCP, and it's really made me curious about other potential terpenes like d-limonene, a/b-pinene, myrcene, etc. I am actively testing more terpenes to see if I discover other similarly valuable tools. So far, nothing has come close to the sheer potency of the effect that BCP provides, but I'll keep looking. Hope you guys find this information useful <3

4 Comments
2024/11/07
19:22 UTC

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Who has some good BDT cereal milk terps?

I love the milky effect makes harsh stuff hit smoother i think and I like the cereal taste.

6 Comments
2024/11/04
12:56 UTC

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Best way to add terps to flower

Have some flower with no taste and kind of dry, I have a decent amount and want to add a flavor to it.I recently bought some terps from trueterpenes that was meant for flower but I don’t know how to safely get it to the flower where I can taste the flavor and not just smell it I’ve tried the raw terp spray but they didn’t really affect the flavor. What’s the best way of going about it I see there is bucket systems for purchase but haven’t seen any reviews on it

8 Comments
2024/11/03
15:53 UTC

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In search of Piña Colada terps. TYIA

8 Comments
2024/11/01
21:49 UTC

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Mass terpenes Sour Diesel

I finally ordered the Full spectrum sour diesel from mass terpenes. My entire house smells like it at the moment. But it’s exactly what I wanted in a flavor. I’m so glad I finally ordered it.

3 Comments
2024/10/31
23:38 UTC

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Using CBC as thinning agent.

I have some great Cat3 Disty I’m making alot of pens with. I’ve been using “true terpenes: FLOW” to thin out my carts since this is probably the thickest distillate I’ve ever had. But I’ve noticed using flavorless terpenes, I noticed the pens can be a little harsh in a weird way. (TT flow is like 3 diff flavorless terpenes mixed together or something). So I saw that Hello Terpenes sells CBC, so I figured I’d finally try HT out and buy some CBC and try it out. So my question is, what ratio do yall use when using CBC for thinning? Also is it your favorite thinning agent to use? Where do yall get yours from?

Thanks so much for your help I really appreciate it!

Whoadi

29 Comments
2024/10/31
07:57 UTC

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Mass Terps

Does mass terps have an easy way of determining what’s Hybrind, sativa or indica?

3 Comments
2024/10/30
18:08 UTC

0

Urgent question about this brand and bottle ?..

I see it says liquidizer on the Terpz USA website. Does that come with a spray bottle too because I need terps that I can spray on cannabis flower

12 Comments
2024/10/29
15:11 UTC

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New to Terping, no idea where to get good terps

I'm new to terping and recently bought hhc+other noids but no terps. I only have $6 to my name, but any ideas where to get terps even if it takes me a few weeks before I can use it. I prefer BDT'S but CDT's are welcome too if price is right.

Edit: I know $6 isn't enough. I'm asking for future reference, as im getting some cash in the next 2 weeks, could be tomorrow.

22 Comments
2024/10/28
22:08 UTC

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What’s your favorite Terpene strain and why? It can be anything!

My all times favorite is Runtz I just love that sweet piney flavor and subtle smell. What you people on the terp Reddit and it’s just relaxes me makes me feel like I’m in a cabin in the woods feeling it’s just fresh.

OG Kush for that loud and gassy flavor. Nothing compares with real gas imo

And love the candy like Zkittles

12 Comments
2024/10/28
06:34 UTC

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Terps and entourage effect

I got 1 or 2 questions.

1: I am new to terpenes, so i bought d9 distillate and entourage series terp from abstrax. Why do i feel like i didnt make the right choice of terps? Do they have more potent terps that will feel like the bud?

2: has anyone tried abstrax terp and if so, which series gives more the entourage effect?

11 Comments
2024/10/27
20:09 UTC

0

Hot gir summer terpenes?

I had a hot girl summer 2 g disposable in Cali and I miss it has anyone seen hot girl summer terps anywhere? It's like pink guava flavored I think?

4 Comments
2024/10/27
17:22 UTC

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HelloTerpenes

Picked up 2 mls of helloterpenes premium line strain permanent marker just off first impression definitely has an a strong gassy sharpie scent to it currently waiting on some raw hhc from Harbor city to arrive in the mail so I can test it out

11 Comments
2024/10/27
05:31 UTC

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has anyone tried these for distillate ?

8 Comments
2024/10/26
19:07 UTC

7

Mass Terpenes

Strains :

Zour apple Trop cookies Pink lemonade Tangie Grape god Runtz Strawberry cough Key lime pie White runtz live extracted cdt Jungle cake live extracted cdt Gush melon cdt Pineapple diesel hdt

I purchased the first 8 BDT strains with their 40% fall discount. The cdts and hdt were free in exchange for a review.

Of the first 8 terpenes, only the strawberry cough and runtz were misses. As for the CDTs and HDT, the live extracted CDTs( jungle cake and white runtz) have that gassy skunk aroma that most people seem to be looking for. On the other hand, regular gush melon cdt and pineapple diesel hdt have a grassy smell.

8 Comments
2024/10/23
19:38 UTC

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Working to bring giveaways soon!

Hello, we here at r/terpenes are working with several terpene vendors to form giveaways. Several terp producers have asked for this and we know everyone loves free terps!

We are working to bring a giveaway from Mass Terpenes, who have an ever expanding catalog of CDT's. They have really been working to bring quality CDT's strain profiles to the market.

We plan on also working with Canna Refined to bring a giveaway for their sought after extractions as well. We hope to secure more terp providers in future giveaways.

Who's terpenes would you like to see?

Any attacks/comments on/about how "terpenes are bad" will be removed due to extreme ignorance.

(This is not a review post, please keep comments positive)

22 Comments
2024/10/22
16:37 UTC

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Peoples opinions, first hand experience w/ Terpene Wharehouse?

I have never recieved a response to emails, and requests for info about thier buissnes. I wanted to see what peoples general opinion of them was and why?

Thanks!

1 Comment
2024/10/21
21:45 UTC

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Terpene Warehouse- Who you terpin with???

18 Comments
2024/10/21
15:02 UTC

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Descriptive article on Terpenes.

So, while I was browsing about the articles to learn more about the Terpenes and its effect. I found out about this article. It completely describes about Terpenes and its effects. Hope any person looking to learn more about Terpenes can find the content valuable.

https://kures.co/cannabis-terpenes-a-comprehensive-guide/

0 Comments
2024/10/21
07:30 UTC

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Is bucanna labs legit

4 Comments
2024/10/19
15:40 UTC

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