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Saltier Than Crait is a place for Star Wars fans to engage in conversations about the current state of the franchise.

Saltier Than Crait is a community of Star Wars fans who engage in critical conversations about the franchise under current Lucasfilm leadership.

It is our goal to maintain a civil, welcoming space for fans who have a vast supply of salt with some peppered positivity occasionally sprinkled in.

May the salt be with you!

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What are the must-see videos, posts, etc, if I want to dive into The Last Jedi criticism?

Are there any YouTube videos that you would consider ‘canonical’, for instance? Any Reddit posts on here or elsewhere? There’s so much when I do a search and it’s a little overwhelming.

40 Comments
2024/11/29
03:17 UTC

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Just done watching Empire Strikes Back, how did it in less time felt more impactful than the Last Jedi?

2h 30 mins of TLJ and I felt like nothing really major happens, just some random chaos to subvert expectations.

2hours of The Empire Strikes Back? It felt like it was exactly enough to give us what we want to see, and felt ordered and not random and confusing.

This, is why ESB is peak just like ANH.

254 Comments
2024/11/28
14:16 UTC

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Having just watched A New Hope, I can now (fully) understand why the milk scene is so hated.

Having watched the first movie of the Original Trilogy, and I had watched the last 2 movies of the cashgrab fic that is the Sequel trilogy, I now get why so many people are upset of Luke devolving into a depressed pathetic forgettable joke of a genuinely beloved character in The Last Jedi.

Can you imagine that Luke who along with Han, and Leia who I think took the least harshest deconstruction would be turned into a depressing reminder of how our society is a tad bit too depressed in life in about 4 decades after the original masterpieces came out?

Not only that, but the milk scene COULD have been done in a way that it doesn't feel like Luke was reduced into a depressed fellow and maybe actually COULD have a better fan reception, but Rian Johnson blew it for some stupid reason.

I still can't believe that Rian Johnson could have helped out in Breaking Bad, peak fiction and then end up mutilating the Sequel Trilogy's mid section and sealed its fate as a cashgrab shame fic! All just to subvert expectations but without the correct execution.

Later when I am free, I will watch the rest of the Original Trilogy, and if possible the first movie of the cashgrab shame fic.

306 Comments
2024/11/26
13:52 UTC

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Fun fact of the day: In Disney Canon the Republic is an Orwellian regime which memory holed the Sith.

46 Comments
2024/11/24
11:46 UTC

624

So many of these were either bad/cancelled in one season or straight up didn't happen. They just never learn their lesson and keep announcing more and more stuff.

101 Comments
2024/11/24
05:41 UTC

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They Did It To Themselves

306 Comments
2024/11/24
04:12 UTC

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Leia - A bland character in the Sequel Trilogy

Leia in the OT had a chip on her shoulder and was a fighter. She charged ahead and didn't care who got in her way.

In the ST they stripped her of her personality, she was a revered figure that even in the first scene with Poe and Lor San Tekka this cringey line was uttered about her "To me, she's royalty."

Not Carrie Fisher's fault, the writing for her was terrible in the first two ST films before she passed away. They really missed an opportunity to keep her interesting and an integral part of the film, not some boring deity as she was in the ST.

67 Comments
2024/11/19
21:34 UTC

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I really don't know what to say anymore.

449 Comments
2024/11/15
22:25 UTC

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Legends Collection Complete

After the last epic collection just released, I'm so happy to finally call my shelf done. I've read half the books growing up so look forward to a full read-through as well as reading the comics for the very first time.

61 Comments
2024/11/15
18:44 UTC

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You're alive when Star Wars hits Public Domain. What would you do?

Let's assume you'll be alive and well come the time when Star Wars enters the public domain, and you've the means and drive to do your own takes. Watcha gonna do? What direction would you take things? How would you redefine the characters and setting?

70 Comments
2024/11/15
03:35 UTC

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At least they finally realized the sequel era is a creative black hole

175 Comments
2024/11/13
01:52 UTC

4,421

This isn't funny anymore

729 Comments
2024/11/12
23:47 UTC

635

My face when TIE Avenger in Andor season 2

54 Comments
2024/11/12
18:50 UTC

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Andor Season 2 release date confirmed

134 Comments
2024/11/09
20:23 UTC

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The Final Trailer For The Goonies In Space errrr Skeleton Crew

I knew it was going to be heavily Goonies inspired but it seems like it’s going to copy every single narrative tone from the pirates (Fratellis), to booby traps (hunting for the treasure), to the parents looking to reunite with the kids.

We’ll see how it goes. It can’t possibly be worse than The Acolyte right? RIGHT?!

