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Schutzhund (German for protection dog) is a dog sport that was developed in Germany in the early 1900s to test whether German Shepherd Dogs (GSDs) exhibit the traits necessary for police-type work, rather than simply evaluating a dog's appearance. Today, many breeds other than German Shepherds can compete in Schutzhund, but it is a demanding test for any dog and few are able to pass successfully.
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I am starting the very slow look into my future K9 companion, and I would love some advice and recommendations regarding dog breeds and blood lines. And even what to look for when I do start chatting with potential breeders in the future?
I have always had mutts, so my experience with purpose bred dogs is limited to Aussies and boarder collies. Recently I quite literally found a Dane cross, he is pretty high drive and loves to work in obedience, if I had him as a puppy I think he would have made a fabulous protection dog. But due to a rather hard upbringing he is temperamentally not stable enough to ever compete in schutzhund or do any real protection work. Through him however I have really found a new passion with the schutzhund world and the obedience that comes along with it, and I think I would really enjoy competing in it in the future.
So to my actual question, as someone that has very little experience with very high drive dogs, what breed and blood lines would everyone recommend?
I live in Canada and have family in Europe and the U.S, so I am happy to import the perfect dog from another country as well.
What’s some positive outcomes for sporting dogs that have had bowel surgery for obstructions?
What do you feel like are the harder surfaces to track on? My dog has mostly tracked on grass, but entering a trial which is dirt. Any advice?
Hey, folks - I was about to put down a deposit on a GSD pup to be ready sometime next year, but apparently my insurance may drop me if I get him/her. I’ll be making some calls next week to find out more definitive answers.
That being said, I started googling a bit to see if anyone had other recommendations as to breeds that I could compete with. Everyone at the club I know if basically GSD, but some folks have mentioned Airedales (if you can find a working one), or Malinois. The problem with the latter is it seems everyone on the internet says you basically can’t get one unless you are spending freaking 10 hours a day every day training and exercising.
I’m active and work from home on 20+ acres, and the dog will come with me everywhere possible on my day to day activities, but it seems like that is just not enough for a Malinois or even another variation of Belgian.
With that in mind, I’m still looking. Anyone got any other recommendations as I go down this rabbit hole…?
Thanks!
I am picking up my Cane Corso puppy next week and I am interested in protection dog training. I would like to train with a club and not simply send him away to be trained. I have looked up some local organizations but I am not exactly clear if they accept Cane Corsos. The Greater Philadelphia area Schutzhund club for example. I am willing to drive 2-3 hours for the training and I am hopping someone can point me to some local resources. I am in the Harrisburg PA area.
I am an experienced dog owner, and have owned large breed dogs most of my life, I am proficient at standard obedience training but have never done bite or protection training. This is something I don't take lightly and would like to train with a club to ensure I am doing things the safe and correct way rather than try to learn from online resources.
I am mostly interested in practical training, not so much for sport.
Does every female/female pairing fight?
For many years I had two females together. Since the younger was seven weeks old. Never had any issues.
Older girl was very low drive, but also the alpha. Younger female is actually GSD x malinois cross, high drive, is my sport dog, and the one who got me into IGP. She also goes everywhere with me. You take on the field at a trial and she’s all business, but she’s also social enough I can take her to a brewery and hand her to a friend while I go get a beer.
When the younger girl was 4 years old, my now ex boyfriend (who I should never trusted with two working dogs) convinced me he could watch them for a week while I was gone on a work trip. He decided to feed them out of the same bowl. On day 4 there was a dog fight, he didn’t know how to break it up, amped her up even more with essentially stick hits, and she almost killed my older female. Sutures to the neck later, and they recovered, but I could never forget the sound of that dog fight through a phone call 2000 miles away, and I never trusted them together without my younger girl being in her basket muzzle. The older girl had just begun to show signs of DM when the fight happened (subtle enough I didn’t know yet, but would become apparent a few months later). I think my younger girl knew.
Anyways, fast forward many titles, trials, half marathons, backpacking trips later, and my once young girl is now getting up there. She’s a really great dog—super social, great drive but easy to live with, great environmental nerves, and I didn’t want that to die with her. I really wanted a male puppy of hers to raise with her, and to be my next sport dog.
I bred her with an amazingly social and stable malinois in august via TCI. I’ve spent thousands and thousands of dollars. I’ve prayed every night (and yes, for those wondering, both dogs are OFA’d, DM clear, and titled). I’ve pictured my boy and what our life will be like 3 years from now when he can trail run with me as she gets too old.
Her two puppies were delivered yesterday and they’re both females, and I don’t know why I’m so devastated. I wanted to keep a puppy so bad and now I’m so scared. I did all of this to keep a puppy and now I’m terrified.
Can someone please tell me that not every female/female pairing fights? Especially if mother and daughter?
My dog lived with an intact female French bulldog for a year when she was 3, and they never fought. There was never ever a fight til the day of eating out of one bowl, and then I never trusted again.
I don’t know if it’s the fact I’ve been through the ringer in the last day (they were c section and I’ve just been crying and terrified), snd been waking up every 2 hours to ensure they are fed so I’m loopy, but I am a mess today.
We are not trying to do the sport, because we met with the only trainer close enough to us, and don’t like them. But, our puppy has loved the exercises we’ve learned so far, so we just want to do stuff for fun with her at home. All we’ve really done so far is work on drive by using a flirt pole as well as tying her to a tree or one of us holding her, and kinda taunting with a toy for a little bit and then letting her chase and get it. (I’m not sure of any technical terms so I apologize) Anyway, just wondering if there’s anything else like that, that would be fun for her that we can work on? She has had soooo much fun doing that!
Sorry if this is a dumb question lol
I've got an Elite K9 jute perfecter sleeve (B29L model), with a brand new jute cover on it. Years back I purchased when supporting a local club, which ended up shutting down so it was never used - and I put this onto a storage shelf and forgot about it until a recent move. I haven't been involved in the sport for some time, so thought I'd reach out to see if any clubs could use it. Brand new condition, happy to ship (US domestic only pls).
Situation: I'm starting out at the very beginning learning training and want to start with basic obedience, but, look forward to progressing further afterwards towards sports such as Schutzhund.
Question: Will any basic obedience learning program like AKC obedience class work or are there aspects to that type of training that will hinder training for Schutzhund in the future?
Hello,
I'm new to dog sports and am looking at entering the world of IGP with my 15 m/o gsd. I've already spoken to a club and have watched a couple of their sessions.
I'm trying to build more engagement with my girl. At home/when it's just us, I can get her full attention and she will work for food.. however at a new field etc it's far more interesting to sniff around, and food doesn't mean much. For this reason, toys are better, but only when I have possession of the toy. Once she gets the toy as her reward she will run away and enjoy it on her own. Because of this I recently bought identical duplicates of her favourite tug and tried to get her interested in the one that I have, however, it doesn't seem to be working and she's happy to keep her prize lol.
Any advice on how to get more engagement? This dog also has a history of resource-guarding food (which we have worked through), but I'm wondering if there's a way to break the possessiveness of the toys.
Also if you have any advice for someone newly entering the sport I'd be happy to hear it - thanks!
I am a dog trainer specializing in reactive and aggressive dogs so I have never competed. How do I find a group to train with to give me insight or the resources I need to begin? I also want to know what the easiest way to find IPO competitions near me is? Thank you!
I am a trainer with no competition experience. My specialty is working/rehabilitating extreme aggression cases in pet dogs. I also focus on primitive breeds. I would love to learn more about all competitions but Schutzhund in particular has always been a top interest of mine. I’d love any recommendations for books on training theory and explanations. It would also be very interesting to read a book from the trainers perspective and their experience in training competition, as a less informative book.
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I live and train in the midwest in the states but am headed to Munich next week for work. I would love to visit a training night at a club while I'm there. Anyone know of any clubs close to Munich?
my working line gsd comes tomorrow. i want to train her for schutzhund / dog sports. what mistakes did you make that i should avoid or advice do you have early on ?
maybe i’m naive and maybe i’ll change my mind … being open minded here
i’m picking up a working line gsd from some pretty awesome bloodlines mid june. this will be my first gsd and i’m very excited about schutzhund / igp, etc. I recognize i have a lot to learn since this is all new but do I need to use german commands to earn titles?
i don’t especially care for the german language (no offense, it’s preference)…
I have a lot of interest in doing Schutzhund and bite sports in the future. Do y'all think a German shorthaired pointer or a Weimaraner would do well in the sport? Would any sporting breed be good for Schutzhund?
Looking for suggestions on building drive on the track (I.G.P. tracking) right now I have food 3rd step then 5 steps from that 7 from that and so on to 15 steps with out food. Drive isn't horrible but looking to make it more powerful. Any tips would be helpful.
Looking for trainers, clubs, breeders in the San Diego area. I’m north county near Fallbrook. The one that’s listed on Google either doesn’t exist anymore or they haven’t updated their info in a while. Any help is appreciated.