280 Comments
2024/11/01
14:49 UTC

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Today marks the 12 year anniversary of Lucas selling Star Wars to Disney

Press F to pay respects

606 Comments
2024/10/30
14:51 UTC

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TLJ is secretly about addiction - a Craitian analysis

So, as many of you are, I have been very critical of TLJ, including for its handling of Luke Skywalker. However, I believe I now understand what Johnson, R. (2017), was very subtly trying to communicate. See, TLJ does not make sense if Luke is merely going away to sit the fight out, but what if the green milk of the creatures is in fact addictive? Luke travels to Ahch-To to seek guidance from the Jedi texts, the temptress nuns, a common trope in these types of heroic stories trick him into drinking the addictive milk and suddenly, he's caught. Note how he does not offer Rey any of the milk and how he looks just as angry as he looks relieved when he drinks it. This is also why he does not leave with her - the crippling addiction to the green milk is just too powerful even for a Jedi Master to overcome.

The temptress nuns and the addictive milk also explains why Yoda burns down the Sacred Texts. The Jedi Order is revealed to be so corrupt that they protect their texts with an insidious trap in the form of irresistible temptation. Whilst not many would consider the nuns siren-like, I would argue that they represent what Johnson would consider the female ideal. Hence, Yoda understands that a group that would risk inflicting such horrible evils upon those who would seek wisdom, would ultimately be a force for evil rather than good, paranoid and elitist as opposed to humble and wise like Jedi were supposed to be. Note that Yoda only appears when Luke, having come to the same conclusion, fails in his mission to destroy the texts.

Therefore, what we can learn from TLJ is that addiction can happen to anyone and that whilst the love we provide may sometimes be of the tough variety, we should still provide it. True success is to live with your limitations and learn how to metaphorically force project, not challenging and overcoming problems that may be too large to overcome. And you thought you were watching a Star Wars movie!

34 Comments
2024/10/26
09:45 UTC

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No way they actually finished a movie.

417 Comments
2024/10/25
19:06 UTC

1,529

Just a reminder that after building the Siren for 1 million and flying her to Skellig, they CGI'd the bottle and the nasty green milk. Was this scene a priority to Rian?

221 Comments
2024/10/25
18:20 UTC

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Steven Knight, Writer of NEW JEDI ORDER, Exits the Project

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/10/24/steven-knight-exits-as-writer-of-star-wars-new-jedi-order

Steven Knight is officially out as the writer of Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy’s Star Wars/Rey movie, which is supposed to star Daisey Ridley, and has been plagued with numerous exits and delays. It’s turning into the ‘Blade’ of the Star Wars verse.

First things first, if you’ve been a reader long enough to remember, here’s the scoop I wrote on June 26 concerning Knight’s contentious disagreements with Lucasfilm over the film:

If only I could tell you what I’ve been hearing when it comes to the behind-the-scenes drama with [“Star Wars: The New Jedi Order”]. I swore not to say anything, and it’s killing me to not write about it, but I’m fairly certain some of it will eventually come out.

What I will say is that Steven Knight has been trying to crack the script now for well over a year. A final draft still hasn’t been submitted to LucasFilm. Knight, who is about to shoot his “Peaky Blinders” movie, has written a total of four drafts, with LucasFilm’s Kathleen Kennedy continuously giving him notes on how to improve the story.

Fast forward to this evening, and Puck’s Matt Belloni is reporting that Knight is out as screenwriter of ‘New Jedi Order.’ Lucasfilm is now looking for a new writer, which almost certainly means that the film will not be ready by December 2026, the date Disney had originally settled on for the film.

These issues with Knight, who clashed with Lucasfilm over creative direction of the film, come only two years after development on ‘New Jedi Order’ started, and various drafts had circulated, with different writers, including Damon Lindelof (“Watchmen”) and Justin Brit-Gibson (“Counterpart”) taking a crack at it, before both eventually exiting the project due to creative differences.

There’s also another issue: Disney might be second-guessing the entire nature of the project. Will they or won’t they allow this film to move forward? Do we really need another Rey movie? Plot details have been kept fairly hush-hush, but based on what I’ve heard, the film would focus on Rey’s tutelage at an Academy of up-and-coming Jedis, and part of her attempt to build a new Jedi order.

Disney/LucasFilm hired Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy, a documentary filmmaker, to direct the Rey movie, and there have also been whispers about her potentially being replaced. Regardless, what we have here is yet another Kathleen Kennedy mess over at Lucasfilm.

289 Comments
2024/10/25
03:58 UTC

1,603

George Lucas knew so much more about the EU than Kathleen "no source material" Kennedy

123 Comments
2024/10/24
17:53 UTC

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